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[#] Mon Oct 09 2023 14:45:21 UTC from msgrhys

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Ah, China, the poster boy for human rights.</sarcasm>



[#] Mon Oct 09 2023 16:24:00 UTC from LoanShark

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Support for a two-state solution is a rhetorical fig-leaf at this point. It costs nothing to give it lip service, doesn't commit you to anything because it's never actually going to happen, and might make you look good in the eyes of some.

I suppose, in a sense, it's worth reiterating; the 2-state is the only framework for peace that would be acceptable to the Israeli side (in some alternate universe where the Pals could be trusted that far, which they can't) but it would never be acceptable to the Pal side, so, it costs you nothing to reiterate your position and sorta calls on the Pals to do something that we know they won't do.

But it's ultimately somewhere between "not very meaningful" and "a sick joke."

Anyway, I sent a message to triLcat a day or two ago. They are safe enough for the moment (physically although not mentally) but her nephews will be deployed soon.

[#] Mon Oct 09 2023 16:37:33 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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There is no such nation as Palestine.  How does one support a place that doesn't exist?

Mon Oct 09 2023 10:29:54 EDT from Nurb432

China has just announced they are supporting Palestine 

"In response, China's foreign ministry urged in a weekend statement the "relevant parties" to remain calm and to end hostilities to protect civilians, adding that "the fundamental way out of the conflict lies in implementing the two-state solution and establishing an independent State of Palestine".

 



 



[#] Mon Oct 09 2023 17:28:00 UTC from Nurb432

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Im not expert, but they want to remove all Israelis from the planet, expand their territory and then rename it Palestine. 

( or was that sarcasm and i missed it totally? )

Mon Oct 09 2023 12:37:33 EDTfrom LadySerenaKitty

There is no such nation as Palestine.  How does one support a place that doesn't exist?

 

 



[#] Mon Oct 09 2023 18:00:05 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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The recent Hamas terror attacks have extinguished any remaining doubt
in my mind that Israel should just completely annex the Gaza Strip
and West Bank. Yeah the UN will whine. So what?

I'm sure it's only a matter of days before the UN officially declares a strong condemnation against Israel for the atrocity of not completely dying off when attacked by terrorists. Pretty much the entire purpose of the UN is to condemn Israel from time to time.

The "two state solution" was a magnanimous thing for Israel to agree to, but in practice it did not work, and it can never work. Because there aren't really "two states". There is one state, and one group of terrorists who are hell-bent on wiping Israel off the map and taking "their" land back. When offered some amount of land to call their own, they literally built a government out of the terrorist organization.

If you look at a map of the Gaza strip, you will see there are only two ways out.
One is blocked by Israel, who don't want terrorists posing as Palestinians to cross over. The other is blocked by Egypt, who don't want terrorists posing as Palestinians to cross over.

Yes, we should support Israel because they are a true ally. The danger is that the usual suspects on our side are using Iran as a proxy to get World War 3 started because it benefits the military-industrial complex. Extremely Evil People such as Nikki Haley and Mike Pence are demanding that we begin global nuclear war immediately.

(Ok that last statement is an exaggeration, but I'll bet they both had to change their undies after considering it.)

[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 16:18:51 UTC from Nurb432

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"In a post on Telegram, Hamas said the residents of Ashkelon, just north of the Gaza Strip, had until 5pm local time to leave (3pm BST)."

 

And i dont say this in jest, or lightly. Israel needs to nuke these ******ers. AND Iran, for funding it. Then we need to charge all involved here in the US in funding Iran with treason. ( like that 6 billion )



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 18:49:37 UTC from Nurb432

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And i guess they started bombing the area. This is getting really ugly.. its going to spread to other parts of the middle east before its over. Its causing rifts in other countries.  The collapse has begun. I guess Ukraine wasn't enough, thanks Joe for funding this.  

Hope TrilCat is far far away from the mess.

Tue Oct 10 2023 12:18:51 EDT from Nurb432

"In a post on Telegram, Hamas said the residents of Ashkelon, just north of the Gaza Strip, had until 5pm local time to leave (3pm BST)."

