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[#] Tue Nov 05 2013 10:15:51 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Actually I do run my wifi completely open. Anyone within range either already has their own Internet or doesn't care. I would have welcomed leeches just so I could mess with the data stream, but no such luck.

My next experiment is to run both the router's AP and the server's AP with the same SSID, bridged to the same network, on different channels. The eventual goal is to deploy it in a way that the server's AP is the one I expect to be using most of the time, with the router's AP serving as a backup.

I was expecting hostapd to be less than stable, but I suppose that with it being a key component that makes things like OpenWRT work, it's had its share of QA applied.

[#] Tue Nov 05 2013 13:32:21 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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I was expecting hostapd to be less than stable, but I suppose that
with it being a key component that makes things like OpenWRT work, it's

had its share of QA applied.

I think that most if not all of the players in the home router segment are using Linux in their products, so they might be *doing* some of that QA for all I know...

[#] Tue Nov 05 2013 17:13:58 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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hmmmmm.. leaves his wifi open.

I think I might drive past his house, because he told everone where he lives, monitor his wifi and then when he
logs into facebook I will capture his facebook password.
Then I will write about how horrible facebook and Microsoft (I mean Micro$oft) are, how much he hates Obama and
no one will know!

[#] Wed Nov 06 2013 13:57:18 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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My facebook password is "Dork Fuckerburg"

But it won't work anymore because I deleted my account. Didn't just deactivate it this time either; I did the full delete.

You have my permission to capture my wife's facebook password. Hopefully you'll make her so upset that she stops using it too.

[#] Thu Nov 07 2013 10:06:37 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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DAMN, I guessed an "e" in Burg not a u.

Why so angry?

[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 10:30:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Because everything wrong with the Internet is facebook's fault, of course.

[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 11:29:41 EST from Sig @ Uncensored

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I think it's been going downhill since they added pictures.

[#] Fri Nov 08 2013 17:56:41 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well you can blame AOL for that, I guess. (Or the new AOL, which is ... Facebook.)

[#] Sat Nov 09 2013 23:16:04 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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I miss gopher.  I just might join the last threads of the gopher network via floodgap someday.



[#] Tue Nov 19 2013 23:06:47 EST from Sig @ Uncensored

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There's a semi-active gopher community on sdf.org. I came a little too late to the game for gopher; I used it a little bit in college, but it was mostly dead even then.

[#] Thu Nov 21 2013 00:21:34 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Tue Nov 19 2013 11:06:47 PM EST from Sig @ Uncensored
There's a semi-active gopher community on sdf.org. I came a little too late to the game for gopher; I used it a little bit in college, but it was mostly dead even then.

Thanks Sig.  I will check it out.  I have a sweet spot for Gopher as my wife was at the U of MN during the hey day of Gopher and the start of Gopher II.  I was mostly digging up things via veronica or archie searches back in college, but did do some mud rooms as well.  Yes, I am old and my wife might be younger :-)  Lucky me.  Back on topic, I did get her to switch from Windows ME to Linux as she hated ME so much.



[#] Fri Dec 13 2013 13:23:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hey, when did bash tab-completion of filenames become context sensitive?

I just recently noticed that if I have multiple files with mostly the same name but different suffixes, tab-completion will give me the right one based on the command I'm executing.

For example, if I have "foo.odt" and "foo.pdf" in the same directory, and I type "ls -l foo<TAB>" it will beep and list both files for me ... but if I type "libreoffice foo<TAB>" it will complete to foo.odt, while if I type "evince foo<TAB>" it will complete to foo.pdf.

That's pretty cool and I'm wondering when it came into existence.

[#] Fri Dec 13 2013 14:34:15 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Linus knows all.

[#] Fri Dec 13 2013 15:07:06 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Fri Dec 13 2013 13:23:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Hey, when did bash tab-completion of filenames become context sensitive? 

http://bash-completion.alioth.debian.org/

Have been using that for at least 3 years now, I think maybe even 5 years.

What I like even more is that the completion also works for commands, like /etc/init.d/citadel sta[TAB] *bing* might offer you "start" and "status". (Ok, that is not really a giant step for mankind... just an example.) Similar stuff works all around the bash, in Gentoo you need to actively request it for some stuff, though.



[#] Fri Dec 13 2013 15:37:01 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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with modern git versions, it can even tab-complete i.e. branches,

ala git chekout sta<tab>-> ble-8<tab> list of matches.



[#] Fri Dec 13 2013 15:38:41 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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if you run only one app per hypervised cluster, who needs stuff like memory protection?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/17/cloudius_systems_osv_cloud_software/

(or you use i.e. docker)



[#] Sun Dec 15 2013 12:11:46 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So it looks like context sensitive completion has been around for a while.
Why am I just now noticing it? I am immersed in the Linux shell every day.
I'm "soaking in it" right now, in fact, and noticing it's hard to type on my tablet dock keyboard when all the fingers on my left hand are tingly from too much guitar playing.

[#] Sun Dec 15 2013 12:16:20 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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if you run only one app per hypervised cluster, who needs stuff like
memory protection?

That's an interesting approach. Minimal OS stack for an appliance that runs nothing but a JVM.

I wonder if that model could be extended to native applications. Why have all those runlevels and authentication systems and libraries and everything else when all you really need is libc and your application?

It would be very interesting to strip down a Linux to the point where it just initializes the network and runs your app directly from init. There are efforts like "jeos" but they're so generalized that they may not be stripped down to the bare minimum.

[#] Sun Dec 15 2013 14:00:15 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, i'd rather question whether one needs fat virtualisation in first place..

https://www.docker.io/

seems to be the proper alternative with thin virtualisation - just one kernel in the game.

however, some of the concepts we use to bootstrap citadel propertly aren't implemented yet.



[#] Sun Dec 15 2013 18:01:39 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The obvious win would be to evolve the standard build tools to the point where you can go "make appliance" and end up with an .OVF containing your application plus just enough of the OS to start it.

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