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[#] Sat Jun 26 2021 11:45:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Get up on your hind legs and make me, bitch.

"Tweet!  Tweet tweet!"



[#] Sat Jun 26 2021 16:13:40 EDT from LoanShark

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Yeah, well, look, I was criticizing the left. On Friday night. So, alcohol aside I'm just not a big fan of being told that I didn't agree with someone in quite the right terms or with the emphasis in exactly the right place. And I'm not a fan of messages that read like a "wall of text" that get kind of personal. It just comes across as a little too intense, and I would say that given all the history you should know better than to talk past people like that. Sometimes it's not what you say, it's the way you say it.

And I can hear it coming: "but people get too sensitive about things!"

Thing is, that's on you if you're being obtuse to the point of obnoxiousness. You said something like this once, so I'll paraphrase it: if someone gets oversensitive with you now and then, as an isolated incident, that's on them. But if you find that consistently, everywhere you go, you think that everyone is being oversensitive with you: that's an indication that maybe you're the problem. Perhaps this should feed into the other tech journalism discussion in the other room.

To paraphrase the paraphrase:

"It's easy to criticize Israel without being called an antisemite. The trick is to not be antisemitic, a feat that most antisemites have not yet mastered. So they constantly feel that their 'criticism' is being conflated."

[#] Sat Jun 26 2021 16:36:49 EDT from LoanShark

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None of the above should be confused with the current left/right polarization around politically correctness issues - that's not what I'm talking about here.

For example, on Thursday I found myself in a conversation with an Asian woman who is a coworker. Based on her last name I think she's Chinese.

I used the word "Korean" as a singular noun.
She said "Korean PEOPLE, please."

What followed was a lengthy disccussion about how I believed my usage to be both (a) grammatically correct, and (b) not offensive in the slightest.

She took it all in stride, but at one point she said, "if you know it makes people feel better, why don't you just say it?"

So I continued to gently push back on that, I continued to patiently argue the point. I think, ultimately, she bought it.

(Think about the etymology: "Korean" is like "Italian", which comes from the Italian word "Italiano", which comes from the Middle Latin "Italianus." The root is "Italy" and the Latin suffix is "-anus", the same as "Romanus." Which literally means "Person from Rome.")

(I didn't say she was being a bit of an -anus, but maybe I thought it.)

I'm acutely aware of the ridiculous sensitivity on the left, and do not approve.

[#] Sat Jun 26 2021 17:19:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Of course.  And that's why you command respect around here.  You may be a statistical outlier on some issues but you're not of the "everyone not as extreme as me is hitler!!!11" variety.

As for walls of text ... only when they're building a detailed explanation of something.  If it's the same old stuff said over and over again, it's boorish in conversation, it's boorish here.



[#] Mon Jun 28 2021 00:21:00 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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We also have a little history, at this point that may make us tend toward being defensive with one another.  

And to be honest - this is your "local." You've been here as a regular for a long time. 


And how do you think I came UP with that observation? Nosce te ipsum. I've been in a lot of rooms - and sometimes it has been that everyone in the room has been an asshole... 

But it has been the other way around a fair number of times, too.  

So... no harm - we may not always agree on a lot of things... but... I think we're getting better at navigating our personality conflicts. 

 



[#] Mon Jun 28 2021 04:19:50 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-06-24 22:51 from IGnatius T Foobar
I suppose if you're going to engage in toxic discourse ... do it on
Twitter!


I do don't support such notion. Twitter feds off toxic discourse. Taking toxic discourse there just makes it stronger than it already is.

[#] Mon Jun 28 2021 06:53:21 EDT from Nurb432

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I try not to be. If i ever do someone toss a donut at me and tell me to shut up for a minute.

Mon Jun 28 2021 12:21:00 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

 and sometimes it has been that everyone in the room has been an asshole... 

 



[#] Mon Jun 28 2021 10:14:31 EDT from LoanShark

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I think we're getting better at navigating our personality
conflicts. 

Possible. There does need to be a "LoanShark is drunk as a skunk tonight" status klaxon on the Webcit thing.

[#] Mon Jun 28 2021 10:16:42 EDT from LoanShark

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The way we can implement this is with a Gates-designed CHHHCHHOH-monitoring microchip. No problem.

[#] Tue Jun 29 2021 09:58:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Breathalyzers for personal computers? It's doable.

[#] Tue Jun 29 2021 13:17:56 EDT from Nurb432

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Blood analyzer, where you have to stick your finger in this hole on the front..  just a little prick..

Tue Jun 29 2021 09:58:28 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Breathalyzers for personal computers? It's doable.

 



[#] Tue Jun 29 2021 13:48:56 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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The problems are probably exaggerated when both Loan Shark and Paranoid Delusions are logging in drunk near or about the same time. :) 

 



[#] Tue Jun 29 2021 18:58:35 EDT from LoanShark

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2021-06-29 13:17 from Nurb432
Blood analyzer, where you have to stick your finger in this hole on
the front..  just a little prick..

that's what she said

[#] Tue Jun 29 2021 19:45:20 EDT from Nurb432

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Ya, after i posted that, i figured " i wonder how long before a she-said joke is coming"    not long ... 



[#] Wed Jun 30 2021 08:09:06 EDT from nonservator

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Joke's on you, I'm never drunk



[#] Wed Jun 30 2021 10:08:14 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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https://www.amazon.com/Intoxication-Universal-Drive-Mind-Altering-Substances/dp/1594770697

 

A number of studies indicate that intoxication is a necessary part of the human experience. 

 

Wed Jun 30 2021 08:09:06 EDT from nonservator

Joke's on you, I'm never drunk



 



[#] Wed Jun 30 2021 12:21:33 EDT from nonservator

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I'm an American, I got all my heavy drinking out of the way in high school



[#] Wed Jun 30 2021 12:57:16 EDT from Nurb432

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We did our drinking in college. Real drugs were highschool 



[#] Wed Jun 30 2021 13:27:12 EDT from LoanShark

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A number of studies indicate that intoxication is a necessary part of
the human experience. 

See, everyone should try something hallucinogenic at least once.

[#] Wed Jun 30 2021 14:48:48 EDT from Nurb432

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But, in a controlled environment.   Speaking from experience ( accidental experience )

Wed Jun 30 2021 01:27:12 PM EDT from LoanShark
A number of studies indicate that intoxication is a necessary part of
the human experience. 

See, everyone should try something hallucinogenic at least once.

 



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