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[#] Tue Oct 15 2024 19:53:26 UTC from Nurb432

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Neat. a thunder-sleet storm. Appeared out of nowhere. 



[#] Wed Oct 23 2024 15:55:58 UTC from LoanShark

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2024-08-03 13:00 from Nurb432
I feel bad for the astronauts stuck , but it is funny, yet
another Boeing disaster :

I mean it's not a small thing. 8 months in space, or whatever the number is, will permanently reduce bone density and increase cancer risk.

[#] Wed Oct 23 2024 16:29:34 UTC from Nurb432

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I heard that the bones will recover in time.

Wed Oct 23 2024 11:55:58 EDT from LoanShark
2024-08-03 13:00 from Nurb432
I feel bad for the astronauts stuck , but it is funny, yet
another Boeing disaster :

I mean it's not a small thing. 8 months in space, or whatever the number is, will permanently reduce bone density and increase cancer risk.

 



[#] Wed Oct 23 2024 20:37:54 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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That's sort of what bones do. They're very good at knitting themselves back together. Ask anyone who has ever had a broken bone.

The risk is real, though. Lots of bad things can happen during the time while the bone density is lowered. And as LS pointed out, there are other risks as well. Those astronauts got more than they bargained for. I suppose there is a "they knew the risks" argument to be made, but with this incident occurring in the middle of a long streak of Boeing QA/incompetence issues, there's also an opposing argument to be made.

I mean really ... we knew how to return a manned capsule safely to the earth 50 years ago!

On the other hand, the narrative that the astronauts had to make their return trip in a "spacex uber" is hysterical.

[#] Wed Oct 23 2024 20:42:47 UTC from Nurb432

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Oh, sure, until they recover one has to be careful and such. Even short missions they saw this. I just i had never heard it was permanent. ( unless there was an underlying condition they missed in that particular astronaut )



[#] Wed Oct 23 2024 20:43:43 UTC from Nurb432

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Just dont ask me, my arm and such :) 

Wed Oct 23 2024 16:37:54 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
 Ask anyone who has ever had a broken bone.

 



[#] Wed Oct 23 2024 23:32:24 UTC from Nurb432

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lol

( earlier today.. )

"Boeing-made satellite explodes in space after experiencing an "anomaly"    And some 20 pieces of large debris is now in orbit.. who knows what they will take out in the process...

 

Now, i do understand 'space is hard' and satellite failures do happen, and even de-orbit in severe cases,  but an explosion?



[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 14:10:46 UTC from LoanShark

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for. I suppose there is a "they knew the risks" argument to be made,


I would imagine that a delayed return was one of the contingency-plans from the start.

[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 14:11:46 UTC from LoanShark

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My understanding is that osteopenia is not reversible.

[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 14:21:17 UTC from Nurb432

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Quick google search, of course take that for what its worth, says its possible to reverse it with proper treatments, including some medications/supplements..   

I'm sure its not 'overnight'. 

Thu Oct 24 2024 10:11:46 EDT from LoanShark

My understanding is that osteopenia is not reversible.

 



[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 14:23:04 UTC from Nurb432

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hit send too fast.

Im sure that if its caused due to a 'medical condition' it may not be as easy reverted, if at all.  But with spaceflight, its environmental, so it makes sense ( to me anyway ) it can be reversed.



[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 14:35:13 UTC from LoanShark

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I guess so. I'm not a doctor. I've had a few broken bones, and there's always a worry about loss of density just from not weight-bearing for a few months. X-rays aren't good at measuring density.

[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 14:42:34 UTC from Nurb432

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There is some ultra sound like thing that does that.  Wife goes in for that soon actually.   She just got back from a Mars mission..

 

Thu Oct 24 2024 10:35:13 EDT from LoanShark
I guess so. I'm not a doctor. I've had a few broken bones, and there's always a worry about loss of density just from not weight-bearing for a few months. X-rays aren't good at measuring density.

 



[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 14:43:23 UTC from Nurb432

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Wait damnit delete that. I wasn't supposed to admit that!!!! 

 

( ok just kidding.. tho she is going in for a test :) )



[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 16:00:34 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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My understanding is that osteopenia is not reversible.

Ok, time for me to go learn the difference between osteopenia and osteoporosis.
Gotta learn something new every day or you die stupid, right? ;)

[#] Thu Oct 24 2024 18:55:35 UTC from LoanShark

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I suspect I'm missing a few things by only using the SSH client. Some day, somebody has to design a terminal that can do scrolling graphics at higher resolution than ANSI -- it would have to be object-based.

[#] Fri Oct 25 2024 04:22:52 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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That would be Sixel graphics, and if your terminal supports Sixel [https://www.arewesixelyet.com/] you will someday see inline images in the Citadel client. Interestingly, support for Sixel seems to be spreading fast. It's even coming to a future version of Windows Terminal (and is in the VS Code terminal *today*) so it isn't just a Linux thing either.

The client has been updated to query the terminal for both regular ANSI support and Sixel support. We gave up on ncurses a long time ago, since no one is using a non-ANSI terminal at this point. Someday when I need a break from working on WebCit-NG it'll be a fun little side quest to get inline images working.

[#] Sat Oct 26 2024 01:30:02 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: I am in Delaware.

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I don't know why.

[#] Sat Oct 26 2024 01:38:07 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

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Did you go on a joyride and get lost?

Fri Oct 25 2024 21:30:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: I am in Delaware.
I don't know why.

 



[#] Sat Oct 26 2024 02:07:35 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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My cousin is getting married tomorrow. I guess the problem is that she lives here. But she promised me there would be no exposure to the dreaded Delaware pizza.

She was a flower girl at my wedding. That was 30 years ago. Good times.

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