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[#] Sat Aug 07 2021 20:42:38 EDT from test2

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 Apple has access to a petabytes of pornography and hash strings to go along with them.  they're gonna scan you for the children.  if they don't like you they can plant a few photos and turn you in.  timestamps and system logs?- no problem.  it's like face recognition cept it's booby, vjj and trouser snake recognition.  soon to be an exclusive new iphone filter.

 

Sat Aug 07 2021 09:47:36 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions


- they're claiming they can scan encrypted files for a *hash* of some sort and compare that to a profile in a database...

Fri Aug 06 2021 19:22:20 EDT from Nurb432

Oh, and also 'scan users encrypted messages'.

"Its for the children"

 

wtf wtf wtf



 



 



[#] Sat Aug 07 2021 21:19:30 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Jello hate the political Left, too... so don't get too bent. I'm not sure what his world would look like, if he could make it happen - but I'm pretty sure it would actually be very libertarian. 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoRMKXVkmE

 

 



[#] Sun Aug 08 2021 10:53:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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It's starting to sound as if the only truly "secure" phone is one that you've rooted yourself.



[#] Sun Aug 08 2021 15:29:51 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Possibly. 

You know the NSA is intercepting new laptops, opening them up, putting a surface mounted chip on the motherboard that is "undetectable," packaging the boxes back up, and sending them on to their destination. I watched a DefCon talk about that about 5 years ago. 

You can't trust the *hardware* - not just the software. 

Sun Aug 08 2021 10:53:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

It's starting to sound as if the only truly "secure" phone is one that you've rooted yourself.



 



[#] Sun Aug 08 2021 16:07:36 EDT from Nurb432

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I wonder if they do it with Chinese stuff.

While i dont trust the CCP, im less worried about them knowing what i bought at the grocery than the NSA.

Sun Aug 08 2021 03:29:51 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Possibly. 

You know the NSA is intercepting new laptops, opening them up, putting a surface mounted chip on the motherboard that is "undetectable," packaging the boxes back up, and sending them on to their destination. I watched a DefCon talk about that about 5 years ago. 

 



[#] Sun Aug 08 2021 19:22:23 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-08-06 19:22 from Nurb432
Oh, and also 'scan users encrypted messages'.

"Its for the children"

 

wtf wtf wtf


I had heard of the picture scanning. Apparently they want to use some hash based system, in which they hash your images (or paramters of your images) and send the hashes to Apple, to be compared against a database of known blacklisted pictures.

What is new to me is message scanning.

Anybody using Apple products deserves what they get really.

[#] Tue Aug 24 2021 09:06:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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A new Mac Mini is landing, now with their new M1X processor.  Although I'm not a Mac OS fan I'm fascinated by the transition to ARM.  It should be really interesting.



[#] Tue Aug 24 2021 17:29:04 EDT from Nurb432

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You have no idea how torn i am about all this.

I love ARM, always have, even back in Acorn days, but i hate Apple. ( tho i didnt back when Woz was still around )

Tue Aug 24 2021 09:06:53 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

A new Mac Mini is landing, now with their new M1X processor.  Although I'm not a Mac OS fan I'm fascinated by the transition to ARM.  It should be really interesting.



 



[#] Wed Aug 25 2021 19:00:08 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Heh. When did you add the picture of Jobs with a pitcher of KoolAid? 

 



[#] Thu Aug 26 2021 11:42:02 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-08-24 17:29 from Nurb432
You have no idea how torn i am about all this.

I love ARM, always have, even back in Acorn days, but i hate Apple. (
tho i didnt back when Woz was still around )

I have no doubts. If the choice is between loving something Apple makes and hating Apple, I will stay with hate. Hate is the most powerful force in the whole Universe. There is nothing you cannot acomplish with enough hate. So go hate Apple.

[#] Thu Aug 26 2021 16:25:56 EDT from Nurb432

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Raw Hate keeps you warm at night and focused. But you do eventually burn out.

 

( no, not going to explain that one )



[#] Thu Aug 26 2021 16:35:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I've always wanted to get a really nice Mac and run Linux on it -- not in a VM but on the bare metal -- just to make people's heads explode. There was a time when the hardware on offer was worth it, but now they've made it so unserviceable that it would be a waste of money.

I *almost* did that 15 years ago when I walked into a CompUSA going-out-of-business sale with money to burn. But then I fell in love with a Toshiba that had the most beautiful screen of any laptop I've ever owned. I should have turned that machine into a standalone monitor.

[#] Thu Aug 26 2021 16:52:45 EDT from Nurb432

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I do it at work, no one bats an eye ..  Once in a while im asked how well it runs, but no one seems surprised or care. 



[#] Fri Aug 27 2021 11:12:26 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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At first people cared. Now there are so many people running Linux *and* Windows on Apple bare metal - nobody GAF. 

I mean - I think most people think it simply shows how ridiculous the cult of Apple is - that people want to show off that badge so badly they'll run a Mac even when Mac OS isn't what they want. 


I also think that once Mac gave up on that little glowing Apple on the back of the case - a lot of this fell off altogether. As a matter of fact, I can't recall seeing a single Mac out at the gates or in the Admiral's Club on my last flights. 

For a while - it was "All the business pros pulling out their Lenovo Thinkpads, all the artsty, liberal, boutique coffee drinking consumers pulling out their Macs," at airport gates. 

