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[#] Sat Nov 06 2021 09:19:35 EDT from Nurb432

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How about: A mild sniffle to massive flu then? :)

Agreed we have not been 'well' a long long time, but whatever we call it, its degenerated massively before our eyes the last few years.  Having been around a while, its been a slow logarithmic curve i feel, and it seems like it took a dramatic upturn during Trump's run/election. it was like the left woke up one morning " this is it, our last chance to destroy everything, we have to do it, all, now... ".  

I cant say if its been a world wide conscious coordinated effort to raise the bar ( and beat us with it ), or just them all feeding off each other. But it clear its planet wide, not just here in the states.

Fri Nov 05 2021 08:20:29 PM EDT from zelgomer

 

Did it became this sick in such a short time, or were we (at large) just asleep at the wheel? There are a lot of things wrong with our country that were set in motion before even my parents were born. I get the feeling that this has been cooking for a long time.


 



[#] Sat Nov 06 2021 12:22:25 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Gen X here. All of this, completely resonates. 

If I were single, I do not think I would have the vax. I have it like most things I have but do not want, because my wife has it. 

I'm not sure that is the absolute reason. I have a certain relief that I have the vax... a certain peace. Regardless of if that is a false sense of security or not, I have it, mentally. Taking the jab and not developing any immediate severe side effects (3 times) was worth the SENSE of security afterwards. 

But I agree.. the Boomers aren't NEARING retirement age - they're there. You can count them out. They're the generation who, when Trump started shaking shit up, bailed on him for being, "Too brash, too crass, too confrontational, too unprofessional." They're ALWAYS that way - by the way. Though they are the "Summer of Love" revolutionaries - they absolutely believe in old school values of some sort of moral right. It is why so many of them are such self-righteous Left leaning fruitcakes. As conservatives, Boomers are CLASSIC conservatives. They believe in law and order and behaving respectfully and Traditional Family Values. They're real Salt of the Earth Midwestern small town people. 

As *liberals*, Boomers are free-range, granola eating, share equally, envision world peace, love-thy-neighbor, rainbows and sunflowers hippy pacifists. They're the ones with the sappy bumper stickers who pay it forward and give money to every homeless person they see. They believe love and positivity can change the world. 

Gen X is nearing retirement age - and you can't really trust *us* - as antidisestablishmentarian as our generation has a reputation for being. What we are - largely... I mean, a lot of us are very reactionary and take a side and join that tribe and then we're very *hostile* about defending it against anyone on any OTHER side... but we're also, a lot of us, and always have been - apathetic. We totally rejected that hippy shit. We think violence changes the world, that might DOES make right, or at least, makes things happen, that everything is corrupt, that the game is rigged, and that knowing the truth won't set you free, it'll just confirm that freedom is an illusion. 

The fact that there are so few millennials who think like you kind of confirms that suspicion. We're fucked. 


So don't trust us either. We talk a lot of shit and like to act like we're ready to tear down the system violently and shake things up... but when things get crazy - we tend to be self-preservationists and narcissists. That was true when we didn't have anything to lose. Now a lot of us are pretty damn comfortable. and we can see the finish line... even though it isn't exactly close. I think we're trying to judge if we can make it across before things go to shit. And most of us think we can... 

Which leaves you guys holding the bag - and it is one your generation has actually mostly *asked* for... so... 

Gen X saw a lot of our generation make a lot of bad decisions even when their peers were warning them "this doesn't turn out good." At some point, I think a lot of us took a "Hey, it is your funeral," approach to that. 

And I think we're doing that with YOUR generation now. You end up living with the results during what should be the best years of your life - not us. Hope it works out like you think it does as a generation - but I think it'll be a lot closer to what *we* think it is and you'll be unhappy with the dish you get served.  

 




Fri Nov 05 2021 16:17:39 EDT from zelgomer

 

And I think that I could look back on my life and find that to be a running theme. 



 



[#] Sat Nov 06 2021 13:10:01 EDT from Nurb432

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I think no matter what happens, or how, this is the final outcome. And we unfortunately get to witness it. I saw it coming when i was a kid, and I was hoping to be long gone by the time this happened.  Living thru a collapse sucks, for those that dont make it but even more so for the ones that do.

Side note, not real sure what generation i am. I'm right in the grey-area at the end of boomers, and beginning of X. so i get a bit of both i guess?  And, as far as 'generations' go, I do think the boomers are "less trustable" out of reality, not intent. They are getting to the point they CANT do anything, even if they wanted to.

 

 

Sat Nov 06 2021 12:22:25 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

We're fucked.

 



[#] Sat Nov 06 2021 20:11:40 EDT from Nurb432

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agreed

Fri Nov 05 2021 08:31:59 PM EDT from zelgomer
By the way, speaking of martyrs, Kyle Rittenhouse is a goddamn national hero.

 



[#] Sat Nov 06 2021 20:11:48 EDT from Nurb432

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Vax mandate put on hold by the courts.

Nice to hear good news once in a while. 



[#] Mon Nov 08 2021 11:07:43 EST from zelgomer

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2021-11-07 00:11 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Vax mandate put on hold by the courts.

Nice to hear good news once in a while. 


That is good news. It won't stop businesses from imposing their own mandates, though, and they'll still use the federal mandate as a CYA excuse. "It's still a good idea, it's just that those mean old death cult republican judges want us to all get sick."
Still, if it comes down to employer's choice, then at least maybe there will some chance of shopping around for the right employer. Or for slowly chipping away at the helicopter busy bodies at my employer.


Also, I don't take back anything I said. Well, maybe the part about starting the war. If there could just be a peaceful secession, that would probably be the best outcome for everybody. I won't hold my breath for that one.

