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[#] Tue Apr 06 2021 07:36:52 EDT from Nurb432

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Biden said they were already working with IBM on it..   Not sure why fraudci would even bother lying about it.

 

After covid tracking, i wonder what other 'emergency' they will add to the 'card'. 

Mon Apr 05 2021 21:21:17 EDT from zooer

People no longer care, that is a problem.

 

As far as vaccine passports, Fauci says US will not require COVID-19 ‘vaccine passports’, so that most likely means it is in the works.



 



[#] Thu Apr 08 2021 08:27:50 EDT from zooer

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NY is the first to implement it.

Negative COVID test or full vaccination will be required to attend many NYS events.

https://cnycentral.com/news/the-new-new-york/negative-covid-test-or-full-vaccination-will-be-required-to-attend-many-nys-events

 

 



[#] Thu Apr 08 2021 12:53:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I actually got a look at the new REAL-ID right out of the envelope (my son got one). The protective sleeve explicitly says that there's an RFID tag on the card.

It also says:

"The RFID tag does not include any personal information, only a unique reference number."

So now we only need to know what types of RFID scanners are compatible with the tag in a REAL-ID (and presumably passports). Again, this would not grant the reader access to the Big Brother database; it would only provide a means for an individual to present the same opaque ID number that they had during enrollment.

Too bad, they missed an opportunity here. If the ID had the ability to answer a cryptographic challenge, then the public key of a universal ID combined with biometric verification would be the perfect solution to everything.

I have to assume that the TSA and other agencies will simply scan your ID, receive a screen pop showing your passport photo, and then compare it to the person presenting the ID. That's just about two-factor ... sort of.

[#] Thu Apr 08 2021 14:30:50 EDT from Nurb432

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I guess that is different than the one my state issues?

I got a gold star on mine ( required.. work reasons ) but no warning labels, not looking any different really.  Just a gold star



[#] Thu Apr 08 2021 18:43:35 EDT from zooer

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There are three different types of NY state IDs.  One will allow you to board domestic flights.  One allows you to enter Canada and some other countries without a passport, and the other allows you to enter government buildings.

 



[#] Fri Apr 09 2021 11:05:09 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Yup. Same here. 

Also... the positive vaccine thing to attend events... 

Not only can I see why NYC might adopt that, compared to other parts of the country. 

It is a great tourism opportunity for OTHER States. I can see Vegas capitalizing on this to go, "Come see OUR Broadway shows - no vaccine passport necessary"... and using that to attract productions... "Your passport policy alienates and complicates ticket sales and has caused tourism to decline significantly for NYC as a travel destination. But ours is swelling as people seek out alternatives." 

If the money stops flowing into NYC because of this - they'll reverse it as soon as vaccinations reach a point where the threat of another huge outbreak diminishes. 


Thu Apr 08 2021 14:30:50 EDT from Nurb432

I guess that is different than the one my state issues?

I got a gold star on mine ( required.. work reasons ) but no warning labels, not looking any different really.  Just a gold star



 



[#] Fri Apr 09 2021 16:04:45 EDT from LoanShark

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My license is up for renewal and to do REAL ID I'd need several forms of proof sorted out. Unfortunately my passport is *also* expired, so I might just skip REAL ID because of the extra hassle involved in getting all the proofs in before my birthday, which is quite soon.

[#] Fri Apr 09 2021 16:11:52 EDT from Nurb432

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My understanding that here its not an option. You must get it, by October of this year. 

Fri Apr 09 2021 16:04:45 EDT from LoanShark

My license is up for renewal and to do REAL ID I'd need several forms of proof sorted out. Unfortunately my passport is *also* expired, so I might just skip REAL ID because of the extra hassle involved in getting all the proofs in before my birthday, which is quite soon.

 



[#] Fri Apr 09 2021 18:11:02 EDT from LoanShark

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2021-04-09 16:11 from Nurb432
My understanding that here its not an option. You must get it, by
October of this year. 

I think that depends on which state you live in, but in NY there are three options - standard license, REAL ID, and EDL. Starting Oct, one of the latter two, or a passport, will be required to get on a domestic flight.

[#] Fri Apr 09 2021 18:11:45 EDT from LoanShark

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2021-04-08 12:53 from IGnatius T Foobar
I actually got a look at the new REAL-ID right out of the envelope (my

son got one). The protective sleeve explicitly says that there's an
RFID tag on the card.

