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[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 06:39:07 EST from darknetuser

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2021-01-17 21:23 from ParanoidDelusions
Here is the problem to me... 

To fully enable Chormium, the features that make it worth installing

- you have to use a Google account. Same with Firefox - you have to
register. 

I am pretty sure you can have your own Firefox Cloud. Some guy from the Slackware team wrote an article about setting your own. It is not trivial but it is doable.

I myself don't want features in my browser, other than being able to browse sites. I want no History nor password management nor settings management.

[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 09:35:37 EST from Nurb432

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One advantage chromium/chrome has over FF is GPU support. i have never had that work right, on any platform. 



[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 10:54:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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To fully enable Chormium, the features that make it worth installing
- you have to use a Google account. Same with Firefox - you have to

Not for long. Google just announced that they're only going to allow Chrome Sync or whatever they call it from Genuine Full-Spyware Google Chrome Browser.
I don't know what else will or will not work, but it signals that they're going to work harder to keep Chrome users on the plantation.

Personally I don't care because if you're using a privacy focused browser you'd be insane to then go and tether it right back to Google. All I care about is that third-party extensions continue to work.

[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 13:02:01 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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The timing for an announcement like this is interesting. 

"Do no evil, until you're unaccountable for it." 

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 10:54:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
To fully enable Chormium, the features that make it worth installing
- you have to use a Google account. Same with Firefox - you have to

Not for long. Google just announced that they're only going to allow Chrome Sync or whatever they call it from Genuine Full-Spyware Google Chrome Browser.
I don't know what else will or will not work, but it signals that they're going to work harder to keep Chrome users on the plantation.

Personally I don't care because if you're using a privacy focused browser you'd be insane to then go and tether it right back to Google. All I care about is that third-party extensions continue to work.

 



[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 13:46:22 EST from Nurb432

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Well darn, blows chromium on my ARM boards from doing a sync.  as far as i know, 'real' chrome does not exist.

That will have to change with Apple tho. and MS-ARM, Might filter down to Linux people too i guess.

 

Sure there are times i dont want invasive tools anywhere near me, but other times, they can be convenient.   Its all about use case, and common sense.

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 10:54:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
To fully enable Chormium, the features that make it worth installing
- you have to use a Google account. Same with Firefox - you have to

Not for long. Google just announced that they're only going to allow Chrome Sync or whatever they call it from Genuine Full-Spyware Google Chrome Browser.
I don't know what else will or will not work, but it signals that they're going to work harder to keep Chrome users on the plantation.

Personally I don't care because if you're using a privacy focused browser you'd be insane to then go and tether it right back to Google. All I care about is that third-party extensions continue to work.

 



[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 14:57:42 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Chrome browser totally exists for ARM.  What do you think all those Chromebooks are running?



[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 16:25:54 EST from Nurb432

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Odd, my reply got eaten.

 

I agree on that statement, but that is ChromeOS, not "generic" Linux, which runs on those SBC ARM boards. I wasn't clear enough on what i was meaning, sorry about that. 

 

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 14:57:42 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Chrome browser totally exists for ARM.  What do you think all those Chromebooks are running?



 



[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 18:53:21 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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"Refusing to post empty message"

Will flash up across the banner in blue text when you hit post when this happens - and it has been happening on my BBS too, the last few days.

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 16:25:54 EST from Nurb432

Odd, my reply got eaten.

 

I agree on that statement, but that is ChromeOS, not "generic" Linux, which runs on those SBC ARM boards. I wasn't clear enough on what i was meaning, sorry about that. 

 

 



[#] Mon Jan 18 2021 20:39:14 EST from Nurb432

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In this case it was my fault, as yet again i did a simple reply in thunderbird.  So it was user error. 

Mon Jan 18 2021 18:53:21 EST from ParanoidDelusions

"Refusing to post empty message"

Will flash up across the banner in blue text when you hit post when this happens - and it has been happening on my BBS too, the last few days.

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 16:25:54 EST from Nurb432

Odd, my reply got eaten.

 

I agree on that statement, but that is ChromeOS, not "generic" Linux, which runs on those SBC ARM boards. I wasn't clear enough on what i was meaning, sorry about that. 

 

 



 



[#] Thu Jan 21 2021 13:55:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I agree on that statement, but that is ChromeOS, not "generic" Linux,

So it is. I suppose you would be limited to Chromium then.

And nothing of value was lost :)

[#] Fri Jan 29 2021 16:45:18 EST from Nurb432

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When i'm not worried about privacy with the google machine, having 'sync' is a nice thing.  ( most of the time i dont honestly care if they know something or not. if i do, i dont use their products at all )

But since its just an API key, i wonder if i could go get one ( its not hard.. i'm a registered developer ) and add it somewhere in the code, then compile it myself.   It sounds like that is what they were doing, but using 'unapproved keys' or something. ya, more work, but might be worth it.

 

Thu Jan 21 2021 13:55:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
I agree on that statement, but that is ChromeOS, not "generic" Linux,

So it is. I suppose you would be limited to Chromium then.

And nothing of value was lost :)

 



[#] Thu Feb 04 2021 19:57:23 EST from Nurb432

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https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/heads-up-microsoft-repo-secretly-installed-on-all-raspberry-pis-linux-os/

 

Good way to destroy faith of your community, selling out to the man. Going to take them time to recover from the loss in trust.  



[#] Fri Feb 05 2021 13:38:40 EST from Nurb432

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*BSD too, regardless of architecture does not get 'real' chrome. 

Thu Jan 21 2021 13:55:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
I agree on that statement, but that is ChromeOS, not "generic" Linux,

So it is. I suppose you would be limited to Chromium then.

And nothing of value was lost :)

 



[#] Sat Feb 06 2021 11:03:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I'd rather figure out how to run my own sync server.

[#] Sat Feb 06 2021 16:28:05 EST from Nurb432

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i have been looking into NextCloud.  Has some neat features.

Sat Feb 06 2021 11:03:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
I'd rather figure out how to run my own sync server.

 



[#] Sun Feb 07 2021 09:50:12 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Well... that is some bullshit. 

 

Thu Feb 04 2021 19:57:23 EST from Nurb432

https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/heads-up-microsoft-repo-secretly-installed-on-all-raspberry-pis-linux-os/

 

Good way to destroy faith of your community, selling out to the man. Going to take them time to recover from the loss in trust.  



 



[#] Sun Feb 28 2021 21:56:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Pi Foundation doesn't really have the anti-Microsoft sentiment that most of the Linux community does.  They've been offering Windoze 10 on the Pi for a number of years now.  They aren't loyal to open source.  They are trying to re-create the vibe of the 8-bit era when to own a computer was to learn its inner workings and how to tinker with it.  Nearly every computer of that era had some variant of Microsoft BASIC in its ROM.



[#] Mon Mar 01 2021 14:49:22 EST from LoanShark

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with it.  Nearly every computer of that era had some variant of
Microsoft BASIC in its ROM.

Yeah, I learned a while back that Applesoft BASIC was in fact a dialect of Microsoft BASIC. Grr! Arg!

[#] Tue Mar 02 2021 11:57:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Apple, Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments ... they all had a Microsoft BASIC.
And their first attempt at a software monopoly was on the "MSX" computers, but they never really took off in the US.

I spent most of that era tinkering with CP/M. In that world, Microsoft BASIC (known as MBASIC) was a distant second to Digital Research CBASIC.

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