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[#] Thu Aug 14 2014 04:45:54 UTC from vince-q

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This question is neither a trick nor sarcastic and certainly not intended to be offensive.

Is it permissable for a kosher-keeping Jew to eat turkey bacon?
I suspect 'yes' but absolutely need it confirmed before I commit a serious error.

[#] Thu Aug 14 2014 15:18:20 UTC from mo

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Tue Aug 12 2014 18:06:18 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored
Do the Irish like corned beef or just the American Irish?

Oh yes! Even English Irish. Irish call it 'champ', corned beef with mashed potato and butter. :P

My m8 (mate/friend :) ) reckons its worse than dog-food though, he never eaten corned beef. But then again i don't know one person here in England who wears-owns a bowler hat! :)

 



[#] Thu Aug 14 2014 15:49:54 UTC from fleeb

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Heh... and I think it was the English who popularized it, even here in the US. It was the working man's hat for a very long time, before it sorta morphed into an icon of being British.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2014 04:34:18 UTC from the8088er

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So my mother is going to Israel.
Her brother and his wife invited her to go with them on their trip in November and she agreed. Plane tickets purchased, passport application filed, etc. She has never been on a plane or out of the country in her life. They're going with a Christian-based guide service of sorts, I believe.

The first leg of her flight leaves the day before Thanksgiving in the US (which is I believe the worst air travel day of the entire year). Then they go to Washington, D.C. and then to Switzerland before finally arriving in Israel. If anyone has suggestions I can pass along to her, they would be well received.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2014 12:51:24 UTC from fleeb

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Is she prepared for the full body-cavity search?

[#] Sat Aug 16 2014 02:53:14 UTC from the8088er

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I will be sure to let her know to expect that, heh.

[#] Sat Aug 16 2014 18:18:37 UTC from LoanShark

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Is she expecting the Inquisition? There is an interview with every passenger...

[#] Sat Aug 16 2014 20:21:52 UTC from triLcat

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If she's going with a group, usually it's not too bad. 

Just 1. she has to pack her own bag and know exactly what's inside.

2. She should know where the bag is from the time it's packed until she gets to the airport.

3. Answer questions honestly. You have nothing to hide, so don't try to hide anything. The security isn't there to scrutinize you, they're there to protect you.

4. Cooperate. Seriously, they're there to protect you.

They usually give trouble to people who are traveling alone, people who have been to conflict zones in the past, people who seem very nervous (behavior profiling is the big thing), couples who are unmarried and traveling together, people who are carrying stuff for other people.

Otherwise, she should be ok.

btw, leaving Israel is probably the only place where you can fly out with liquids. Take a nice, big bottle of juice... no one cares. at all.

don't bother taking your shoes off either. They don't care.



[#] Sat Aug 16 2014 20:23:52 UTC from triLcat

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(the last two only refer to exiting Israel).

 



[#] Sat Aug 16 2014 22:04:52 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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It's great to hear that Israel has actual security instead of "security theater" like we do in the US.



[#] Sun Aug 17 2014 09:40:23 UTC from triLcat

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They also run all the passport info through interpol.



[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 03:56:38 UTC from the8088er

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Thanks all! Any suggestions for once she's on the ground and out of the security checkpoint?

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 12:28:44 UTC from fleeb

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Don't yell, "I have a bomb." At least not until you've cleared the airport.

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 15:20:16 UTC from Ladyhawke

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Thu Aug 14 2014 12:45:54 AM EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored
This question is neither a trick nor sarcastic and certainly not intended to be offensive.

Is it permissable for a kosher-keeping Jew to eat turkey bacon?
I suspect 'yes' but absolutely need it confirmed before I commit a serious error.

So long as it's kosher turkey (or kosher turkey bacon, if ready made).

That said, I have always preferred the "beef-fry" we got from the butcher.  Pretty sure it's as horrible for a person as regular bacon, and it definitely does not taste exactly like bacon....but it is quite yummy.



[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 15:33:11 UTC from Ladyhawke

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Sun Aug 17 2014 11:56:38 PM EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored
Thanks all! Any suggestions for once she's on the ground and out of the security checkpoint?

My top pick is to try to get permission to be taken into the tunnels below the Western Wall.  There is something about that space that is difficult to articulate but is truly amazing.  

The Haddasah Hospitals are also pretty cool (and one of them has a bunch of Chagall originals that he painted for them).  And the Holocaust Memorial in Israel is like nothing else you have ever seen.  

On the less emotional side is the Jerusalem Old City Market area, the Dead Sea, Ceasarea (which is amazing) and a trip to the Galilee (probably the most beautiful place on earth), if it's safe.  Also, though I realize she's not Jewish, if she's into the beauty of old religious buildings and art, there are some drop-dead gorgeous ancient synagogues up in Tzfat.



[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 18:10:46 UTC from LoanShark

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They usually give trouble to people who are traveling alone, people

and people making connecting flights through, say, AUH...

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 19:50:03 UTC from vince-q

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While certainly not "ancient" by anything even remotely approaching the word when used in the same paragraph as "Israel" there are some absolutely incredible and amazingly beautiful synagogues in New York City and even a couple in Philadelphia.

My dad's favorite saying was "there are more Jews living in North East Philly than in Israel!"

And when he said it, back in the late 1950s, it may even have been true!! :-)

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 21:19:24 UTC from triLcat

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Crazy - I've lived here for so long, I forget how to think of tourism here...

I suspect LH is better at this than I am.

(I'm here 19 years)



[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 22:42:04 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Israel is often cited as being the same size as New Jersey.

Of course, if the jihadis started blowing up New Jersey with rockets it might be an improvement... :)

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 23:27:59 UTC from vince-q

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Of course, if the jihadis started blowing up New Jersey with rockets

it might be an improvement... :)



That sounds like the deal the NJ State Police (otherwise known as the NJ Statzpolizei) made with the 'Pineys'....

"We will stop raiding your bootlegging stills if you promise to stop burning down the woods!"

(1) this is a true story
(2) Norman Schwarzkopf Sr. was head of the NJ State Police when their current uniforms were designed/created by the same German firm that, a few years later, got the job of creating uniforms for the Gestapo - which ended up being the *same* design used for the NJ Stats-Polizei, hence the name...

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