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[#] Thu Oct 14 2021 19:36:44 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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So far, what I've seen of the Magic Mouse - just brings a limited feature set of the touchpad gestures to the mouse - and adds virtualized iPhone style scrolling and page swiping and features like this. Oh. You're talking about the "bar"! 


I mean... I *liked* the Compiz Cube... so... flashy sparkly things... I dig 'em. I think I'd probably like it. 


So... here is another thing about Apple/Mac. Every time I start using this 2012 i7... it frustrates me that I can't really *use* it because of Radeongate. So, being a PC guy, I think... "Surely some Chinese vendor has made a replacement bottom with big heat sinks and heavy duty fans designed JUST to solve THIS particular problem. If it were a PC - someone would have made something like this. 

There aren't even DIY solutions - really. People just went, "Yup, these Macs cook themselves, and there is nothing to be done about it but use them until they die and then buy another, new Mac and hope they didn't make the same mistake again. 

I've considered taking it apart and basically building it into a case - because I don't NEED a laptop. 

The frustrating thing too - is that the 2015 model - which still suffers from premature thermal death - is still going for $400 for the i5 model. It isn't as prone to thermal death as the 2012 models. 

I *should* really just take it apart, put some Arctic Silver on it after sanding the surface of the GPU and CPU - and then running it until it does die. That isn't bad advice. But... taking the whole thing apart to that level and rebuilding it again is a chore. 

 

It just really pisses me off. 

 

Thu Oct 14 2021 18:45:49 EDT from Nurb432

For the short period of time i had OSX on the new laptop, it did more than just "function keys". it would pop up prompts and things too. Bounce around various buttons and dialogs in various colors, and was rather distracting to be honest.  ( if i was using the laptop screen that is. With a monitor and the thing closed up you dont see it of course. )

with Linux and proper drivers, its back to just being F-keys

Thu Oct 14 2021 05:47:53 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

 

They *are* good at gimmicks. I bet I'd learn to love that little bar on the new MBPs too, if I had one of those... because it feels *fancy*... doing what a PC can do already, but doing it in an expensive, showy way instead of in a very practical, plain manner. 






 



 



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 10:14:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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But, once they started going down the path of actively locking
customers into their ecosystem, and only their ecosystem, that is
when i had problems with them. They became the exact thing people
like Woz detested.  Many of us actually.

That's *really* on point, actually. If you've ever read the history of that era (Steven Levy's "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution" is a great read and is easy to find online without buying it) there's a lot of talk about how the people who built the first microcomputers were actively working to make the technology as accessible as possible to as many people as possible.
Open design and extensibility were understood to be basic rules of the game.

I think Woz continued to feel that way, probably still does. That probably has a lot to do with why he didn't continue working with Mr. Magic Pancreas once things really got going.

[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 10:20:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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It seems like Amazon has caused significantly relaxed rules on
electrical safety - and it started with consumers buying cheap
Chinese knock-offs.

I wonder how it is around the world.

Most people agree that the UK plug (BS 1363) is far superior to the US plug (NEMA 5-15). It's got chunkier pins, cannot be inserted backwards, and *must* be grounded.

Although ... I've seen CheapChinese plugs for UK use where the ground pin is just a piece of plastic, merely there to open the shutters on the other two pins.

[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 12:05:44 EDT from Nurb432

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I suspect Mr Sugar water had more to do with concept of lock-in than Jobs.   But jobs sure as hell continued and accelerated it when he returned..

Woz is on the 'right to repair' bandwagon, so hes not changed much, if at all.

Mon Oct 18 2021 10:14:32 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I think Woz continued to feel that way, probably still does. That probably has a lot to do with why he didn't continue working with Mr. Magic Pancreas once things really got going.

 



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 15:44:30 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I'm pretty sure the world is beholden to Chinesium products at this point. I buy a lot of retro and FPGA stuff from Europe now - and the plugs in particular - are all made in China, and all of various degrees of shoddy construction. 

One of them, it just had a little slide out panel that would convert it from EU to US prongs. "Auto switching". 

 

 

Mon Oct 18 2021 10:20:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
It seems like Amazon has caused significantly relaxed rules on
electrical safety - and it started with consumers buying cheap
Chinese knock-offs.

I wonder how it is around the world.

Most people agree that the UK plug (BS 1363) is far superior to the US plug (NEMA 5-15). It's got chunkier pins, cannot be inserted backwards, and *must* be grounded.

Although ... I've seen CheapChinese plugs for UK use where the ground pin is just a piece of plastic, merely there to open the shutters on the other two pins.

 



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 17:11:33 EDT from Nurb432

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If any of the major players collapse, the entire world would be hurting.  Global supply chain, we all are a critical link.. ( and clearly its getting rusty. )

 



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 17:24:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I'd be ok with a little temporary supply chain pain if it meant that China was withdrawn from the whole picture.

[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 17:30:29 EDT from Nurb432

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As long as someone else picks up the slack for what they make. 

I sort of like having 'things'.

Mon Oct 18 2021 05:24:39 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I'd be ok with a little temporary supply chain pain if it meant that China was withdrawn from the whole picture.

 



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 17:31:21 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Like toilet paper. 

 

Mon Oct 18 2021 17:30:29 EDT from Nurb432

As long as someone else picks up the slack for what they make. 

I sort of like having 'things'.

Mon Oct 18 2021 05:24:39 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I'd be ok with a little temporary supply chain pain if it meant that China was withdrawn from the whole picture.

 



 



[#] Mon Oct 25 2021 06:01:03 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-10-18 17:24 from IGnatius T Foobar
I'd be ok with a little temporary supply chain pain if it meant that

China was withdrawn from the whole picture.



Hard to accomplish.

If any Western steps in in order to manufacture whatever the Chinesse are not supplying today, the Chinesse will start supplying it again dumping prices, and the Western will go crack.

It is hard to step in anyway, since China controls a lot of prime matter extraction via controlling African countries. I know people who wants the Brittish back because Brits were not as bad as the Chinesse. I think this is saying something.

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