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[#] Tue Apr 12 2022 16:09:22 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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To get their shared browser search history - you would have to have access to their logged in browser - but if they've cleared that, you'll be powerless to recover it. 

On a local machine - the best bet would be to either use complete deleted file recovery and recover the cache directory files that were deleted back to their proper place - but the easiest solution would be to have a backup from before the local history was deleted and restore that to a completely different machine. 

I mean - my guess is with a subpoena - Google or Microsoft both can provide "deleted" remote web browsing history to authorities  - and that deleting your web browsing history just means YOU, or anyone local on YOUR machine, can't see your web browsing history. Google and Microsoft still can. They don't ACTUALLY delete it. They archive it and make a new history list for you. 


But if you're logging in and sharing passwords, bookmarks, history and other web browser data remotely - other than cache - I don't think a local copy *is* stored. It is all in the cloud... someone else's computer - so once the flag is turned to make your current history inaccessible from your remote machine - you would have to talk to Google or Microsoft respectively - to get that - and unless you've got a Government TLA in your organization name and an army of lawyers - I doubt they would do that even for a very large and powerful corporation. 

 





[#] Sat Apr 16 2022 18:25:38 EDT from Nurb432

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Well, duckduckgo has joined the ranks of suckage and have truly bent over to the IP mob..

They are now blocking pirate site results and even sites for "YT-down-loaders", which their existence is unquestionably legal. 

 

 



[#] Thu Apr 21 2022 13:01:58 EDT from darknetuser

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2022-04-16 18:25 from Nurb432
Well, duckduckgo has joined the ranks of suckage and have truly bent

over to the IP mob..

They are now blocking pirate site results and even sites for
"YT-down-loaders", which their existence is unquestionably legal. 


 

 


Well, it was not a secret Duckduckgo was just slightly better than the regular competitors. Even if it wasn't, it does not own its index so it is vulnerable to an eventual attack from Microsoft.

I wish Gigablast was able to provide better results. Well I suppose there will always be Frogfind.

[#] Thu Apr 21 2022 19:10:34 EDT from Nurb432

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I need to setup a yacy node and see how well it works.



[#] Mon Apr 25 2022 09:18:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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DuckDuckGo joined the ranks of suckage for a couple of reasons, including their newfound willingness to derank or delete search results questioning the proxy distraction we are conducting in Ukraine.

I switched my search provider to Brave (and I'm using the Brave browser).
Brendan Eich was a victim of cancel culture so they started in the right place.

[#] Mon Apr 25 2022 10:12:00 EDT from Nurb432

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The extreme and blatant Ukraine and flu-vid censorship has brought a lot of things to light i think, for the people that were clueless before.    Nothing else its causing alternatives to spring up, and older ones to be more viable.

Of course it means places like google are doubling down.

 

 



[#] Mon Apr 25 2022 11:58:19 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-04-25 13:18 from IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org>
DuckDuckGo joined the ranks of suckage for a couple of reasons,
including their newfound willingness to derank or delete search results

questioning the proxy distraction we are conducting in Ukraine.

I switched my search provider to Brave (and I'm using the Brave
browser).
Brendan Eich was a victim of cancel culture so they started in the
right place.



I have read not-so-great things about Brave, at least the browser.

https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#brave

Thoughts?

[#] Mon Apr 25 2022 23:58:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Wow. Seems like he has a reason to hate *every* browser.
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[#] Tue Apr 26 2022 08:32:47 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-04-26 03:58 from IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org>
Wow. Seems like he has a reason to hate *every* browser.
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I think the point of the page is to critique browsers, so yes, he found faults with all of them. But like the news, you have to read through the opinions and weigh the substantial evidence for yourself.

And if what you get out of it is that all browsers suck, then I think the takeaway should be that the web sucks.

[#] Tue Apr 26 2022 08:38:06 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-04-26 12:32 from zelgomer <zelgomer@uncensored.citadel.org>
2022-04-26 03:58 from IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org>
Wow. Seems like he has a reason to hate *every* browser.
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I think the point of the page is to critique browsers, so yes, he
found faults with all of them. But like the news, you have to read
through the opinions and weigh the substantial evidence for yourself.


And if what you get out of it is that all browsers suck, then I think

the takeaway should be that the web sucks.



Also I was just skimming the page again and noticed he has not one but TWO summaries at the end. So you know this guy means business!

[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:07:28 EDT from darknetuser

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2022-04-21 19:10 from Nurb432
I need to setup a yacy node and see how well it works.


Yacy works very very very badly at this point, which is a shame. Also, all the crawling is linked to an IP you supposedly control, which is not any good. Too bad, because the idea sounds awesome on paper.

[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:08:07 EDT from darknetuser

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2022-04-25 09:18 from IGnatius T Foobar
DuckDuckGo joined the ranks of suckage for a couple of reasons,
including their newfound willingness to derank or delete search results

questioning the proxy distraction we are conducting in Ukraine.

I switched my search provider to Brave (and I'm using the Brave
browser).
Brendan Eich was a victim of cancel culture so they started in the
right place.



I think I have already asked this, but which index provider is Brave using?

[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:14:08 EDT from darknetuser

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And if what you get out of it is that all browsers suck, then I think

the takeaway should be that the web sucks.



I was about to mention to IGnatius that, indeed, all browsers suck. The ones that don't suck due to their evilness suck because they lack necessary features by today's standards.

[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:36:36 EDT from Nurb432

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Web today is not how it was envisioned.   Client side processing broke it.

Mon May 02 2022 12:14:08 PM EDT from darknetuser
And if what you get out of it is that all browsers suck, then I think

the takeaway should be that the web sucks.



I was about to mention to IGnatius that, indeed, all browsers suck. The ones that don't suck due to their evilness suck because they lack necessary features by today's standards.

 



[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:42:22 EDT from darknetuser

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2022-05-02 12:36 from Nurb432
Web today is not how it was envisioned.   Client side processing
broke it.

That is why the Gemini people is trying to make Gemini as unextensible as possible, actually. THey hold exactly that opinion.

[#] Thu May 05 2022 16:59:20 EDT from Nurb432

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So i'm lazy.. is this a precedent in the US?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/judge-rules-every-isp-in-us-must-block-pirate-sites-run-by-mysterious-defendants/

 

 

"It is further ordered that all ISPs (including without limitation those set forth in Exhibit B hereto) and any other ISPs providing services in the United States shall block access to the Website at any domain address known today (including but not limited to those set forth in Exhibit A hereto) or to be used in the future by the Defendants ("Newly Detected Websites") by any technological means available on the ISPs' systems. The domain addresses and any Newly Detected Websites shall be channeled in such a way that users will be unable to connect and/or use the Website, and will be diverted by the ISPs' DNS servers to a landing page operated and controlled by Plaintiffs (the "Landing Page")."



[#] Thu May 05 2022 17:12:14 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-05-05 20:59 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
So i'm lazy.. is this a precedent in the US?

I don't know but it sounds like a pretty blatant first amendment violation to me. Conviction of a crime should not mean you lose your Constitutionally protected rights (although that ship has long sailed with 2A and voting). What you pasted says nothing about the content of new websites, only that the defendants shall be blacklisted and that all ISPs must comply, regardless of whether their new website is Biden regime propaganda or sharing SEGA Genisis ROMs.


[#] Thu May 05 2022 17:24:58 EDT from Nurb432

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In this context i didnt think it matters what they were sharing as i wasn't going down the rabbit hole of 'guilt and punishment'. It was just "is this 'unilateral block' a prescient here in the US". i have not heard of one before in the US so i was wondering.

 

But to answer the question: They were an IPTV site, and yes i do think there are some 1st amendment issues. 



[#] Thu May 19 2022 10:23:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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It doesn't sound enforceable, at any rate. In fact, it sounds like the ruling is either utterly clueless or was intentionally so broad that it will be overturned in an appeal.

It should be assumed that the gestapo is already in your ISP's DNS, and possibly in your router as well.

[#] Thu May 19 2022 10:40:46 EDT from Nurb432

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I vote clueless, and with luck overturned.

Enforceable, may not be that hard to enforce for the average user. Just hit the main backbone companies and major DNS providers " and we want proof you did it or we find you contempt of court and fine you".



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