Hi - yeah. checking in before I have to go into my shelter.. just got a pre-alert. poor miss 11 had to get out of the bath. 

I'm ok. It's been ... interesting.

Wed Mar 04 2026 05:37:04 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

as for "her"... I dunno. I feel like I've been around longer than she was - so if she goes away - it just didn't stick. That is just my observation. I know you like her - and I understand why - and I tried to make her feel like she should fight for her place here. I can't fix her.

In this case he's talking about trillcat, not Zoe. Trillcat lives in Israel.

Nurb, 1st off - STFU. You aren't "back". You never left. You were here before me, you'll be here long after I'm gone. This is a home base BBS for you. I'm a passing event - and this is your territory. 

as for "her"... I dunno. I feel like I've been around longer than she was - so if she goes away - it just didn't stick. That is just my observation. I know you like her - and I understand why - and I tried to make her feel like she should fight for her place here. I can't fix her. But you've got no excuse. You're certainly not going to let me drive you away from a place that is basically your digital "local". This is YOUR pub. I'm a guy from out of town who showed up and pushed my weight around. I'm never going to replace your place here. If this is our Cheers, your seat is always going to be yours. 

As far as WW3 - if Trump is the one who triggers WW3 - as the bombs are landing and the mushroom clouds are blossoming over major US cities - you can at least take solace in knowing I wa

No, im not 'back'.

Tho i doubt she sees this, i just wanted to send best wishes to Trl, as her area is under attack again.

I will enjoy watching the likes of Tucker Carlson, Mark Dice and similar wretches crash out over the coming days.

And he has buddies in The Federalist, a publication I regret endorsing.

J. D. Vance is an evil, anti-Israel, pro-terrorist scumbag.

We should not be making deals with our enemies, be they trade deals, arms control deals, nuclear deals or any other kind of deal. Nothing good ever comes of it.

Trump should have fired Steven Witkoff (or as I prefer to call him, Steven Wankoff) ages ago.

And see, I'm OK with American exceptionalism occasionally reminding the world that it DOES operate on OUR timeline - that everything else the world believes is indulgence we allow. 

Canada's plan if we invade is to fold in 2 days and hope insurgents fight back - but they MIGHT be ready to defect. Canada isn't SURE how that would go. 

That isn't just Canada - it is all of Europe. 

We don't have to bomb them ALL back to the 6th century. Just a couple will get the message across. Then we can all go back to pretending we're all equal. Because America is the Big Jock who is actually a nice guy to the loser pencil necked geeks. But we don't have to be. We COULD be the obnoxious jock who throws you into your locker. 

Sun Jan 18 2026 22:50:02 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Disagreement is fine.  The "jerk" part was unnecessary.

I'm ok with Iran and the rest of the sixth century theocracies being bombed back into the stone age.  I'm not ok with the US doing it.  Let the other hemisphere self destruct.  If you want to spend my tax money on bombs, I'd rather see them dropped on Medina Washington instead of Medina Saudi Arabia.

Disagreement is fine.  The "jerk" part was unnecessary.

I'm ok with Iran and the rest of the sixth century theocracies being bombed back into the stone age.  I'm not ok with the US doing it.  Let the other hemisphere self destruct.  If you want to spend my tax money on bombs, I'd rather see them dropped on Medina Washington instead of Medina Saudi Arabia.

You totally have a side. It is the wrong side. But - you're an American, I think - so you get to have it. Welcome to liberty. You're welcome. 

I don't like you - but I respect your ability to verbally and vocally disagree with me. That is what America is about. Maybe you should stop eroding that concept. Shrug? 

And i guess ill burn #2 here. Looks like the pool of responses for you is now dry. i do not expect a refill.

While you have not been around lately so you are working off a few of the last clearly mis-interpreted posts and not the entire story, you are totally wrong. I do NOT support things like ISIS and Taliban, or the concept of Palestine.  I do not support intervention into sovereign countries and randomly killing people, which is what my comment was about. 

Yes, propaganda happens, but they invaded and killed innocent people. Thus i don't support them. And now, i don't support our current war-driven imperialistic administration, for the same reason.   Nurb was right. Im glad i met him, i have slowly pivoted to his point of view.

And for the last fraking time i DO NOT HAVE A 'SIDE'.  Unless your want to call Independence a side. Judge each by their promises and subsequent  ( or past ) actions, not whatever random label they choose to scam you with. 

Oh, and related to another post, yes im stretching #2 here a bit but thought id get it in before i close it down :  I never said everyone here is a jerk/ass/elitist. Some here seem to be good people.  So no, you cant use that pathetic childlike excuse of 'its an eco chamber' or 'you see in others what you are'.

Fri Jan 16 2026 04:20:07 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

I want to understand when exactly "your side," decided to align with the Iranian government - and how you came to that conclusion. 

I suppose you already fell in line with Hamas and Palestine - so it shouldn't be surprising. 

How do you feel about the Taliban and ISIS? 

They're all just freedom fighters and the Western imperialists have pushed propaganda and lies to malign them all? 

Thu Jan 15 2026 14:26:18 UTC from ZoeGraystone

Of course you would say that.  jerk.

Thu Jan 15 2026 00:59:41 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

 

 

I want to understand when exactly "your side," decided to align with the Iranian government - and how you came to that conclusion. 

I suppose you already fell in line with Hamas and Palestine - so it shouldn't be surprising. 

How do you feel about the Taliban and ISIS? 

They're all just freedom fighters and the Western imperialists have pushed propaganda and lies to malign them all? 

Thu Jan 15 2026 14:26:18 UTC from ZoeGraystone

Of course you would say that.  jerk.

Thu Jan 15 2026 00:59:41 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

 

Of course you would say that.  jerk.

Thu Jan 15 2026 00:59:41 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

Bomb the Iranian regime already.

Bomb the Iranian regime already.

If true. That was a stupid move.

"Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov claimed Ukraine had attempted to attack President Vladimir Putin's residence with drones."

Most wars are when you get down to it. Tho, perhaps ill agree this has been worse than many since it was years in the making, of Zelenskyy laundering the worlds money and Russia not getting any of the cut.

( and i do agree, really they should have been re-annexed long long ago )

Sun Dec 28 2025 07:09:59 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

This is an organized crime mob war. 

Again. Agree. Ukraine and Russia are same/same, honestly. 

Here is what this really is about - and most people don't KNOW, because, how could you... 

This is an organized crime mob war. This is two European Organized Criminal Organizations having the same kind of crime war that the Italian mob used to have in New York or Chicago - just on a bigger scale. 

Putin is a crimelord, and so is Zelensky. Global criminal organizations fighting for dominance. 

Sun Dec 28 2025 00:47:05 UTC from Nurb432

"Attack on Kyiv shows 'Russia doesn't want peace', Zelensky says".  Actually, that is untrue. They are not fond of war either, they just want the land/resources, and since he wont give it up, war it is.

 

Not saying what Putin is wants is right or wrong, just that its not how Zelensky is stating it.

"Attack on Kyiv shows 'Russia doesn't want peace', Zelensky says".  Actually, that is untrue. They are not fond of war either, they just want the land/resources, and since he wont give it up, war it is.

Not saying what Putin is wants is right or wrong, just that its not how Zelensky is stating it.

"hey, if we don't call it an actual war and just 'military action against scumbags', Congress, and the law, can bugger off. Lets go kill people!"

I always tell death-cultists I'm Ok with massive depopulation to make the world a better place. They go first. If they're RIGHT, I promise to follow.

They NEVER take me up on this You Go First offer. They want depopulation that includes THEM in the society going forward... 

They don't want less people. They want less ME. 

Tue Dec 23 2025 15:01:21 UTC from Nurb432I alwatys

Im ok with 90% of the human population being removed, my concern is events like this wont actually do that and just cause more damage to the earth.

Tue Dec 23 2025 05:40:57 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

For some of us, we welcome the end of the world. 

 

Im ok with 90% of the human population being removed, my concern is events like this wont actually do that and just cause more damage to the earth.

Tue Dec 23 2025 05:40:57 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

For some of us, we welcome the end of the world. 

 

That is a matter of perspective. If you're an OPTIMIST, it might not end well. For some of us, we welcome the end of the world. 

Thu Dec 18 2025 14:39:17 UTC from Nurb432

China, after hearing about the $11B sale deal about to be passed by congress :  "immediately stop"

 

This may not end well.

China, after hearing about the $11B sale deal about to be passed by congress :  "immediately stop"

This may not end well.

Umm.. And just when i thought it could not get more ludicrous.. 

"Stephen Miller, a top aide to United States President Donald Trump, has suggested that Venezuela’s oil belongs to Washington, describing the nationalisation of the South American country’s petroleum industry as “theft”."

and... 

"“Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest Armada ever assembled in the History of South America,” Trump wrote.

“It will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before – Until such time as they return to the United States of America all of the Oil, Land, and other Assets that they previously stole from us.”

its too bad they cant defend themselves.  

Ben Shapiro has far more integrity than most pundits. He deserves more respect than that. And supporting allies is NOT throwing your own country under the bus. How is this so freaking hard for so many people to understand?

Sun Dec 07 2025 22:58:46 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

That having been said, I will add this: fuck Ben Shapiro.  He's allowed to be all-in on his religion and in his support of Israel, but he's "Israel First" while telling the world that he's America First.  Be whatever you want, but don't LIE about it.

That doesn't mean the Cohens who live in the cul-de-sac with me are "in on it," just because they celebrate Hanukah instead of Christmas.

I often lament with my Jewish friends that they aren't getting their share of the benefits from the Vast Zionist Conspiracy and that I, as an Italian-American, am not deriving any benefits from being a mafioso, as all Italians are.

I feel the same way about Islam and Muslims. I don't think every Muslim family is a radical Jihadist terrorist breeding ground. But there is absolutely a unified, organized, well funded network of Islamic Jihadists who are dangerous to society. 

I feel like people are way more comfortably with accepting that about Islam than about Judaism.

The difference is that Islam doctrinally commands its followers to pursue both Jihad and Taqiyya.  Compare to Judaism: there's nothing in the Torah that says "ye shall take over the entertainment and banking industries and secretly run the world."

That having been said, I will add this: fuck Ben Shapiro.  He's allowed to be all-in on his religion and in his support of Israel, but he's "Israel First" while telling the world that he's America First.  Be whatever you want, but don't LIE about it.

It is like being silenced for pointing out that blacks are 15% of the population, and a subminority of that demographic - Black Males between the ages of 11-35 - are responsible for 53% of the violent crime in America. That is a statistical truth - and the political Left will call you a racist if you say it out loud. 

Some say "it isn't all of them, but it's always them."  If I were part of such a demographic it wouldn't bother me to get (reasonably and politely) profiled, because profiling works.

No, not everything. I agree, most are dedicated to US citizens.   But i do think things like due process should be universal. 

Sun Dec 07 2025 02:37:06 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

 Again - this is a big lie - that EVERYONE deserves to be extended the philosophical concepts that we grant to our own citizens - or our concepts are somehow diminished. 

 

No. Every US citizen should get due process. We should not extend the benefits of being a US citizens to what are effectively enemy combatants trying to destabilize the United States. We should terminate them - engage and remove them. We shouldn't tie our hand behind our back and deal one handed with people who have NO regard for our concepts of justice, liberty, due process, constitutional rights. Again - this is a big lie - that EVERYONE deserves to be extended the philosophical concepts that we grant to our own citizens - or our concepts are somehow diminished. 

When dealing with threats from without - we should not extend our internal considerations to those enemies of our nation. 

We should destroy them, with prejudice, like vermin. 

They are bad people, we know it, they jeopardize our citizens, our national stability, our future as a Democratic Republic. 

Blow them out of the f'kin water. If you miss, circle back and shoot them again - so the next one thinks twice about it. 

Sat Dec 06 2025 17:59:30 UTC from Nurb432

I dont deny they may be bad people. Its just that everyone should get due process.  

Now, if they were there shooting missiles or something, sure, defend yourself.  But if not, you board, put them in custody, and they go to court.

I dont deny they may be bad people. Its just that everyone should get due process.  

Now, if they were there shooting missiles or something, sure, defend yourself.  But if not, you board, put them in custody, and they go to court.

Why can't we make it tit-for-tat? 

If you're in a boat with 3 high power engines pushing 700 HP doing whatever fuckin' noughts on the open ocean with a hull full of 55 gallon barrels and claiming you're on a "fishing" expedition. 

And if that fishing expedition gets to the border of Texas or Florida or wherever and a thousand US citizens will die from fentanyl poisoning... Most of them young people just beginning their lives - 

I think it is *inexcusable* to worry about the drug-runners fishermen - who lost their lives when our military blew their asses out of the water protecting US citizens. 


Maybe that is just me. Fuck these guys. They're dying instantaneously in massive fireballs - unlike their victims, slowly convulsing to death in the parking lot of a park on the lake in Chicago. 

If we dont do it for all, then no one really has it.

Tue Dec 02 2025 12:56:41 UTC from darknetuser

Removing Maduro from Earth is such a necessity I am willing to skip due process. That is just how needed it is.

Now, don't get me wrong i think drug dealers are bad people too, but they still deserve due process, and prison time if convicted, like everyone else. Not semi-anonymous executions, and excuses, just because we think 'they might be bad people carrying drugs".

"White House says second strike on vessel was legal and conducted in ‘self defense’ amid scrutiny"

If a couple of injured civilians hanging off the sides of a sinking boat from perhaps a mile away were a threat to military war craft, we got some problems.

"No, we are not trying to topple the government there, that is conspiracy theory and you should not be allowed to speak of this, its treasonous talk"

short time passes..  "leader of there government, we have our military ready on your shores, and you must leave the country, now"

And again, wont get into my feelings about the plans and only about the rules around them.....

How do we get the right to arbitrarily declare a 'closed air space' over another sovereign country, unless its in time of war?

And, other than a true emergency where they are attacking us, why do we get to militarily attack another sovereign nation, without going thru the 'process' and declaring actual war? I know we have done it before, and about to do it again, but should we not follow our own rules?.  

But you can point out that the vast majority of "white collar crime," is perpetuated by White Americans all day long, and no one will ever call you racist for speaking THAT truth. 

Oh - I understand THAT. The Jewish family on my block isn't part of some sinister "Jewish cabal." 
What you need to understand is that even if that is true, it doesn't mean there isn't a sinister Jewish  Zionist cabal that DOES fit the profile that the "anti-Semitic Right Wing," believes exist. 

Is that fair? Soros is evil - there are parts of the Israeli intelligence community that behave badly - there is a HUGE Jewish influence on global media and the narratives that they promote. 

That doesn't mean the Cohens who live in the cul-de-sac with me are "in on it," just because they celebrate Hanukah instead of Christmas. 

I feel the same way about Islam and Muslims. I don't think every Muslim family is a radical Jihadist terrorist breeding ground. But there is absolutely a unified, organized, well funded network of Islamic Jihadists who are dangerous to society. 

I feel like people are way more comfort

Not all black people are the problem - but the violent crime problem in America is predominantly a BLACK American thing. 

Both can be true. 

Thu Nov 27 2025 18:16:24 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

What you need to understand is that Jews are not a monolith.

What you need to understand is that Jews are not a monolith.

I mean, I agree - but I also occasionally have my moments of going, "The Jews as a community don't do things that are positive for the interests of American Democracy, in a lot of cases." 

And I think they shut that kind of thought down as fast as Mel Gibson calls a lady cop "Sugartits." 

Sat Nov 22 2025 17:49:14 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Funny thing about that: this room was originally called "Israel".

I'm not sure what part of the east coast you're talking about, but I'd consider the culture here a statistical outlier considering it's based in New York.  Since you asked, however, I'll answer only for myself: I'm a hard core devout Christian, and I am perfectly cool with my Jewish friends and neighbors.  On the world stage, I don't consider "palestine" to be legitimate and I think Israel should completely retake Gaza and the West Bank, handle all further resistance as terrorism, and make itself whole gain.

I also consider the United Nations to be a terrorist group.

Wont get into details, of judgement ( dont have time, and no need to anyway ).  But.. i guess Ukraine as a whole, not just its "leader", does not like the latest proposal  ( no surprise here ) and Trump supposedly say "agree by thanksgiving or you are on your own"

That would be the BEST move i feel.  We need to walk away from this money sink.

Again. If you're going to respond - identify... Gentile or Jew. Because this BBS seems very "east coast"... to my West Coast sensibilities. 

Funny thing about that: this room was originally called "Israel".

I'm not sure what part of the east coast you're talking about, but I'd consider the culture here a statistical outlier considering it's based in New York.  Since you asked, however, I'll answer only for myself: I'm a hard core devout Christian, and I am perfectly cool with my Jewish friends and neighbors.  On the world stage, I don't consider "palestine" to be legitimate and I think Israel should completely retake Gaza and the West Bank, handle all further resistance as terrorism, and make itself whole gain.

I also consider the United Nations to be a terrorist group.

The last time I saw you face-to-face, you said "I don't understand antisemitism", but you just demonstrated perfect understanding LOL.

(You are referring to the Islamic concept known as "hudna.")

Oh, I understand antisemitism from the point of view of their natural enemies.  That's pretty easy, it's obvious, and it's repulsive.

What I don't understand is the antisemitism of garden-variety bigots.  The ones who aren't islamofascists but instead flood message boards blaming everything on TEH J00Z!!1 

Tho you have missed most of those arguments during our less than friendly times around here.... I'm none of the above.

But i do support our allies, such as Israel. And it has zero to do with their belief structure or what i feel about that, its that they are an ally. 

Before I post any more political opinions on this site, can I get a show of hands on who considers themselves "jewish", "hebrew" or "zionist"? 

I mean... I'm still mostly on that side of the aisle compared to Islamic Jihadism. But... I also feel that criticism of the Jewish socialist and communist influences on media, journalism and culture - aren't invalid. 

But I feel like the minute you go, "There sure are a lot of outspoken Jews in Hollywood and Israel does some shifty military-political-espionage shit..." you get called a Nazi - and that isn't fair either. 

I get it... WW2 was terrible for Jews. But I don't think that means we can't EVER again go, "Wait a minute, Israel - WTF was that?" without getting called anti-Semitic. Can we? 

Again. If you're going to respond - identify... Gentile or Jew. Because this BBS seems very "east coast"... to my West Coast sensibilities. 

Sat Nov 22 2025 00:48:43 UTC from LoanShark

The last time I saw you face-to-face, you said "I don't understand antisemitism", but you just demonstrated perfect understanding LOL.

(You are referring to the Islamic concept known as "hudna.")

I have heard it both ways.  

But at this point its all a farce, and if they don't eradicate the enemy totally, it wont matter in another decade.

Sun Nov 09 2025 19:30:37 UTC from LoanShark

2025-10-24 12:14 from Nurb432
And the administration is now telling Israel "no, you will not
occupy the west bank"   WTF?

Aside from the strategic need, who the hell are we telling an
independent nation that they cant protect their people?

They were telling Israel not to formally annex portions, which is not the same thing as telling them not to occupy.

I dont keep track of much stuff going on in the world ( hell barely here now either since it pisses me off so much ) so i don't know the details. But i guess over in Sudan, some paramilitary force moved in and is basically killing everyone in sight.  its so bad, ( how bad is it? )  they can actually see the carnage from satellite images.

And the administration is now telling Israel "no, you will not occupy the west bank"   WTF?

Aside from the strategic need, who the hell are we telling an independent nation that they cant protect their people?

Well that didn't last long. Not that anyone rational and with 1/2 a brain cell expected it to.  Perhaps now we can obliterate Hamas? Please? ( and id like to do the same to rest like them.. )

And the King's response:  ( which does verify the story is real )

"Trump on Tuesday said that Hamas had taken out "a couple of gangs that were very bad," and killed a number of gang members. "That didn't bother me much, to be honest with you," he said."

