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[#] Sat Nov 16 2013 20:45:25 EST from the8088er

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Nov 11 2013 5:47pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
What I don't understand is why the cabin had a fuel smell in it.
 Properly connected fuel tanks should not ventilate into the cabin
no matter how big they are or where they're located.

The EVAP system lines may be gone. When you fill the tank with liquid, you're displacing a large volume of fuel vapors that have to go somewhere. They travel up lines into a charcoal canister and are burned later when a purge solenoid lets them into the intake.

If they've rotted out fuel vapor will come out of everywhere. This happened in my van.

[#] Mon Nov 18 2013 16:46:54 EST from LoanShark

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should be a "check engine" on newer vehicles if the EVAP dies

[#] Tue Nov 19 2013 07:59:38 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ummm ... folks, we're talking about the guy who modified a vehicle to hold extra fuel so he could drive across the US in a record breaking 28h50m. "Cabin" refers to the interior of the vehicle.

I understand that he added more fuel tanks inside the cabin, but even in that case there should be no fuel smell inside the cabin. It should be filled from the outside and if there is any ventilation, it should ventilate to the outside.

[#] Tue Nov 19 2013 11:08:05 EST from zooer

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Maybe they spilled some fuel.

I had a "Check gas cap" warning on my SUV a few weeks ago. My sister's car wouldn't pass inspection without
replacing some fuel filter or fuel device.

[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 13:44:50 EST from Shazam

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[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 13:47:36 EST from Shazam

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We just leased a plug in Prius. Hoping to be saving big on fuel now, and it's my husband's car but I've driven it and it feels very comfortable. It doesn't have a strong pick up, but there are more important things I suppose, once you are in your mid-30's. I didn't try but I don't know if it actually CAN go faster than like 60 miles an hour. But I like the car.

[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 15:16:54 EST from zooer

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I want my hydrogen powered car.

[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 15:20:17 EST from vince-q

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I am in my mid-60s. That very solid "kick in the ass" that my MR2 Spyder gives me when I hit that gas pedal is just as important now as in years past.

And... the MR2 gets around 35 mpg average on regular gasoline.
AND it's 'bout as fast as the proverbial raped ape!

[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 15:27:51 EST from zooer

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More hydrogen:

Now we just need all the hydrogen stations but we wont get the hydrogen until we get the cars for them and we
wont get the cars for them until we get the stations.

[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 18:06:29 EST from LoanShark

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comfortable. It doesn't have a strong pick up, but there are more

It doesn't have to. I swear more Prius owners pass me than I them -- and it's because they drive that thing like they stole it.

[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 18:08:06 EST from LoanShark

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I am in my mid-60s. That very solid "kick in the ass" that my MR2
Spyder gives me when I hit that gas pedal is just as important now as

Now there's a car. If I didn't need something larger and more practical, I'd have bought one years ago.

That, or a Z4, or a Miata, or a BRZ...

[#] Sat Dec 07 2013 12:35:22 EST from Sig

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I had a few of the first generation MR2s. The most recent one was an 87 which I sold to my little brother. It was the normally aspirated one, but had been someone's baby before I got it: aftermarket suspension, wide low-profile tires, a few other performance parts. Not super fast, but I've never even been in another car that handled so well. On dry pavement, you simply could not break the rear end loose. I tried to find the limits on some of the cloverleafs around here and finally just gave up and accepted that wherever they were, they were above my abilities as a driver.

My red 1988 was a little faster, but more conventionally handling: still very good. It was murdered by a Nissan Titan in a parking lot whose driver didn't know how to use mirrors.

[#] Mon Dec 09 2013 10:40:59 EST from vince-q

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The first generation MR2 was absolutely the finest handling automobile I've ever owned.
My first was a supercharged '88. Fast off the line, but you really paid a price at the gas station.

My next was a naturally aspirated '88, bought as a literal piece of junk (body-wise) and restored over roughly a 3 year period by me. Well, actually by my favorite body shop. A magnificent car. I personally put about 210,000 miles on it between 2005 and 2010 and sold it with 330,000 miles on it for about 4x what it cost me to buy it. Broke even on the restoration - well, almost, but close enough.

My present "toy" is the 2002 MR2 Spyder. Faster than any car I've ever owned (naturally aspirated, though Toyota thoughtfully put mounting points and holes for a turbo if you do an aftermarket job - there was never a turbo option for the Spyder).

However, the Spyder has more than just a slight hint of Porsche 911 hazard built in.
Yes - that infamous "throttle-up over-steer" thing in a corner.
*****If***** you know how to make that work *for* you it is a marvel.
If not, it *****will***** end up killing you by throwing you into a spinout and into a wall or over the edge into a canyon.

A truly wonderful car - particularly considering that it was only MSRP $24,500 when brand new. I bought mine used in 2010 with only 57K on the 'clock.'
I paid $11,500.
I turned down $13,500 about 4 weeks ago.

[#] Mon Dec 09 2013 19:31:16 EST from Sig

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I loved both cars (and my older brother's '86 before them), but with two kids under 5, I needed something with at least a notional backseat. I'd been looking for mid-80s Celicas or Supras, but happened upon a 1973 Capri v6 2.6L with only 42k miles, so that's conveniently in my price range, so that's my driver now. My parents had a '74 when I was a kid, so it was like buying my childhood for $3500. As a bonus, after we converted to electronic ignition, I averaged 27 mpg year round. (Have some carb problems at the moment; it's a bit off.)

[#] Mon Dec 09 2013 23:39:10 EST from vince-q <>

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Have you considered the Datsun 260Z? 1974 to 1979 if memory serves, and it was available in a "2+2" version with a 2-person back seat which folded down to give you a surprisingly large storeage area. No trunk; a hatchback. And.... FAST !! [Note - 'Datsun' is the name they used before switching over to the corporate Nissan brand name here in the US]

[#] Tue Dec 10 2013 22:23:43 EST from Sig

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If I had seen one when I was looking in decent condition, I could easily have gone the Z-car route.

[#] Wed Dec 11 2013 07:57:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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hatchback. And.... FAST !! [Note - 'Datsun' is the name they used
before switching over to the corporate Nissan brand name here in the

"Yokomatashimitakabi-san! You must think of a name for our American division by tomorrow!"

"That soon?!?"

"Yes! Very good! We will call it Dat-sun!"

[#] Thu Dec 12 2013 15:53:46 EST from vince-q <>

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"Yes! Very good! We will call it Dat-sun!"

Ouch !!

[#] Tue Dec 17 2013 13:21:00 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Thank you, I'll be here all week. Tip your waiters!

[#] Wed Dec 18 2013 23:57:13 EST from ax25

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Nice joke on Dat-sun.  One of my best friends that I knew growing up had a 280z.  Fun little car.  Glad I did not die in it.  It was a bit of a hand and glove type car in the fact that you could "feel" what it was going to do in situations.  My friend loved to do the parking brake "Rockford Files" flip turn around and go the opposite direction.   Glad to have survived his controlled maneuvers as his previous car (an early model Estate Wagon - one that you could fit the 280z in the back of ala Knight Rider on ramps in to the semi), had bad brakes and he regularly depended on snow banks to slow or even stop the car when coming up on intersections or the final destination.  It made exiting the car extra fun.

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