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[#] Fri Apr 22 2011 14:15:10 EDT from athos-mn

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Totally skipped coming here on my birthday. My bad.

[#] Fri Apr 22 2011 16:45:35 EDT from Spell Binder

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Well, a happy effin' belated birthday to ya, then! :P

[#] Fri Apr 22 2011 19:41:06 EDT from DavidStevenRoberts

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I am looking to start a BBS that can be accessed both via web and through analog modems with dial up. I've looked and cannot find directions or suggestions on how to do this. Can anyone help me?



[#] Fri Apr 22 2011 22:28:07 EDT from Animal

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People still use dialup modems to get to the internet?

I mean, I have one on my work laptop, and we include one in everything
we build at work.... but it goes to our data center, it makes one call a
day, and it transfers about 4kb worth of data per phone call...

[#] Sat Apr 23 2011 00:20:47 EDT from the8088er

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...why does that 4 kb not go another way?

Besides I think he ment dialup BBS, not dial up internet.

[#] Sat Apr 23 2011 04:09:24 EDT from dothebart

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Fr Apr 22 2011 19:41:06 EDT von DavidStevenRoberts Betreff: BBS

I am looking to start a BBS that can be accessed both via web and through analog modems with dial up. I've looked and cannot find directions or suggestions on how to do this. Can anyone help me?

the hamradio guys (ax25) do exactly that with citadel.

I think you need to do similar as if you would set up a serial connection terminal, and have that running the citadel commandline client.



[#] Sat Apr 23 2011 14:19:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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A happy and blessed Easter to those of you celebrating it this weekend.

Sure wish I had a church I could call my own right now. :(

[#] Sat Apr 23 2011 22:24:50 EDT from LoanShark

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Hi,

Fvck Donald Trump. In the back of a Volkswagen.

Just a reminder that Gary Johnson is still out there.

That is all.

[#] Sat Apr 23 2011 23:38:40 EDT from ax25

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That is kida what we do with Citadel.  The modems we use are over the air (radio) modems, but we do use both the web interface (Webcit) via a fairly fast connection (D-Star) at 128 kbit/s and via packet radio using the Citadel text mode client.  I have not tried to set it up as a  getty to a dialup, but I would imagine it would work fine as it works just fine from packet using a dispatcher - the node program.

I think you could just set up a regular dialup server with a guest login of some sort that gave promps and ended up giving the Citadel text mode client as the shell for that user.  I would want to check for security if that was a good idea though, but there are less and less war dialers these days - ha ha.

ax25



[#] Sun Apr 24 2011 14:48:21 EDT from Animal

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Apr 23 2011 12:20am from the8088er
...why does that 4 kb not go another way?

Besides I think he ment dialup BBS, not dial up internet.

Because not everyone that uses our equipment has "anohter way". Most
people have a phone line. Those that don't go to the office and do a
direct upload once a week or so.
Working on getting ethernet set up for those of us without phone lines.
Some logic to work out with that though... location-based services,
mostly.

[#] Sun Apr 24 2011 17:11:20 EDT from DavidStevenRoberts

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Yes I meant dial up BBS, not necessarily internet. This is for those who have only dial up available. I'm looking for the 'how to's' of the process. It should be a BBS accessible coast to coast, no pics, no links, just text messaging. So far I've found little information and FIdonet is a waste of a site as there's no one there anymore. Help?



[#] Sun Apr 24 2011 19:16:20 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yes, you're still in the right place. The trick is to make your Linux system accessible via dialup. Once you've done that, adding a Citadel BBS takes no additional effort to make it run over the dialup or the Internet.

[#] Mon Apr 25 2011 10:31:06 EDT from DavidStevenRoberts

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Great, thanks for anwering. Are there any step by step instructions or procedure I need to follow. I am not a programmer in any way, I'm doing good if I can beat Minesweeper on a computer. I want anyone to be able to access the BBS either through internet or hard phone line modem. I don't want to use this commercially or for a business so I don't really have a lot of money to invest in equipment. (I'm not sure about the HAM radio link, I thought I needed a license and a 30 foot antennae for that.) Do I need to download a Telnet program or package and how would I be able to explain to others how to reach this BBS with their hard phone line modem? Sorry to be a pain, I just want to make sure everything works okay.



[#] Mon Apr 25 2011 12:09:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well, the Lobby isn't really the right place for a discussion on getting your feet wet with Linux; you might want to ask any further questions in the Linux room -- but with regard to step by step dial-in configuration you might want to start at http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_dialin_server -- and you can skip all of the PPP stuff since you're just looking to set up a BBS and not some sort of dialup ISP.

[#] Mon Apr 25 2011 17:52:27 EDT from DavidStevenRoberts

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Okay, I know this will be a weird question, but what's a linux? : )



[#] Mon Apr 25 2011 18:26:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ok, you're either pulling my leg or you're in the wrong place.

[#] Mon Apr 25 2011 18:56:23 EDT from skpacman

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I'm hoping he's pulling our leg.
I'm staying away from that one... don't want to get rude to a new-comer lol



[#] Mon Apr 25 2011 23:29:19 EDT from DavidStevenRoberts

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Sadly no, I am not pulling your leg. I really don't know what a Linux or linux box is. I'm not a programmer or anything close. I just want to be able to have a board set up so that people I know coast to coast can connect without the Internet. I know I am probably in the wrong place but I don't know how to phrase the question and if I did I don't know where to ask it. A BBS that people can post on via analog modem and keep in touch in areas where Internet service is non existent. Please if you can help.



[#] Tue Apr 26 2011 01:27:17 EDT from triLcat

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DSR: It's not so much that you're in the wrong place as that you're trying to do something that you don't have the basic knowledge to do. Imagine if someone asked how to build an apartment building, and we said "well, here are the blueprints, once you've laid your foundation, you can work with these." and they say "what's a foundation?" Linux is an operating system, like Windows. Installing it is somewhat complex, and if you've never worked with it before, setting up Citadel is probably over your head.

Citadel can do what you want, but setting it up is a somewhat advanced task.



[#] Tue Apr 26 2011 03:51:20 EDT from dothebart

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you need another computer or at least a VM.

install ubuntu on it: http://www.ubuntu.com/

and get some experience with it.

for concerns about ubuntu, there are newspapers available that carry DVDs with UBUNTU in it (at least over here in germany) where you can find the basics you need to know to set up such a system.

educate yourself, ask educated questions, you will get nice answers.

skip the first step, and you will at best be laughed at.

for questions about problems with ubuntu, theres

http://ubuntuforums.org

 

your best friends are 'man' and 'apropos'

after having a base system running start with a terminal and

man man

once you have your system up and running (and understood whats going on there) be welcomed to ask more questions about citadel, I don't think it makes sense beforehand.



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