So he's ok with people that have not been proven guilty of anything, to be beaten then shot in the public square. ( or have their boat blown up. )  He's coming for us at some point.

Tue Oct 14 2025 19:18:49 UTC from Nurb432

So looks like Hamas is publicly executing sympathisers.   And if you read about 1/2 down, Trump agreed to let them be the palestinian police, in effect.   wth?  And yes, i agree this just one story, it may not be 100%, but the video is there.. 

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/10/14/hamas-holds-public-executions-in-the-streets-hours-after-ceasefire-agreement-1592483/

So looks like Hamas is publicly executing sympathisers.   And if you read about 1/2 down, Trump agreed to let them be the palestinian police, in effect.   wth?  And yes, i agree this just one story, it may not be 100%, but the video is there.. 

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/10/14/hamas-holds-public-executions-in-the-streets-hours-after-ceasefire-agreement-1592483/

Consolation is i doubt im around long enough see their destruction.  But if something does not change, its coming.

Mon Oct 13 2025 17:06:09 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Arab/muslim culture sees negotiation as a show of weakness. Clearly the current "war" is problematic for them and the're just taking the opportunity to retrench and come back later. The philistines will not stop their terrorism until the jews are fully exterminated. THEY must be annihilated before they have a chance to do this. Israel must reunify ITS OWN land and not cede any of it to a terrorist state.

Oh, and hell yes a US President who ended eight different wars should get a Nobel Peace Prize.

Same reason many in most countries do the same.

A combination of systemic ignorance and being brainwashed, in effect.

Sun Oct 12 2025 20:49:12 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

I don't understand why so many Israelis are celebrating their defeat.

I don't understand why so many Israelis are celebrating their defeat.

Agreed.

( with both comments above..  its a sad day in reality )

Sun Oct 05 2025 19:44:12 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

I don't care what anyone says, Trump's proposed fetal stain of a deal is a victory for Hamas.

Not been watching news. So not 'new'

So it seems that Hamas did not lose.  They didn't win, but that they still exist means they didn't lose. They will be back. Stronger next time.

LoL

"Zelenskyy: If Trump gives us Tomahawks, we’ll lobby for Nobel Peace Prize"

I don't care what anyone says, Trump's proposed fetal stain of a deal is a victory for Hamas.

Trump backed himself and America into a corner by appealing to the isolationist "nO nEw WaRs" crowd.

He caved and sentenced Israel to destruction.

"Trump unveils 20-point plan to secure peace in Gaza, including granting some Hamas members 'amnesty'

Well, they are F-ed. If they lose our support for 3 years, there wont be an Isreal left by the time the next election comes around.

"“I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank,” he told reporters in the Oval Office while signing executive orders unrelated to foreign policy. “I will not allow it. It’s not going to happen.”

Still is. Always will be, if they remain independent. One of the most corrupt governments on this planet. ( ya, ours is worse, but they are still in the top 5 )

Let them burn. 

Thu Sep 25 2025 16:35:39 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Ukraine being used as a money laundering machine.

 

Selling arms to allies is fine.  When this all started though, we were observing Ukraine being used as a money laundering machine.

I also learned recently that my beloved Mikrotik has had a hard time getting their manufacturing done over the last few years because all of the high tech manufacturing capacity in northeastern europe is being used to manufacture drones for Ukraine.   I'd rather have routers :)

So Secretary Hegseth has summoned hundreds of US generals and admirals from all over the world to a meeting in Virginia.

Let us pray World War Three is not starting.

I was a Ukraine skeptic, but the events of this year have changed my perspective. Trump was willing to give Putin a far better outcome than he deserved in the name of peace, and Putin spat in his face. I see now what I should have seen a long time ago. I am now pro-Ukraine.

Now before anyone explodes that doesn't mean I support giving arms away for free (we can't afford it), although I do support and have always supported selling arms to allies.

lol. King is an idiot and does not know he is being played.   And i hope next time Putin aims for Kalifornia, and destroys it. It's a drain on our country. in many ways.

"Russia Fires Rockets Into U.S.-Controlled Airspace—Forcing Flights 300 Miles Off Course"

That is pretty much the only thing you are still right about.

Sun Sep 21 2025 15:15:43 UTC from Nurb432

There can be no 2 state solution. Only one solution: Eradication of the terrorists, and their followers/supporters.

"UK recognizes Palestinian statehood 108 years after Balfour Declaration"

“In the face of the growing horror in the Middle East, we are acting to keep alive the possibility of peace and of a two-state solution,”

I fully admit i dont know the ramification or how those rules work over there on the other side of the pond. Does that mean Israel is in effect also at war with the UK now, and NATO is going to come and help the terrorists? There can be no 2 state solution. Only one solution: Eradication of the terrorists, and their followers/supporters.

That there is funny. He thinks he has any value other than to launder money and serve as a distraction when needed.

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky demanded that China react to the latest Russian strikes on Kyiv, which he said had killed at least 14 people, three of them children, and wounded dozens."

And long those lines above, i guess the 'hold' on expansion of the holding facility in southern Florida has now been expanded to a full closure ruling.  ( 60 days ) On paper, its to protect the everglades and such. While im no longer there, i' of course totally support protecting/restoring it. Since they didn't ban building another somewhere else, i tend to lean towards it being legit with intent. But you never know.

But regardless of the true intent, that does leave the problem of what to do with the illegals.   

My idea of a solution should take care of both issues. Supports the restoration and prevents the need to build a new structure somewhere else and destroy that land:

• Have a court hearing ( speedy )

1. if its shown you are here legally, you are sent back home with an apology note you can give your employer of why you missed work, or didn't pay rent that month, etc. Perhaps a bit of compensation as we don't want to harm citizens. 
2. if its shown you are here illegally, you are ground up into food/fertilizer and sent to feed the 'glades. 

It would also save tax payer funds, as wood chippers are far cheaper than building new buildings. 

Would also serve as a hard deterrent " get caught,  we dont send you back to try again, we feed you to the gaters"

"To stop illegals coming across the Mexican border, we will paint the wall black"

No, im not joking. They really are going to do this..

Rather not see either, not our war, dont risk our people ( or finances ).. But with luck he doesn't back down on that decision. While air is not zero, ground troops have a much hither risk of harm.

"The U.S. will not send troops as part of security guarantees for Ukraine, but the administration could provide assistance in other ways, including air support, Trump told Fox News on Tuesday. White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt later said that air support is “an option and a possibility.” 

"if i'm elected, i will end this war the next day".  

Fast forward a few months, as the war drags on.

"Zelenskyy can end Russia war 'almost immediately' "

Of course it was just political noise to get elected, and they all do it, but its still sort of funny. 

"After a disastrous meeting with the Ukraine leader in London this afternoon, Trump immediately authorized Putin to use nuclear weapons to end the conflict once and for all, and ordered the immediate arrest of  Zelenskyy as he stormed out of the profanity laced, insult filled, conference"

( ok just kidding. but he is still saying he will refuse to give up any land to Russia "its unconstitutional".  Going to drag this money-sink on as long as he can. )

Regardless of who did what to start it, Zelenskyy  clearly encouraged it at the citizens expense ( death and destruction ), for the unbelievable amount of money to flow, and to distract from what was happening with Hunter. 

While i should not be surprised he's stringing along as its enriching some of his buddies, Trump really could stop it tomorrow like he claimed he would do " as of now, no more support from the US in any way". Next day it would be over.

Anti-Semites keep harping on about how Israel supposedly secretly plans on achieving this. Nonsense. This would only happen if I was reincarnated as an Israeli.

2099531133@Uncensored

wtf. This needs to be stopped. Now.

"Donald Trump is preparing to offer Vladimir Putin access to rare earth minerals to incentivise him to end the war in Ukraine.

The US president will arrive at the much-anticipated meeting with his Russian counterpart on Friday armed with a number of money-making opportunities for Putin.

They will include opening up Alaska’s natural resources to Moscow"

Right, what i was meaning was that Hamas, the weaker of the 2, did start it, but the excuses I have heard that it was 'just them' and not 'us Palestinians/etc' is where i was going.   They allowed infiltration, so they are just as responsible. 

Did not mean any disparagement against Israel.  Just poorly worded i guess.

Thu Aug 07 2025 20:43:10 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

Hamas is not more powerful than Israel.

Hamas is not more powerful than Israel.

Netanyahu is about to be ousted i think.  Perhaps forcefully, as a coup that has public support is in the works.  If that happens, the new leadership will back down from what is needed to be done to protect themselves, and in no time Israel and its people will be gone. 

While i agree what is happening is not pretty, bad things happen when your side starts a war with a more powerful adversary. And for those that say 'well they didn't start it, it was Hamas' or something similar: They allowed them to infiltrate their society. There are consequences for stupid.  ( and for those that say Israel started it, don't bother saying it.. you are an idiot )

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" Trump says he will send Patriot missile defense systems to Kyiv and EU will reimburse Washington for Patriot costs "

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LoL, More money laundering. That is all this 'war' is. Everything on this earth is a scam for the elite. This 'war' will drag out a decade... Just like other 'money making opportunities' around the world with all current the proxy 'wars'.

With luck Putin sends some stuff to Cuba and obliterates Mar-a-Lago just to piss the clown-in-chief off. ( and Mississippi too, if the local scumbag here is being honest about his relocation from Russia ) 

But if it happens, someone will have to send me an email or text. I think I'm over it. All of it, not just the stupid nonsense in DC but everything about the freaking worthless internet and all the crap on it. its a cesspool and mostly to blame for today's societal collapse. All the lies, propaganda, marketing, idiots, jerks, bla.  Time to quit my job (retire) and going off-line i think for good, other than a few things paying bills and watching weather radar when it storms or checking in with family once in a while "ya, i'm still breathing".  ( might even go back to writing checks, i'm seriously considering going up to the bank ordering a box tomorrow.. )

I doubt it will be like last time, where i reappear after a decade or 2..    So under that assumption -  Cya meat puppets. 

Hey who knows, perhaps covid v2 will do the job. Its being worked on...  Will all be academic soon then . lol

There is profit in war. Especially proxy wars. I'm sure his buddies are thrilled. In fact, i bet they told him to do it. "we need the cash due to your tariff war"

Just like there is profit in CCP computer hardware.

Fri Jul 11 2025 21:04:44 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

So Trump is going to send weapons to Ukraine. At this point I don't blame him; he tried to a peace deal and Russia spat in his face.

So Trump is going to send weapons to Ukraine. At this point I don't blame him; he tried to a peace deal and Russia spat in his face.

While i dont agree with doing that, to be fair it sounds like a lot of radical oppressive religions over the centuries..  ( and most governments, especially Communist ones )

Sat Jul 05 2025 22:31:20 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

"Death to the infidels"  is all one needs to know about them.

If history is any indication, when islamists take over a place, they immediately erase its history, artwork, language, anything that does not directly serve the new order. It is ... somewhat brutal.

I hear things have calmed down for our friends out east. I hope that continues, but i doubt it, the enemy will never change.

Ya.  But people seem to not realize this for some reason.  History provides evidence.

Fri Jun 27 2025 02:22:46 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

I guess this is what negotiations look like in the ME. I sure is an
expensive way to do it, though.

In the islamic world, negotiating at all is perceived as weakness.

"Death to the infidels"  is all one needs to know about them.

Well that was disappointing. But i guess not real surprising, a lot of hot air 'marketing' like always, but no real results of any lasting value.

Welcome to the club. 

Tue Jun 24 2025 19:21:56 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

So Trump just went out of his way to save the Iranian regime. I just burned my MAGA hat. I'm sick of his BS.

So Trump just went out of his way to save the Iranian regime. I just burned my MAGA hat. I'm sick of his BS.

TRUMP: 1

SAND NAZIS: 0

Well he just proved us both wrong.

Fri Jun 20 2025 18:35:19 UTC from ZoeGraystone

That is because Putin pushed back.  Trump always backs down when pushed. Weakling.

Watch your backs people.    Retaliation via sleeper cells is imminent. 

I don't know your personally, but i support your people, and i feel bad that you have to go thru all of this, yet again.  Best of luck to you and your family during this mess. 

Thu Jun 19 2025 10:47:50 UTC from triLcat

So hello from the middle east where ww3 is already happening. Today iran bombed a hospital; fortunately, there were only light injuries as patients had already been moved to shelters. Yesterday, I found out that at least half of the operating suites at one of our biggest hospitals are in a sheltered area. 

 

That is because Putin pushed back.  Trump always backs down when pushed. Weakling.

And now Trump is back to being weak on Iran.

*sigh*

So hello from the middle east where ww3 is already happening. Today iran bombed a hospital; fortunately, there were only light injuries as patients had already been moved to shelters. Yesterday, I found out that at least half of the operating suites at one of our biggest hospitals are in a sheltered area. 

I was there for a siren while my husband was having surgery (in the mouth, infection from an impacted wisdom tooth. He's recovering well) 

Times are completely crazy here. I actually fell asleep at a normal time last night, and was woken a short time later by sirens. My 17-year-old is feeling very fed up. The other kids are sort of enjoying being off of school. 

Miss 17 has one more exam and is supposed to be graduating next week. They can graduate even if they haven't finished the exam - there's a certificate for 12 years of schooling from the school, and a separate matriculation certificate that includes the exam grades which is from the country. Since her plan for next year is national service, not having grades doesn't mean much. She won't apply to colleges for at least 1 year, more likely 2 - if she applies at all - her current thought is that she wants to be a party planner, and I told her that I don't think it makes sense to do a ba for that. 

Israel doesn't have a liberal arts degree and I don't think you need a full business degree for party planning anyway - She can probably do a local course in starting a small business and maybe some online courses in party planning specifically. 

Anyway, the point is that she's in limbo - she's had a really rough year, mental-health wise, and I wish just something could be normal for her :(

Direct war involvement by the weekend?

Hey, perhaps they will reinstate the draft, i have a couple of "people" ( i hate to call them that, they are really sub-humans ) id like them to come collect and drop off out there.

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. military is deploying more fighter aircraft to the Middle East and extending the deployment of other warplanes, bolstering U.S. military forces in the region as the war between Israel and Iran rages, three U.S. officials said.

One of the officials said the deployments include F-16, F-22 and F-35 fighter aircraft"

Forget I said that. It aged horribly.

Sun Jun 15 2025 14:55:18 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

Why is Trump being so weak on Iran?

If that is true, then i will change my stance to just eradicating the government.. My understanding was there was mostly support for it and what it stands for. But i dont live there, so it may be biased info i have.

Tue Jun 17 2025 17:43:22 UTC from darknetuser

That paragraph makes me kind of sad because let's just say most iranians I know oppose the current regime.

And of course he now claims they are not related.  Ya, right. Be honest for a change, or just 'no comment at this time'.  And go blow up Tehran while you are at it.  We can wipe them off the planet and not risk any of our people, and the  world would be a better place for it.  Do it. Do it now.

"President leaves G7 conference early to return to Washington and states that Iran needs to immediately evacuate Tehran. "    Something is cooking.

I doubt hes capable of doing anything, if he woke up from his nap.

Mon Jun 16 2025 22:07:23 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

So when does a sleeper cell here do something and drag us into
the Israel / Iran conflict?  Any bets?

A sleeper cell? You mean Lindsey Graham?

Slowly rising, but i agree, most people hit the shelters in time to be 'safe' but the buildings and industry.. will be hit hard.

Sun Jun 15 2025 03:11:24 UTC from SamuraiCrow

The death toll is currently at 2 but property damage is likely worse.

Why is Trump being so weak on Iran?

Looks like the world has caught on fire while  i was away from home, and barely on line. 

So when does a sleeper cell here do something and drag us into the Israel / Iran conflict?  Any bets?

Fri Jun 13 2025 21:15:00 UTC from Nurb432

Looks like Tel Aviv got hit pretty hard.

The death toll is currently at 2 but property damage is likely worse.

Looks like Tel Aviv got hit pretty hard.

Well, Iran is shooting missiles at Israel now.  We will see if Trump will back up his words. ( i doubt it as he likes to wave the stick but backs down when he gets pushed back )

I do hope our friend from there is ok. 

So i guess overnight ( for us anyway ) Israel attacked Iran.  And Trump said they better not retaliate.

I guess that means its officially started?  Or is this just 'yet another middle-east skirmish'? ( i know.. its all opinions at this point. But to me this 'feels' like its more )

Wed Jun 11 2025 02:27:47 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

What, a front attack against the US? They know better than to do that. Let ukraine get destroyed, it's not our problem.

Ukraine will get destroyed and I agree that it is not our problem.

Fri Jun 06 2025 11:47:35 UTC from ZoeGraystone

And another mostly useless power projection from Putin. Seems that all these 2 want to do is toss rocks at each other.  

How long is this going to go on until someone stands up and ends it?

Putin has alluded in the past to having a conventional weapon as powerful as a nuke. To retaliate against that with nukes would require the breakage of nuclear non-proliferation treaties, making Putin some sort of good-guy and us the scum of the Earth.

And another mostly useless power projection from Putin. Seems that all these 2 want to do is toss rocks at each other.  

How long is this going to go on until someone stands up and ends it?

Negotiating with Iran is a fool's errand. If we are actually going to destroy its nuclear facilities then we should do it now.

New drone offensive from Ukraine..   Attacked some air bases or something.  They are going to push Putin too far, and will regret it. Like him or not, agree with him or not, he does stand for his country and will only take so much.

Follow the money. Then you will have your answers. 

Wed May 28 2025 18:35:22 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

Why is Trump wasting so much time trying to make a deal with Iran? How does he not understand it is an absolute fool's errand?

Why is Trump wasting so much time trying to make a deal with Iran? How does he not understand it is an absolute fool's errand?

I see Putin has stepped things up.

Time for mushrooms?  I hope so.  

Thu May 22 2025 07:30:31 PM UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

Some pro-Hamas/"Palestine" nutjob just shot and killed an Israeli diplomat in Washington, D.C.

Thank you for putting "palestine" in quotes.

They're not even real Palestinians.  They're Arabs.

Not at all unexpected. Welcome terrorists across the border, and feed the hatred in the locals, you get terrorist actions.

Some pro-Hamas/"Palestine" nutjob just shot and killed an Israeli diplomat in Washington, D.C.

Just what we needed.

Darn. I wanted mushrooms!

Wed May 14 2025 14:56:59 UTC from darknetuser

They say the India-Pakistan conflict has been pacified, for now...

All the Israeli media reports of a rift between Trump and Netanyahu are based solely on hearsay. Ambassador Huckabee, the press secretary and even Steve Wankoff have denied this. Clearly Israel is plagued by fake news just like the USA.

I am not a fan of Steve Wankoff.

While i totally support this action, i dont think its going to bring anyone home alive at this point.  And i don't think relocation is going to 'fix' the problem, when you have terrorists embedded in the general population like has happened there. its a postponement of hostilities. And sorry for their luck ( the Palestinians ) but should not have allowed them to be 'overtaken' by Hamas. It was a choice.

But, having a large buffer zone, should help tremendously in the future, IF its monitored.

"Israel's security cabinet has approved a plan to expand its military offensive against Hamas which includes the "capture" of Gaza and the holding of its territory, according to an Israeli official.
It is also said to include moving the 2.1 million Palestinians in Gaza towards the south, which could worsen the humanitarian crisis.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called it a "good plan" because it would achieve the goals of defeating Hamas and returning its remaining hostages, the official said.

Houthis attack an airport in Israel.  Halts international flights for a few days.  

That wont go well for them.  Perhaps it will be the final straw to take the proper action against them and stop wasting money by virtually toying with them. ( as in - total eradication of the region they are in )

I had my concerns about Marco Rubio but so far I think he's doing an excellent job as Secretary of State.

Sure, just that looks like we are going to be adding another 'battle' to the list.