You're definitely talking about REAL ID, not EDL, for both your son and your wife, right?

[#] Fri Apr 09 2021 19:40:48 EDT from Nurb432

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Right, i meant in my state. Not national. 

I got mine early due to work, but seems everyone will have it here soon.

Fri Apr 09 2021 18:11:02 EDT from LoanShark
2021-04-09 16:11 from Nurb432
My understanding that here its not an option. You must get it, by
October of this year. 

I think that depends on which state you live in, but in NY there are three options - standard license, REAL ID, and EDL. Starting Oct, one of the latter two, or a passport, will be required to get on a domestic flight.

 



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 15:11:52 EDT from zooer

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They need your name and cell phone number, but the information won't be used to track you after you have had your vaccine.

http://Vsafe.cdc.gov 

 

You can't participate in this program using a desktop browser, you must use your cell phone.



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 17:07:59 EDT from Nurb432

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So millions of free phones are coming. That we get to pay for with our taxes. 

Wed Apr 14 2021 15:11:52 EDT from zooer

They need your name and cell phone number, but the information won't be used to track you after you have had your vaccine.

http://Vsafe.cdc.gov 

 

You can't participate in this program using a desktop browser, you must use your cell phone.



 



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 20:42:38 EDT from zooer

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A) Participation isn't required.

B) The free phones have already been distributed. 

 

The free phones was filed under the free home phone lines deal, which I believe was a Reagan era plan.  



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 20:47:26 EDT from Nurb432

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Wed Apr 14 2021 20:42:38 EDT from zooer

A) Participation isn't required.     Today

B) The free phones have already been distributed.    I thought Obama started that stuff back up.  Reagan would be pre-cellphone. ( might have been free land line )

 

The free phones was filed under the free home phone lines deal, which I believe was a Reagan era plan.  



 



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 21:46:51 EDT from zooer

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Right, it fell under the same Reagan program. The program was modernized for the cell phone era.



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 21:48:48 EDT from zooer

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Wed Apr 14 2021 08:47:26 PM EDT from Nurb432

 

Wed Apr 14 2021 20:42:38 EDT from zooer

A) Participation isn't required.     Today

 

From what I read they only ask you questions about your reactions after you receive your first vaccine, and then again after the second vaccine.   It is a study on reactions to the vaccine, and nothing more.



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 21:54:30 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

 

Wed Apr 14 2021 21:48:48 EDT from zooer

 

Wed Apr 14 2021 08:47:26 PM EDT from Nurb432

 

Wed Apr 14 2021 20:42:38 EDT from zooer

A) Participation isn't required.     Today

 

From what I read they only ask you questions about your reactions after you receive your first vaccine, and then again after the second vaccine.   It is a study on reactions to the vaccine, and nothing more.



 



[#] Thu Apr 15 2021 08:43:16 EDT from zooer

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What I have noticed is every medical facility is asking if you have had the vaccine.  The neurosurgeon and my sleep center doctor asked me.  My mother went to her ophthalmologist, he asked her.  Of course my GP asked.

 

Shouldn't this conversation be in the health room, or perhaps a COVID room should be created.

 

 



[#] Thu Apr 15 2021 08:53:35 EDT from Nurb432

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I'm expecting my GP or dentist here soon to say, "oh, you didnt get it. Well, we cant serve you now, we are sorry."

Oh, you didnt get it, well you cant work here any longer.   

Oh, no shot, well, you will have to get your groceries delivered, you cant come here.  

 

 

When do we get the QR code tattooed on our forehead so cameras can auto scan you as you move around, and auto lock doors on you if its missing or you dont have the latest whatever shot ( or poor social score like china does now )? And no, im not joking, im dead serious. i remember one store chain years ago that either did or was trying to auto scan your credit cards at the door so they could see if you could afford to be customer there, or be turned away at the door.   

 

Thu Apr 15 2021 08:43:16 EDT from zooer

What I have noticed is every medical facility is asking if you have had the vaccine.  The neurosurgeon and my sleep center doctor asked me.  My mother went to her ophthalmologist, he asked her.  Of course my GP asked.

 

Shouldn't this conversation be in the health room, or perhaps a COVID room should be created.

 

 



 



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