 

And i dont say this in jest, or lightly. Israel needs to nuke these ******ers. AND Iran, for funding it. Then we need to charge all involved here in the US in funding Iran with treason. ( like that 6 billion )



 



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 21:45:56 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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And i dont say this in jest, or lightly. Israel needs to nuke these
******ers. AND Iran, for funding it. Then we need to charge all
involved here in the US in funding Iran with treason. ( like that 6
billion )

Agreed on all counts. Hamas and its enablers need to be unalived.

[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 21:47:42 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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its over. Its causing rifts in other countries.  The collapse has
begun. I guess Ukraine wasn't enough, thanks Joe for funding

I would hate to think that people with certain interests are starting World War III on purpose, either for their financial benefit, or to gain or retain power.

But knowing the depths to which certain people will go ... I would not be surprised.

May God have mercy on His people.

[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 21:49:35 UTC from Nurb432

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I am 100% positive this is the case. This was plan B to collapse the planet and 'take over' the chaos that is left.

What they dont count on, is there may be nothing left...



[#] Wed Oct 11 2023 03:47:10 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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Total Societal Collapse.  Whether by getting Democratted or Global ThermoNUCLEAR FUCKING WAR!

 

Ahem.  Excuse me.  But ya, Total Societal Collapse is the end goal.

Tue Oct 10 2023 17:49:35 EDT from Nurb432

I am 100% positive this is the case. This was plan B to collapse the planet and 'take over' the chaos that is left.

What they dont count on, is there may be nothing left...



 



[#] Wed Oct 11 2023 12:00:43 UTC from Nurb432

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Not that I watch news much, but i have been around this lately.

I have noticed a distinct slow change to all outlets starting to blame Israel or at least covertly condemn them for reacting. Sick really.



[#] Wed Oct 11 2023 13:16:13 UTC from Nurb432

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For those in the US, watch your backs tomorow.

"Campus Anti-Semites Plot ‘Day Of Resistance’ In Support Of Hamas"

Source  : https://www.dailywire.com/news/campus-anti-semites-plot-day-of-resistance-in-support-of-hamas



[#] Wed Oct 11 2023 14:53:03 UTC from Nurb432

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aaand.. according to NBC ( so take it as you wish.. i have not verified yet )  Lebanon and Syria are now shooting at Israel too.  Wtf. Wtf.  

 

And i know i said it before, and not to diminish others there, but i do hope Tril is ok. 



[#] Wed Oct 11 2023 21:36:29 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ahem.  Excuse me.  But ya, Total Societal Collapse is the end goal.

Cloward-Piven Strategy applied at a global scale?

I think we should bomb Harvard University. The hate coming out of that place is unbelievable.

The real problem is that the United States has provided ample funding to both sides, and is therefore hated by both sides. And we've deliberately allowed tens of thousands of terrorists into our country over our porous border.
Some pundits are saying that a massive attack on our soil is inevitable.

And even that may be part of the plan. Again ... may God have mercy upon His people.

[#] Wed Oct 11 2023 21:42:29 UTC from Nurb432

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I cant prove it, I think its is. "We are here to rescue you" and the Feds step in and impose all sorts of restrictions. Of course if we are all dead and in flames, its academic. They may win, but lose.

Wed Oct 11 2023 17:36:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Some pundits are saying that a massive attack on our soil is inevitable.

And even that may be part of the plan. Again ... may God have mercy upon His people.

 



[#] Thu Oct 12 2023 20:14:07 UTC from Nurb432

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Might have been better in lobby.. donno, but it relates here too.

There is a call for "international jihad day" tomorrow. Who knows if its real and things are actually planned, or just them trying to frighten people, you know how terrorists work. However, several police departments across the country are gearing up, just in case.

 

I guess the message is 'stay vigilant ' and 'watch your backs'   Just in case.



[#] Sat Oct 14 2023 01:14:20 UTC from msgrhys

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I hear if you look up the word "morons" in a dictionary you will find this picture: