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[#] Fri Dec 25 2020 19:44:05 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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The FPGA and RetroGaming groups, especially the MiSTer FPGA group - are full of a lot of useful information. It is a good place to score deals on older systems.

But yeah, in general - to me it feels like shopping at Target - it feels a lot like making bullets for the oppressors you know plan on exterminating you.

 

Fri Dec 25 2020 17:04:59 EST from Nurb432

I keep it around mostly for keeping in touch with family, in one convenient place.  I joined up kicking and screaming, but it has proven to be helpful in that regard.

other than that, its a cesspool. 

Thu Dec 24 2020 12:13:33 EST from ParanoidDelusions

I quit Facebook, but I kind of miss my conservative and reasonable friends. 

I've considered just going back and defriending everyone I don't want or need in my life. Many people would be shocked to find out they're on the wrong side of that equation. If I decide to go back, I think it is going to happen, though. I don't have time in my life for those people. 

 




 



[#] Sat Dec 26 2020 09:24:53 EST from Nurb432

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True, i\m in a couple of dog groups. Good people, but isn't the real reason i'm there.

Fri Dec 25 2020 19:44:05 EST from ParanoidDelusions

The FPGA and RetroGaming groups, especially the MiSTer FPGA group - are full of a lot of useful information. It is a good place to score deals on older systems.

But yeah, in general - to me it feels like shopping at Target - it feels a lot like making bullets for the oppressors you know plan on exterminating you.

 

Fri Dec 25 2020 17:04:59 EST from Nurb432

I keep it around mostly for keeping in touch with family, in one convenient place.  I joined up kicking and screaming, but it has proven to be helpful in that regard.

other than that, its a cesspool. 

Thu Dec 24 2020 12:13:33 EST from ParanoidDelusions

I quit Facebook, but I kind of miss my conservative and reasonable friends. 

I've considered just going back and defriending everyone I don't want or need in my life. Many people would be shocked to find out they're on the wrong side of that equation. If I decide to go back, I think it is going to happen, though. I don't have time in my life for those people. 

 




 



 



[#] Sat Dec 26 2020 12:06:27 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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A couple longtime friends of mine just 'discovered' i'm a
Conservative ( with libertarian leanings ) and decided we cant be
friends anymore, as i'm a Nazi or some such nonsense.  Um, we were
friends for 40 years before this and it didnt matter ( still doesn't
to me ).  Or at least i thought we were. 

Yeah, I've had that happen a couple of times. I don't hide my personal ideology, but I also don't try to inject it into every conversation like some people do. Those people can be intolerable no matter where they stand on ideological issues.

We've all been told we need to hate the other half because they are horrible people. The people who spun up this divisiveness -- THEY are the horrible people, not the friends and relatives who fell on the other side of the line.

[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 07:30:32 EST from Nurb432

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Kidney stones suck. 



[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 19:59:49 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Wasn't really the reason I was there - but one of the things I miss the most. Turns out my old friends from High School who I had lost touch with - in almost all cases there was a reason I didn't stay in touch with them. :) 

I'm really a bitter old hermit. I was thinking about that today. I have a pretty big social media presence and a lot of followers, enough that people on the "opposition argument," tend to claim I have an echo chamber of fans and followers who follow me around and dog-pile when I get in a disagreement. 

None of them followed me to my BBS. Very few people have followed me. I'm not THAT popular that my echo chamber all signed up to hear more of my brilliant intellect. 

And I'm actually OK with that. There are a handful of people I'd like to join, because they're interesting people, and most of them aren't from my "echo chamber," actually. 

But - I'm also OK with where it is right now - and have reservations about more people showing up. 

Weirdly, the lost Citadel history is from 85, 86 - and the guy who wrote most of the stuff is complaining about the same basic things back then. The same ideas - "I like Citadel because I don't interact with many people, I get bored, and Citadel gives me an outlet. I don't like it because I log in when I'm bored, and people disappoint me, and I remember why I don't interact with many people." 

I was reading it going... "BINGO!" I thought that guy was a real a-hole in 85, or 86 - too.  Nosce Te Ipsum.  

:) 

Sat Dec 26 2020 09:24:53 EST from Nurb432

True, i\m in a couple of dog groups. Good people, but isn't the real reason i'm there.

Fri Dec 25 2020 19:44:05 EST from ParanoidDelusions

 

 



[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 20:02:54 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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The other thought I had - was that this guy was really sought out because of his writing... and writing is where my following comes from too. 

In both cases, *dealing* with the people who admired us because of our writing is the hard part - which, seems to be a common theme with a lot of "content creators," writers and authors. 

We're great at telling you what we think. We don't really want to have a conversation with you, though. 

I'm not THAT bad - it is an exaggeration  -  but there is absolutely an element of that involved. I found myself thinking, "I'd be a much more loved technology blogger and outspoken partisan hack if my readers couldn't actually engage directly in conversation with me." 

 

 



[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 20:04:07 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Shameless plug I'll probably regret - if you want to read these archives of Sacramento area Citadel BBS conversations, they're in the file room "Yoyodyne" on my Citadel. 

They're interesting from a history of online communications and history of Citadel perspective - and I did work my ass off to find them. 

 

Sun Dec 27 2020 20:02:54 EST from ParanoidDelusions

The other thought I had - was that this guy was really sought out because of his writing... and writing is where my following comes from too. 

In both cases, *dealing* with the people who admired us because of our writing is the hard part - which, seems to be a common theme with a lot of "content creators," writers and authors. 

We're great at telling you what we think. We don't really want to have a conversation with you, though. 

I'm not THAT bad - it is an exaggeration  -  but there is absolutely an element of that involved. I found myself thinking, "I'd be a much more loved technology blogger and outspoken partisan hack if my readers couldn't actually engage directly in conversation with me." 

 

 



 



[#] Tue Dec 29 2020 19:41:00 EST from LoanShark

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Weirdly, the lost Citadel history is from 85, 86 - and the guy who
wrote most of the stuff is complaining about the same basic things
back then. The same ideas - "I like Citadel because I don't interact
with many people, I get bored, and Citadel gives me an outlet. I
don't like it because I log in when I'm bored, and people disappoint
me, and I remember why I don't interact with many people." 

That's typical of a certain type of personality. But it sounds like he probably shouldn't harp on the subject so much

[#] Tue Dec 29 2020 19:44:45 EST from LoanShark

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Wait, Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems? >:-)

Where's my uberthruster?

[#] Tue Dec 29 2020 20:41:53 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Yup. That is the one. 

He was a big fan of that era of Science Fiction - but... I get the general impression most of those types gravitated toward Citadel in the 80s. 

Anyhow - I think harping on those things goes along with the general personality and temperament. 

I really wish he was still around, so I could lose him upon you... and put me into the right relative perspective. 

 

Tue Dec 29 2020 19:44:45 EST from LoanShark

Wait, Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems? >:-)

Where's my uberthruster?

 



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 13:04:30 EST from LoanShark

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I really wish he was still around, so I could lose him upon you...
and put me into the right relative perspective. 

You'll just have to settle for being compared to my crazy uncle ;)

[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 15:19:06 EST from zooer

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Does your crazy uncle believe that 5G is evil?

From what I understand, the shape shifting lizard congressmen are republicans. 



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 15:49:49 EST from LoanShark

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Does your crazy uncle believe that 5G is evil?

He very well might. I get a bunch of conspiracy stuff from that side of the family.

That reminds me. Apparently the 5G nutters want to sell you a Faraday cage to protect your wifi router from eavesdropping.

Spoiler alert: your wifi router DOESN'T WORK when it's in a Faraday cage.

[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 16:24:39 EST from zooer

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One of my sisters told me that 5G causes cancer.  She has a lot of conspiracy ideas, she thinks that food cooked the in microwave will give you cancer.  If there is a conspiracy she will believe it.  She is an anti-vaxxer as well.
She isn't a republican.

 

One of my mother's friends believed in the shape shifting lizard alien theories. I didn't know the woman, she passed away a few years ago.  The woman would send my mother all sorts of non-sense.  If my mother questioned it, the woman would tell my mother she was not enlightened enough to understand.   



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 19:42:14 EST from LoanShark

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I do hope to become so enlightened some day. Personally, I just think that microwave food *tastes bad*, and the pandemic has given me plenty of opportunities to use the normal oven.

[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 20:07:33 EST from zooer

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She will not microwave water. 



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 21:42:16 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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The weirdest thing about modern society is that more and more frequently, conspiracy theories split along partisan lines.

Not always, if someone is a flat-earther and believes in a satanic Zionist conspiracy theory - I'm generally 95% certain I can tell you other things about that person without ever seeing or meeting them. The Anti-Semitic Flat Earthers are almost all getting information distilled from the Nation of Islam - and you can tell by the rhetoric of the conspiracy that this is where it is coming from, once you've heard it from enough people to put the common link together.

I had an epiphany about the Anti-Vaxxers recently when I watched a show about this blonde woman who had moved to a rural home and was home schooling her children. Some of the things she said made me go... "Oh! She believes in a vast Right Wing conspiracy for sure!"

Now, let me state - I'm not saying that ALL Anti-Vaxxers are on the political Left, or that there are no members of the RIGHT that are anti-vaxxers...

I'm saying there is a specific segment of the Left that is anti-vaxxer for a unified set of reasons, and if you talk to someone in that group, you'll see that it is actually an organized, active group, almost a cult, that interacts, engages in the same activities (protests and activism and other things) and believes the same *particular* Anti-Vaxxer rhetoric.




Wed Dec 30 2020 16:24:39 EST from zooer

One of my sisters told me that 5G causes cancer.  She has a lot of conspiracy ideas, she thinks that food cooked the in microwave will give you cancer.  If there is a conspiracy she will believe it.  She is an anti-vaxxer as well.
She isn't a republican.

 



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 21:43:47 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Actually, you would probably like Pagan Flames if he showed up here. He is a different kind of abrasive than I am... and probably arguably smarter, too.

 

Wed Dec 30 2020 13:04:30 EST from LoanShark

You'll just have to settle for being compared to my crazy uncle ;)

 



[#] Thu Dec 31 2020 04:11:29 EST from arabella

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So that works then:

You can't eavesdrop on a router that doesn't work.

(Post hoc, ergo proctor hoc)



[#] Thu Dec 31 2020 04:13:52 EST from arabella

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The earth cannot possibly be flat,  and I have incontrovertible proof:

If the Earth were flat, the cats would have pushed everything off.



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