[#] Mon Nov 08 2021 13:05:28 EST from Nurb432

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There cant be a peaceful secession.  DC wont let go of all those tax payers without a ( literal ) fight.  

True, legally a state can flip the feds the bird and walk, but since when do laws matter?

Mon Nov 08 2021 11:07:43 AM EST from zelgomer
Also, I don't take back anything I said. Well, maybe the part about starting the war. If there could just be a peaceful secession, that would probably be the best outcome for everybody. I won't hold my breath for that one.

 



[#] Mon Nov 08 2021 17:29:04 EST from Nurb432

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LOL the main witness in the Kyle RittenHouse trial for the prosecution, just painted the picture of self defense.  ( as we all know it was )

 

Sure, Kyle was a dumbass for going, as you KNOW there would be trouble. BUT its still a free country and you should not be threatened with death for going, and be able to protect yourself from harm without legal repercussions. 

I hope the counter sue the state.. 



[#] Mon Nov 08 2021 21:26:31 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Looks like Rittenhouse will finally get justice. 

 



[#] Tue Nov 09 2021 17:24:00 EST from Nurb432

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Biden today " i dont care what the court says, do it anyway "

How is that not grounds for impeachment ( at the least )



[#] Wed Nov 10 2021 22:17:22 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Andrew Jackson quote: The Supreme Court has made its ...

 

There is a reason the Court doesn't have the ability to enforce - why the 3 branches, legislative, judicial and um... shit... damn Covid shot... the uh... EXECUTIVE... heh... is *supposed* to have assigned roles. It is really designed so that no single branch can, in theory, act unilaterally. We've had courts with the power of military behind them before. That ended poorly for liberty. Just saying... 

Tue Nov 09 2021 17:24:00 EST from Nurb432

Biden today " i dont care what the court says, do it anyway "

How is that not grounds for impeachment ( at the least )



 



[#] Thu Nov 11 2021 21:20:52 EST from zelgomer

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Sure, Kyle was a dumbass for going, as you KNOW there would be
trouble. BUT its still a free country and you should not be
threatened with death for going, and be able to protect yourself from


I keep seeing this sort of sentiment and I couldn't disagree more. He knew the owners of the business he was defending and he had been there all day cleaning up and helping. To me, he comes off as genuinely there to help, which is something I wouldn't have done. I want to be Kyle Rittenhouse when I grow up.

In a just world he should be acquitted, no question. But since we don't live in a just world, I kind of think the defense should be using the prosecutor's oversteps as leverage to push for mistrial with prejudice (I know they threatened to yesterday, not sure if they actually followed through). I wouldn't want to bet my life on any jury actually making an objective ruling.

Seeing the prosecution and The Bicep's cross, I'm convinced that an embarassing number of people involved in this process don't actually have a very strong grasp of the law.

[#] Fri Nov 12 2021 06:58:06 EST from Nurb432

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Yes he was trying to help and im not saying dont help others, but when the house is on fire and you go in to save the cat, expect to be burnt. 

He did nothing 'wrong', but i dont think it was a smart move to go to help *then*.  



[#] Fri Nov 12 2021 14:46:01 EST from Nurb432

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So 8 dollar a gallon gas by spring. At least for those of us that dont freeze to death during the winter...

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/the-donlon-report/biden-administration-considers-closing-michigan-pipeline-to-canada



[#] Fri Nov 12 2021 18:04:52 EST from nonservator

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Prosecutor Binger apparently believes the safe and responsible thing to do with a rifle when out in public in a riot, is not to keep it in ones possession at all times, but to lay it on the ground and walk away so that any random person can pick it up and do whatever they want with it.

Binger, a professional who is paid to know and understand the law, also purports to be amazed to learn that it is legal for a minor to have a rifle, but illegal for a minor to have a handgun.



[#] Sat Nov 13 2021 08:55:45 EST from Nurb432

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Expect a push for that to change now by the media and democrat leadership. Funny tho, I didnt see any age requirements in the constitution. 

 

I guess CBS also called him a murder, before the verdict..  i would sue them into oblivion.  Libel and tainting a jury.

Fri Nov 12 2021 06:04:52 PM EST from nonservator

 

Binger, a professional who is paid to know and understand the law, also purports to be amazed to learn that it is legal for a minor to have a rifle, but illegal for a minor to have a handgun.



 



[#] Sat Nov 13 2021 10:49:10 EST from Nurb432

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Well, even more good news.  Reaffirmed..   Next stop SCOTUS where it dies.    Of course they will try something else, but hey, its nice to see when law triumphs over tyranny. 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/581401-federal-appeals-court-affirms-stay-on-biden-vaccine-mandate-for-businesses



[#] Sun Nov 14 2021 18:18:19 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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By the way, speaking of martyrs, Kyle Rittenhouse is a goddamn national

hero.

Yeah. The people who keep shouting "defund the police" ought to expect MORE vigilante activity if they get their way.

[#] Sun Nov 14 2021 18:22:04 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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In a just world he should be acquitted, no question. But since we
don't live in a just world, I kind of think the defense should be using


For the record, Derek Chauvin should have been acquitted as well. It isn't his fault that a career criminal overdosed on illegal drugs under his custody.

[#] Sun Nov 14 2021 18:49:55 EST from zelgomer

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For the record, Derek Chauvin should have been acquitted as well. It

isn't his fault that a career criminal overdosed on illegal drugs under

his custody.

Agree. I think I am O.K. with the manslaughter charge if you believe the testimonies about the number of people and length of time he had his knee of Floyd's back. But murder is ridiculous. Chauvin didn't strike me as a great guy, and sure he was maybe negligent, but come on. Floyd killed himself.

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