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[#] Sat Feb 11 2023 12:36:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Remember that we don't all see the images.  Some of us are old-skool and spend most of our time in the text client :)



[#] Sat Feb 11 2023 15:52:49 EST from Nurb432

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Is there a way to mark there is an image there? Short of me typing  "Image enclosed"

Sat Feb 11 2023 12:36:50 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Remember that we don't all see the images.  Some of us are old-skool and spend most of our time in the text client :)



 



[#] Sun Feb 12 2023 06:55:02 EST from nonservator

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There is an image here but your client software is too weak to see it



[#] Sun Feb 12 2023 08:06:45 EST from Nurb432

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lol

Sun Feb 12 2023 06:55:02 AM EST from nonservator

There is an image here but your client software is too weak to see it



 



[#] Sun Feb 12 2023 17:26:13 EST from darknetuser

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It's a screencap of a warning at the top of a Google search result

that says "It looks like the results below are changing quickly. If

this topic is new, it can sometimes take time for reliable sources to

publish information." and then it suggests you either check whether

sources are trusted or come back later.


You are my hero. You would only be better if you were a horse too.


It is too bad there are not many search engines with their own sizeable index. From the top of my hat I know:

* Google
* Bing
* Yandex
* Mojeek
* Gigablast

The last two are somehow independant.

Then there are the myriad small projects which have cool implementations but pityful indexes :(

SE censorship is real. I have known it for a long time, but I found my thoughts well reflected in that site from digdeeper. Everybody here should check that out.

https://digdeeper.club/articles/search.xhtml

http://r7mv4w5dlcpha4sr5oseugwulntbuds7l6wzvszzformlyhutdtq.b32.i2p/articles/s earch.xhtml

[#] Sun Feb 12 2023 17:29:45 EST from Nurb432

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YaCy. Problem solved.



[#] Sun Feb 12 2023 17:41:21 EST from darknetuser

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2023-02-12 17:29 from Nurb432
YaCy. Problem solved.


Yes and no.

For one, running a crawler from an IP you control is a burden on you, specially if the crawler has issues that make it look like a denial of service.

And then, the performance is not great.

Which is a pity because I want to like YaCy.

[#] Sun Feb 12 2023 17:53:24 EST from Nurb432

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My understanding is performance is based on the number of peers. so the more marketing we can do and get people involved , the faster it goes. And while i accept ti costs money, putting your instance on a VPS helps isolate your home network from potential issues.

 

Didn't mean to imply ALL problems solved as nothing comes without some bumps. I was implying the tendency for the bias you get from the commercial ones is resolved.

sort of like TOR/i2p/etc   its not perfect, but you do solve the main problem its meant to, anonymity.

Sun Feb 12 2023 05:41:21 PM EST from darknetuser
2023-02-12 17:29 from Nurb432
YaCy. Problem solved.


Yes and no.

For one, running a crawler from an IP you control is a burden on you, specially if the crawler has issues that make it look like a denial of service.

And then, the performance is not great.

Which is a pity because I want to like YaCy.

 



[#] Tue Apr 04 2023 09:22:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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So what is that ... some sort of democratized search engine? That's probably the best possible end state if the search results cannot be manipulated or redacted by a search engine operator with an editorial agenda.

I have to admit I'm amazed that people still go out of their way to use Google and Chrome instead of just launching whatever came with the operating system.
That's some serious brand loyalty.

[#] Tue Apr 04 2023 17:53:22 EDT from darknetuser

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2023-04-04 09:22 from IGnatius T Foobar
So what is that ... some sort of democratized search engine? That's

probably the best possible end state if the search results cannot be

manipulated or redacted by a search engine operator with an editorial

agenda.

I have to admit I'm amazed that people still go out of their way to

use Google and Chrome instead of just launching whatever came with the

operating system.
That's some serious brand loyalty.



YaCy is a distributed search engine.

The idea is you have your own instance with your own crawler and indexes. When you make a search, your instance asks the rest of the YaCy instances and their answers are pooled with the answers retrieved by your own index.


See also Wiby.me :)

[#] Tue Apr 04 2023 21:53:19 EDT from zelgomer

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I have to admit I'm amazed that people still go out of their way to
use Google and Chrome instead of just launching whatever came with the

operating system.
That's some serious brand loyalty.


