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[#] Fri Aug 08 2014 11:31:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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True, but that's only part of the reason. As you all know I have anger management issues; since I am a tiny weakling I've always had trouble with confrontation so I spend a lot of time fantasizing about Very Bad Things happening to people who mess with me.

[#] Fri Aug 08 2014 13:43:28 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Everyone may now commence with your best "how to deal with a speeding

ticket" strategies. I'm willing to spend any amount of money to keep

the black marks on my license and insurance minimized.



I don't know about New York, but in California if you have not had any tickets in the past 18 months, and your ticket is classified as an "infraction" and is not DUI/DWI you are eligible to attend traffic school (many are online and those are acceptable). After completing traffic school, the school will notify your State DMV and the ticket will be "invisible" to your insurance company and your rates will *not* increase.

Here in CA you get to do this once every 18 months.

Again, "your mileage may vary" and I have NO idea if this is even possible in NY, but it is certainly worth exploring.

You probably will have to plead guilty to the ticket and pay the fine, but it does save you the insurance premium hike (which in most states "sticks around" for 3 years after the date of conviction/plea).

**Note: In CA you can get as many tickets as your wallet and lifestyle can withstand. You get to "eliminate" one every 18 months. If you are normally a good driver and get nabbed by "the typical asshole cop" this saves your skin. If you are "Joe Speed-Racer" you deserve what you got.

[#] Fri Aug 08 2014 16:12:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I for one would like to see "the typical asshole cop" get mowed down by "Joe Speed-Racer" the next time he steps out of his patrol vehicle. (Remember: not a lot of people survive in IG's Utopia.)

There is a traffic school point reduction program in NY, and that may end up becoming part of the package. Because the stakes are high in this case I have decided to outsource the pleading of this case to an attorney who will represent me in court using whatever strategy he deems appropriate for the situation.

My perception of police in general has always been positive. It's a shame this asshole ruined that. He needs to be relocated to some unstable middle-east nation where his assholery will be handled in an appropriate fashion.

[#] Fri Aug 08 2014 18:28:56 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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There is a traffic school point reduction program in NY, and that may

end up becoming part of the package. Because the stakes are high in

this case I have decided to outsource the pleading of this case to an

attorney who will represent me in court using whatever strategy he
deems appropriate for the situation.


If you were 'clocked' by police radar ("radiopositioning equipment") MAKE SURE that your attorney is completely conversant in how to do pre-trial discovery. You need:

1. a certified copy of the FCC license covering the law enforcement agency that issued the citation
2. a certified copy of the inventory of radiopositioning equipment on hand on the day of your citation.

If #1 is less than #2 then it is the obligation of the Prosecution to ***prove*** that the radar unit used by the cop in question is one of the LICENSED units covered by the FCC license. The FCC does NOT license by serial number or model, only by "total number of units." Thus is it absolutely impossible for the prosecutor to meet his burden of proof, and the case must be dismissed.

3. make sure you have a record of the time of day/night, temperature, humidity and ambient weather conditions (clear, cloudy, drizzle, rain, whatever). This information is essential should it be necessary for you to mount a defense based on the known technical shortcomings of microwave-based radiopositioning to accurately determine speeds in less than ideal weather conditions. Ground scatter, temperature inversion(s), and the presence of other moving objects are all sources of error, all of which lead to introducing "reasonable doubt" which is all that need be done to lead to a verdict of not guilty. Remember, traffic court is ****criminal court**** and must follow all the rules of evidence, etc. and offer the defendant (you) all the constitutional protections.

4. the exact radar "gun" the cop used to "clock" you must under law be periodically calibrated. Here in CA it is once in every 48 hours. Calibration is a simple process and is easy to do, but it is fun to put the cop on the stand and ask him/her about it, "salting" the examination with lots of Physics Traps to make the cop look incompetent, which introduces doubt into the accuracy of the calibration, which introduces doubt into the validity of the only evidence against you (the radar reading) and leads to a dismissal.

So, as you can hopefully see, "Joe Lawyer" is absolutely NOT good enough. You need a radar specialist. You will need an expert witness. Put the right lawyer and the right expert in that courtroom and YOU WILL PREVAIL.

[#] Fri Aug 08 2014 22:44:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's fascinating. Now write it again for laser instead of radar. :)

[#] Sat Aug 09 2014 11:57:45 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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No.

[#] Sun Aug 10 2014 22:45:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Therein lies the rub. This particular speed trap was laser, not radar.

[#] Sun Aug 10 2014 23:21:26 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Laser is not susceptible to quite the same sort of error as radar, however think optics and find an expert. And an expert lawyer.

Laser is not subject to licensing - it is not a radio - so those discoveries and arguments won't work.

I'll be honest - no experience here. I'm the "radar guy." And have never had a radar ticket "stick" in roughly 50 years driving.

[#] Wed Aug 27 2014 14:41:51 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Iggy,

In MA and CT, if you "appeal" the ticket and the officer does not show up to defend, the ticket is expunged (guilty or not).  Most of the time (at least in MA and CT), the officers don't show up because it's a PIA and they have to go off-radio and sit in the courthouse until their ticket comes up for review.  Would imagine NY has something similar.

(My dad has a double-lead foot.)



[#] Wed Aug 27 2014 15:04:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That is the case here as well. It is my understanding that the law firm that is representing me will likely make use of a strategy involving postponing the hearing as many times as they are allowed to, increasing the likelihood that the asshole cop will either not show up or will be in poorer shape to argue his (wrong) side of the story.

[#] Wed Aug 27 2014 17:10:29 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Once upon a time a friend of mine got a ticket in NJ for, what else, speeding.


I called "someone I knew" and was told to let my friend know that he was to get his (automatic) first postponement.

He then went to work. He was... mmmm... a hacker.

He managed to "get the cop transferred" to the far northwest corner of NJ the day before the rescheduled hearing.

Needless to say, the cop failed to appear and the ticket was thrown out.


Amazing what one can do when one manages to log into a "certain computer" and then "become root" and.... <very evil grin>

[#] Thu Aug 28 2014 09:24:21 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Was this, by chance, the same person who once set the telco switch so that a friend of his received a message indicating that the number from which he was calling had been disconnected? ;-)



[#] Thu Aug 28 2014 10:29:22 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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It was.... <evil grin>

[#] Fri Aug 29 2014 10:35:33 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Classic!



[#] Fri Aug 29 2014 11:18:48 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Freaky - you also know the 'ticketed' person (not me).

[#] Tue Sep 02 2014 09:44:26 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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No doubt.



[#] Sun Sep 07 2014 17:13:13 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Actually saw a DeLorean on the road... what a killer body style, so low-slung and road-hugging. too bad the engine was a dog

[#] Sun Sep 07 2014 23:11:52 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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As long as it got you to 88mph you were golden.

[#] Mon Sep 08 2014 14:35:49 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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The driver was pushing the car to 75mph, which is about 90% of the car's top speed ;)

He bottomed out the suspension once, on the Cross Bronx, at a poorly maintained overlap. Sparks flew. He learned for the next one, and slowed way down...

[#] Mon Sep 08 2014 14:49:54 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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He bottomed out the suspension once, on the Cross Bronx, at a poorly

maintained overlap. Sparks flew. He learned for the next one, and
slowed way down...



The Cross Bronx still exists? It was the living proof of decaying highway infrastructure the *last* time I drove it - and *that* was in the early 1990s....

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