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[#] Wed May 22 2024 22:35:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Dammit. I'm gonna have to put my SearxNG instance back up.
You should. I miss it. I had to adjust to use something else lol.
The marginalia search engine was deploying countermeasures to remove AI produced content from their search results. Too bad Marginalia does not work with Searx(NG) as far as I know.

Ok, I'll do it.  It might be a couple of weeks but I'll do it.  Tonight I finished converting www.citadel.org from a virtual machine to an LXC container.  When I got the SSL certificate I made sure that search.citadel.org was one of the subject alternative names attached to it.



[#] Thu May 23 2024 06:29:03 EDT from darknetuser

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Ok, I'll do it.  It might be a couple of weeks but I'll do it. 
Tonight I finished converting www.citadel.org from a virtual machine
to an LXC container.  When I got the SSL certificate I made sure
that search.citadel.org was one of the subject alternative names
attached to it.


You are the best, bro, at least when it comes to things that don't go either neigh of woff or eeeh-ooooh.

[#] Fri May 24 2024 12:42:46 EDT from Nurb432

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Friend has a pixel phone. ( i do to.. had to move away from the unlocked non NSA invaded Chinese phones due to radio issues and it was the lesser of evils of the options i had.   long story, for another time )

Wont do all details, but he was in a physical discussion with someone about some basement issues at a remote site, while on site.  He then started getting 'targeted ads' for basement repair/water/etc.     He had his phone with him...  

 

The listening all the time that copilot is going to start doing, may already be here.  

 



[#] Sun May 26 2024 06:58:15 EDT from darknetuser

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2024-05-24 12:42 from Nurb432
Friend has a pixel phone. ( i do to.. had to move away from the
unlocked non NSA invaded Chinese phones due to radio issues and it
was the lesser of evils of the options i had.   long story, for
another time )

Wont do all details, but he was in a physical discussion with someone
about some basement issues at a remote site, while on site.  He then
started getting 'targeted ads' for basement repair/water/etc.   
 He had his phone with him...  

 

The listening all the time that copilot is going to start doing, may
already be here.  

 


If you have a Pixel phone you should be running GrapheneOS on it instead of stock Android, precisely because of this sort of crap.

[#] Sun May 26 2024 08:02:42 EDT from Nurb432

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Myself i did have plans on looking into that at some point. Just not got around to it yet. 

I'm in the boat of 'i have nothing to worry about if they listen but it still is wrong'.   ( i do nothing wrong to be reported for, and i'm already on several government lists anyway )

Sun May 26 2024 06:58:15 EDT from darknetuser
If you have a Pixel phone you should be running GrapheneOS on it instead of stock Android, precisely because of this sort of crap.

 



[#] Sun May 26 2024 14:38:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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If you have a Pixel phone you should be running GrapheneOS on it
instead of stock Android, precisely because of this sort of crap.

My wife has the Facebook app installed on her phone. I make sure to say embarrassing things around her phone as often as I can.

[#] Tue May 28 2024 09:36:14 EDT from Nurb432

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Not seen it yet. But reading that YT now causes audio drop outs and videos to just skip to the end if you have a blocker.

Eventually they are going to kill the platform.  Sure, gotta pay the bills, make a buck, but when you go overboard at the expense of your customers. You go away.



[#] Tue May 28 2024 19:18:09 EDT from zelgomer

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2024-05-28 13:36 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Not seen it yet. But reading that YT now causes audio drop outs and
videos to just skip to the end if you have a blocker.

Eventually they are going to kill the platform.  Sure, gotta pay the
bills, make a buck, but when you go overboard at the expense of your
customers. You go away.


agree, and that's why i recently started using scripts to slowly and methodically download videos and playlists I think I may want to rewatch after it's gone. Plus it has the added benefit that I can watch them now sans ads. Only problem is that it is consuming more disk space than I ever imagined using in my entire life.

[#] Wed May 29 2024 07:25:19 EDT from Nurb432

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Long ago i started to keep copies of stuff i liked so already in that 'hue disk use' boat.  I have seen too many things get taken down, or services vanish ( not that UT will vanish, but it might become pay only someday, so in effect vanishing for me as i will refuse ), or even if its still there, "now, where was that video from 2 years ago" and if you search you get garbage results to sort thru and if you are not careful and get into incognito mode to search, it adds the results to your suggested list.

Bad thing for me is other than a couple of subscriptions, i dont wnt most of what they put out, just bits and pieces.  I guess if its scripted, who cares, no more physical effort, but its a waste of bandwidth/space/etc waiting for me to review and delete the garbage.

But that said, so far ublock is still going strong.. 

Tue May 28 2024 19:18:09 EDT from zelgomer
agree, and that's why i recently started using scripts to slowly and methodically download videos and playlists I think I may want to rewatch after it's gone. Plus it has the added benefit that I can watch them now sans ads. Only problem is that it is consuming more disk space than I ever imagined using in my entire life.

 



[#] Wed May 29 2024 09:25:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Eventually they are going to kill the platform.  Sure, gotta pay the
bills, make a buck, but when you go overboard at the expense of your
customers. You go away.

YouTube TV, their cable television replacement, seems to be very popular among people who cancel multichannel service from their cable company and then go buy the exact same service online. It's difficult to even call them cord cutters.