There are a lot of people still using Windows. Surely you can understand a desire to escape Microsoft products, even if it is misguided.

[#] Sun Apr 30 2023 00:40:44 EDT from thesirdotcom

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Does anyone know of any good de-centralized engines like Ya-cy that are live now to the public?  I recently have decided to migrate away from the goolge/bing padded-cell and discover new things for a change.  Obviously it is difficult to find such things nowadays!  I can think of no more fun I had than in the early 90s accessing the web through a telnet connection to wustl.edu library and using Lynx.  Things only went downhill from there.  No images, but lots of information that shaped me which would never happen now.



[#] Sun Apr 30 2023 08:22:17 EDT from Nurb432

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What is wrong with YaCY? 

Not distributed but how about duck duck go? not perfect but better.

And as silly as it sounds, something like yandex, While still a huge corp i have found it less restrictive/biased ( for non-Russian things anyway, i cant comment about in-country bias ) than google.

 

Sun Apr 30 2023 12:40:44 AM EDT from thesirdotcom Subject: De-centralized search engines

Does anyone know of any good de-centralized engines like Ya-cy that are live now to the public?  I recently have decided to migrate away from the goolge/bing padded-cell and discover new things for a change.  Obviously it is difficult to find such things nowadays!  I can think of no more fun I had than in the early 90s accessing the web through a telnet connection to wustl.edu library and using Lynx.  Things only went downhill from there.  No images, but lots of information that shaped me which would never happen now.



 



[#] Sun Apr 30 2023 08:35:36 EDT from nonservator

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I don't default to yandex, but I've repeatedly resorted to it and usually found what I was looking for on the first page of results, uncluttered by duplicates and spam.



[#] Sun Apr 30 2023 10:07:26 EDT from Nurb432

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Funny thing is if you ask google about Yandex, the first entry ( for me anyway ) was a hit piece on it.. 

 

lol

Sun Apr 30 2023 08:35:36 AM EDT from nonservator Subject: Re: De-centralized search engines

I don't default to yandex, but I've repeatedly resorted to it and usually found what I was looking for on the first page of results, uncluttered by duplicates and spam.



 



[#] Mon May 01 2023 11:55:43 EDT from nonservator

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Yandex is filthy commie search engine. Use good American search engine like Google, citizen!



[#] Mon May 01 2023 12:00:34 EDT from Nurb432

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20 years ago id agree.

Sad state of affairs when Russia and China are less corrupt..

Mon May 01 2023 11:55:43 AM EDT from nonservator Subject: Re: De-centralized search engines

Yandex is filthy commie search engine. Use good American search engine like Google, citizen!



 



[#] Tue May 02 2023 12:44:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Funny thing about that, just today I got scolded by the corporate security goons because I used Yandex.

[#] Tue May 02 2023 12:46:03 EDT from darknetuser

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2023-04-30 00:40 from thesirdotcom
Subject: De-centralized search engines
Does anyone know of any good de-centralized engines like Ya-cy that

are live now to the public?  I recently have decided to migrate away

from the goolge/bing padded-cell and discover new things for a
change.  Obviously it is difficult to find such things nowadays!  I

can think of no more fun I had than in the early 90s accessing the

web through a telnet connection to wustl.edu library and using
Lynx.  Things only went downhill from there.  No images, but lots

of information that shaped me which would never happen now.


All the search engines I know that aren't Yaci are centralized.

From the top of my head, fun projects that have their own index are Wiby.me (which indexes hobby sites and excludes bloated or adloaded sites), searchmysite.net (similar focus) and search.marginalia.nu.

There is also Gigablast, which is a bit more "pro".

If you want something more distributed there is Searx. There are lots of Searx instances acting as proxies and metaengines. Still not what you are looking for.

[#] Tue May 02 2023 14:22:35 EDT from Nurb432

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At my office, i'm sure its outright blocked. Especially considering who i work for. Last year they canceled all contracts with Russian based firms. So, not even going to try there. And, just last week i heard they blocked ChatGPT...  

Tue May 02 2023 12:44:17 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: De-centralized search engines
Funny thing about that, just today I got scolded by the corporate security goons because I used Yandex.

 



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