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[#] Wed Jan 22 2014 08:18:01 EST from fleeb

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Heh, true, but we're not talking about mathematics here, are we?

[#] Wed Jan 22 2014 13:15:40 EST from fleeb

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According to one recruiter, I won't be able to find work in Java because I have little to no experience with it, even though I can program like a boss in C++, an arguably harder language, and I have a sound OO background.

Then I found this:

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all

[#] Thu Jan 23 2014 04:30:05 EST from vince-q

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Heh, true, but we're not talking about mathematics here, are we?


The problem with that silly Physics degree of mine is that "it is always about mathematics"....

[#] Thu Jan 23 2014 05:15:18 EST from the_mgt

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The problem with most computers is that they do not know math. They can only be told to push around zeros and ones. And the method they use to represent any number always has a method for telling wether it is "negative" or "positive". Which is kind of a semantical attribute, since they do not give a shit about it what those 0s and 1s do in the first place. Only people with silly physics degrees or economists do. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signed_zero



[#] Thu Jan 23 2014 17:01:11 EST from LoanShark

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According to one recruiter, I won't be able to find work in Java
because I have little to no experience with it, even though I can
program like a boss in C++, an arguably harder language, and I have a

sound OO background.

This doesn't entirely make sense. We hire people who have less experience in a particular language all the time.

Of course, I don't have visibility into what their salary is. Maybe you're pricing yourself out of the "junior to midlevel guy" environment that you might be slotted to jump into.

You need to figure out how to tell the recruiters why they're wrong (or don't interview with a company where the whole process is guarded by layers of HR and recruiters.) Anything that smacks of a "poor me" attitude is not going to help here. Maybe if you build a set of example projects in your free time...


Don't forget to be conversant in CS fundamentals.


Another path is to go work w/ a company that has multiple languages in the shop.

[#] Thu Jan 23 2014 17:25:27 EST from fleeb

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Yeah, I'd like to go the multiple-language route, if I can find such a place, as that would offer the best option to move around.

And, no, this doesn't really make sense, short of having to struggle through combinations of recruiters and HR people. I suspect I'm also trying to find work at the wrong time of the year.

[#] Thu Jan 23 2014 17:58:03 EST from LoanShark

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trying to find work at the wrong time of the year.

For sure.

[#] Sun Jan 26 2014 19:07:24 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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There's a work finding season?

[#] Mon Jan 27 2014 10:42:18 EST from fleeb

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It revolves around when people do budgets, I suspect.

[#] Mon Jan 27 2014 15:16:03 EST from LoanShark

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things slow down after x-mas. They should start to pick up soonish...

[#] Mon Jan 27 2014 17:20:48 EST from fleeb

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I think that's happening now.

[#] Tue Jan 28 2014 11:27:54 EST from dothebart

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http://fovea.cc/blog/index.php/is-j2objc-good-native-mobile-project/

lol. as soon as your original code doesn't look like java anymore, its accepteable fast.



[#] Tue Jan 28 2014 13:36:17 EST from LoanShark

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Eep. Nasty stuff, that.

[#] Tue Jan 28 2014 16:47:35 EST from fleeb

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Heh, generated code looks weird to me most of the time anyway.

[#] Wed Jan 29 2014 08:08:33 EST from zooer

Subject: negative zero does exist.

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I have seen this happen before, I have seen the same thing happen with our wireless outdoor thermometer.

I get the data from Weather Underground, the data is an XML file sent from a consumer weather station a mile or so away from the home. I use the data from the XML file add it to a webcam picture using image magick.  

---Negative Zero Image---

Text Client: http://palmbeachpravda.com/images/neg0-sm.jpg

Negative zero does exist and rumor has it you can divide by it.



[#] Wed Jan 29 2014 08:34:25 EST from zooer

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I know someone will say it is due to rounding but the negative zero is after rounding.

[#] Wed Jan 29 2014 10:53:35 EST from fleeb

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For whatever it's worth, negative zero is meant to equal 0 in standard arithmetic, but represents the concept of approaching zero from the negative side as a one-sided limit. At least, within computers. There's also a positive zero.

Much more information about this is on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signed_zero

[#] Wed Jan 29 2014 14:07:42 EST from zooer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOiZP8FS5Ww


If you don't have a negative zero you can't reverse polarity and save the star ship.

[#] Wed Jan 29 2014 15:34:08 EST from LoanShark

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Yeah, -0 = underflow from the negative side.

[#] Wed Jan 29 2014 15:34:36 EST from LoanShark

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I suppose if you divide by -0, you get IEEE -Inf

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