Sat Apr 26 2025 23:11:09 UTC from SamuraiCrow

 

Thu Apr 24 2025 21:39:57 UTC from ZoeGraystone

Pakistan and India next ? Looks pretty bad over there.

Remember: there's more to peace than the mere absence of war and conflict. North Korea is still at ceasefire with South Korea even though that war never ended.

Thu Apr 24 2025 21:39:57 UTC from ZoeGraystone

Pakistan and India next ? Looks pretty bad over there.

Remember: there's more to peace than the mere absence of war and conflict. North Korea is still at ceasefire with South Korea even though that war never ended.

Pakistan and India next ? Looks pretty bad over there.

So that means huge chunks of the UK cant sell here in the US anymore? While i think most sea based supplies were cut off, many do still get it via pipeline. And what about china? Last i heard, they have stepped up their purchases of Russian oil since the Ukraine war started. Forgetting the damage tarries are starting to happen, you cut off china 100%, our economy goes into the tank.

"“If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia’s fault — which it might not be — but if I think it was Russia’s fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on oil, on all oil coming out of Russia,” the American president said.

“That would be that if you buy oil from Russia, you can’t do business in the United States. There will be a 25 percent tariff on all oil, a 25- to 50-point tariff on all oil,” Trump said.

well that explains the build up:

"WASHINGTON, March 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump threatened Iran on Sunday with bombing and secondary tariffs if Tehran did not come to an agreement with Washington over its nuclear program."

Looks like we are starting to stage stealth bombers and refueling assets in strategic locations for attacking Iran. And with basically no word from the government about it. 

May just be power projection, a but never know.. something might be coming.

Clearly, you are new here. LOL

And it wouldn't really be paving, it would be clearing. There is not enough in the nuclear arsenal to actually 'glass parking lot' much land, and that is more of a marketing term than anything else.  However the blast radius in cities, cloud fallout and following prolonged 'winter' would be effective for the objective.

Mon Mar 24 2025 07:20:07 UTC from PanaSonic

 

Pave the earth ... what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

Sun Mar 16 2025 20:52:21 UTC from Nurb432

So we bomb the Houthis again  " stop bombing boats or we will bury you, here is a sample *boom* "         Their response: "now we are going to target your boats". ( like they didn't before.. )  We have more firepower than Iran can ever dream to give them.. not a smart response. 

With luck it pisses off Iran enough to take action, then we can parking lot the entire area and be done with it. No practical loss at all, other than some $ on the equipment used.

 

 

I really wish i could push the button myself. Solve a lot of problems. The great reboot is long overdue.

Pave the earth ... what the fuck is wrong with you?

2099512786@Uncensored

So we bomb the Houthis again  " stop bombing boats or we will bury you, here is a sample *boom* "         Their response: "now we are going to target your boats". ( like they didn't before.. )  We have more firepower than Iran can ever dream to give them.. not a smart response. 

With luck it pisses off Iran enough to take action, then we can parking lot the entire area and be done with it. No practical loss at all, other than some $ on the equipment used.

I really wish i could push the button myself. Solve a lot of problems. The great reboot is long overdue.

So i read that both Zel and Putin wont agree to the land requirements in the truce.  So back to plan A, Putin eradicates Ukraine.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/european-union-spent-more-russian-fossil-fuels-than-ukraine-aid-2024

European Union spent more on Russian fossil fuels than Ukraine aid in 2024

The European Union is so full of it.

Rumor of cutting star-link off from Ukraine if they don't play ball with the current admin on mineral rights and accepting the soon to be bartered end of (their) war.

Same old boys club, just different color paint.

And now, lasers. 

Wed Feb 19 2025 21:27:22 UTC from SamuraiCrow

 

Not only that, but the best drones come from China, the same place the drug cartels import fentanyl from. Convenient.

Tue Feb 04 2025 15:00:11 UTC from Nurb432

Mexican cartels are retaliating against the new border control by attacking agents on patrol with exploding drones. 

 

Super.

Not only that, but the best drones come from China, the same place the drug cartels import fentanyl from. Convenient.

Well at least there's no doubt who the bad guys are.  Claudia Sheinbaum is pushing back against the United States' designation of the cartels as a terrorist organization, by threatening to "reciprocate" - whatever that means.  If they're openly attacking now, then I say, fuck around and find out.

Mexican cartels are retaliating against the new border control by attacking agents on patrol with exploding drones. 

Super.

"airstrikes on ISIS leaders in Somalia"

While i support that action, consider Biden let in ISIS terrorists, i wonder what the blow back is going to be on our soil. 

So i guess drones in the Ukraine war is a thing ( no news there ). So now radio blocking is a thing, so the  drones mostly just fall out of the sky ( not really news there either ).  The solution? No, not fancy onboard AI that turns off the radio and continues on.. but instead tie a fiber to it and drive it like its a 1970s toy plane.  

Of course eventually, we don't self destruct first, we get quantum communications, which i doubt can be blocked.   They are getting closer every day with POC's

I wouldn't worry too much about nuclear war.  Right now is actually the safest possible time.  Here in the US, the outgoing leadership (which uses Ukraine as a money laundering machine) is doing their best to poison pill the incoming administration -- and Putin knows it.   A nuclear attack does not serve the needs of anyone involved in the Russia/Ukraine conflict or their puppeteers.

I do think the arabs in Gaza would nuke Israel if they had the chance, and they wouldn't care about collateral damage.  Because they're stupid.  If they were smart they would be citizens of Israel.  But they don't have nuclear weapons and they're not about to get them.  That's the real reason we keep bitch slapping Iran -- because if Iran got a nuclear weapon they would let the arabs in Gaza do their dirty work.

lol.  "Syrian army experiencing detonation of handheld radio devices"

i wonder how many of these things are really out there..  I also wonder if i need to tear mine apart..

I guess Israel just lost.  They gave in before the job was done.

They are toast.  

Rumor.. only from one or 2 news outlets:  "White house discussing with Ukraine on giving them nuclear warheads to deter Russia"

wtf

Or medium range..  now its up for debate, but either sends the same message.  

Thu Nov 21 2024 12:08:59 UTC from Nurb432

Next on the posturing table.. Russia may have sent an ICBM over to Ukraine.  Just to prove they can obliterate them if they want.

Next on the posturing table.. Russia may have sent an ICBM over to Ukraine.  Just to prove they can obliterate them if they want.

And next....

"US President Joe Biden has agreed to give Ukraine anti-personnel land mines, a US defence official told the BBC,"

Seems we have just closed our embassy in Kyiv.     I wonder if our leaders know something we don't.

I agree hes not stupid. He seems to be one of the smarter ones out there these days..  However, he may just get pissed off enough one day to say "f-it, im sick of this nonsense with the EU, and the US is incompetent anyway so we will still win this".

He also may become ill, or have a coup where he takes it seriously...  "fine, screw this. im gone, so we all go"

Tho, backing away from the obliteration mandate for either the power aspect, or just being pissed off,  ya, re-construction = more funneling of cash..  Something governments LOVE, and incentive for even bigger war.

Wed Nov 20 2024 13:39:42 UTC from darknetuser Subject: Biden and doomsday

I don't think Putin is stupid. He is not going to risk a big direct war if he thinks peace negotiations will be achieved with the new administration. What the long range missile nonsense means, however, is that peace conditions will be made harsher for the NATO coallition.

"Sure, in order to agree to a peace treaty, the US has to pay for the reconstruction of all the stuff they blew away with their missiles"

And, they used some yesterday. And Russia is pissed and directly blaming us ( honestly, as they should.. ).  "we have reduced our requirements for a first strike"

May only be posturing, but it may still not end well. Get too close, one oops.. its over. Some of us do think the goal now is to get us right to the edge, so it breaks out just after Trump takes office, and gets blamed.   That and the D's are so pissed they lost they will just go ahead and burn it down. "if we cant have it, no one will"

This may not go well.     "President Joe Biden officially authorized Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range missiles Sunday for strikes inside Russia."

I guess he has ~ 2 months left to either start WWIII or make it so its inevitable early in Trump's term, so he gets blamed.

Idiot gangs in Haiti shooting at planes.  Now no more commercial flights for at least a month.

Not that i support gangland, but that is counter productive, even for them.

So there is a movement apparently, of Harris supporters to start killing trump supporting men by poising them.  "your body my choice" is their motto. Code name "MATGA" ( Make Aqua Tofana Great Again ).  And calls to start getting jobs at places like Starbucks to spread the poison, as well at home against spouses. 

it almost seems like it, but I don't believe its actually parody.. 

if true, good for them.

I do have a few friends over there, they are all pissed. 

Wed Nov 06 2024 08:35:42 UTC from darknetuser Subject: Spanish revolution

I have heard there is a video somewhere of the serfs chasing the prime minister with sticks and stones. I hope that is true.

Revolution brewing?  Or will the serfs just be stamped down with force, like usual?

"Spanish flood outrage exposes political divide, distrust of ruling class

With hundreds dead and Spaniards turning on their leaders, parallels are being drawn with the 2004 Madrid train bombings."

I believe we did, for a short time period, and not a permanent thing. until 2025 or 2026 rings a bell without looking.

But just because we pulled it, does not mean the other socialist countries did. Plenty of cash flow even without us.

Fri Nov 01 2024 10:24:58 EDT from LoanShark

Didn't the US freeze funding to UNRWA anyway (genuine question--I haven't been following that situation as closely as I should)

Good for the Israelis.

"The legislation includes two complementary bills that were passed one after the other: one from the coalition, which received overwhelming support with 92 votes in favor and only 10 against, and another from the opposition, which also received a significant majority of 87 votes. Both bills seek to terminate an agreement established in 1967 that allowed UNRWA to operate in Israel and to sever all relations between UNRWA and the Jewish state, including diplomatic visas granted to UNRWA workers and other services provided by the state of Israel."

And so freaking what?  ( oh ya, they support terrorist organizations.. )

"This decision comes despite significant objections from the Biden-Harris administration, which has expressed deep concern that the legislation could force UNRWA to cease all operations in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem"

Next time they should send a few extra and drop a few in Iraq along the way.

"The U.N. Security Council will meet Monday to discuss Israel's attack on Iran. The Swiss U.N. mission said the meeting had been requested by Iran with the support of Algeria, China and Russia. Iraq has submitted a complaint to the U.N. over Israel's use of its airspace in the attack."

Really sick of the bias too:

"The Palestinian death toll since the Israeli invasion of Gaza has surpassed 43,000, and more than 100,000 have been wounded, the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry said."

Israel was invaded. Anything that came after that is them protecting themselves in retaliation.

Who wants to bet that if everything fails and Trump officially wins in a couple of weeks and they cant deny/derail, Biden doesn't push the button soon after ( figuratively speaking ) so Trump comes into office in a middle of a total disaster, then the Ds blame him?

AND the get to be even more draconian for the remainder of the term. 'we are in war ya know, gimme your rights, damned serfs'

Weenies:

"Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said in July that Iran does not seek a wider war in the Middle East and that such a conflict would have no winners, something Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi echoed last week, saying "if a major war breaks out in the region, America will be dragged into it, which is something we do not want."

Oh? i had not looked at news.  Good for them ( and the rest of the free-ish world ).  But they need to send a nuke or 2 over. Enough with playing around.

Fri Oct 25 2024 21:38:12 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Is (it) real ?

So I guess Israel has had enough and is bombing Iran today.

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran...

I think most of us here are in agreement on this one :) 

NATO needs to go too.

Tue Oct 22 2024 21:27:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Works for me. The UN is a global terrorist organization and it has no right to exist. Now let's take care of that UN building in New York.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/10/11/israel-to-turn-unrwa-hq-jerusalem-apartment-building/

Israel to Turn UNRWA HQ in Jerusalem into Apartment Building

Israel has gone full based!

"Israeli forces fire at UN peacekeeper positions in south Lebanon, peacekeepers say" And? Those fascist 'world order' pushing blue helmets should be used for target practice.  Good on the Israelis, if true and not just more propaganda.

Been a year.   Predictions  on what Israel might do tomorrow?

( wont be what i would like to see. )

Israel needs to remove him from the earth as well.

"Qatar's Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani called for serious ceasefire efforts to stop Israel's "aggression" in Lebanon and said no peace was possible in the Middle East without the creation of a Palestinian state."

Rumor is Israel will be targeting oil fields in retaliation.  Soooooo up goes gas prices more. Fill up your tanks this morning.   If Iran strikes back, then the next round targets their nuclear facilities. ( which is not a bad thing )

Sounds like our ships intercepted some of the missiles.   Now they will be pissed at us too.

I missed the news update. . so they did start?

Tue Oct 01 2024 13:08:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Welcome to world war 3

And just like that ... the missiles are flying. Welcome to world war 3.

"Intelligence reports that Iran is planning to directly attack Israel within the next 12 hours, targeting areas in northern Tel Aviv"

Hang on to your hats, if this turns out to be true.

Should have got gas yesterday. 

"Crude oil spikes 4% on fears Iran preparing to directly attack Israel"

Not read details, but some sort of new push in our military to be 'war ready with china' by 2027... This is the current expected invasion time of Taiwan, and we get to step up and get directly involved.

That is right around the corner.

Yes i don't see a battery doing that.   Best they could hope for is fire.  

Wonder what it would be like if Tesla sent out a command to roll up windows, lock all the doors, and set all their cars on fire one weekend...  or someone hacked the network and did it for them. 

Thu Sep 26 2024 09:47:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

A little ball of plastic explosives the size of a toenail packs a
whole lot of kaboom.

The "official" answer is that they don't know what was in the pagers that made them explode. The truth is that it was a small amount of pentaerythritol tetranitrate. The battery in the pager would of course join in with the explodey fun once the explosion begins, but it does not appear that overvolting the battery was the source of the detonation.

That makes sense, of course, because an overvolted battery doesn't pop quickly enough to be used as a weapon.

radios dont report back geo locations as they move around. My understanding this was the bigger reason they dropped using phones.  A 2ndary is of course towers.. easy to knock out or disable services and its not available in a lot of desolate locations anyway. ( unless its satellite phone i guess, but they could still disable sim cards in-mass ).

Sure, have to talk in 'code' since anyone can listen in, and transmission can get you located if you are not careful ( short burst, constant movement ), but when they are just receiving orders, cant really locate them.

Sun Sep 22 2024 19:03:56 EDT from fandarel

Turns out the radios were Icom IC-V82. Older 2m ham HTs. So not only are Hezbollah cheap bastards, but they're also polluting the ham bands with their terrorist coordination garbage. And this is a security improvement over cellphones how?

If they are old models, that makes it even stranger how someone was able to do this. Perhaps years in the making? A long term contingency plan?

Or are they still being made, just old tech?  ( a quick search, mostly eBay.. so not new )

Sun Sep 22 2024 19:03:56 EDT from fandarel

Turns out the radios were Icom IC-V82. Older 2m ham HTs. So not only are Hezbollah cheap bastards, but they're also polluting the ham bands with their terrorist coordination garbage. And this is a security improvement over cellphones how?

Oh, sure, i have seen barrels blow up with tiny amounts. C4 is more powerful than smokeless powder.  But i just don't see it being deadly ( unless it happened to be in your face or something ), tho i can see it causing bad injuries you might die from later .. but then again, these boxes may be bigger than my pager was..   I'm going off that. Cant put much in those things.

Thu Sep 19 2024 13:24:16 EDT from darknetuser

A little ball of plastic explosives the size of a toenail packs a whole lot of kaboom.

Lot of unknowns, and a lot of international heat coming if its ever admitted how/who.  Lots of that goes into civilian hands.  its not 'military hardware' but 'consumer hardware'.

Wont get into if i think its right or wrong, but i know the overall reaction will be poor.

Thu Sep 19 2024 10:28:38 EDT from fandarel

I saw a photo of one of the "walkie-talkie"s that exploded yesterday. It was clearly an Icom unit, though there wasn't enough left to confirm whether it was a commercial model or amateur radio. Japanese-designed, but likely manufactured in China. Neither country is particularly friendly to Mossad or the IDF, so I'm left to assume they were shipped through a friendly country (probably USA) at some point. CIA is almost certainly involved or at least in the loop.

ok i found the actual quote on the manufacturing:

"The president of Taiwan-based Gold Apollo said that the pagers that exploded in Lebanon had been made under license by a company based in Hungary"

Not sure at this point.  But the damage i am seeing, small batteries would not do that.   And i guess it was mentioned that the supply chain for this stuff would have come thru Iran..  Adding more questions than answers.

Pager devices were mostly a Chinese brand, but they claim they don't actually make those, just that they licensed their brand name to be used by some other manufacturer ( i forget the country now.. but i'm thinking middle east too )  So even more questions... 

And of course Israel has yet to claim responsibility, so its still 'presumption' it was them.  As far as we know it could have been us.. 

Wed Sep 18 2024 21:10:06 EDT from zelgomer

2024-09-18 19:17 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Reports of more devices, now even radios, laptops, TVs more pagers
going up in flames over there in Lebanon.

Something odd afoot. 

Has it been confirmed that the devices were tampered with, or has Israel figured out how to highjack Li-Ion charge regulators, either with malware or some spooky remote means?

Reports of more devices, now even radios, laptops, TVs more pagers going up in flames over there in Lebanon.

Something odd afoot. 

i guess its chaos over there now. Even if they didn't do this, if they don't take advantage of the chaos and communication outage, they are fools.

Its being reported at this point that Israelis did it, by shipping in tampered devices and waited for them to be 'fully distributed' before setting them off.  ( still not sure how you kill people with such a small device. .but whatever )

Either way, 2 points for them.

Not sure how you could add enough  explosives to a tiny pager to kill anyone. And i don't see a double AA hurting anyone either.   How odd.  

Unless it was a box of them, then a tiny bit in each, would add up.

Tue Sep 17 2024 14:05:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

All the nations in the world just need to give me the codes.

Promise to nuke Seattle? Please?

Speaking of "having the codes" ...

[ https://tinyurl.com/25828hsg ]

About 2,800 hezbollah terrorists are injured and 9 dead after their pagers all exploded! Apparently someone (presumably Mossad?) managed to figure out a way to make the pagers detonate. They are all "late model" pagers so it's possible that they got into the supply chain and added this "feature" ... or maybe they just figured out a way to hack the system to make it overvolt the battery ... or maybe both.

Moar dead terrorist please! Bravo!

All the nations in the world just need to give me the codes.

Houthis now have hypersonic missiles..   One made it deep into Israel i guess.  Not good.

And while i dont know if it means anything in the bigger picture, but NATO has "approved" Ukraine's targeting central Russia..           I assume that means Russia is now at war ( on paper ) with NATO. 

All the "LOL OHIO" memesters are laughing their heads off right now.

Sun Sep 15 2024 11:05:49 EDT from Nurb432

Grrrrrr Haitians in ohio. 

Grrrrrr Haitians in ohio. 

that sucking sound you heard today was another 700 million being vacuumed out of our pockets and flying to Ukraine. 

Venezuela gang takes over a Chicago apartment like they are doing in Colorado. Local gangs are pissed. "this is our turf" Should be interesting to watch if they don't pull back. They will take action, even when the local government wont.

"A Philippine Coast Guard ship anchored in Sabina Shoal in the South China Sea since April was rammed by a China Coast Guard vessel on Saturday, officials said, as tensions between the two countries over their maritime disputes have recently shifted to the area."

China is getting antsy for war it seems.

Shoot abused hostages just before rescue.

If that isn't cause to parking lot the entire area, i don't know what is.

And why do i get a funny feeling we are careening towards an episode of Star Trek ( A Taste of Armageddon ).    To me it was one of the most bizarre episodes and most foretelling..

When you are not paying the bill, who cares how much you waste.. What a freaking scam. Keep that cash flowing.

