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[#] Thu Jan 02 2025 16:17:26 UTC from fandarel

Subject: Time Capsule

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Wonder if its worth keeping around as a wireless NAS.   From
what i remember it was a real PITA To get working as it required

Sounds like one of apple's time capsule things. Network storage + wifi access point + router. I had one as well. Best it did was 802.11g i think. Ran okay for about 5 years and then became unreliable. Wife started complaining about "the internet going out". Replaced it with some Netgear junk and she's been happy since.

I found the unit a couple weeks ago. Pried the 1TB disk out of it and threw the rest away. Recommend you do the same. It needs Apple's "Airport Utility" to configure it, so unless you've got a Mac around still, it's junk.

[#] Thu Jan 02 2025 18:26:39 UTC from Nurb432

Subject: Re: Time Capsule

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Ya after i looked closer it was a time machine.  Was.  its now in pieces in the garbage. 

Why?  Well it did have 5G WiFi ( ahead of its time really considering its age ) but it didn't want to come to life correctly, and as i futzed with it i remembered how much trouble i had unless i used an OSX device to make it go..   So i broke it open, pulled the drive out to destroy, and its now in the trash.



[#] Fri Jan 03 2025 23:19:39 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Sounds like one of apple's time capsule things. Network storage +
wifi access point + router. I had one as well. Best it did was

I've heard of Time Machine, but not Time Capsule. Would I be correct in guessing that it's just Time Machine delivered as a sort of NAS appliance, with the intent that it will collect snapshots until it runs out of space/time/life?

That sounds like it was destined to eventually either fail or become obsolete long before one would want it to. On the other hand, I wouldn't trust a clown service for long term reliability either. "If you want something done right..."

[#] Sat Jan 04 2025 18:40:46 UTC from Nurb432

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I think apple does stuff like this to confuse people. I think the time capsule was just new and re-branded time machines.   It also came in a version with out the drive. So i guess it was 'just' an airport,but had all the same stuff inside as the one with, just no drive, as far as i remember, again, its been perhaps 15 years now.  I was given one of the drive-less versions for free, and was going to put a drive in. Decided to toss it as it was even less friendly to non-osx people and by that point i had moved away from Apple anyway. They pissed me off one last time and i was over it ( phone related ). I even gave away my G5 wind-machine tower, as while it was running Linux and of course i loved powerPC chips, i could see the handwriting on the wall, the garden was being built and i refused to be trapped inside.

 

 



[#] Fri Jan 17 2025 16:11:27 UTC from Nurb432

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Details not too important, but one of our departments is ONLY apple..  New staff, perhaps 60 people and they refused windows. ( and have the authority to get what they want even if its not our standard of supportable by us )

Day one, something isn't working. On a call with them, asked for them to share their screen, cant manage to share in teams.. And from what i can tell the internal camera wont work either, as it turns out she was using an external USB camera.. flipped it around to show the screen like its 2005...   Running safari on the app in question. "Safari isn't supported by the vendor, can you try chrome" "its not installed, but ill see if i can be done"

In the meantime, decided to dig out my own mac book i turned into a Chromebook . Its old. So it only would recover to X version, perhaps 4 behind current, not like its a PPC or something.  Figured it would at least let me upgrade safari. No.   So before i blew it away, thought id put on teams to see how sharing is different.    Nope not in the store.   Ok, try web to get to MS to download it..  internet is blocked unless i bypass..  which i did, then teams wont install " too old machine, upgrade, or F-off, serf" 

 

WTF Apple. You SUCK.

 



[#] Fri Feb 21 2025 23:50:36 UTC from Nurb432

Subject: One point for them.

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Not an Apple fan now, as we all know, but I must give credit when its due.  They didn't roll over like so many would have..

 

"A secret UK order demanding that Apple backdoor its iCloud encryption appears to have prompted the company to pull Advanced Data Protection in the region."



[#] Thu Jun 12 2025 00:23:47 UTC from Nurb432

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Intel apple product support.   end of line.



[#] Thu Jun 12 2025 01:51:42 UTC from SamuraiCrow

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Thu Jun 12 2025 00:23:47 UTC from Nurb432

Intel apple product support.   end of line.

I have an old Core2 Duo Mac Mini and have Debian installed on it somewhere. No MacOS anywhere on its hard drive.



[#] Thu Jun 12 2025 11:48:29 UTC from Nurb432

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Yes, i was speaking of MacOS, 3rd party is your own gig ( tho they do make it as hard as possible now to do that..  unlike back then ).  For many with the last gen intel, MacOS is still important to them and becomes a door stop here soon.  While i do agree a company cant support things forever, planned obsolescence ( and planned roadblocks ) should be a crime.

 

Thu Jun 12 2025 01:51:42 UTC from SamuraiCrow

 

Thu Jun 12 2025 00:23:47 UTC from Nurb432

Intel apple product support.   end of line.

I have an old Core2 Duo Mac Mini and have Debian installed on it somewhere. No MacOS anywhere on its hard drive.



 



[#] Tue Jun 17 2025 17:47:04 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Intel apple product support.   end of line.

To some extent I have to give them credit for ripping the bandage off instead of dragging forward decades of backwards compatibility forever. It can be considered an engineering win. Whether it's too soon, however, is another story.

It might have made sense to just take the final version of Mac OS for Intel and continue critical maintenance patches on that track for a while. That's the normal practice.

[#] Fri Jul 11 2025 18:52:13 UTC from Nurb432

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But when you sell the hardware, there is less incentive to do that. Need to keep that line moving.. sell.. more.. product...

Tue Jun 17 2025 17:47:04 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar
It might have made sense to just take the final version of Mac OS for Intel and continue critical maintenance patches on that track for a while. That's the normal practice.

