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[#] Tue Oct 01 2013 14:05:53 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Mon Sep 30 2013 04:15:25 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
I suppose the question "how may I use the wrong tool for the job" is to be expected in a Micro$oft room :)

Why do you think I posted it here instead of Workplace?  ;-)

 

Fleebs - thanks.  Yes, fully synchronized, sadly.

Bart, will re-suggest open ssl, but my understanding is that it got shut down already more than once.

 

Fubargarten M$......



[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 07:41:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Some people cannot be helped :)

[#] Tue Oct 08 2013 21:52:20 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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*laughs*

Ultimately, it was discovered that Adobe Updater had failed - and the way it failed completely b0rked SCUP.  Sad.



[#] Wed Oct 09 2013 07:55:17 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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The Adobe Updater probably failed because of over work. It uses more processing power than any of the Adobe
software.

[#] Wed Oct 09 2013 10:23:17 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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http://www.lhotka.net/weblog/DoesNETHaveAFuture.aspx

enjoy!

(most probably that blog is this fast, because of it was implemented in see-carpet by a senior developer *cough*)



[#] Wed Oct 09 2013 16:58:20 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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According to him, c++ became obsolete decades ago.

So, I guess I'm a dynosaur.

[#] Wed Oct 09 2013 17:01:41 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Oh, and to emphasize how ridiculous he is, he later writes:

"In this environment Objective C, Java, and .NET (along with C++) all have a bright future."

So, C++, an obsolete language, has a bright future in consumer apps.

Clearly, he can't find his brain for all the shit in his head.

[#] Wed Oct 09 2013 23:56:36 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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I don't find it all that full of sh@t.  He has followed some lesser tech and coding.  You must admit that in reading that scribe that he has cataloged it well.  The detail is there, and the forward momentum of his predictions far outweigh Gartner or other "think tanks".



[#] Thu Oct 10 2013 04:11:44 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Wed Oct 09 2013 17:01:41 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

Oh, and to emphasize how ridiculous he is, he later writes:

"In this environment Objective C, Java, and .NET (along with C++) all have a bright future."

So, C++, an obsolete language, has a bright future in consumer apps.

Clearly, he can't find his brain for all the shit in his head.

yea, as long as see-carpet interpreters are implemented in C/C++...

that article is good for a flamewar ;-)

you may also read his note about tablets - essence Surface Pro is a laptop without descent keyboard - its hot, loud and slow.



[#] Thu Oct 10 2013 14:40:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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momentum of his predictions far outweigh Gartner or other "think
tanks".

Gartner Goop? They can't predict shit. All they do is get paid to say "current trends will continue" by pointy-headeds who want to cover their asses and point to a Gartner Goop document if a decision they made causes problems.

[#] Thu Oct 10 2013 18:55:18 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Actually, if you read the comments in the article, he reveals that he miswrote when he described c/c++ in that way, and that he should have stated that they have fallen into niche markets.

I can agree with that. But it certainly hasn't been obsolete for 'decades'.
That's utterly ridiculous.

[#] Fri Oct 11 2013 02:03:27 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, they had more dominant times; however usual linux applications still tend to be written in C; I also don't know a commandline shell written in an interpreted language as you can get for windows.



[#] Fri Oct 11 2013 17:11:57 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Windows now has PowerShell.

I haven't done much with it, but it seems like a considerably more powerful shell for the OS. But, this is the wrong room for anything pro-Microsoft (and I'm not one who likes to give them props anyway).

[#] Sat Oct 12 2013 01:04:58 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Fri Oct 11 2013 05:11:57 PM EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

Windows now has PowerShell.

I haven't done much with it, but it seems like a considerably more powerful shell for the OS. But, this is the wrong room for anything pro-Microsoft (and I'm not one who likes to give them props anyway).

As one who has looked at PowerShell and the wraper-ing of win32/64 crap named libraries with camel case and periods for Windows libraries... I can safely say, avoid (until someone else writes a better wrapper around that steaming pile).



[#] Sat Oct 12 2013 03:31:02 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Fri Oct 11 2013 17:11:57 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

Windows now has PowerShell.

I haven't done much with it, but it seems like a considerably more powerful shell for the OS. But, this is the wrong room for anything pro-Microsoft (and I'm not one who likes to give them props anyway).

yes, written in see-carpet -> shell written in an interpreted language.



[#] Tue Oct 15 2013 10:52:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yes, because when they decided to build a real shell to replace cmd.exe, they couldn't just go with the established standard POSIX shell. Because they're determined to follow in IBM's footsteps, they had to instead build REXX, er, I mean PowerShell with all of its weird syntax, un-memorizable parameters, and the kind of object integration only lovable by the person who wrote it.

This will eventually come back to bite them. Just ask IBM, who has spent the last two decades trying to (badly) POSIX-ize their proprietary stuff.

[#] Tue Oct 15 2013 21:21:06 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Many people had written a better shell than cmd in their spare time.  I would imagine they have done the same for PooperShell as well, but I just stick to compiled Python if I need a new tool on Winders.



[#] Wed Oct 16 2013 04:14:26 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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but... why not use see-carpet? the interpreter comes with the OS ;-P



[#] Wed Oct 16 2013 10:10:06 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Wed Oct 16 2013 04:14:26 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

but... why not use see-carpet? the interpreter comes with the OS ;-P



Because I lost my taste for Java like programming back in the late 90's and early 2000's.



[#] Thu Oct 17 2013 06:34:39 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Wed Oct 16 2013 10:10:06 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored
Wed Oct 16 2013 04:14:26 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

but... why not use see-carpet? the interpreter comes with the OS ;-P

Because I lost my taste for Java like programming back in the late 90's and early 2000's.

but... butt buttttt you can't compare these! see-carpet pet store example has 30% less LOC than the java one for the same functionality!



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