To be fair, I didn't really notice any Thinkpads either. 


It is all just tribal marking. 

 



[#] Sun Sep 05 2021 21:17:19 EDT from Nurb432

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So apple is hiring RISC-V developers.

I suspect another architecture change is coming in the next decade.  Aside from the current turmoil the ARM world which i do agree is cause for concern, this would give them 100% control of their ISA, with no licenses or restrictions. They could make it 100% proprietary, and no one could legally code for an apple device again, unless they pay a fee. Total lock-in. Their wet dream.

And if you reverse engineer, they DMCA you and sue you. 

The exact thing that makes me concerned about RISC-V. Complete fracture of the market where everyone has their own proprietary and non-compatible device.

 

( related i also see that companies are asking Intel for custom x86 ISAs.. so that side of the house may be heading that way too.  total chaos )



[#] Mon Sep 06 2021 12:17:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Apple may be able to pull that off ... at least for a little while ... but for the rest of the world, I think that genie would be hard to put back into the bottle.

It is interesting to see that Apple has established a culture where people know that they will change their architecture from time to time, and you'd better keep up with it.  There is probably no one else in the industry who is capable of pulling that off.  Apple can do it as long as their user base continues to eagerly consume whatever they put out.  How long will that continue?  Probably for quite some time, but certainly not forever.

Apple and Google might like that idea, but Amazon and Microsoft aren't going to stand for it.  The more people who are writing software, the more revenue they have for their cloud businesses.  And the Chinese aren't going to stand for it either.



[#] Mon Sep 06 2021 12:43:35 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I buy current Apples to make it easier for me to support classic Apples. But MODERN Apples don't really offer me anything I can't get on any other platform - so they don't get a *hook* into me like their classic platforms.

So at this point - there is no need, or really desire. When I built this MacBook Pro i7 for about $250 - I was concerned that it has a known Radeon flaw that eventually cooks it if you use it for anything graphics intensive. I'd like to run a non-hacked version of Mojave, sort of. But that is just because the time-changing background is cool AF. Otherwise, it is not really different than High Sierra - and honestly, that is not really that different than what I have on my G4 Quicksilver - Leopard, I think? At any rate - they mostly exist so that I can move classic OS 9 and prior apps to my Quadra 8500 and my V4 running Shapeshifter. 

This architecture change was the end of the line for Apple for me. In the future, FPGA Mac Classics, emulation of PPC Macs - and nursing Intel Macs will be my future. They don't have any actual "think different" or "magical and revolutionary" going on anymore.

And if *I* feel that way - there are at *least* tens of thousands of people like me who feel the same way. Maybe more. And that is the first little wave - especially if some of those people are high profile Mac evangelists. If we start seeing high profile, "Why I quit Mac and I'll never go back," articles that start hitting -

I still maintain this is a more dangerous architecture migration than they've attempted in the past. I'm not sure Steve Jobs would take this path - at least, the way Apple is executing it.


But their faith in the cult is strong, and that faith may not be misplaced.

 

 

Mon Sep 06 2021 12:17:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Apple may be able to pull that off ... at least for a little while ... but for the rest of the world, I think that genie would be hard to put back into the bottle.

It is interesting to see that Apple has established a culture where people know that they will change their architecture from time to time, and you'd better keep up with it.  There is probably no one else in the industry who is capable of pulling that off.  Apple can do it as long as their user base continues to eagerly consume whatever they put out.  How long will that continue?  Probably for quite some time, but certainly not forever.

Apple and Google might like that idea, but Amazon and Microsoft aren't going to stand for it.  The more people who are writing software, the more revenue they have for their cloud businesses.  And the Chinese aren't going to stand for it either.



 



[#] Mon Sep 06 2021 13:00:18 EDT from Nurb432

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He was not afraid to orphan his entire product line when it was needed. He did it 2x .. One time even going to a technologically inferior architecture ( from PPC to x86 )

Cant say how he would orchestrate this, but i do have a feeling he would, as its time to get away from X86, for several reasons. Control over the ISA just being one. While its not a free for-all like RISC-V would be, they did get a lot of lee-way with the license they got from ARM holdings.  And a lot of people in the industry do feel x86 is reaching its limits..  Better to be ahead of the curve, than behind, even if its painful..

 Mon Sep 06 2021 12:43:35 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions


I still maintain this is a more dangerous architecture migration than they've attempted in the past. I'm not sure Steve Jobs would take this path - at least, the way Apple is executing it.

 

 



[#] Tue Sep 07 2021 13:08:05 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The previous ISA changes had a lot to do with supply chain issues, perceived or actual, on Apple's part. x86 is available from at least two vendors. ARM brought it in-house, which to me sounds more like hubris than pragmatism.
It's not like there's a shortage of x86 supply, and for each individual submodel they could have been playing Intel and AMD off against each other.

Apple claimed that they were the #1 reporter of "defects" of Intel's design.


Again though, it doesn't really matter, because Apple knows it has enough customer loyalty to force another transition.

[#] Tue Sep 07 2021 15:27:52 EDT from LoanShark

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two vendors. ARM brought it in-house, which to me sounds more like
hubris than pragmatism.

Maybe not; Apple has been building ARM chips for years in the iPhone and iPad products, so they know what they're doing by now.

M1 is probably outperforming Rocket Lake on some metrics.

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