"Ukraine is siccing a fleet of robot dogs on Russian troops, including some four-legged terminators it hopes to use to conduct “kamikaze” attacks on enemy soldiers and vehicles along the frontlines, officials said.

More than 30 of the $9,000-a-pop robo hounds made by the company Brit Alliance have taken to the battlefield so far, with the metal dogs serving as walking drones capable of performing reconnaissance missions and swiftly delivering supplies to troops.

A commander of Ukraine’s Kurt & Company unit told the Telegraph that his team is working to make the dogs also “act as a kamikaze drone against vehicles or enemy soldiers."

It needs to wait until i get that RISC-v AI board i have been waiting on for almost a year now to finally make it into production..  Taiwan needs to stay afloat at least until its been released and gets into my grubby hands so i can finally get off the GPU treadmill. 

Tue Aug 27 2024 07:16:43 EDT from darknetuser

 Taiwan and South Korea got invaded.

Yet another strike of 'thousands of missiles' sent out by Israel over the weekend. 

Putting aside the right or wrong ( we all know where i stand anyway ), how much longer can they keep this up before they run out? And what happens if they do? Does the rest of the world finally step up, or do they let them be overrun and obliterated by Hamas/Iran and their kind?

lol

"ISIS militants took over a Russian prison, demanding bla bla bla". Russians said, "nope no deals", and took it back killing or arresting them all  

THAT is how you handle these things.  Make it clear the outcome will not be in their favor, and they will quit happening.

lol

Sun Aug 11 2024 18:54:36 EDT from darknetuser

The best part was that reporter who got to cover the news. She was saying the poor muslims were peaceful and you couls see all the muslims in the background geared up with scimitars and bats. THey cut the transmission as soon as it became clear the transmission was damaging the narrative.

Unverified  ( tho i trust its source ) i guess now UK has bands of armed Muslims running around causing problems with zero resistance from police, while citizens are rioting and tearing the place down and being arrested in large groups, just for speaking out. 

Entire 'western world' is going up in smoke this year. 

Need smooth road and parking lots to properly load and transport fuel oil.

Tue Aug 06 2024 07:30:50 EDT from darknetuser

This is what happens when you don't stomp Maduro in time.

Venezuela has oil. The US is known for bringing Democracy to oil rich countries. You are invited to show up at Venezuela and spread as much Democracy as you like with Fuel-Air bombs.

Open/inviting borders..  the gift that keeps on giving.    Arm up folks. Its coming to all of us soon. 

"With operations throughout the country, an infamous Venezuelan gang dubbed the “epitome of evil” reportedly relocated just outside one of the safest cities in the United States.

Already suffering a death by a thousand cuts, eroding American national sovereignty under President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris’ administration appeared to invite a new national security threat. According to officials in El Paso, Texas who spoke with the Daily Mail, Tren de Aragua was no longer operating out of Tocorón prison in Venezuela, but instead had established a headquarters in Ciudad Juárez, Mexico.

“El Paso officials, who asked to remain anonymous, now fear gang violence will spill over into Texas’ sixth largest city — which is currently ranked among the top ten safest in America by the FBI,” the Mail reported.

The gang is said to be led by Héctor Guerrero Flores, better known as “Niño Guerrero.” The FBI is offering a $5 million dollar reward for the gang leader for listing violations that include conspiracy to participate in transnational organized crime such as money laundering, narcotics trafficking, human trafficking, and human smuggling.”

Speaking with the mail, Texas Rep. Tony Gonzales (R), whose district stretches from El Paso to San Antonio, asserted, “Tren de Aragua is the epitome of evil.”

“This gang is known to rape children, spearhead murders, and cause widespread chaos,” he added.

A previous report indicated that the Venezuelan national alleged to have murdered 22-year-old nursing student Laken Riley was believed to have ties to TdA and that the gang was suspected of aligning itself with Mexico’s Mara Salvatrucha, better known as MS-13, as criminals with ties to the organization were believed responsible for increased crime across New York City.

At the end of July, NewsNation correspondent Ali Bradley detailed that Homeland Security Investigations “reported that Tren De Aragua (TdA) criminal organization members in Denver have been given a ‘green light’ to fire on or attack law enforcement in Denver, Colorado,” and that at least 1,000 members of the over 5,000-strong gang were suspected of being in the United States."

One Source ->  https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/08/05/officials-release-tattoos-to-watch-for-on-migrants-as-infamously-evil-venezuelan-gang-nears-us-city-1477566

Ya ironclad when it supports the plan/agenda/etc.     Right on schedule. Hang on to your hats. October is going to be a rough one doubt the planet survives this one..

"The US will deploy additional warships and fighter jets to the Middle East to help defend Israel from possible attacks by Iran and its proxies, the Pentagon said.

Tensions remain high in the region over the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Iran and a key commander of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.

Missile defense forces were placed on a state of increased readiness to deploy, the Pentagon said, adding that its commitment to defend Israel was "ironclad".  "

Yep.

Fri Aug 02 2024 21:31:34 EDT from darknetuser

2024-07-29 19:17 from SouthernComputerGeek
"Turkey's Erdogan threatens to invade Israel over war in Gaza"

 

That's the last straw, we need to leave NATO!

I personally think it was a NATO mistake to let Turkey in.

2099482904@Uncensored

Parking garages are worse.

Wed Jul 31 2024 20:10:33 EDT from Nurb432

I rarely call for construction and i hate parking lots

"IT IS 'OUR DUTY TO SEEK REVENGE FOR HIS BLOOD,' LEADER SAYS

Khamenei said to order direct strike on Israel after Haniyeh killed in Tehran

Iranian officials tell NYT that options being weighed include a coordinated assault with Tehran’s proxies, say defense plans also being readied in case Israel or US strike Iran"

I rarely call for construction and i hate parking lots and malls, but i think in this case, we need to help Israel build a new parking lot out there. A LARGE one.

Should there really ever have been on in the first place?

Wed Jul 31 2024 09:18:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

At this point there shouldn't *be* a NATO. Its purpose is obsolete.

"Turkey's Erdogan threatens to invade Israel over war in Gaza"

That's the last straw, we need to leave NATO!

I read the invaders of the southern border are also bringing us the gift of measles  "Loose border policies blamed for staggering uptick in measles cases"

Illegals, the gift that just keeps on giving.

I read it on a couple of news services that he was threatening to move nukes or something if they didn't back off.  

And if it disrupts the elections to keep trump out, he would be all for it.   Our elections effect them too. 

Sun Jul 21 2024 18:23:07 EDT from darknetuser

I can certainly believe that, but why are you mentioning this, specifically?

Seems Putin is getting annoyed at NATO.   Might be seeing some retaliation soon.     If he does, it will spiral out of control quickly.   Just in time for elections.

Western news = propaganda

I believe 80% of the Democrats love Communism and want Russia/China to come here and take over ( well they think they love it.. they have no clue what it would really mean )  

Mon Jul 15 2024 08:15:37 EDT from darknetuser

I don' think it is making the great news anywhere, but Putin is rebuilding the Warsaw Pact at blazing speed. North Korea and Afghanistan (Afghanistan!) are already signed in, and China was doing drills with their troops in Belarus close to Poland.

Meanwhile, what I see in Western news instead is that Russia is gonna lose because they use outdated technology. The mantra is crazy. Like stations showing footage of Russian attack helicopters and people commenting those things are too old to be any use. Sorry, no: those models are newer than Apaches and can carry tonnes in fuel-air bombs.

I was playing an old (as in 1995) game in which you lead North Koreans assault squads against South Koreans. The game has parodic communistic vibes. One of the missions is to lead an incursion aganst a South Korean TV station . "Our Glorious Leader needs you to lead our glorious troops in a mission to stop corrupt fascist TV stations from spreading lies and propaganda." The miss

Many say Soros.  But i get a feeling he's taking orders too.  Does not seem smart enough.  Same for Klaus, a pawn in a much larger game.

I dont think its a large group that is doing it. some may THINK they are, but they are being manipulated. 

Fri Jul 12 2024 16:11:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

If you take that to its conclusion, which is more scary,  who
is directing them, from the shadows? 

Well, there are those who would quickly and loudly answer: "TEH J0000000000Z!!!!!!1"

I am not part of that camp, though. I think it's just a bunch of rich and powerful elite. May they all die painfully.

Well, that is encouraging.  Those gangs are some of the worst on the planet.  And now they clearly have relocated.

“And if you look at it, Venezuela, their crime is down 72%. Their crime, think of it, down 72 and ours is up. And we’re gonna have a new form of crime because these people are just getting comfortable,” said Trump. “They’re just getting settled in. We’re gonna have a new form of crime and it’s called Biden migrant crime. And that’s — it’s a new category.”

Next month Netanyahu visits DC.  Several Democrats are offering to act as representatives of the international court and serve the arrest warrant when he lands.

***ers.

Right, they were on the same side, but i think this makes it : "hey, look everyone, we are buddies and we are going to back each other up".  its all about marketing.

If you take that to its conclusion, which is more scary,  who is directing them, from the shadows? 

Fri Jun 21 2024 09:23:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

What I'm coming around to is the thought that the CIA has pretty much been in charge of everything since the 1960s. They are basically identical to the KGB. In retrospect, what did we think would happen? We built an agency designed to subvert foreign governments, so it was inevitable that they'd eventually subvert our own.

I hope im wrong, but nice to see you coming around to my way of thinking.   Last resort, absolute last card to be played, but i think they will play it. Will have no choice 

Of course it will be a fabricated event, and no one will believe its not, unlike with JFK.. so who knows how the populace will react this time.

Tue Jun 18 2024 18:37:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

I think they're going to try to kill him. 

So now Putin and Kim Un are buddies.  Signed some agreement that Putin will help Kim get nukes, among other support.   Just what that side of the planet needs. 

( and unrelated, how odd, more posts that were new that i didn't see the room light up on..  the 2 above i totally missed until i decided to post this one )

White house is "considering raising the terror threat alert level" 

Been looking around some, but not seen anything yet. Does raising the level give the feds more power over us serfs as it goes up? Or is it purely optics, until emergency/martial law is declared after the coming event?  

"Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke says he is siding with anti-Israel protesters and those who will “save us from Jewish supremacism” "

Wow, i had forgot about that scumbag.  Surprised hes still alive..

As always the left plays the long game. And the right, cant see past their nose.

"The Portland Association of Teachers has teamed up with a group called Teach Palestine, to teach kids as young as five to support Palestine, join the Intifada, and that Israel and the US are bullies."

"Biden admin to discuss unilateral cease fire talks with Hamas, but without Israel involvement"

wtf? 

no, really, WTF.

Apparently the last 4 people the IDF rescued were being held hostage, by civilians. 

So Putin is pissed countries are giving Ukraine high end long range weapons and saying "go ahead, shoot at Russia's mainland".    I would be pissed too.  He's threatening to do the same with his allies "here, free missiles, shoot at western nations with them".. 

I still bet we are at ( officially not proxy ) war by election time.  Add that to another pandemic they create, riots that are slowly ramping up, and the planned 'terrorist event'. While they cant ( currently ) stop the election, only delay it a month or 2, it will cause total chaos and make it easier to cheat. ( and more time to get rid of Trump )

I hope im wrong.

"Biden dramatically tightens border bla bla bla, only letting in 1.8 million illegals, not including ones we dont know about"

Total show, and yet he's being sued for being too strict.   

Um the law says zero. Every single one is a criminal.

Id be ok with that in concept. But i doubt it would ever work. Same reason we see what we see now: Too much of the rest of the population there are just incompatible with generally accepted freedom guidelines, often driven by religion. ( which is about impossible to stop )  . Eventually they rise up again and cause chaos.  I have no idea how you fix that, short of mandated Prozium or something. And even that didnt work out well.

Sun Jun 02 2024 21:35:33 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Andrew Klavan came up with that a long time ago. He calls it "The One State Solution".

And of course kitty too.. Not to the same level as being bombed, but it is getting rough down there in TX these days with the influx of criminals. 

Sat Jun 01 2024 16:25:35 EDT from Nurb432

More rockets hit Israel a bit ago. ( from Lebanon i guess but its all the same scumbags pushing hte buttons )

I really do hope TrilCat is doing ok.

More rockets hit Israel a bit ago. ( from Lebanon i guess but its all the same scumbags pushing hte buttons )

I really do hope TrilCat is doing ok.

So the Biden admin gave Ukraine express permission to hit Russian soil with the weapons we gave them.  Has to be some legal issues with that and may just have started 'the' war.  

Agreed.

But, when you are a tiny well meaning flea on a huge mean dog..  Sometimes its not the best place to be, even if you never bite the dog...

Mon May 27 2024 20:26:57 EDT from msgrhys

It's pretty much the only dependably civilized country in that region.

 

Don't get me wrong, my sympathies lie with Israel. The Israelis DO have historical claim to the land, after all. It's pretty much the only dependably civilized country in that region.

Mon May 27 2024 20:10:11 EDT from Nurb432

ya, and while i dont disparage the Israelis at all, they just are not compatible with that region of the world and bad things are always destined to take place.

Ignoring the fact they all hate them around there for a moment. Much like If you tried to drop Syria or something uninvited into middle of the Americas, it would not work out well over the long term. Different way of life, philosophy, history, religion, everything.

Mon May 27 2024 20:03:06 EDT from msgrhys

Good grief that region is a powder keg.

 

ya, and while i dont disparage the Israelis at all, they just are not compatible with that region of the world and bad things are always destined to take place.

Ignoring the fact they all hate them around there for a moment. Much like If you tried to drop Syria or something uninvited into middle of the Americas, it would not work out well over the long term. Different way of life, philosophy, history, religion, everything.

Mon May 27 2024 20:03:06 EDT from msgrhys

Good grief that region is a powder keg.

 

Good grief that region is a powder keg.

Mon May 27 2024 18:20:28 EDT from Nurb432

Cool. Israelis and Egyptians are shooting at each other.  At least once Egyptian is dead. Perhaps more.

Cool. Israelis and Egyptians are shooting at each other.  At least once Egyptian is dead. Perhaps more.

Didn't listen to it all, but some interview from an illegal ( middle eastern i think ) was talking about the others that came across with him at the same time. "these people are dangerous, its no longer safe here, i may go back home"

Give this man an award.

( and in related news. FJB sent his 'heart felt condolences' to Iran.. grr )

Mon May 20 2024 22:02:28 EDT from zelgomer

It was me. Sorry, everybody.

Iranian president, helicopter crash, MIA.

This may not go well, depending on who is responsible. 

So illegals in some encampment are now demanding things such as 'free showers and food, but not pre-made food'  wtf.   i guess they are watching TV with the college protests. 

Oh and BLM is suing the funders of the collage riots..  they want their share or something.     Watch them eat their own.. lol. 

Contractor in to paint over some pro terrorist graffiti at one of the schools.  Idiots jumped in front to block him and refused to move. So he painted over them

LoL. Give that man a medal. 

Well that is disappointing. Even MIT 'students' have joined into the lunacy.

lol  that there is really funny,  They misspelled Palestine . 

"Ottawa protesters mocked over misspelled graffiti featured in Macklemore’s anti-Israel music video"

And never forget money being spent on the 'war machine'.

Tue May 07 2024 14:43:10 EDT from darknetuser

The US gains a lot of power by being Israel's big brother. If the region became pacified the US would lose a chunck of political leverage in the Middle East.

There is always collateral damage in a war.  Plus, they may love the camel, which is admirable, but at the same time, want to feed you to it ...

Tue May 07 2024 14:06:51 EDT from darknetuser

You know, I used to have a picture of a muslim camel trainer and a camel. 

i 'think' we just stopped shipping arms to Israel. 

That will seal their fate, if what i read is true..

Most dont care why. I think they fall into 2.5 main camps ( pun fully intended )

1 - They are being paid, as its their job

2 - They just want chaos. Either to tear it all down, or its fun to scream and yell and be the center of attention.

Sun May 05 2024 20:18:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

. Most don't even know what they're protesting. 

As long as i was guaranteed no legal retaliation or anything, i would have zero issue doing it.

But that should surprise no one.

Sun May 05 2024 20:05:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

I probably wouldn't be able to get myself to push the button even if I had the opportunity. It's fun to talk smack though.

The earth will survive no matter what we do. It was here long before us, and will be here long after.  its been thru far worse than we could ever dream of doing to it.   ( and worse is coming.. .in a few billion years when the sun eats it as  the sun slowly turns into a red giant )

Humans, are temporary. 

Regardless of whether you consider the piece of land spiritually important or not, how can you, in good conscience, advocate annihilating enormous parts of PLANET EARTH!? (and therefore millions of people) Have you lost your mind!?

Thu May 02 2024 10:30:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

As a devout member of one of the three religions that lays claim to Jerusalem -- I am ok with Zel's idea of just turning the entire region into something uninhabitable by ANYONE. You see, we don't assign any value to the land itself aside from as a historical site. When Jesus said "IT IS FINISHED" -- He *meant* it. All of that old-covenant shit is irrelevant now. So yes, if the entire tract of land from the south shore of the Mediterranean to the southern tip of Africa was wiped out -- no big loss.

Lol

We protest, and get ignored.

We riot and go to jail.

Hey, lets stage a hunger strike ( and get laughed at )

And why the F are cities adding the symbol of Muslims and the Palestinian star/colors to their flags. Those responsible should be ridiculed and expelled from the country.

Im sure people like O and his handlers rejoice every time. Grrrr

All part of the plan. The coordinators want another kent-state like event.

Fri May 03 2024 19:20:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

 complaining about how badly the protesters were treated

Hmm .  Drone footage showing ucla rioters being "trained" in hand to hand combat, in preparation for the police coming.

Sure, ineffective. Cant train a bunch of whiny ass entitled children at the last minute, but it does show what is going on. Professional outsiders, trying to start a war.

Right, i was trying to separate the 2 pieces. 

Does not mean their overall intent was good, just that part A was not a bad idea in general. 

Fri May 03 2024 15:01:03 EDT from darknetuser

2024-05-02 17:17 from Nurb432
Well all things considered, moving it to a calmer location is a
logical decision.

Do you know how everybody has a good reason, and then a real reason? I agree that Israel might not be the best place right now for a conference, but rest assured that isn't the reason why they are getting rejected every single time.

Its sort of fun watching the cops tear it down.

Its too bad they were far too kind to the occupying criminals. The one that sprayed an unknown substance at the cops faces, should have been eradicated in an instant. The line was crossed.

"Cops in riot gear shut down UCLA encampment "

Nope no bias there.

How about "cops arrest rioters"

Well all things considered, moving it to a calmer location is a logical decision.

However, rejecting applications, that is rather disappointing. 

Thu May 02 2024 17:10:44 EDT from darknetuser

By the way, I was readng in Linux Magazine that DebConf24 has moved from Israel to South Korea due to the ongoing conflict.

A quick scan on the Internet suggests the move is more political than practical. I think the Debian team at Israel has had their applications rejected 3 or 4 times already. If I was a team member from Israel I would start focusing on a different distribution.

2024.75 ( fall )

Kill everyone. Burn it to the ground. Cant let Trump take the seat... Whatever it takes...

Thu May 02 2024 10:30:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

1967 - "Make love not war"
2024 - "Make war not love"

Watching the videos of the police hauling those idiots away ( and of course them complaining' they are using force"  no kidding you violated the law, and violated orders to vacate. Be glad this isn't Russia or they would just shoot you, and id agree to it happening.. )

But as i was watching, pretty amazed at the funding behind this. Aside from the scaffolding, tents, wood, etc. the "supplies" they are getting are not cheap.  You can see it in the trash heaps they are leaving behind.  Rather amazing. Of course Biden's DOJ/FBI/DHS/whatever wont look into this, as im sure its one of their buddies sending supplies. ( but not food. lol )

LoL not only are the school protesters demanding amnesty, they are now demanding humanitarian aid.