 



[#] Mon Jul 28 2025 13:06:33 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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When the vendor stops patching the OS, you install Linux. (That's why every time M$ tries to get everyone to buy new machines, they end up changing their minds.)

[#] Mon Aug 04 2025 00:39:43 UTC from Nurb432

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In general that is true, but Apple loves their proprietary hardware and its often hard to get anything working properly.

Like the keyboard on this POS from the office.   A keyboard, requires proprietary drivers just to function at all.  wtf. 

Mon Jul 28 2025 13:06:33 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar
When the vendor stops patching the OS, you install Linux. (That's why every time M$ tries to get everyone to buy new machines, they end up changing their minds.)

 



[#] Sat Aug 16 2025 18:26:26 UTC from Nurb432

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Not real sure why but not yet turned in my shop macbook. its the last of the intel series.   I really only used it to run a windows vm so i could be 'on the network and compliant', and that is gone now ( windows 10. cant upgrade to 11. so it got kicked off earlier this summer ).  

And as mentioned a while ago, they ( office ) disabled ability to use Linux for AWS VDI Client ( why? f- if i know.. ).   But OSX is supported, so ...  reloaded it a month or so ago. Not a fan of OSX, but its better than windows, and i guess its nice to have WiFi/BT/sound again, without carrying around dongles.  ( and battery life is better than it was with Linux shoehorned onto it )

Got an OS update this week. after 5 reboots ( really Apple??? ) now it wont log me out ( does request my password.. just cant put in a new ID ). Its been converted to a single user machine..  how odd.



[#] Mon Oct 27 2025 12:23:17 UTC from Nurb432

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"Apple is considering bringing advertising to Apple Maps search beginning in 2026, according to the Power On newsletter from Mark Gurman. This is part of a larger effort for the company to bring more advertising to iOS."

 

Just wait until we all are forced to have AR contacts.  Ads will be everywhere we look.  Yet another scifi prediction, slowly coming true.



[#] Wed Dec 10 2025 13:51:07 UTC from Nurb432

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Ouch.  45 mins to upgrade a minor version on my office MacBook. and something like 10 reboots ( i lost track )

 

Really wish these folks ( MS too ) would get on the boat of 'caching' so you don't need to sit and twiddle your thumbs on an upgrade, especially a point release.          Sure, perhaps a forced reboot later that evening, but they dont need to take the thing down during the duration. 

 



[#] Tue Dec 23 2025 05:00:36 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Mac. You did this to yourself. 

I've got 4 right now, a Powerbook i7, an i5 iMac - a Q4, and a PPC 8500. 

And a buncha dead 68k Macs where the CPU is worth more than the entire machine, if I part if out to Amiga users. 

They're shit. I mean, as someone who understands *nix based systems - I get the "appeal". But if that was the hill I was going to die on - I'd rather do Solaris. Ok, that is exaggeration - but I'd absolutely do Debian or Ubuntu first. Apple literally makes it easier to run Linux or Windows on OLD Macs than OS X... which now they call 11 or later. 

Stupid. Get off Cupertino's *ick. 

Wed Dec 10 2025 13:51:07 UTC from Nurb432

 45 mins to upgrade a minor version on my office MacBook. 



[#] Tue Dec 23 2025 05:05:58 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Argue with me, and I'll start posting all of my operable, and non-operable Macs. 
Ask me why I have them if they're such shit? I dunno. Because I want to know how to do it all? I like the prestige of understanding Mac OS from classic to modern Apple Silicon? 

How many times have they gone, "This is a dead end," from 69k at Apple Silicon? And cut off EVERYONE before. And I can still move files from a Classic Mac Plus all the way to a modern OS X Mac - using emulation on my Vampire V4 FPGA Mac running Mac 68k emulation. So... I know the Mac ecosystem. And I get it - to get a 8088 PC file running on a modern x64 PC - I have to use emulation too... 64 bit PC is not really backwards compatible with the original ia86 architecture. But PC has still been basically the same architecture from 1982 until today, and Mac hasn't. They've quit and thrown in the towel 4 times in that period. Why do you stay loyal to them? I don't get THAT. 

 



[#] Tue Dec 23 2025 14:03:28 UTC from Nurb432

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For a long time they were a good option. Then slowly became the less bad option so a lot of us still went that route.  And for a while you had things like PPC, which was a good thing.

But as the walls of the garden that Jobs starting building on his return got higher and higher, they became just as bad as the other main-stream alternatives and suck just as much, and in some ways worse.

Tue Dec 23 2025 05:05:58 UTC from ParanoidDelusions


Ask me why I have them if they're such shit? 



 



[#] Wed Dec 24 2025 04:58:15 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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How many times have they gone, "This is a dead end," from 69k at
Apple Silicon? And cut off EVERYONE before. And I can still move
files from a Classic Mac Plus all the way to a modern OS X Mac -

Apple has made it clear at this point: your binaries won't last forever, and they *will* change the architecture again. Between the Rosetta subsystem and multi-architecture binaries, they've somehow kept most of their users on board through all of the transitions. I too am surprised at how loyal they are, but then again, I remain surprised that people put up with the crap Windows dishes out as well.

Full backwards compatibility comes at a price, but it can be done. A modern IBM zSeries mainframe can still run software written for a System/360 in 1964, unmodified.

By the way, you can still run an operating system written for the 8088 on a modern AMD-64 PC, because those chips can still boot up in real mode. Why, I don't know. Nobody wants to do that. And if you're booted into 32-bit protected mode, you can still run virtual 8086 mode programs in it. However, there is no virtual 8086 mode in 64-bit long mode. That's why you can't run MS-DOS or Windows 3.1 programs on 64-bit Windows.

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