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[#] Thu Oct 08 2020 20:53:15 EDT from zooer

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Yes, he played guitar for MJ.

 

Do you like The Who?  How about Townsend on acoustic guitar and Daltry on vocals in front of a small audience?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94jVZHHdH3o



[#] Sat Oct 10 2020 13:16:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Eddie was an iconic guitar virtuoso, but it was David Lee Roth who really gave the band its character.



[#] Sat Oct 10 2020 13:43:56 EDT from darknetuser

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Nah, zooer, I am not a The Who fan.

I am more of a Heavy Metal darknetuser.

[#] Thu Dec 24 2020 18:41:37 EST from nonservator

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The Vandals, "If the Government Could Read My Mind" (1998):

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhiWc99KrLg

 

 



[#] Mon Jan 11 2021 20:49:48 EST from zooer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVVzidSdRXE
She's Drunk All The Time - Tim Timebomb and Friends



[#] Sat Jan 16 2021 16:01:49 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Today, someone claimed that Bon Jovi is equal to or better than Pink Floyd.

I think we can all agree it's time to shut down the Internet. All of it.

[#] Sat Jan 16 2021 16:18:17 EST from zooer

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You can probably have a liberal democrat as your friend, but I wouldn't be friends with anyone who thinks that.



[#] Sat Jan 16 2021 19:55:11 EST from LoanShark

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Pink Floyd is just fine except for that whole Roger Waters business.

[#] Sat Jan 23 2021 05:03:14 EST from arabella

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Pink Floyd is just fine if you ignore that whole Roger Waters business


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[#] Sat Jan 23 2021 13:12:55 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well yes, and I seem to be more vulnerable to the whole "stop liking the art when you don't like the artist" business than most people ... so I *should* be done with Floyd at this point, but it holds on.

[#] Sun Jan 24 2021 11:18:33 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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I have mixed results with that. I've got a few levels of response. 

If the art is still good, and the artist offends me by starting to use their fame as a platform to try and preach their ideologies or politics - then it is free game. Piracy is social protest. They should not just have reduced sales - they should see negative growth. 

If the art is still good, and the artist speaks up about their personal philosophies, ideologies, and politics that I disagree with - but they're respectful that there are other opinions in the world, I may still support them. 

If the art starts to reflect their activism and they are outspoken opponents of my ability to hold a differing view - for example, Stephen King - not only do I stop purchasing anything they might profit from, and reject all of their art as a whole - but I harass them online every opportunity I get. 

 

Sat Jan 23 2021 13:12:55 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
Well yes, and I seem to be more vulnerable to the whole "stop liking the art when you don't like the artist" business than most people ... so I *should* be done with Floyd at this point, but it holds on.

 



[#] Mon Jan 25 2021 11:54:22 EST from LoanShark

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Have you ever been to a Roger Waters/ The Wall concert? His personal ideology is woven throughout the light show; it becomes impossible to separate the artist from the art, as a purely logical matter. I still like some of his music.

[#] Mon Jan 25 2021 12:17:39 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I've seen Roger over a dozen times.... Always a great show, but his politics are such a turn off.

[#] Tue Jan 26 2021 11:38:20 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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I've never cared enough about the two to draw a separation from who is who. Which one is Pink? 

But anyhow - I saw them at the Oakland Coliseum at some point in the 90s, when they were playing very "Yuppie with a beard in a suit" grown up rock. From the Division Bell tour/album - I guess. They had giant inflatable pigs around the outside of the Coliseum. 

Looking it up, that is a David Gilmour version... I've since decided that I'm more of a fan of the older stuff - but even there, they're something of a pretentious band. Great guitar - I also love a lot of the themes - but I feel like they're the kind of musicians who think they're far more enlightened about *everything* than *anyone* else. 

 

 

 

Mon Jan 25 2021 11:54:22 EST from LoanShark

Have you ever been to a Roger Waters/ The Wall concert? His personal ideology is woven throughout the light show; it becomes impossible to separate the artist from the art, as a purely logical matter. I still like some of his music.

 



[#] Tue Jan 26 2021 12:25:11 EST from zooer

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Gilmour is pretty laid back.

Waters thinks his lyrics fell from the sky.



[#] Wed Jan 27 2021 10:58:46 EST from darknetuser

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2021-01-23 13:12 from IGnatius T Foobar
Well yes, and I seem to be more vulnerable to the whole "stop liking

the art when you don't like the artist" business than most people ...

so I *should* be done with Floyd at this point, but it holds on.



I don't stop liking the art but I surely stop funding it.

I don't pay anything to people who hates me. They already have power enough as it is.

[#] Wed Jan 27 2021 12:29:17 EST from LoanShark

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the themes - but I feel like they're the kind of musicians who think
they're far more enlightened about *everything* than *anyone* else. 

BUT WE'RE PSYCHEDELIC PROG-ROCKERS SO WE UNDERSTAND THE DEEP TRUTHS

[#] Wed Jan 27 2021 12:50:26 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Piracy is social protest. Don't give them money... actually take it out of their pocket if you can. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nelsongranados/2015/12/03/how-piracy-hurts-the-filmmakers-and-artists-you-admire/?sh=11876ca74554

"It harms you financially? Good. Stop being a tool, and I'll stop hurting you." 

 

Wed Jan 27 2021 10:58:46 EST from darknetuser
2021-01-23 13:12 from IGnatius T Foobar
Well yes, and I seem to be more vulnerable to the whole "stop liking

the art when you don't like the artist" business than most people ...

so I *should* be done with Floyd at this point, but it holds on.



I don't stop liking the art but I surely stop funding it.

I don't pay anything to people who hates me. They already have power enough as it is.

 



[#] Wed Jan 27 2021 12:52:50 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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I would love to see a movement start to literally promote piracy as a weapon of war against our ideological adversaries. This is not unprecedented. One nation's "pirate" was another's "patriotic privateer". 


Drake hounded the Spanish, disrupted their trade supplies and targeted their merchants mercilessly to disrupt their economy. The entertainment and media industries need to face modern day Drakes. 



 

Wed Jan 27 2021 12:50:26 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Piracy is social protest. Don't give them money... actually take it out of their pocket if you can. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nelsongranados/2015/12/03/how-piracy-hurts-the-filmmakers-and-artists-you-admire/?sh=11876ca74554

"It harms you financially? Good. Stop being a tool, and I'll stop hurting you." 

 

 


[#] Wed Jan 27 2021 13:04:22 EST from zooer

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Wed Jan 27 2021 12:50:26 PM EST from ParanoidDelusions

Piracy is social protest. Don't give them money... actually take it out of their pocket if you can. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nelsongranados/2015/12/03/how-piracy-hurts-the-filmmakers-and-artists-you-admire/?sh=11876ca74554

"It harms you financially? Good. Stop being a tool, and I'll stop hurting you." 

 

Wed Jan 27 2021 10:58:46 EST from darknetuser
2021-01-23 13:12 from IGnatius T Foobar
Well yes, and I seem to be more vulnerable to the whole "stop liking

the art when you don't like the artist" business than most people ...

so I *should* be done with Floyd at this point, but it holds on.



I don't stop liking the art but I surely stop funding it.

I don't pay anything to people who hates me. They already have power enough as it is.

 



Roger Water's father was a card-carrying communist. Roger is a far-left socialist. 
He gets upset that is music is passed around for free.  I thought that was the idea. 



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