I heard some were begging for something to drink and eat since they didnt plan ahead ( go figure ).  Well, i know of this nice fire-hose that will give you something to drink.  'eat this'

As long as there is money to be collected, power to accumulate. No, government 'issues' wont be addressed.

And another where the students did it. Chanting USA and saluting the flag.

Perhaps all hope is not lost.

I am not sure which college it was, but there is a video of cops yanking down a Palestine flag wadding it up and then restoring the American flag that was there to begin with.

Ya, F- those idiot terrorist supporting rioters. This is America, we fly OUR flag here. 

Only for the short term, as a tool, extra resources. Then they would turn on their 'friends' and eradicate Islam next.

Now, would it be a fatal mistake and lose the battle, perhaps, but i am positive it would be the plan. Befriend for convenience, and only temporary.

Wed May 01 2024 06:42:04 EDT from darknetuser

This is a big problem I have with textbook Nazies. They would side with Islam if that hurt the Jews, instead of realizing Islam is a global threat in the same tier as communism.

Its about the Palestinian protest camp, so i think it qualifies here..  But i guess yesterday someone release a backpack full of what may be infected research mice into the encampment..   

While the mice release is legit, videos of that happening but if true about infected research mice, that could turn out really bad. For everyone. And if its a new tactic that spreads....  not good

Wtf.  really wtf.

The International Criminal Court is going to issue arrest warrants for Netanyahu and his senior military leaders. 

So the latest batch of pro-terrorist college protesters are now demanding amnesty.

Cant make this stuff up

I'm gonna just leave this here.

2099466255@Uncensored

"The pro-Palestinian “protesters” at Columbia and Yale have reportedly been circulating a guidebook encouraging more bad behavior.

Titled “First We Take Columbia: Lessons from the April 1968 Occupations Movement,” the guidebook was published Saturday by Ill Will, a far-left magazine."

I downloaded a copy. "know thy enemy"

ONLY the ones shipped there.   But did we expect any less?

Fri Apr 26 2024 09:20:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

After reading some more I think it applies to the illegal invaders who were shipped to Martha's Vineyard, getting visas because a crime was committed against them. Geez.

Meanwhile, the useful idiots have invaded every college campus in the nation and are trying to start another holocaust.

I think its perversion of a rule to protect real immigrants who were actual victims of crimes where they came from. 

Wed Apr 24 2024 22:27:20 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

How the hell does that even work? By declaring them to be criminals they get visas?

One of several sources.   i just did a search on : "migrants getting suspected crime visas"

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article287896095.html 

Illegals being sent out by Fla and TX are being awarded 'crime status' so they get instant legal visas.

Yes, id have nuked them too.

I think Israel counter attacked.   Not sure details but i think they did. ( good for them. Tho if they didnt send nukes, it wasn't enough )

More riots this weekend!  

Of course. But their haters, dont really care. 

Mon Apr 15 2024 17:39:26 EDT from msgrhys

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/04/14/report-iranian-general-killed-israeli-airstrike-involved-planning-execution-hamas-oct-7-attack/

 

So the Israeli attack on Iran's embassy was NOT unprovoked! Once again the Israelis are vindicated.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/04/14/report-iranian-general-killed-israeli-airstrike-involved-planning-execution-hamas-oct-7-attack/

So the Israeli attack on Iran's embassy was NOT unprovoked! Once again the Israelis are vindicated.

Pretty much

Sun Apr 14 2024 07:26:17 EDT from Nurb432

Nah, their real goal is to be a money laundering operation and citizen control system.

Nah, their real goal is to be a money laundering operation and citizen control system.

Ah so the UN Security Council is going to have a meeting; that will prevent World War III</sarcasm>

Mark my words: The UN will not do the one thing it is actually supposed to, which is to prevent another freaking world war!

At least im too old to be drafted.  Its coming really soon.  

I just heard the news about Iran. The bastards are actually doing it.

Reports that its started.

Aside from the obvious wishes, i do hope our trilcat is still ok. and will continue to be so thru this.

There is a good chance Iran will strike Israel in the next few days, and not be a via a proxy but do it themselves and claim ownership.

So.. what happens next?

They will still blame Trump.

Just like they will do for the coming terrorist event 

Fri Apr 05 2024 16:29:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

It means that we will officially join the war, making Obamabiden a wartime president.

All I can say is: GO RUSSIA! BEAT BIDEN!

“I won’t characterize President Xi’ ‘s comments, but I can tell you that President Biden was very, very clear that nothing has changed about our One China Policy,” he added. “We don’t support independence for Taiwan, but we also don’t want to see the status quo changed in a unilateral way, and certainly not by force.”

Well, i guess when china invades Taiwan this fall, we will send flowers, not fighters.   ( they need to do it while B* is still in offfice )

Ukraine was accepted, and will join NATO late this summer ( or 'soon' i have heard both )

Does that mean we are all forced to go to war, just in time for the elections to ramp up?  Or are 'wars in process' excluded?  Sort of like pre-existing health conditions for insurance.

I dont consider Billyboy as benevolent

Tue Apr 02 2024 13:43:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

No, Bill Clinton didn't do that; it was his wife Hillary who was responsible for those actions.

Perhaps after we dissolve the union next year and reform into a smaller republic, leaving the 'left' states out, it might run properly. For a few generations, until it falls apart too.  People cant govern themselves and behave. Bad actors always bubble up and ruin it.

I have proposed it before, but i think mankind as a whole ( not individuals ) need a benevolent dictator.  Problem is, anyone that is able to do that, wont be benevolent, so we are stuck in this cycle.

In principle id agree, however we would do NOTHING about the actual issues down there.  In fact, the current admin would encourage it.  

Fri Mar 22 2024 23:27:55 EDT from zelgomer

I don't remember whether I've said it here before, but the US needs to take over Mexico. Pull a Russia/Ukraine or Israel/Gaza on them. Can't keep your riff-raff under control? You're not a real country. Merry Christmas, it's a US territory now.

Yay. 2 illegals from Honduras follow and run down a citizen and start shooting at them out on the interstate. Hit him in the back of the head. ( i guess he will survive, was able to call for help )

Cameras show one go out before they left and cover their licence plate with a hat.

Due to an altercation in a restaurant/bar, he bumped one of them by accident as he passed by, and noticed a gun  then said something about it..  "snitch" then they went out and waited. The followed the guy around 5 miles out to I65. ( last i heard, guns are illegal in a bar. I dont go to bars, so not kept up on that rule, but regardless its what took place and they could have just posted their own rules.  get caught, you have to leave ),

and as most of you know, i'm not in Texas, NYC, Chicago.  Simple Midwest.  This was not even in the big city, it was a suburb, near where i used to live back when i was in grade school/middle school..  Aside from the build-up which i complain about,  I dont even recognize the area anymore as its degenerated so much. ( and i think i mentioned a couple years ago i got harassed and stuff tossed at my jeep by gang members just driving thru.. and where that happened, they lost their mail service, people attacking the carriers )

And it only gets worse from here.. 

Um just noticed this could be radically mis-understood, poor wording on my part.

I was meaning Palestine, they absorbed and supported terrorists..  They cant complain about poor treatment at this point.

Thu Mar 21 2024 12:53:54 EDT from Nurb432

Hamas is the root of all evil there, but of course Israel gets blamed. 

 

I guess that is what happens when your society absorbs and supports terrorist's that dont care about human life..  Eventually you get the short end of the stick.

So now we have mobs of criminals breaking down barriers and basically running over border patrol.

One can debate the proper action for those that swim across illegally and just stand around waiting to be picked up by Biden's people, but this sort of aggressive action should unquestionably be grounds to shoot on sight.  Nothing else, for their own protection. Who knows what weapons these invaders have.  Even just the size of the mob could mean severe injury or death for the agents and they have a right to protect themselves by any means necessary. 

Hamas is the root of all evil there, but of course Israel gets blamed. 

I guess that is what happens when your society absorbs and supports terrorist's that dont care about human life..  Eventually you get the short end of the stick.

"A Lebanese migrant who was caught sneaking over the border admitted he’s a member of Hezbollah, he hoped to make a bomb, and his destination was New York, The Post can reveal.

Basel Bassel Ebbadi, 22, was caught by border patrol on March 9 near El Paso, Texas. While in custody he asked what he was doing in the US, to which he replied: “I’m going to try to make a bomb,” according to a Border Patrol document exclusively obtained by The Post.

In a subsequent sworn interview, Ebbadi said he had trained with Hezbollah for seven years and served as an active member guarding weapons locations for another four years, according to internal ICE documents."

ya.we are f-ed.

Was reading they are also cannibals. so not just burn.. but instead 'cook'....  So I guess a true barbecue.

And they are heading towards Florida.

Fri Mar 15 2024 09:23:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

It doesn't. His calling card is that he burns people alive.

Ah ok.

Fri Mar 15 2024 09:23:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

It doesn't. His calling card is that he burns people alive.

Perhaps that word means something different down there?

Can you believe the most powerful man in Haiti is a gang leader who calls himself “Barbecue”? Sounds like an anime villain.

Bad part is most of us would be exterminated.  

Thu Mar 14 2024 17:44:33 EDT from darknetuser

A small part of me wish Islam would take over, so we would no longer need to worry about the Identitary Politics mafia anymore.

As we all know, im not religious ( at all ) but even i agree... 

Thu Mar 14 2024 17:35:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

 "Palestine" is not a legitimate state.  Wipe it out and Make Israel Whole Again.

It's just "the latest thing."  My daughter brings home daily reports of the "palestine" bullshit going on at her liberal college campus.  The "protests" are made up largely of people who have bought into the victim mentality, and every victim group is equally as viable as every other victim group.  The most ironic is that many of them are also rainbow mafiosi who would be instantly killed by "palestinians" if they went over there.  Their brains are fried by the "fight the Man" mentality that has been programmed into them by the Man.

There has been a genocide going on for many decades, but it's the exact opposite of their narrative.  The "palestinians" really do want Israel (i.e. the Jews) to be 100% exterminated.  And for that, we must consider them to be terrorists and hope and pray for their destruction.   "Palestine" is not a legitimate state.  Wipe it out and Make Israel Whole Again.

"pro Palestine is not anti-Israeli"  Idiots.   I guess that is the new narrative.

Left wingers keep saying "genocide" but when you're wiping out terrorists it's regular war.  Israel needs to destroy more of HamasPalestine, not less.  All of it would be best.

I dont have details, just the tag ling where I guess a bunch of Israelis blocked some aid to Gaza. Good for them. i support that action. Then add:   "How does that feel, terrorist hypocrites".  *bird flip*   

So Haiti blew up yesterday.  State of emergency.  Leader MIA...   Prisons ransacked by gangs, criminals back on the streets killings, fires, etc..  "we are headed to the US" 

Did i hear this right? We are putting sanctions on Israel since they wont stop protecting themselves and enact a cease fire?

WTF

Hey you are back. How was the trip? where are our pictures? :) 

Mon Feb 19 2024 17:14:35 EST from LadySerenaKitty

If the non-existent nation "Palestine" falls and it all becomes part of a muzzletard-free Israel, the rest of the muzzletards will come flooding toward Israel and self-detonate.  The problem literally solves itself.

Thu Feb 15 2024 14:19:53 EST from Nurb432

How about the planet? 

 

If the non-existent nation "Palestine" falls and it all becomes part of a muzzletard-free Israel, the rest of the muzzletards will come flooding toward Israel and self-detonate.  The problem literally solves itself.

Thu Feb 15 2024 14:19:53 EST from Nurb432

How about the planet? 

How about the planet? 

And declare them a terrorist org, and jail their operational leaders.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/02/10/israel-reveals-hamas-intel-tunnel-underneath-unrwa-hq-in-gaza/

The forces located electrical infrastructure inside the tunnel connected to UNRWA’s main headquarters, under which the underground tunnel was located, indicating that UNRWA’s facilities supplied the tunnel with electricity.

We need to defund the whole U.N. ASAP!

Thanks in large part to Biden's payments to them:

• As of now, Iran has enough enriched uranium now to make 6 bombs. And this amount is increasing rapidly.
• Has ballistic missile hardware capable of reaching the EU, and Israel.  
• Could easily control 30%  ( or more ) of the world energy supply if they put their thumb down on places like Saudi Arabia. "comply or we kill you all"
• Starting up several nuclear power plants, to become less reliant on Saudi energy.
• They hate all of us... want us all dead....

Yep, the war is just beginning. And we are F-ed.

Cool. our governor is getting ready to send troops to Texas.  Glad it wasn't just hot air.

So we went and bombed some stuff related to Iran.   We left transponders on, and told them we are coming..    This is treasonous behavior. 

I dont know. Since we are being invaded as part of the civil war, i say it qualifies as being part of the larger world war:  Everyone fighting each other...

Tue Jan 30 2024 19:45:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

This *is* a war, and we *should* be opening fire on people trying to cross the border. And the people in our government who are supporting the enemy have committed treason and absolutely deserve to be executed.

But that's Civil War II. We were supposed to be talking about World War III, which is still in the middle east, right?

No real proof, just some people saying that its what happened ( and mostly they are right about things )

But i guess recently we had a illegal threaten a reporter on camera, and brag 'you will know me soon'. People using the video determined he was a convicted terrorist in some country, served 12 years.  Came here after release.

One more: We are screwed no matter what happens this fall. If we even make it that long.

Ya i read that today too. 1/2 the country.

There was a picture of the map, my state is included. As it should be.

Fri Jan 26 2024 17:19:32 EST from nonservator

Last night I heard it was up to 25 states. If any of them pussy out now, they're worse than useless.

Last night I heard it was up to 25 states. If any of them pussy out now, they're worse than useless.

Is there such a thing? 

I only know of the national guard, which is 'owned' by the feds but 'managed' by the states, i guess.   Still not sure i fully understand how it works, it seems like a convoluted mess.  But then again, its government, what isn't? 

But either way, pulling rank or whatever to remove their use by the states is still a bad move.

Fri Jan 26 2024 12:38:02 EST from msgrhys

State Guard > National Guard

 

State Guard > National Guard

Thu Jan 25 2024 17:41:51 EST from Nurb432

Lines are being drawn.  Several states ( i heard 16 so far, may not mot be accurate but i did see at least 4 myself . ) and several members in congress have declared support for Texas. 

Rumor is BIden may federalize the national guard, so the states cant use them for protection.  WH refused to comment when directly asked... so you know what that means

Sigh freaking auto correct. 

Tue Jan 23 2024 18:08:42 EST from Nurb432

 SCOUTS

 

Lines are being drawn.  Several states ( i heard 16 so far, may not mot be accurate but i did see at least 4 myself . ) and several members in congress have declared support for Texas. 

Rumor is BIden may federalize the national guard, so the states cant use them for protection.  WH refused to comment when directly asked... so you know what that means

So Texas just flipped DC the bird after SCOUTS shredded the 10th amendment.

"This isn't over, and we have not changed our policy or plans".

Some local TV station/news thing. I Did not read it fully, nor watch the full video, as the point was there, and i guess i was right, just no one is talking about it at a national level ( tho i wish i had been wrong )

"....surge in illegal border crossings.. northern border... " 

Invasion from all sides. We are F-ed.

I doubt this will end well.  But at least its between themselves and wont directly involve us.

"Pakistan recalled its ambassador from Iran and the Iranian ambassador to Pakistan, currently visiting Iran, will not be allowed to come back, a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry spokesperson said on Wednesday (January 17) after Iran violated its airspace.

"Pakistan reserves the right to respond to this illegal act. The responsibility for the consequences will lie squarely with Iran", spokesperson Zahra Baloch said in a statement read out on state-owned broadcaster PTV.

Pakistan said the airspace violation on Tuesday (January 16), which Iranian state media said came as Iranian missiles targeted two bases of the militant group Jaish al Adl, had resulted in the deaths of two children.

Iran's Foreign Minister Amir-Abdollahian said it hit militants in "missile and drone" strikes, saying no Pakistani national was targeted. Pakistan has not confirmed the nature of the violation, or the location of the strikes.

Pakistan and Iran have in the past had rocky relations, but the strikes are the highest-profile cross-border intrusion in recent years."

I would agree only total obliteration will work, but, its not dumb when you consider the actual agenda that is driving the actions: Perpetual war, perpetual money laundering, increased power over citizens. 

These people are not stupid, they just dont have our best interest in mind, so sometimes it looks like stupidity, but never lose sight of the reality...

Wed Jan 17 2024 12:00:48 EST from LoanShark

Dumb is milquetoast half-measures that won't deter the Houthis and will hand them a political victory in the region.

"U.S. Navy Seizes Ship Transporting Lethal Aid From Iran To Houthis"

Which is against international law.. ( shipping, not seizing )

I guess this morning, Iran hit targets in Iraq and Syria. Several dead.

Using the excuse ' they were Israeli spy centers'..  lol 

Cool. New strikes. Both us and UK with support from Australia, Bahrain, Canada and Netherlands...

What does Canada  have to support with? Snow balls? No really.. what sort of armed force do they have besides people?

I guess  we just launched air strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen. That will piss off Iran.

Ah..

Wed Jan 10 2024 18:58:56 EST from darknetuser

A quarter of the prisons in Ecuador are just military headquarters for gangsters. If you want to take control of them you need to lay siege to them.

I know they were bad off, but not sure id call it pre-collapse, but i dont follow it that much..

But interesting a report on government actions:  "imposed a curfew while allowing for he government to “suspend rights and mobilize the military in places like prisons.”

I wonder if they made this dude disappear on purpose, to stoke the chaos and lock down as a result.   And i wonder if ours has the same thing planned when Trump vanishes..

Wed Jan 10 2024 04:57:34 EST from darknetuser

For something to collapse, it needs be in an uncollapsed state first.

Add Ecuador to the mess. I think they just collapsed today.   Drug cartels have taken over, by force.

May just saber rattling from the little fat guy, but it looks like North Korea is pushing limits.  Live fire exercises today so close to one of SK's islands they had to evacuate.  And they declared 'no more unification options'..  

And rumors of China attacking Taiwan later this summer are growing.  

Like i have been predicting.. total meltdown of the planet this summer. From all sides. Before elections. ( some relationship, but not all of it ). Its all in cycles, its time for meltdown of society, everywhere. Dark ages v2 coming.

Would be fun to watch, from a self-sufficient base on mars or something.. 

Well, terrorist attack inside Iran. 100+ dead.

Didn't see that one coming. Really, i didnt.   Israel, sure, US , sure, but terrorists attacking a terrorist state seems odd to me.

There is some truth to that. Tho in practice i dont think it would work out well.    But if it did happen you would literally hear the liberals heads explode as they shout "colonialism" at the top of their lungs.

Wed Jan 03 2024 09:21:13 ESTfrom zelgomer

Then you're not a real country, you represent a national security threat to us, congratulations Mexico is a US territory now.

Yep, same reason we do. They are invaders.

Tho in this case it makes Mexicans look bad to the uninformed.   In general, Mexicans are good people. Unlike their invaders.

Wed Jan 03 2024 07:52:33 EST from darknetuser

Fun part is Mexicans hate the people who moves into Mexico in order to move into the the US with a passion you can't put in words.

I thought everyone knew this?  Mexico is just the easy route in. While our northern border is far less protected  ( if that is even possible :) ), trying to ship them to Canada then come south, not so easy. ( i'm sure its happening tho )

Tue Jan 02 2024 22:37:05 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Apparently the number of people coming in directly from Mexico is quite small.  There is a large well-funded movement to flood the United States with illegal aliens from all over the world in a deliberate attempt to dilute Americans.

 

Apparently the number of people coming in directly from Mexico is quite small.  There is a large well-funded movement to flood the United States with illegal aliens from all over the world in a deliberate attempt to dilute Americans.

