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[#] Wed Jan 06 2016 13:35:52 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hmm... whichever president had the bright idea to open the federal armory to local police forces (ostensibly to protect the citizenry from terrorism) deserves the blame for this.

I don't know if that's Obama or Bush, but one of them deserves the blame.
It feels more like a Bush thing to me, though, considering how long the problem has been going on, but I could be wrong.

Leave military weaponry in the capable handles of militaries. Civilian weaponry is appropriate for policemen, or at least something of a grade that they can understand and work with that doesn't involve getting jumpy and blowing the shit out of some guy who sneezed inappropriately.

[#] Wed Jan 06 2016 22:00:47 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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All the police officers I know try their hardest to be friendly with kids.  There always seem to be shithead parents out there who think it's funny to tell a cop "go ahead, scare the crap out of 'em" and the parent usually gets a talking-to.  You don't want that, they're told.  You want kids to trust that a police officer can be their best source of help when they're in trouble and a parent isn't nearby.

Yes, there are asshole cops.  But to teach kids that all police are bad is a recipe for disaster.



[#] Sun Jan 10 2016 02:13:35 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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I agree I.G., but I am not saying that, exactly.  It would seem that things have blown up beyond a point where you can paint a black or white situation with a run in with the law (no pun intended).

I understand the militarization of the police, but I think (it) stems from some sort of fear that was at the tail end of my childhood that I just have not figured out yet.  



[#] Sun Jan 24 2016 23:16:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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My teenager is monopolizing the landline. Didn't that go out of style decades ago?

[#] Mon Jan 25 2016 09:16:53 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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He is a hipster.



[#] Mon Jan 25 2016 15:01:10 EST from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Just put a label on the landline handset.
"Line Monitoring by NSA/CIA/FBI/DNC"
That should do it.

[#] Mon Jan 25 2016 15:24:10 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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ah, in the US you don't have ISDN?



[#] Tue Jan 26 2016 12:36:17 EST from vince-q @ Uncensored

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I'm not sure if ISDN is still available to 'the public.'
It was very much "on its way out" back in 2001 when we moved from NJ to CA.
And, truth be told, even in its "heyday" it was not very popular.

[#] Tue Jan 26 2016 13:50:07 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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ISDN is deprecated by Verizon.

My father lost his ISDN and regrets it. He was grandfathered in, but did something to drop the grandfathering, and so lost it.

You can't get it anymore, not even professionally, here in the US. At least, not unless you're willing to pay something absolutely ridiculous, such that you'd be better off with a more conventional fibre connection or something.

[#] Tue Jan 26 2016 17:12:15 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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yea, the infrastructure is being given the boot over here too - I've been told later this year by telecom employees. You usually terminate it at fritzboxes nowadays, which translate it to voip.

 



[#] Wed Jan 27 2016 12:25:36 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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ah, in the US you don't have ISDN?

I have fiber directly into my home. No need for ISDN :)

[#] Wed Jan 27 2016 14:11:51 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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but why do you then only have "one landline" ?



[#] Wed Jan 27 2016 19:05:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's the standard setup in the US.  Since we went directly from POTS to broadband, pretty much skipping ISDN in the consumer market, no one ever got used to having more than one simultaneous call path.

It's ok, we have unlimited calling on that line, so he can use it all day if he wants to.



[#] Thu Jan 28 2016 02:53:48 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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heh, yes. once you get used to have more than one person phoning... its hard to think about what else.

but, to be honest, I don't use phones very much, and only have ISDN since my Eurit 30 ISDN phone is still around.



[#] Mon Feb 01 2016 14:27:07 EST from Shazam @ Uncensored

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My 13 year old is on the phone all the time when he's home. Usually while he's playing Minecraft, and he's talking to the same boy he is chatting with. 
I am applying to high schools for him now, he doesn't even seem to care where he goes, as long as it's not far away like his older brother, because if he can't come home every night, it would really cut into his playing time. 



[#] Mon Feb 15 2016 14:50:01 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Honestly I don't mind him using the phone all the time.  He doesn't play Minecraft, but my daughter does.  She's just about 11 years old.  And she's a hormonal psychopath right now.



[#] Mon Feb 15 2016 20:39:00 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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My daughter is 15.  Fun times.  They boy (now 13) has no concept of how to call a friend.  If plans to do something are not discussed at the lunch table at school, it won't happen.  It might not even happen in that case either as they don't know how to change a plan if school is not in session.



[#] Tue Feb 16 2016 08:39:01 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So it's not just my kids that are boneheads?



[#] Wed Feb 17 2016 22:36:35 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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 I think I learned my best friends phone number about the age of 15 or 16, so no, not too far from my experience I am afraid.



[#] Wed Mar 02 2016 08:53:44 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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While growing up did you experience any social experiments by the public school system?  The other day I was watching a video and the guy talked about how the desks in one grade's classroom were not arranged in rows but were in groups.  Six desks next to each other, and three desks faces those desks. I remember this as a kid but I thought it was one teacher's idea.  I had also heard about open room classrooms where there were some kid of dividers but not a wall between the classes, other wise it was a large open room.

I remember taking these tests were we poke each other and a testing sheet about what we liked.  It was one of those we are going to find out what you want to do when you grow up by giving you choices as a child.   I remember vague questions such as "Would you rather be outside or in an office?"  

What strange ideas do you remember from public education?

 

At one time they said we would need to learn this strange and odd thing called "The metric system" because we would be switching over to it.  We had to start learning it, and then that idea just stopped.  They changed a few signs on the thruway from miles to kilometers around the same time.  I don't remember the reason why they stopped teaching it.

 



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