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[#] Mon Sep 22 2014 23:38:12 EDT from ax25

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What, no "Hi mom" messages?  I zone out and view them all in a daze like viewing the screen in The Matrix movie and just perk up for the interesting bits.  Don't yet have 2012 in production, but that sounds less interesting than the installing update 12 of 20102120 of 2008 server.



[#] Tue Sep 23 2014 06:41:29 EDT from fleeb

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As an OS boots, I like to watch the messages for anything that stands out.
They can hint to other problems.

[#] Tue Sep 23 2014 21:37:19 EDT from vince-q <vince-q@ns1.netk2ne.net>

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Sep 23 2014 3:41am from fleeb @uncnsrd (Uncensored)

As an OS boots, I like to watch the messages for anything that stands

out.
They can hint to other problems.



Heh. Then nothing beats linux, where you can watch the boot process, one line of the script at a time!!!

[#] Tue Sep 23 2014 22:16:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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If they want a pretty splash screen that's fine, but:

1. Make the ESC key work to switch from the splash to an actual boot progress screen

2. *Animate* the damn thing so we know it didn't hang!

[#] Tue Sep 23 2014 23:50:44 EDT from ax25

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Or allow you to go to a different vt to watch the "hi mom" messages.  I could live with that.



[#] Wed Sep 24 2014 04:49:55 EDT from the_mgt

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As if a more verbose windows server boot screen would shed any light on any problem....

"Unpredicted Error in Module 0x000666823892 due to malformed 0x3993493934. Please reboot or contact your system administrator."

 

And of course the error code is generated randomly and will never be the same, even if you reboot and it hangs at the same place. Or it is non-random, but also without meaning, so nobody else on the internet got it. Or, if they had it, 12 people will give you 25 explanations and "solutions", which are all garbage and do not work in your case. They can stick their verbosity up their arses until they choke on it.



[#] Wed Sep 24 2014 07:49:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Nobody did crash screens quite like Commodore. When the Amiga crashed, you got that famous "Guru Meditation" box.

Now that was a random hex address I didn't mind seeing.

[#] Wed Sep 24 2014 14:14:59 EDT from vince-q <vince-q@ns1.netk2ne.net>

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Instead of all the bitching and moaning about Micro$lop, why not just switch to linux and be *done* with it!?!?!?

I know, I know, I know.

"I can't do that because I simply *must* be able to use [insert your favorite WinBlowz-based slopware here].

Solution:

1. install your favorite flavor of linus
2. once up and running on-net, grab VirtualBox from the oracle site and install that.
3. install WinBlowz in a virtual box.
4. Done. You now have the best of operating systems and the ability to visit Micro$lop Hell whenever you want - without the worry of Micro$lop trashing the machine. If that happens, it is a VIRTUAL BOX - just delete and reinstall.

[#] Wed Sep 24 2014 15:20:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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"I can't do that because I simply *must* be able to use [insert your

favorite WinBlowz-based slopware here].

Any program that only runs on WinBlowz isn't worth running.

That having been said, my "daily driver" is configured exactly as you describe.

[#] Wed Sep 24 2014 20:38:24 EDT from vince-q <vince-q@ns1.netk2ne.net>

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That having been said, my "daily driver" is configured exactly as you

describe.



As will the new machine I will be building in early December. The *only* thing that I use that absolutely requires Micro$lop is my music composing software. Everything else I do exists on linux. So it will be a virtualBox for music writing and that's about it.

[#] Thu Sep 25 2014 10:41:51 EDT from dothebart

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as I mentioned earlier I made the mistake to try out the oracle FS which turned out to be a desaster.

the vm wouldn't deliver proper audio anymore, it would freeze every now and then while doing a phone call.

re-formatting to ext4 fixed the problem.

Next problem is, howto get the VM-Image if you're bound to use a company pre-built windows, if it has to authenticate to the domain etc. etc.

But work at gemalto could be effectively described as Yak-shaving with long delays for each step of the process...



[#] Thu Sep 25 2014 10:42:50 EDT from dothebart

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so not being bound to "security to be free" (the company slogan) anymore is a big relief in every aspect.



[#] Fri Sep 26 2014 01:57:54 EDT from ax25

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dothebart,

How to they get you the "golden image" to install?  If it comes on dvd, just install from that to your vm.  If it is an iso, just install the vm from that.  I would think they would need a mac address to work from, so you could use Libvir / KVM / Qemu to have things stable enough to have a portable vm (albeit in xml format - yuck).



[#] Fri Sep 26 2014 05:22:51 EDT from dothebart

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I don't know and I don't care anymore.

no more security to be free for me.



[#] Sat Sep 27 2014 14:40:32 EDT from the_mgt

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On linux (and OSX), most of the time I try wine first. There is really a wide range of programs which actually run fine with it. The only times I really need a windows is for administering my Samba4 Active Directory Server and when I use the historical-critical edition of the almost complete works of Nietzsche. It is a 16bit application and it does run in Wine, but it crashes when I want to copy some text from it and the copied text does not go to the clipboard. I know that there are other Nietzsche tools, but this one is based on the Colli/Montinari stuff, so I dare to quote it for university papers.

Oh, and some telephone systems have win-only configuration software.

Nota bene: Never try to attempt a firmware flash for a mobile phone via usb connected to a VM, at least not with virtualbox. It might brick your phone.

vince-q: What is your composing software? I heard there is a lot of music/audio software on linux, a friend of mine used some of it with joy.

http://linux-sound.org/distro.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosegarden and for the lulz http://www.ap-linux.com

There was a commercial livecd which was meant to be a whole preconfigured musicstudio, but I forgot the name. It was in the pre-ubuntu days, maybe it is dead now.



[#] Sat Sep 27 2014 16:48:38 EDT from vince-q <vince-q@ns1.netk2ne.net>

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vince-q: What is your composing software? I heard there is a lot of
music/audio software on linux, a friend of mine used some of it with
joy.


It's a thing called Noteworthy Composer.
They have a web site.
I like it and it's what I've taken the time to learn thoroughly. I am not willing to do that with others, even though there are many people that rightly claim them to be superior.

Noteworthy allows me to concentrate on what I want to do - write music - without having to have a "geek side" handy to keep it working.

And as far as I know, it requires Windows. I'm sure it will run in a VirtualBox and do not want to fool with WinE.

[#] Sun Sep 28 2014 04:05:42 EDT from the_mgt

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I can totally understand the "My workflow is perfect with this software" argument. Probably one of the reasons many people do not want to switch to linux.

The NoteWorthy Composer looks "simple" enough to be run in wine, though. It doesn't seem to depend on too many system components, etc.

AppDB from WineHQ says "silver" or "gold" compatibility: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=831



[#] Tue Sep 30 2014 14:49:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yowza! The "Sconfig" utility *almost* makes Windows Phone Server 2012 configurable without wanting to kill myself.

[#] Fri Oct 03 2014 11:39:33 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Applying 25637 updates so I can get my 'doze VM booted just to open a f***ing Visio document. Where's a 15 megaton thermonuclear weapon when you really need one?

[#] Fri Oct 03 2014 11:49:01 EDT from fleeb

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You don't use Wine?

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