And since the bad people control the media they want you to believe that opposing this is "racist".  Well it isn't about race.  The world is so intermixed now that in a couple hundred years we'll all look the same.  No, it's about something far more nefarious.  The United States is a nation founded in revolution and we still have that fighting spirit.  They're working as hard as they can to breed that out of us.  They want us outnumbered by people who think "well of course the government is corrupt, we have always lived with that and we always will".

It truly is time to round up the global elite and shove them all into wood chippers.

Over 200,000 invaders on the southern border this month.  so far.. THIS MONTH.

We will never recover from the damage this administration has caused to this country ( hell, the planet )  No one can save us now.

Some of his videos are pretty neat.  Hes been doing 'science videos' of late it seems. 

I also noticed a decline in the comic and stopped looking years ago.

Tue Dec 19 2023 21:38:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Classic XKCD was pretty awesome. Too bad he jumped the shark quite some time ago.

Some of XKCD's stuff is classic.  Like 'the cloud' 

( or Angular Momentum which has too much meaning now  :( )

Sat Dec 16 2023 18:44:54 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

 

I like to think that armegeddon hasn't come because the machines from the Terminator series and the machines from the Matrix series were going to be created by rival tech companies and they couldn't agree on a standard.

isn't that 'web 4.0' ?

:) 

Sat Dec 16 2023 18:44:54 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

they couldn't agree on a standard.

Trying to find it, but not. Mostly just ranting about others supporting it.  So i bet it was for a 100% good reason. 

Fri Dec 15 2023 16:13:08 EST from darknetuser

2023-12-15 08:13 from Nurb432
in the news this morning:   "Hungary blocks €50bn of EU funding
for Ukraine"

What was the argument they gave?

in the news this morning:   "Hungary blocks €50bn of EU funding for Ukraine"

Good for them for standing up for what is right and not funding the laundering service.

Forgot about them. Add them to my list :)  

Thu Dec 14 2023 17:03:49 ESTfrom darknetuser

 

 

Aztecs performed human sacrifices and dealed slaves. 

I might be missing the point ( its early ). But i grantee you throughout history other people have been like this.

• American Indians, they fought long before Europeans arrived.
• African tribes, same thing, fought for generations before being 'discovered' by England
• Egyptian Pharaohs, pretty sure they were not influenced by the west.
• Genghis Khan, last i heard was not European.

Plenty more. Not saying the have not influenced and driven some of it in modern times, just saying they dont have a monopoly and all was was not peace and rainbows before they started branching out. Its human nature. Kill people you dont like. And then justify it however you have to.

Myself, I prefer to say "What's the context?" and "Who is saying that?" and "Who is that being said to?" and "To what extent do those words being said actually represent reality?"

This is exactly what I am talking about, if I undertand you rightly. I am no historian, but the idea that life is sacred to Europeans and their decendents and not to non-Europeans is rubbish. The Germans weren't alone in trying to whipe out Jews in Europe. The Belgians commited one of the worst genocides in history in the Congo (and brought back African children to keep in zoos until the 1960s). The Spanish wiped out the Aztecs (who were as "western" as it gets and who were pretty violent in their own right). Canadians and USians built their countries on "cultural genocide", forced assimilation, and outright conquest.

And the idea that life is sacred is pretty core to, say, Budhism for example.

And speaking of Africa, most of the instability and warfare there is a direct consequence of rich white Europeans drawing up borders to contain rival groups into single geopolitical entities. Similarly Hamas was bolstered by Israel (which in turn was established by the British Mandate) for politcal reasons (no doubt using some the gajillions of dollars that the US sends in support). And as far as I know Isil/Isis was created by the US for similar reasons.

My point is that almost every bit of violence I hear about from my history books or in my news feeds is either directly or indirectly caused or fed by Europeans and their descendents.

So I am still not buying it.

Tue Oct 31 2023 11:53:50 EDT from darknetuser

That's what I hear, but I'm not buying it. Sounds too... simplistic
and narrative-driven in my opinion.

The core of the matter is that life is cheap in most of the world. The idea that life is sacred and must be protected is very Western. If you go to any African hellhole they have no trouble killing 15 yo pregnant girls.

If you withdraw an standing army stationed on a region next to fundamentalist forces, I guarantee you they will take over the next day, kill everybody that does not look pure to them and ask the questions later.

Beyond Thunderdome was my first Mad Max movie, and it introduced me to the post-apoc genre, which I love.

Wed July 10 1985 12:00:00 EST from Dr. Dealgood

Listen all! This is the truth of it. Fighting leads to killing, and killing gets to warring. And that was damn near the death of us all. Look at us now! Busted up, and everyone talking about hard rain! But we've learned, by the dust of them all... Bartertown learned. Now, when men get to fighting, it happens here! And it finishes here! Two men enter; one man leaves.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls... Dyin' time's here.

 

The rules are simple:

Two men enter, one man leaves.

Bust a deal, face the wheel.

Tue Dec 12 2023 18:42:12 EST from zelgomer

You might be the first person I've ever met who didn't consider Road Warrior to be by far the best one.

By the way, I consider Fury Road to be a rare modern sequel worthy of standing with the originals. It's at least better than Thunderdome. Also, the actor who plays the villain is the same actor who played Toecutter in the first one (different character, of course).

I liked the first max, wasn't so thrilled with the other 2.

Don't forget plant of the apes. That qualifies as post apocalyptic.   So does logans run, in a way. ( since im talking 60s and 70s movies here )

Tue Dec 12 2023 02:40:37 EST from LadySerenaKitty

I like to rewatch some of my favorite post-apoc movies just as refresher courses in case some fucknugget decides to do a global armageddon, which is extremely likely with Buyden in office.

Mad Max

Mad Max: Road Warrior

Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

Zombieland

I like to rewatch some of my favorite post-apoc movies just as refresher courses in case some fucknugget decides to do a global armageddon, which is extremely likely with Buyden in office.

Mad Max

Mad Max: Road Warrior

Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

Zombieland

Well, i guess i was wrong. I expected a mass-casualty event on the 7th.  it didnt happen. 

Not complaining, just surprised.  

Unless you get someone who is a bit off kilter, not part of the collective, and just gets pissed off enough one afternoon to say "f-it if i cant be emperor of the planet, then no one will be"..  Or is ill, about to die, and says "f-it you are all going with me".

Or accidents... Come close to that before.

Or covid v2, once released gets out of control and kills most of us..

wtf

""The Biden administration is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine. In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, defense secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don’t appropriate more money for Zelensky, “we’ll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia.” Pay the oligarchs or we’ll kill your kids," Carlson tweeted. However, his statement cannot be verified. Neither Austin, nor the Defense Department have reacted to the statement."

Of course they cant be reached for comment. 

One source -> https://www.timesnownews.com/world/defense-secretary-lloyd-austin-threatened-to-send-us-troops-to-fight-russia-if-ukraine-aid-not-sent-tucker-carlson-article-105823803

And i guess we are now getting involved in some sort of military action with Venezuela and its neighbor. 

Super.

So Brazil is going to get into its own war soon?  

Wed Nov 15 2023 14:58:21 EST from Nurb432

Don't like her a bit, but i have to give credit when its due. Killary says Hamas needs to be eliminated. Her words.

 

She is on the correct side of this issue. 

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Don't like her a bit, but i have to give credit when its due. Killary says Hamas needs to be eliminated. Her words.

She is on the correct side of this issue. 

While i dont disagree, its a far bigger problem than just those in Gaza.    That wont fix anything.   

Wed Nov 15 2023 14:05:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Peace through killing every last philistine remaining in Gaza.

Right, but creating martyrs for Iran, will escalate things even more. We lose people it pisses us off, they lose people it empowers them. 

Mon Nov 13 2023 17:26:27 EST from LoanShark

2023-11-08 20:34 from Nurb432
Well, id say that is an escalation..  "US carries out airstrikes in
eastern Syria targeting IRGC and Iranian-backed groups weapons
storage facility"

Iran groups had already been sending rockets at our bases in recent weeks. It gets kinda hard to tell who escalated whom

A bunch of civilians, a bunch of Hamas supporters, a good number of Hamas fighters, and allows the remaining Hamas to regroup.

Yes, id be all for it if it was JUST helping out civilians. But its doing just as much ( if not more ) harm by helping the enemy, and falling prey to their propaganda.  And no, there is no easy answer when you are fighting embedded terrorists. 

Mon Nov 13 2023 17:28:21 EST from LoanShark

2023-11-09 14:00 from Nurb432
They may not realize it, but Israel just caved to pressure, and just
lost the war. They have agreed to a daily 4 hour cease fire.  You
can not give your enemy time to recover like this. And that is all it
will do. 

It's a daily 4-hour humanitarian corridor and a bunch of civilians have been fleeing south under the white flag. If Israel can't do that much, they risk losing their claim to spare civilian lives.

Either it was really 3 on the story above, or we just did 3 more. Either way, some casualties.  Not many, but one is an excuse for Iran to escalate. 

I also worry about Hanukkah coming in a few weeks, as i expect another 9/11 style terrorist attack here, and in other countries, against gatherings of Jewish people. 

Ever so closer.... 

"Nov 12 (Reuters) - The United States carried out two air strikes in Syria against Iran-aligned groups on Sunday, a U.S. defense official told Reuters, in what appeared to be the latest response to a series of attacks against American forces in Syria and in Iraq.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said one of the targets was a weapons storage facility. The other was a "command and control" facility, which would suggest a headquarters or other staffed structure.

The official said the strikes took place within the past couple of hours and said a U.S. review was underway to determine whether the strikes killed or wounded any Iran-aligned militia members."

I of course was not there, but i get the impression it was more about a general apathy back then, "eh, whatever, that isn't here, its over there" ( until it was )  instead of world wide hatred/vilification + leadership caving to pressure of the hate groups.

And another ally caves to the hate mob. Instead of standing up to them and treating them like the terrorist criminals they are: "French President Macron calls on Israel to stop killing Gaza's women and babies – BBC News"

Here soon, there will be no one left n their side ( as in leadership, not 'the people', **we** support them ).  I wonder what the world is going to be like after they are gone. I fear we will see that, soon. 

They may not realize it, but Israel just caved to pressure, and just lost the war. They have agreed to a daily 4 hour cease fire.  You can not give your enemy time to recover like this. And that is all it will do. 

Well, id say that is an escalation..  "US carries out airstrikes in eastern Syria targeting IRGC and Iranian-backed groups weapons storage facility"

One source: https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/politics/us-airstrikes-eastern-syria-iran/index.html

I don't think I'd feed that poison to a dog. maybe shark food. 

Fri Nov 03 2023 09:14:28 EDT from Nurb432

Myself, id prefer to call them dog food, after they are all rounded up and executed for their crimes..

Fri Nov 03 2023 07:26:47 EDT from triLcat

So what would you call an organization that sends 2000+ armed males out with instructions to "kill, torture, rape, film it all, and  (in some cases) take prisoners" and the ones who aren't meant to take prisoners are told not to expect to come back? 

Wed Oct 18 2023 03:21:10 EDT from ScottPilgrim

 

Tue Oct 17 2023 23:18:19 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar

ProTip: whenever you hear the words "colonizers" or "apartheid" you can safely ignore the rest of what the person is saying because they are a 100% Guaranteed Moron.

A very interesting observation. I find that a similar one is that whenever someone says "terrorist" they are almost 100% guaranteed too hyped-up to say anything rational or useful. Terms that "shed heat and no light".

 

 

Mon Nov 06 2023 13:44:59 EST from darknetuser

Explain to my why the African National Congress didn't condone terror,

so there was comparatively very little terroism in SA. That's what made

peace possible. The lefties keep using it as their faulty analogy,
though.

My grandmother has a stash of relics withdrawn during a hurried escape from genodical forces, stored in her cellar. Her sister had her throat slashed. Political orgs may do and undo but you see the reality when your boots are on the ground.

In South Africa? I'm so sorry.

Tue Oct 31 2023 11:56:08 EDT from darknetuser

Europe is just a protectorate for the US, aka USA's bitch.

 

Heh, I wish.

Sorry to hear your family had to endure such horrors. 

lol

( but true )

Actually that's not what I meant. (Don't know where my brain is today) But I think you're right.

Fri Nov 03 2023 07:21:08 EDT from triLcat

oh hells to the no! we don't want 2 million radicalized Muslims added to our population! No - we gotta take over and then rebuild like the US did with Japan and Germany.

Mon Oct 09 2023 10:27:41 EDT from msgrhys

The recent Hamas terror attacks have extinguished any remaining doubt in my mind that Israel should just completely annex the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Yeah the UN will whine. So what?

 

That's what I meant.

Im perhaps 15 miles from a military base, out in the sticks. Not a well known one, but not a secrete either. it 'just is'. ( used to go the public firing range there. Was nice in the old days, didnt even have a range master at first. Just some covered tables and dirt piles to shoot at. Later a trailer showed up with a range master... Now its an actual building + fees. bla bla )

But, the last week or so LOTS of helicopters in the area.  I assume they are doing readiness training for what is coming.  In 20+ years never seen this many.

Myself, id prefer to call them dog food, after they are all rounded up and executed for their crimes..

Fri Nov 03 2023 07:26:47 EDT from triLcat

So what would you call an organization that sends 2000+ armed males out with instructions to "kill, torture, rape, film it all, and  (in some cases) take prisoners" and the ones who aren't meant to take prisoners are told not to expect to come back? 

Wed Oct 18 2023 03:21:10 EDT from ScottPilgrim

 

Tue Oct 17 2023 23:18:19 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar

ProTip: whenever you hear the words "colonizers" or "apartheid" you can safely ignore the rest of what the person is saying because they are a 100% Guaranteed Moron.

A very interesting observation. I find that a similar one is that whenever someone says "terrorist" they are almost 100% guaranteed too hyped-up to say anything rational or useful. Terms that "shed heat and no light".

 

So what would you call an organization that sends 2000+ armed males out with instructions to "kill, torture, rape, film it all, and  (in some cases) take prisoners" and the ones who aren't meant to take prisoners are told not to expect to come back? 

Wed Oct 18 2023 03:21:10 EDT from ScottPilgrim

 

Tue Oct 17 2023 23:18:19 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar

ProTip: whenever you hear the words "colonizers" or "apartheid" you can safely ignore the rest of what the person is saying because they are a 100% Guaranteed Moron.

A very interesting observation. I find that a similar one is that whenever someone says "terrorist" they are almost 100% guaranteed too hyped-up to say anything rational or useful. Terms that "shed heat and no light".

oh hells to the no! we don't want 2 million radicalized Muslims added to our population! No - we gotta take over and then rebuild like the US did with Japan and Germany.

Mon Oct 09 2023 10:27:41 EDT from msgrhys

The recent Hamas terror attacks have extinguished any remaining doubt in my mind that Israel should just completely annex the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Yeah the UN will whine. So what?

As an Israeli I must protest! The European Jugglers won't let us host the European Juggling Convention, but the world decides that we're up for hosting WW3? Like seriously?! 

Instead of smoke i vote napalm.. But ya, Israel is already being blamed and vilified, and they will be declared war criminals so what do they have to lose at this point ?   I still worry about an attrition war. They cant win that. And since we have expended so much with Ukraine, not sure we are of much help in the long run either. ( we are also vulnerable )

Sponge bombs. ( for the tunnels )

Sort of cool really...

Tell them to start in DC.

Wed Nov 01 2023 13:45:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

For the purpose of this discussion, it often is. Maybe it's time for the Roman Empire to do another Crusade.

I suspect its behind a lot of other things too, like the woke culture and other destructive ideals.  Let societies self-destruct, on their own dime.. Or at least fall apart enough to make violent take over less of a problem/cost.

Its not like the are in a hurry..  

Wed Nov 01 2023 13:45:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

For the purpose of this discussion, it often is. Maybe it's time for the Roman Empire to do another Crusade.

Isn't it always?

Tue Oct 31 2023 15:43:38 EDT from LoanShark

In other words: my read is that the core of the problem is Islamism.

Would they even allow entry?  Dont they have to take a vote?

Tue Oct 31 2023 14:26:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

I think Russia should join NATO. For the lulz.

i think the Gaza strip ground operation has started.. 

China, Iran and Russia are the New Axis, and Europe is the New Soviet Union; neither faction is truly our friend.

its not a cynical suggestion, its fact

Too much money and control to be wasted. Wars give them both.   They of course feel they are exempt from the hardship. What they dont realize is the planets dynamics are not the same as in WWII, we are NOT safe here any longer, nor are they.

Fri Oct 27 2023 12:01:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

The cynical part of me is suggesting that the folks in our part of the world *want* to start World War III.

Well, its started.

We just bombed Iranian assets in Syria.

Biden wants a '2 state solution"

f-him. 

So the UN supports Hamas.  Not real surprising, they are a scumbag outfit hell bent on world domination. 

( sorry, it YT.. im sure its other places too )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtyFCjrSU4k

For people who don't like pork, they certainly have a thing for pig-related names.  The jokes write themselves.

So pro-Hamas protesters breached the white house fence.  Why are they still alive?  There are full-time snipers on the roof, just for this reason. 

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/white-house-grounds-breached-pro-palestine-protestors-get-in-the-lawn-condemn-israel-video-article-104595501

And not directly WWIII related, i was wonding how that would work, i wish i had not looked it up. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/cyanide-bombs/

Cyanide bombs in booby trapped children's backpacks. Ya. so that is a thing for Hamas.

Nuking them is too kind, but they need to be gone. Now. Forever.

"A radical Muslim wants to cut off your head. A moderate Muslim wants a radical Muslim to cut off your head."

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one. All non-believers are not permitted to exist is the core of their cult.  And i think any that tell you its not, are lying. ( either to themselves or you ). Many say its only the 'radical branch', that actually go that far, which may be true, but even the ones that dont, are not 'good' Muslims and are at risk too.

Convert, follow, participate or die.

Mon Oct 23 2023 03:56:57 EDT from ScottPilgrim

 That's what I hear, but I'm not buying it. Sounds too... simplistic and narrative-driven in my opinion.

 

 

Sun Oct 22 2023 12:42:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

This is the problem. Islam is a violent totalitarian regime masquerading as a religion. Its mission is to kill, convert, or enslave the entire world, and its tenets openly say so.

That's what I hear, but I'm not buying it. Sounds too... simplistic and narrative-driven in my opinion.

sigh. "split apart"

( number one request for future features: Ability for us commoners who cant typo check worth a damn to be able to edit their own posts :) ) 

ya. its coming. Not looking forward to it.  We are going to be attacked from within and spill apart all at once.

i DO think we are mostly safe from external 'hard' attack on our soil like is happening in Israel now.   The ones who could do that know we would automatically strike back and wipe them away as well. ( at least until Iran gets the ability, they dont give a f if we do retaliate.. martyr mentality... they woudl be ok if they all died for the cause, as long as we all did too )

Sun Oct 22 2023 14:30:32 EDT from test2

knight orders worked well as the response. The enemy is spirit based and does attack on many fronts simultaneously. defense must be similarly organized. the west's defenses have already been broken and is on the verge of doom. mass death has already recently occurred and obscured and much more is to come before any meaningful change takes place. the US is already prepared for slaughter, it's coming. 2A and pray. your politicians and government are complicit vassals of the enemy.

 

knight orders worked well as the response. The enemy is spirit based and does attack on many fronts simultaneously. defense must be similarly organized. the west's defenses have already been broken and is on the verge of doom. mass death has already recently occurred and obscured and much more is to come before any meaningful change takes place. the US is already prepared for slaughter, it's coming. 2A and pray. your politicians and government are complicit vassals of the enemy.

Sun Oct 22 2023 12:42:02 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

It is no coincidence that there were knight orders created
specifically to fend off Islam. It is very expansive, and will stop at

nothing.

