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[#] Wed Aug 12 2020 07:49:36 EDT from zooer

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Your daughter is 15, don't wish for Grandchildren yet.



[#] Wed Aug 12 2020 19:11:36 EDT from LoanShark

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2020-08-11 17:45 from IGnatius T Foobar
My daughter is 15 and she isn't into boys yet.  She wants to be a
crazy cat lady.  This bothers me a lot.  I want grandchildren.


When I was about 20-21, I hung out a lot with this girl, about 18-19, from my high school. She was absolutely adamant that she did not want kids. (The subject would come up when her family would challenge her about the tattoo near her belly: "how is that going to look after you have stretch marks? She would respond by saying she'd never had kids.)

I am connected with her on Facebook, so we keep in touch in a very slightly way, but I don't know all the details of her life because it wouldn't be appropriate to ask. But I think what happened is, she didn't have kids, but she's lived with guys who did, and really loves them.

What I'm saying is just this: don't worry too much; people find joy in different ways.

[#] Wed Aug 12 2020 19:17:45 EDT from LoanShark

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* that and most likely, if she's 15, she'll be into boys pretty soon (or already is and won't disclose, haha), and pretty soon you'll be standing out there with a shotgun. enjoy it while it lasts

[#] Wed Aug 12 2020 20:27:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I suspect you're right, and I hope you're right. And from a completely selfish perspective, this is more about my joy than hers, and I want a big downline family.

I do think that at some point people get hit with a biological mandate to procreate, and hopefully that will happen to her.

[#] Sun Aug 23 2020 12:34:10 EDT from triLcat

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So my daughter tells me she thinks she's bi, and I get a little sad, but assure her I'll love her and whoever she ends up with. 

Then her best friend, who I totally see as an extra daughter, tells me she thinks she's bi, and she can't tell her parents, and I'm thinking omg, she'd be such an awesome daughter-in-law... ;)

 

They're 13, so I don't know how much any of it means.

 



[#] Sun Nov 08 2020 17:00:51 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Sun Aug 23 2020 12:34:10 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

So my daughter tells me she thinks she's bi, and I get a little sad, but assure her I'll love her and whoever she ends up with. 

Then her best friend, who I totally see as an extra daughter, tells me she thinks she's bi, and she can't tell her parents, and I'm thinking omg, she'd be such an awesome daughter-in-law... ;)

 

They're 13, so I don't know how much any of it means.

 



Being queer or TG or non-binary or some element of this is the new edgy for the kids who don't fit into traditional scenes. It is Gen Z's version of punk rock, because it is about the ONLY thing that makes their pierced, tatted, Gen X parents a little uncomfortable - and that we don't completely understand, as a group. 

Some of them really *are* - more kids are comfortable coming out, younger, about these things than ever before. But a lot of them are wearing it the same way my generation wore their mohawk and multiple piercings. 

 



[#] Thu Dec 17 2020 07:02:26 EST from zooer

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There are no more snow days, students are remote learning as it is so they have eliminated snow days.



[#] Thu Dec 17 2020 14:54:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I had assumed the same thing. But we got a big snowstorm last night and our schools are closed -- no on-site learning, no remote learning, it's truly closed. The classic joy of a snow day still lives.

[#] Sat Nov 19 2022 15:03:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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"You're young enough for me to smack you, and old enough to know that CPS isn't a good alternative."

-- me, to the little princess, today

[#] Tue Nov 22 2022 00:18:02 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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My kid once threatened to call CPS on me when she was just getting into her entitled woke phase - for yelling at her about something. 


I handed her the phone and smiled. 

She never played that card again. 



[#] Tue Nov 22 2022 08:07:32 EST from Nurb432

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Not to get too far into the weeds. but i had an ex call on a current wife at the time. ( not to be mean or cause problems for fun, but out of concern ). They never even bothered to call. I found out years later when we were having dinner.  "I'm curious, did anyone call you back in summer of.. bla bla".

Around here they used to post yearly stats of how many children under their "care" that they lost.  And they were ( perhaps still are ) one of the largest staffed agencies we have at the state. One of the least effective.