With that revenue stream, it's possible to envision Alphabet making a decision to wind down the old service. I don't see it happening soon, though. There's still money coming in and I suspect they're overstating their losses.

I'd be ok with YouTube going away, but only if it was replaced with lots of different services. If the whole world moved en masse to someone else's walled garden it would be just as bad.

[#] Wed May 29 2024 09:39:14 EDT from Nurb432

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Yes, the entire 'cord cutting' nonsense, was just that, nonsense. All people did was switch from one protocol to another, some even kept the same physical cord. Really cutting the cord = no more 'TV'.. 

I also agree about substitutes.  While its got way out of hand, the original concept of what YT was, is still useful in this world.  And i still dont mind if they make a buck, just dont flood me or be stupid about it.



[#] Wed May 29 2024 17:34:57 EDT from zelgomer

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2024-05-29 13:39 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Yes, the entire 'cord cutting' nonsense, was just that, nonsense. All

To me, "cord cutting" was always about ending to subsidization of pro sports. It didn't mean "I'm throwing my TV in the garbage."

[#] Wed May 29 2024 17:36:40 EDT from zelgomer

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To me, "cord cutting" was always about ending to subsidization of pro


A smart person might have said "ending the subsidy of," but that's not how I roll.

[#] Wed May 29 2024 18:32:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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To me, "cord cutting" was always about ending to subsidization of pro

sports. It didn't mean "I'm throwing my TV in the garbage."

Exactly. I don't watch sportsball and I don't appreciate being made to pay for it. I don't want to pay any money to Disney. I don't want to pay any money to fake news channels. And I certainly don't want to pay for ESPN, which is all three.

The first time we "shortened" the cord by finding a channel package that included none of the above. We also returned the set top boxes, using each network's streaming service instead, which is no additional charge once you prove you have them on cable.

I think I've mentioned before that it was only after we were off contract that Verizon offered us an Internet-only package that cost less than a bundle package. I think USD$80 is a fair price for VERY solid 1 Gbps fiber Internet.

Unfortunately we still have Netflix and Amazon Prime but my wife is a tv addict and, y'know, happy spouse happy house.

[#] Sat Jun 01 2024 14:09:20 EDT from Nurb432

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Manifest V3 rolls out next week.

I wonder how much damage it will cause, and how many users they lose before they back off the war on ad-block. Enough to matter?  Rumors EFF will sue.. ( be pointless, other than raising awareness )

I also wonder if it will be baked into chromium, ChromeOS ( i assume yes to both ) and if that translates down stream to things like Edge, Brave and others based on chromium source, or if its possible to roll back to v2 in source ( i doubt it )

Other than FF, what else is not based on chromium that is a viable option for us Linux people these days?  ( viable as in actually will work on 'todays web'. i know plenty of ones that just wont be functional are out there ).



[#] Sun Jun 02 2024 22:43:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I think the ad blocker on Brave will continue to work, because it is coded directly into the browser instead of being bolted in as an extension. I'm counting on that to be true, otherwise we're going to have to do some big time hacking.

What's not Chromium? The current favorite seems to be Pale Moon.

[#] Mon Jun 03 2024 07:28:18 EDT from Nurb432

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Right, sort of my point.. most people have used that code base.

There are a couple, but i doubt they are 'up to standard' ( mostly set by google in effect it seems.. grumble ). 

Sun Jun 02 2024 22:43:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

What's not Chromium? The current favorite seems to be Pale Moon.

 



[#] Mon Jun 03 2024 20:05:40 EDT from msgrhys

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Pretty much the only engines other than Chromium/Blink that work with most websites are Gecko, Firefox's engine, Goanna, Pale Moon's engine, which forked from Gecko, and Webkit, Apple's engine, which forked from KHTML, KDE's engine (KHTML is no longer maintained).

Mon Jun 03 2024 07:28:18 EDT from Nurb432

Right, sort of my point.. most people have used that code base.

There are a couple, but i doubt they are 'up to standard' ( mostly set by google in effect it seems.. grumble ). 

Sun Jun 02 2024 22:43:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

What's not Chromium? The current favorite seems to be Pale Moon.

 



 



[#] Fri Jun 07 2024 07:30:52 EDT from Nurb432

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Google is now pushing 'ai features in gmail, docs and more' 'try free for 2 weeks'.   

 

Out of habit I do use drive every so often for temp storage.  I dont rely on it, just convenient sometimes.  So got a popup today.

Need to get into the habit of using my next cloud box instead. 

 



[#] Mon Jun 10 2024 10:07:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Pretty much the only engines other than Chromium/Blink that work
with most websites are Gecko, Firefox's engine, Goanna, Pale
Moon's engine, which forked from Gecko, and Webkit, Apple's
engine, which forked from KHTML, KDE's engine (KHTML is no
longer maintained).

Part of the problem is that the W3C standards are now so complex and extensive that maintaining a browser engine is hard! It's so complex that even Microsoft gave up on it and started using Google's browser with their name slapped onto it.

It's kind of ironic, Gecko was intended to be portable and composable, but Apple chose to build on KHTML instead, and then Google chose to build on Apple's fork of it, and went so far that Konqueror now uses it (via kdewebkit).

Starting a new browser engine in the current year would be such a monumental undertaking that no one is realistically going to do it, especially when the existing ones are open source and can be used to build reasonably trustworthy browsers. If they weren't open source then we would be having a different kind of conversation.

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