This is the problem. Islam is a violent totalitarian regime masquerading as a religion. Its mission is to kill, convert, or enslave the entire world, and its tenets openly say so.

A muslim who doesn't want to do that is a good person, but a bad muslim.

But what did you expect from a religion founded by a hallucinating warlord?

May be same story, ( busy.. ) but i heard we shot down at least 2 more rockets from 'Iran Proxies' early in the AM today. Perhaps more.

We can trace them easily, and we need to insure they cant fire any more. We can do that safely from a distance and not put boots on the ground. Quit with the pussy footing around ( sorry Kitty, you know what i mean )

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/20/iran-backed-militias-launch-rocket-and-drone-attacks-on-u-s-forces-in-iraq/

Right, leave them alone, they leave you alone. They dont care if you are friends, just as long as you are not enemies.  ( as the world should be in general )

Wed Oct 18 2023 18:27:34 EDT from darknetuser

I don't like Jews that much because they also have tribalistic tendencies, but my experience is you can actually coexist peacefully with them.

Problem we have now is that if the loonies down there take over the entire middle east, they become a direct threat to the rest of the planet. Quite unlike the old days where it was just confined to that area ( well other than gas prices )

And i guess with all that is is going on. Putin and Xi are meeting in the next day or 2.

and lol on the room name change . Preemptive? :) 

Wed Oct 18 2023 12:23:28 EDT from nonservator

If I had to choose a side, I would say that Israel is more civilized than the barbarians of Palestine. But I don't have to choose a side. They can both go to hell.

If I had to choose a side, I would say that Israel is more civilized than the barbarians of Palestine. But I don't have to choose a side. They can both go to hell.

If we are not at official war yet, i wont be surprised if we dont get a terrorist attack here in the states ( and UK ) during Hanukkah. More anti Jewish actions. 

Ya, its looking like it.

I was going to pay off my house this coming summer, i may do it earlier.   if everything collapses, at least i dont have that expense hanging over our heads, and risk of being homeless.

Wed Oct 18 2023 11:51:14 EDT from msgrhys

So WWIII might be a Christmas present, just like WWII was.

 

So WWIII might be a Christmas present, just like WWII was.

Wed Oct 18 2023 11:43:58 EDT from Nurb432

so once this turns into wwiii, do we need another room ? 

its coming im afraid.  Before the holidays. Just this morning they 'intercepted' a couple of attack drones heading to our base in Iraq..  They would not comment on where they launched from. ( of course ) Personally id say that is an act of war against us.

so once this turns into wwiii, do we need another room ? 

its coming im afraid.  Before the holidays. Just this morning they 'intercepted' a couple of attack drones heading to our base in Iraq..  They would not comment on where they launched from. ( of course ) Personally id say that is an act of war against us.

Ya and it actually annoys the hell out of me when those scumbags use it. 

I know it shouldn't, "just ignore it" like you normally do when people call you by incorrect names on purpose, but for some reason it does.

Wed Oct 18 2023 10:32:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

The use of the word "apartheid" to refer to Israel is particularly inane.

I do think terrorist can be used in correct context.  But, if its someone on the far left, ya, ignore the rest.

Tue Oct 17 2023 23:18:19 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar

ProTip: whenever you hear the words "colonizers" or "apartheid" you can safely ignore the rest of what the person is saying because they are a 100% Guaranteed Moron.

1. They aren't real palestinians.  They are more closely related to the Philistines of the Old Testament.

2. They don't need to be "freed" because they are already free.  Unless you count the people stuck there who don't side with the terrorist hamas government.

3. They have no right to exist.

ProTip: whenever you hear the words "colonizers" or "apartheid" you can safely ignore the rest of what the person is saying because they are a 100% Guaranteed Moron.

A 2nd carrier group is on its way.  WWIII next week?  Or will we make it thru Samhain first?

Seen in a couple of places:

"An Israeli reoccupation of Gaza would be a mistake, Biden says

President’s warning against retaking the enclave is one of his firmest efforts to put a limit on Israel’s actions"

So just like that, the admin flips them the bird and ends any hope for actual support. Sure, some handouts to make it look good in the media, but actual support, 'screw those Zionists". Its not even an accurate statement, it was their land until they gave it to the terrorists to use ( a mistake.. ). You dont 'occupy' your own land.  Sounds like hamas-speak to me.

No more retarded than all the normiecons who think it actually makes a difference to constantly scream NO U R DA REAL RACISS. True and irrelevant.

lol

I hear if you look up the word "morons" in a dictionary you will find this picture:

MONUMENTALLY MORONIC thing I have ever seen.

Might have been better in lobby.. donno, but it relates here too.

There is a call for "international jihad day" tomorrow. Who knows if its real and things are actually planned, or just them trying to frighten people, you know how terrorists work. However, several police departments across the country are gearing up, just in case.

I guess the message is 'stay vigilant ' and 'watch your backs'   Just in case.

I cant prove it, I think its is. "We are here to rescue you" and the Feds step in and impose all sorts of restrictions. Of course if we are all dead and in flames, its academic. They may win, but lose.

Wed Oct 11 2023 17:36:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Some pundits are saying that a massive attack on our soil is inevitable.

And even that may be part of the plan. Again ... may God have mercy upon His people.

aaand.. according to NBC ( so take it as you wish.. i have not verified yet )  Lebanon and Syria are now shooting at Israel too.  Wtf. Wtf.  

And i know i said it before, and not to diminish others there, but i do hope Tril is ok. 

For those in the US, watch your backs tomorow.

"Campus Anti-Semites Plot ‘Day Of Resistance’ In Support Of Hamas"

Source  : https://www.dailywire.com/news/campus-anti-semites-plot-day-of-resistance-in-support-of-hamas

Not that I watch news much, but i have been around this lately.

I have noticed a distinct slow change to all outlets starting to blame Israel or at least covertly condemn them for reacting. Sick really.

Total Societal Collapse.  Whether by getting Democratted or Global ThermoNUCLEAR FUCKING WAR!

Ahem.  Excuse me.  But ya, Total Societal Collapse is the end goal.

Tue Oct 10 2023 17:49:35 EDT from Nurb432

I am 100% positive this is the case. This was plan B to collapse the planet and 'take over' the chaos that is left.

What they dont count on, is there may be nothing left...

I am 100% positive this is the case. This was plan B to collapse the planet and 'take over' the chaos that is left.

What they dont count on, is there may be nothing left...

And i guess they started bombing the area. This is getting really ugly.. its going to spread to other parts of the middle east before its over. Its causing rifts in other countries.  The collapse has begun. I guess Ukraine wasn't enough, thanks Joe for funding this.  

Hope TrilCat is far far away from the mess.

Tue Oct 10 2023 12:18:51 EDT from Nurb432

"In a post on Telegram, Hamas said the residents of Ashkelon, just north of the Gaza Strip, had until 5pm local time to leave (3pm BST)."

 

And i dont say this in jest, or lightly. Israel needs to nuke these ******ers. AND Iran, for funding it. Then we need to charge all involved here in the US in funding Iran with treason. ( like that 6 billion )

"In a post on Telegram, Hamas said the residents of Ashkelon, just north of the Gaza Strip, had until 5pm local time to leave (3pm BST)."

And i dont say this in jest, or lightly. Israel needs to nuke these ******ers. AND Iran, for funding it. Then we need to charge all involved here in the US in funding Iran with treason. ( like that 6 billion )

Im not expert, but they want to remove all Israelis from the planet, expand their territory and then rename it Palestine. 

( or was that sarcasm and i missed it totally? )

Mon Oct 09 2023 12:37:33 EDTfrom LadySerenaKitty

There is no such nation as Palestine.  How does one support a place that doesn't exist?

There is no such nation as Palestine.  How does one support a place that doesn't exist?

Mon Oct 09 2023 10:29:54 EDT from Nurb432

China has just announced they are supporting Palestine 

"In response, China's foreign ministry urged in a weekend statement the "relevant parties" to remain calm and to end hostilities to protect civilians, adding that "the fundamental way out of the conflict lies in implementing the two-state solution and establishing an independent State of Palestine".

 

Ah, China, the poster boy for human rights.</sarcasm>

China has just announced they are supporting Palestine 

"In response, China's foreign ministry urged in a weekend statement the "relevant parties" to remain calm and to end hostilities to protect civilians, adding that "the fundamental way out of the conflict lies in implementing the two-state solution and establishing an independent State of Palestine".

The recent Hamas terror attacks have extinguished any remaining doubt in my mind that Israel should just completely annex the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Yeah the UN will whine. So what?

9 Americans now confirmed dead. 

Im ok with us getting involved

1. They are one of our oldest allies, we should support them.
2. While not perfect, they do represent a free society
3. they are battling common enemies, and anything that happens with them will spill over to us, especially if they fall. We need to get ahead of this
4. its our fault..  We funded this one.

"I don't give a shit about Israel or Palestine."

"Whoa, whoa, cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks!"

oooo since Iran funded and approved the attack, their leadership is 'to be taken out'.

I guess Israel declared war, spent this evening bombing the hell out of Gasa

We are sending an aircraft carrier and some destroyers....  ( which this time i DO support..  Ukraine, no, Israel, yes ).   I do wonder if this was a planned money drain however. It only happened since Dipshit in office gave out those billions to the enemies down there.. it was preventable. 

But either way, bumpy ride coming....

was reading bad things happened out there yesterday.  Major incursion. 

Great. 

Fri May 19 2023 08:44:52 PM EDT from LoanShark

2023-05-18 07:12 from Nurb432
Activitiy here made me think about it:   Not seen TrillCat for a
long time. Hope shes ok. 

She's still alive and kicking. Posting on Fuckerberg's website about 3 days ago.

It makes total sense to me, a person who believes the church was created to fleece the believers. They see $ in not excluding that demographic at this point in time.  ( i wont get into 'belief' as that is a personal choice, but i do fully hate organized religion concepts )

As far as marriage. I agree to an extent, but we need some sort of legal acknowledgement.  Mainly for the purpose of property ownership, financial liability, child custody etc. i do think that 'marriage' should be ignored by the "state" as they should not be in the business to condone, or disapprove, any religious practices like this. Instead you create a LLC.  Be it 2 people, 4, same sex, not same sex, race, bla bla dont matter. Just be of legal age and sound  mind. Treat it as any other 'legal partnership', and you do whatever you feel like for the religious side of things, be it you dress up and take your vows in front of your favorite deity, or you get naked, open your veins and share blood in front of a camp fire while chanting to the trees. 

Fri May 19 2023 04:38:08 AM EDT from darknetuser

I am so glad somebody posted this: if accepted scriptures condemn gay relation ships and the church willfully ignores them, then they are very bad at being the church.



I personally am of the opinion marriage should not be a figure recognized by the law. By the Church, yes, but if a copuple wants to be a legal unit they should be allowed to create a limited society and called Jane & John Limited Society.

Activitiy here made me think about it:   Not seen TrillCat for a long time. Hope shes ok. 

It does seem remarkable, doesn't it. 

I suspect cheating in this case.  

Not a fan of Oz either and dont trust him, but...

Thu Nov 10 2022 08:41:43 AM EST from ParanoidDelusions

Maybe there is a message in who they would RATHER have in office... a mentally impaired old man or a stroke victim - than *anyone* who claims to have an agenda of imposing their morality on strangers. 
 

 

I think it is one of the issues that drives young people out in *droves* to vote not for *their* side, but *against* us - and that is going to continue to be a huge problem that gets people like Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, and Fetterman elected to our bewilderment. 

Everyone is sitting around going, "How could those people get elected?" 

Maybe there is a message in who they would RATHER have in office... a mentally impaired old man or a stroke victim - than *anyone* who claims to have an agenda of imposing their morality on strangers. 

It is something we're going to have to face if we want to remain a viable party. 

Wed Nov 09 2022 17:49:32 EST from Nurb432

agreed

Wed Nov 09 2022 01:56:23 PM EST from ParanoidDelusions

I got back. 

Just hit Matt Walsh with this basic argument on Twitter. His fans did not care for it at all. 

"It erodes the sanctity of marriage!"

Nothing anyone else but what I or my wife does erodes the sanctity of our marriage. If the gay couple next door makes you feel that your marriage is less sanctified - that is a personal problem in YOUR marriage and its relationship with your God. 

 

 

agreed

Wed Nov 09 2022 01:56:23 PM EST from ParanoidDelusions

I got back. 

Just hit Matt Walsh with this basic argument on Twitter. His fans did not care for it at all. 

"It erodes the sanctity of marriage!"

Nothing anyone else but what I or my wife does erodes the sanctity of our marriage. If the gay couple next door makes you feel that your marriage is less sanctified - that is a personal problem in YOUR marriage and its relationship with your God. 

 

I got back. 

Just hit Matt Walsh with this basic argument on Twitter. His fans did not care for it at all. 

"It erodes the sanctity of marriage!"

Nothing anyone else but what I or my wife does erodes the sanctity of our marriage. If the gay couple next door makes you feel that your marriage is less sanctified - that is a personal problem in YOUR marriage and its relationship with your God. 

I like things being based on a flat rate consumption tax.

Agreed, government has no business supporting 'marriage' as such in ANY form. Get out of the way and just make it a simple partnership contract for tax, property ownership and liability concerns. No different than a business partnership.

Got this far and it is too late. I'll be back. 

Good stuff here - and expansion on the "what do you mean by WE" discussion that adds clarity to the point being made. I want to address that. 

But, I want to be alert and coherent when I do. 

Once the word liberty is stripped from the language, its hard to talk about and understand what it means. It becomes an abstract thought that you cant easily convey or discuss with others.

Not to dismiss the rest, as you did put a lot of effort ..  But i totally agree with this greatly, and its the one thing that most irritates me about a lot of the 'right'. 

Many of them will flat out dismiss me as 'you cant be moral or a good person, you have no god"  This is totally untrue, as i simply treat others as i want to be treated. its not a hard concept of how to be a 'good person', i just dont need the fear of angering some magical being to act 'right'. Its just the right thing to do. ( or some book to tell me how to be a good person. its really quite simple.. )

And i agree with the pieces i cut off, in that often times their 'faith' gets in the way of being a good person.  Just as much as the far left really.  Both are agendas, both are as wrong, tho for different reasons.

And also, i do agree that even several of our founders were religious, we really were not founded 'on' religion and they did try to not let their faith(s) interfere with what they were doing. They were being logical about it all and did their best to keep it out of the foundation, other than acknowledge people's right to believe and practice their own way, even if it wasn't their way...  ( and ya that pisses off far right too, if i bring that up )

Tue Apr 12 2022 06:14:46 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

A huge problem with the Right is that a lot of their planks and positions are informed by religious values - not necessarily actual *conservative* ones. 

And regarding gay WEDDINGS as a spiritual union - if a CHURCH decides to recognize the spiritual union of two members of the same sex, and that Church can be recognized as an official religion as protected under the Constitution of the United States - and your religion finds that abhorrent - all you can do about that is die mad and talk to your God about it. They're literally protected by the same CONSTITUTIONAL religious protections are your OWN religion. 

That drives me nuts... if you live in an area where the majority wants a morning prayer in the public schools - that is constitutionally protected. If you live there and don't like it - you have the constitutional right to move and find a place where the schools do not ALLOW morning PRAYER (but moments of silence that are Don't Ask/Don't Tell prayer sessions that are not mandatory are still constitutionally protected there). If you're in a PRO prayer school district, you can't be COMPELLED to take part in the prayer - but you can't disrupt ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099298016Tue, 12 Apr 2022 22:14:46 -00002099298016@Uncensored

Actually - I think I nailed it there before I logged off last time I got this far. 

I know what I am. I tend to be RIGHT leaning on the understood definition of political spectrums - though not NEARLY as Right as many on the Left perceive me. I'm a constitutional libertarian - I believe that change should be reserved and gradual - and that change isn't always PROGRESS - so it shouldn't be entertained lightly - that makes me conservative leaning on most issues. But - the actually conservative principle on abortion for example - is that we should NOT immediately overhaul abortion law. The extreme political Right is actually progressively activist on this issue in that they would enjoy overturning Roe vs. Wade overnight if they could, and damn the unforeseen consequences. Likewise, the Left is very CONSERVATIVE about things like repealing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. They think it should be left intact in perpetuity - that if it is repealed, traditional institutionalized racism would reassert al ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099295868Sun, 20 Mar 2022 07:35:45 -00002099295868@Uncensored

Made it this far before my carriage turned back into a pumpkin. I've got an F1 event to attend tomorrow, early - so... I gotta get to bed. I'll skip this room tonight and come back to it when I get a chance. 

I do have some thoughts though... 

I think that political philosophies of right and left are muddy and imprecise - and VARIED - but we all know what is MEANT when we say Far Right or Far Left, "conservative" or "liberal"... 

And so I am quickly dismissive of people who repeat the MAJORITY of talking points of one political spectrum or the other, and then take OFFENSE when someone else calls them... well, usually it is LIBERALS, progressives and collectivists/communists who DENY that is what they are - but I've seen a fair share of Republicans/Conservatives/and Fascists take offense at being labeled RIGHT wing. 

Often those people who INSIST they're not party-line Left or Right would *never* vote for the candidate they CONSIDER themselves opposed to - an ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099295460Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:28:44 -00002099295460@UncensoredRight doesn't want to alienate white nationalists.  Yeah, those 600 or so votes are critical to national elections. (By the way ... wanting to beat Whoopi Goldberg into a bloody pulp with a crowbar doesn't make you a white nationalist; it only makes you a good person who loves humanity.) ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099295456Tue, 15 Mar 2022 18:39:17 -00002099295456@Uncensored 2022-03-15 15:12 from darknetuser > > I always viewed the left as collectivism and the right as > > Historically, the Right is the political sector that wants things to >function as they have always functioned, while the Left wants to do >completely different things. That is pretty much the 18th Century >definition. > > Then "the right" is synonymous with conservative and "the left" is synonymous with progressive. In which case, I couldn't consider myself "right-leaning" or conservative because I don't want things to continue to function the way they are. And thanks for bringing up the Nolan cart, I will look into it. I have seen two dimensional political planes before, and that's kind of what I've been driving at. "Left" and "right" only potentially describe a single axis, and I don't think everyone is even on the same page about what axis we're talking about. ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099295440Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:12:11 -00002099295440@Uncensored I always viewed the left as collectivism and the right as Historically, the Right is the political sector that wants things to function as they have always functioned, while the Left wants to do completely different things. That is pretty much the 18th Century definition. ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099295439Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:10:53 -00002099295439@Uncensored 2022-03-13 18:38 from zelgomer > > 2022-03-13 17:16 from ParanoidDelusions > > > >This is denial. > > > >There is a LOT of fascism and racism in the far political right, all > > > >across the world. Everyone knows it. The moderate Right would do well > > > > This is what I'm talking about. What qualifies those people as "right >wing"? They have no political values common with me. > > I've heard the ring theory as well, and it also doesn't sit right with >me. > > > I always viewed the left as collectivism and the right as >individualism. If that's how it's defined, then nationalism, racism, >and fascism or other forms of authoritarianism are more left than they >are right. In the U.S. the Democrats describe themselves as liberals, >but they've appropriated this word. You can't be a collectivist without >infringing on individual liberties. You can't enforce equality of >outcome and claim to be a protector of equality of opportunity. > > If this view is incorrect, then collectivism/individualism must be >poorly represented by the left-right model, in which case it is >deficient and not very helpful in discussion. > > And I know I use the term "the left" a lot, even though I've tried to >stop that habit because I think it's such a meaningless term. > I suggest you familiarize yourself with the Nolan cart, according to which political ideologies are easy to classify alongside two axis: the personal freedom axis and the economic freedom axis. The personal freedom axis defines the views of the political system regarding what people can do with their personal lives. A political system can be anti personal freedom if it attempts to steal your guns away or prevent you from taking the dick you want to take in the ass. The economic freedom axis defines the view of the system regarding how it lets people manage the economy. It may be anti freedom by enforcing state monopolies, requiring the agreement of the government for Unions to sign deals and such. If you check the position of communism and fascism in any serious Nolan chart, they are very close to each other. ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099295309Sun, 13 Mar 2022 22:38:54 -00002099295309@Uncensored 2022-03-13 17:16 from ParanoidDelusions >This is denial.  > >There is a LOT of fascism and racism in the far political right, all >across the world. Everyone knows it. The moderate Right would do well This is what I'm talking about. What qualifies those people as "right wing"? They have no political values common with me. I've heard the ring theory as well, and it also doesn't sit right with me. I always viewed the left as collectivism and the right as individualism. If that's how it's defined, then nationalism, racism, and fascism or other forms of authoritarianism are more left than they are right. In the U.S. the Democrats describe themselves as liberals, but they've appropriated this word. You can't be a collectivist without infringing on individual liberties. You can't enforce equality of outcome and claim to be a protector of equality of opportunity. If this view is incorrect, then collectivism/individualism must be poorly represented by the left-right model, in which case it is deficient and not very helpful in discussion. And I know I use the term "the left" a lot, even though I've tried to stop ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=World%20War%20III?start_reading_at=2099295285Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:16:09 -00002099295285@Uncensored

This is denial. 