Tue Nov 22 2022 12:18:02 AM EST from ParanoidDelusions

My kid once threatened to call CPS on me when she was just getting into her entitled woke phase - for yelling at her about something. 


I handed her the phone and smiled. 

She never played that card again. 



 



[#] Tue Nov 29 2022 14:15:43 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yeah. Once they understand the kind of things that would happen if CPS got involved, they generally back off on that idea for good.

My daughter is 17 and she's getting a bit more mouthy than she was before.
At some point I'm just going to haul off and whack her.

[#] Tue Nov 29 2022 14:59:54 EST from darknetuser

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2022-11-29 14:15 from IGnatius T Foobar
Yeah. Once they understand the kind of things that would happen if CPS

got involved, they generally back off on that idea for good.

My daughter is 17 and she's getting a bit more mouthy than she was
before.
At some point I'm just going to haul off and whack her.



When one of my darlings missbehaves, I pick an apple and slice it and give a piece to another horse. If she keeps rebellious I tell her she is not having any apple until she is a good girl again. It works like a charm every time XD

[#] Wed Nov 30 2022 21:07:17 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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...and then you nail her shoes on. Child abuse!!

[#] Thu Dec 01 2022 12:10:47 EST from darknetuser

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2022-11-30 21:07 from IGnatius T Foobar
...and then you nail her shoes on. Child abuse!!



Funy enough, most of my girls are not horseshoed. There is not much of a need for horseshoes when they do zero work.

[#] Wed Dec 21 2022 09:34:59 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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You keep them as pets and don't ride?

[#] Mon Dec 26 2022 06:02:08 EST from darknetuser

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2022-12-21 09:34 from IGnatius T Foobar
You keep them as pets and don't ride?



Right on.

You could say my fourth job is collecting horses nobody else wants heh. I love being horse-hugged and horse-kissed and horse-lovely-brutalized every morning, but I don't care for riding. I had a devastating experience riding once and I don't feel positive about it anymore.

[#] Mon Dec 26 2022 07:22:41 EST from Nurb432

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it wasn't bad' but last time i rode a horse ( when i was a kid, i would feel bad for sticking a 190 pound weight on an animal's back ) i had spent the early part of the summer on a boat down on the canals in Florida. 

If you have not driven a boat, you learn to turn before you actually want to turn.   Was coming up on a huge bush/tree and i turned early just out of instinct.  Of course the horse turned THEN and walked right into the tree. Nose right up to the trunk then stopped. I about came off from the branches.

No, i didnt get mad at the horse as his pilot was a dumb-ass, and i did apologize as he backed out. I think he was ok with it since no one got hurt.

 

Had one step on my foot once another summer when i was out at the farm taking care of the animals. For some odd reason i instinctively curled my toes as he did, i didnt even realize it happened until i tried to move and he was on the toe of my shoe.. 

Mon Dec 26 2022 06:02:08 AM EST from darknetuser
2022-12-21 09:34 from IGnatius T Foobar
You keep them as pets and don't ride?



Right on.

You could say my fourth job is collecting horses nobody else wants heh. I love being horse-hugged and horse-kissed and horse-lovely-brutalized every morning, but I don't care for riding. I had a devastating experience riding once and I don't feel positive about it anymore.

 



[#] Mon Dec 26 2022 15:21:48 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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If you have not driven a boat, you learn to turn before you actually
want to turn.   Was coming up on a huge bush/tree and i turned

I grew up around boats and haven't had that experience, but I have one similar.
Every summer when our gang goes out to the shore we usually spend an afternoon powering around on "personal watercraft" (Sea Doo) which have no rudders.
You have to put power into a turn or it simply doesn't turn. After doing that for a while ... well, let's just say driving home is quite the experience when you get back into a vehicle that *does* have regular steering and you have to get re-adjusted to slowing down for turns.

[#] Tue Jul 18 2023 12:05:06 EDT from nonservator

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"Yes, children often, maybe even 'usually' rebel against their parents, and the values of their parents. But what is different about our modern era, is that there is an entire skill set that has been developed to facilitate the exploitation of that rebellion."



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