There is a LOT of fascism and racism in the far political right, all across the world. Everyone knows it. The moderate Right would do well to stop denying it. 

But the truth is, they know this - the margins are so slim, both sides *need* their radical extremes to win elections. You can't alienate any voting bloc, not even your lunatics. 

And then the moderates on each side use the lunatic fringe to show what their opposition "supports". 

The mainstream Left doesn't *want* to alienate AntiFA or BLM. The Right doesn't want to alienate white nationalists. 

If you meant "Both sides are bad," you wouldn't respond with rhetoric like this to my statements. 

Sat Mar 12 2022 16:55:56 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Either that or the left is lying when they define fascism to be far
right, just like they want to redefine other words in our lexicon.

The idea that fascism is far-right is a lie, just like global warming and all the other hoaxes. Everything they say is a lie, you know that by now.
Their flawed logic is something like: Mussolini was a fascist, so Hitler was a fascist too, and Hitler was also a racist, we think the political right are racists, therefore the political right are also fascists.

I personally like the example of a ring, where at the bottom, regardless of if you follow the Left arc or the Right arc, you meet authoritarianism. 

As opposed to a linear progression from Left to Right. 

But I was simplifying - so that my opponents could argue the minutia of what I said by bringing more detail into the conversation than was originally presented - thereby keeping the continuum of conversation on Uncensored flowing with passionate dialog and lots of posts. Cuz I'm just a giver. 

;) 

Sat Mar 12 2022 09:52:20 EST from zelgomer

Considering that fascism grew out of a socialist movement, I can't help but think that this left-right model is deficient at describing the full political spectrum. As I see it, fascists and communists are both authoritarian central planning, they only disagree on how to carry it out.

If the spectrum is communism on the left and fascism on the right, then my political values don't fit anywhere on this map.

Either that or the left is lying when they define fascism to be far right, just like they want to redefine other words in our lexicon.

I think the extremes in anything lie to support their agenda. 

But that isn't what he was saying. To me it was more that that all "sides" are bad. 

Fri Mar 11 2022 07:12:35 PM EST from ParanoidDelusions

OUR authoritarians simply want to do what is BEST for you, for the world, for your child, for equality, equity and liberty. 

This is a cop-out the Left started using since they went full authoritarian. It is a form of "what-about-ism". It became a very popular Leftist arguing point through 2018 to present and reached a crescendo when Trudeau decided to invoke emergency wartime powers against a bunch of dudes in semi-trucks. 

It basically says, "sure - there are some people being shits on the Left... but what about the RIGHT? We've got to keep the RIGHT trampled, because THEIR authoritarians are *fascists* who target specific people. OUR authoritarians simply want to do what is BEST for you, for the world, for your child, for equality, equity and liberty. They may be going about it wrong - but their heart is in the right place - and THAT is what matters. So, this isn't ABOUT Left/Right - it is about authoritarians, and they come in all stripes..." 


("but the worst ones are the fascist ones on the Right. Don't forget that...") 

 

Fri Mar 11 2022 13:53:42 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

It isn't about left-right anymore. Authoritarians come in all stripes.

I hate this particular brand of Leftist logic. 

"It is time for us to evolve," 

Into what? 

"A global unity of peace and compassion as defined by my political ideology and philosophy." 

But - what if I don't think this is progress? 

"Then you are part of the problem holding us back!" 

Their argument assumes the antecedent, "Liberalism is a logical evolution of human society," without ever proving it. 

Tue Feb 01 2022 21:08:34 EST from LoanShark

The stupidity will never end. The main problem I have lately is with intellectually-dishonest leftists who have tried to convince themselves that if we just do everything their way, the stupidity will end.

I talked to this one guy whose whole argument was more or less, "it's 2020! Time for this to end!"

Wrong. Change doesn't follow some predetermined monotonically-increasing-progress-clock.

 i read more rocket attacks down in that part of the world this week . Hope our friends like TrilCat are ok.

I know the stupidity will never end, but it really needs to. 

BBC been have you day covered done, me sabby keen tho, Ig! 

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin

Mon Dec 06 2021 23:30:29 EST from ParanoidDelusions

 

 A lot of non-english speaking people is amazed by some ideas English speakers have, because they have never heard them in a language they understand.

I've highlighted the US, East Coast "proper English" in this sentence, as maybe I was a bit too subtle, the first time around. 

Tue Nov 16 2021 00:40:20 EST from ParanoidDelusions

I found this particular line fairly amusing. :) 

 

 

 A lot of non-english speaking people is amazed by some ideas English speakers have, because they have never heard them in a language they understand.

Mon Nov 15 2021 11:19:20 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Well, the problem with the UK is that they speak a broken and bastardized version of English. :)

/me: Does not take the bait

I found this particular line fairly amusing. :) 

 

 A lot of non-english speaking people is amazed by some ideas English speakers have, because they have never heard them in a language they understand.

Yes they are acting like whiny pricks. 

I'm indifferent. I don't really care what you do - and I wouldn't want to be in your place - and I certainly value your presence in that region of the world as the one bright spot surrounded by and holding back endless fields of goat-shit.

I don't completely trust your aspirations on the global stage. But I'd rather be aligned with you than against you, all things considered. 

Sun Nov 07 2021 11:40:45 EST from Nurb432

I like you guys. ( if you couldn't tell ) 

Sun Nov 07 2021 10:51:07 AM EST from triLcat

Israel certainly seeks to cooperate economically and otherwise with the US.

Israeli citizens are divided on how we view the current administration, but there's certainly something to be said for the fact that where we build houses on privately owned land really isn't the business of the international community.  

 

I like you guys. ( if you couldn't tell ) 

Sun Nov 07 2021 10:51:07 AM EST from triLcat

Israel certainly seeks to cooperate economically and otherwise with the US.

Israeli citizens are divided on how we view the current administration, but there's certainly something to be said for the fact that where we build houses on privately owned land really isn't the business of the international community.  

Israel certainly seeks to cooperate economically and otherwise with the US.

Israeli citizens are divided on how we view the current administration, but there's certainly something to be said for the fact that where we build houses on privately owned land really isn't the business of the international community.  

Sort of like the UK. Sure we dont agree on everything, but i do feel we are on the same team.   And i dont have to agree with my friends 100% to still be friends, just the fundamental stuff.

And i do think the people in place like Israel, Australia, UK, etc are friends.

Now, their governments, not always.. But the people, yes.

I do agree in the principle, and while they are not 'just like us' i do think we have many compatible views, thus 'friends'. 

Sat Nov 06 2021 11:57:02 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Israel mostly seems to want to just be left alone. I don't think they're totally "on our side"... but they're on the side of "you stay over there and do your thing, we'll stay over here and do ours." 

 

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Israel mostly seems to want to just be left alone. I don't think they're totally "on our side"... but they're on the side of "you stay over there and do your thing, we'll stay over here and do ours." 

And that is good enough for me. 

Thu Nov 04 2021 11:06:07 EDT from darknetuser

For the record, I don't consider Israel friend or Ally, but anybody whose existence bothers muslim powers aroudn that area deserves a thumps up just for that.

Unfortunately a lot of people are. And its disgusting.

Personally i consider you guys friends and allies, and should be treated as such.

Wed Nov 03 2021 09:27:33 AM EDT from triLcat

 thanks. I really am not impressed with Biden - I admit that I didn't come into this term loving him. I really tried to judge him based on his accomplishments. Where Israel is concerned, he's on the wrong side of history. 

 

Sat Oct 30 2021 11:35:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

SSDD, as they say. 

Side note: for those not aware, triLcat is *in* Israel. Her perspective is valuable here.

thanks. I really am not impressed with Biden - I admit that I didn't come into this term loving him. I really tried to judge him based on his accomplishments. Where Israel is concerned, he's on the wrong side of history. 

Ah, well from that perspective, i would agree .. 

I was just thinking form the US angle, as for a while we explicitly and clearly supported them.   As we should. They are our allies, and about the only bit of free society out in that part of the world.

Perhaps, but at least the last 4 years they were supported . not criticized. 

SSDD, as they say. 

Tue May 11 2021 19:06:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

So I heard that "Palestine" bombed Israel with a bunch of rockets, and Joe Xi Biden scolded Israel and told them to stop being naughty.

The whole thing with a racial caste system, is that you wouldn't be able to escape it, let alone achieve more than someone who is in a higher racial caste than your own. 

So, Obama, Lebron, Wil Smith, and a host of other folks kind of dispute the whole idea just-by-existing. 

Mon May 10 2021 11:58:53 EDT from LoanShark

Everyone knows that the caste system in India still exists, even
though it was officially dissolved, it's still there.

I have this one friend, a Tamilian, who talks about the "racial caste system" that he believes exists in the US.


I'm just like... I dunno, man.

East Indian Asians tend to be more susceptible to it (SJWism) - and East Indian women more than the men.

You have to understand how Indians think.  It isn't racism; it is classism.

Everyone knows that the caste system in India still exists, even though it was officially dissolved, it's still there.

When an Indian living in the west meets a native westerner, they treat the westerner as "other" -- which maps to "other caste".  Anyone who has worked with Indians knows this.  They either treat you very respectfully (because they see you as a higher caste) or like garbage (because they see you as a lower caste).

And no, Israel is nothing like Japan.  Japan does not have resident terrorists who believe that Japan is "theirs".

So, this seems to be a human nature thing - which we've alluded to in this room. It breaks down along much smaller regional lines. New Yorkers think their experience with Jewish communities, or black communities, or any community, in universal throughout the United States. The people in Georgia think the same thing, as do the people in California. 

And though there may be similarities - there are so many unique factors in play between these 3 regions that the challenges and issues - and therefore solutions - are all different from region to region. 

"Because it worked here, it should work there," is a human response to many challenges, and causes a lot of human suffering. 

Wed May 05 2021 13:52:52 EDT from LoanShark

2021-05-04 20:17 from ParanoidDelusions
Guilty as charged. ;) 

On the second half - you're agreeing that the rest of the world is
actually - in fact, more racist and xenophobic than the United
States, right? 

I don't remember *dis*agreeing with that.

This is a pattern I've been increasingly aware of for a while now. America is a melting pot with classically liberal leanings. Apart from a few bigots, we're relatively comfortable with the end result of the melting pot. And I do mean "relatively"; you could point out 1,000 examples of racial conflict within the last 10 years and it wouldn't invalidate the underlying point.

Where we run into trouble is when we start projecting our values onto foreign locations & cultures that emphatically do not share them... quite the opposite.

The Soviet Union had much the same problem with projecting its values--delegitimizing and demonizing any government that wasn't a left wing socialist multicultural utopia.

Tying back to the topic of this room, which is the Israel room, the one-state utopia has already been tried, under British rule, and it failed.

Guilty as charged. ;) 

On the second half - you're agreeing that the rest of the world is actually - in fact, more racist and xenophobic than the United States, right? 

Tue May 04 2021 11:10:37 EDT from LoanShark

All this is not wrong, but it's a specifically American (dare I say Californian, LOL just teasing) perspective.

Take it to the Middle East (or, say, Japan, as you point out elsewhere) and it becomes clear that, over there, everything *is* a race and/or religion issue. Although yes, some people would be a lot more chill if some people had a lot more money and position.

So, *Asians* as a whole have been pretty resistant to SJW ideologies. Hell, the Chinese even have a word, "Baizou" to describe shallow Western Progressive identity politics. 

Part of it is that both the Chinese and Japanese are super-xenophobic and each is convinced they're the most superior culture on the planet - but because they're hyper-intelligent as societies, the kind of have the protestant value of not *talking* to inferior people about how much better they are. They *know* they are, and they know that inferior people and cultures will not be able to comprehend their inferiority. There is no value in explaining to a dumbass why he is a dumbass - he won't understand. :) 

East Indian Asians tend to be more susceptible to it (SJWism) - and East Indian women more than the men.

And yes, this girl was the kind who got off on a bit of psychological cruelness.  

The people of Japan are humble, friendly, helpful, and tolerant. They're a very service-oriented

I've got the 31 on my shoulder to prove it. ;) 

Tue May 04 2021 06:51:06 EDT from zooer

 

Mon May 03 2021 11:04:11 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

 When I was a kid, even in elementary school - black girls tended to get crushes on me.

That is because you are pretty fly for a white guy.

Mon May 03 2021 11:04:11 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

 When I was a kid, even in elementary school - black girls tended to get crushes on me.

That is because you are pretty fly for a white guy.

Interestingly, I feel like European caucasians tend to regard biracial Asians as more attractive and desirable than straight caucasians or Asians. 

I wonder if there is something psychological in the pecking order of race - because I often hear black people talk about how attractive biracial black girls are - but I tend to find they have features I find less attractive than a straight caucasian. 

And - I also, honestly - feel that my lack of attraction in general to black women is nature, not nurture or learned behavior. When I was a kid, even in elementary school - black girls tended to get crushes on me. I liked them as people - but I never had any chemistry to them. 

It amazes me that the same people who say that gay people have no choice will call you racist or say you are body shaming if you're not attracted to a particular ethnicity or a particular body type. 

I was just *born* this way. As soon as I became attracted to the opposite sex - and I became

Mon May 03 2021 22:02:54 EDT from zooer

 

Mon May 03 2021 07:26:25 PM EDT from LoanShark

 raise some teenage daughters (mother is Japanese.)

I have heard that bi-racial citizens are treated worse than gaijin are treated. 

My niece lived in Japan for a few years as a JET. (Japanese English Teacher)

Mon May 03 2021 07:26:25 PM EDT from LoanShark

 raise some teenage daughters (mother is Japanese.)

I have heard that bi-racial citizens are treated worse than gaijin are treated. 

My niece lived in Japan for a few years as a JET. (Japanese English Teacher)

Well... that is the point. It is a token effort so they can claim they're open to immigration - but their standards all but guarantee that their nation will remain homogenous. And a homogenous nation is a united nation - and a united nation reinforces cultural values - which is why EVERYONE smokes, but no one smokes on the streets, and why no one litters, even though there are garbage cans, and Tokyo is one of the only large world cities where you won't see anyone j-walking, even if the street is deserted of cars - except stupid tourists. When everyone looks alike and has the same values - it is easy to maintain cultural standards like this. Phoenix was a very clean, very ordered US metropolis. The L.A. is starting to creep in, in direct proportion to the number of Californians coming in. 

But Asians are pretty racist even as immigrants. I dated a lot of Japanese and Chinese girls growing up - and ONE of them actually told me, casually, "my dad says it is OK to date you, but never to marry som

I was pretty much OK with it, too - and they were always nice, polite and generous with me to my face. Of course, because I am a straight white male I can't feel discrimination or racism... so... there was always that. 

:) 

Mon May 03 2021 19:26:25 EDT from LoanShark

2021-05-03 19:07 from ParanoidDelusions
Japan's social system is racist AF by Western standards. 

And... it is *idyllic* with a super strong sense of national identity

and people fully invested not just in themselves, but their culture.

The worst part of visiting Tokyo is the realization that it is
unattainable for a gaijin - because if they accepted you, it erodes
the very quality that makes it so attractive. 

I visited Tokyo in 2009 if I remember correctly. Met up with a rock climber guy who is well-known on an East Coast climbing forum out here. At the time he'd been living out there long enough to raise some teenage daughters (mother is Japanese.)

The daughters went to an International School.

And him -- he's a lawyer I think. An American expat. Worked for corporations in JP for 20 years or more I guess. But the process is not easy. You have to pass language tests, and they are not easy. If there aren't any de jure ethnicity limitations on immigration, this is a de facto one, like a test that's designed to be hard.

He's back in NYC now. I haven't asked for details but I have to assume he got divorced and came back to America.


So attainable, then then, in the long term NOT attainable, know what I mean?

Japan's social system is racist AF by Western standards. 

And... it is *idyllic* with a super strong sense of national identity and people fully invested not just in themselves, but their culture. The worst part of visiting Tokyo is the realization that it is unattainable for a gaijin - because if they accepted you, it erodes the very quality that makes it so attractive. 

And Japan is pretty much "NO" on changing this about their society. They just are very quiet and hope to get ignored in their practice of this totally isolationist, xenophobic social order. No refugees, no immigrants... they'll make little token efforts to act like they're with the program - but they're not, at all. And it works *brilliantly* for their society. They think they're better than all the other cultures of the world. 

And they probably are. 

They make Israel look like a blended state full of western style tolerance and diversity values, for sure. 

I was on the subway,

Mon May 03 2021 17:24:14 EDT from LoanShark

I'm with triL on this.

I have no malice towards PD just because he thinks the apartheid comparison is apt. Because he has no malice towards Israel. PD, your worldview is somewhat accepting of bare-knuckle politics. You're like, if I may paraphrase, "Israel has an apartheid-like system, but they can do that. That's life."

And that is exactly the point.

Japan is full of Japanese, and I can tell you from experience travelling there, that they do not treat gaijin fairly at all times and in all contexts. But we don't call them an apartheid state.

Ireland is full of Irish, and they have an immigration policy that explicitly favors the return of ethnic Irish, but we don't call them an apartheid state.

Italy is full of Italians, and they have an immigration policy that explicitly favors the return of ethnic Italians, but we don't call them an apartheid state.

Meanwhile, the UN member nations that voted for the UN

But, I'm fully behind the Jews running the entire Middle East. All we need to do is to have the Arab/Muslim States try to invade again, get their asses kicked, and lose more territory. 

You would think after the 6 day war, the Middle East would have learned their lesson. 

😂😂

The Jews don't run the United States - just Hollywood. ;) 

Sat May 01 2021 18:55:04 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Andrew Klavan was right: the entire middle east should just be one big Israel.

Andrew Klavan was right: the entire middle east should just be one big Israel.

Potentially more troubling than being an APARTHEID state is the tendency of a State that identifies as the State of a RELIGIOUS tradition to be biased toward becoming a theocracy - especially if its orthodox members get their way. It is a question that obviously is a reoccurring theme when discussing Israel. 


If the United States *DID* identify as a SPECIFIC Christian Nation, a singular Christian nation - one with a national, unified Church - the rest of the world would become obsessed with the fear of the United States becoming a theocracy ruled by fundamentalists. There are hugely profitable fictional stories exploring the concept - and they don't paint the outcome of such a development in a positive light. 

Iran is basically a theocracy with the guise of a Democracy wrapped around it. 

Additionally If Israel is a secular nation - there would be no reason for it to identify as a JEWISH Nation. 

Many of the points that apply to Israel in a discussion