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[#] Thu Jul 26 2018 17:52:50 EDT from kc5tja

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Curses is still relevant, if only because the ANSI/VT command sets (plural!) are so @#$*(%*($ing complicated, that *nobody* seems to get them right in any consistent manner. Except maybe the author of XTerm, but that's due to its age dating back to Babylonian times.

Both Screen and TMux implement command sets differently enough that curses still serves a useful purpose when running software under these environments.

[#] Fri Aug 03 2018 00:29:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Has anyone played with WireGuard yet? It is supposedly the up-and-coming VPN technology because it bypasses all the hundreds of thousands of lines of code used in things like IPsec and OpenVPN; instead it just creates an interface on each end and you route through it.

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I haven't tried it yet but it looks pretty cool. The developer has made a request for the drivers to be included in the mainline Linux kernel. It would be interesting if that happens.

[#] Fri Aug 03 2018 17:03:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ironically, the use of Screen or TMux is a great way to run NON-curses software that assumes an ANSI/VT command set, under a terminal that uses some other command set. I remember the last time I had my Wyse terminal out and attached to Linux, it wasn't really usable unless I entered a Screen session. So we may already be there. :)

Ah, the 1980's ... Wyse terminals on the desks, DB-25 connectors on the walls, teflon-coated cable in the ceilings, and unix machines from Zilog, Fortune, Sperry, and Altos. Ethernet was a distant dream for me then.

[#] Wed Aug 08 2018 13:52:46 EDT from pandora

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screen for life. Tmux is for losers.

[#] Wed Aug 08 2018 15:44:53 EDT from LoanShark <>

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[#] Wed Aug 08 2018 15:45:47 EDT from LoanShark <>

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check out pritunl. decent two-factor auth support, and portable

[#] Thu Aug 09 2018 23:21:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Remind me again why tmux even exists, when screen was already there?

[#] Fri Aug 10 2018 10:14:46 EDT from fleeb <>

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I tried using tmux, although I forget why.

I found screen worked better. But, again, I forget the detail. screen feels more solid to me than tmux.

[#] Fri Aug 10 2018 12:27:09 EDT from pandora

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because some dolt thought screen could be improved upon.

[#] Tue Aug 14 2018 11:05:31 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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2018-08-09 23:21 from IGnatius T Foobar
Remind me again why tmux even exists, when screen was already there?

You can ask that about a whole host of open-source projects. The whole "not invented here" thing is both a great strength and huge weakness.

[#] Thu Aug 16 2018 14:38:10 EDT from petabyte <>

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om fleeb

I have.

equire a successful lawsuit.

[#] Fri Aug 17 2018 06:10:07 EDT from fleeb <>

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Hmm... not sure what you mean there, petabyte.

I can't quite tell if that's a stream of thought posting, or a stream of text that accidentally leaked into a message posted here, heh.

[#] Fri Aug 17 2018 10:18:05 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Perhaps he/she/it wants to help you file a lawsuit against the developers of tmux, funded by 419 money?

[#] Sat Aug 25 2018 09:56:08 EDT from zooer

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For a while there were stories titled "x things you didn't know about ______", if you looked at the story and found you knew most of them.  This headline was different, they don't claim that people don't know about them.

27 Interesting Facts about Linux

[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 16:40:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I knew all of them.

[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 16:44:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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If you run Linux machines in a VMware environment, like many of us do, you are constantly annoyed by the way the VMware console leaves partial garbage on the virtual console when it blanks, instead of showing a blank screen.
And besides, what business does a virtual machine have blanking the console anyway? Screen savers belong on physical screens only.

To make this problem go poof:

1. Edit /etc/default/grub, /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, and/or wherever your kernel boot parameters are set.
2. Remove useless directives like "rhgb" and "quiet"
3. Replace them with "consoleblank=0"
4. Reboot

et voila ... your virtual machine's console stays lit all the time now.

(This assumes that you are not running a GUI on your server console. People who do that tend to be Oracle DBAs and are not capable of learning ProTips anyway.)

[#] Mon Sep 10 2018 17:43:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hmm ... is clang pronounced "klang" or "see-lang" ?

[#] Fri Sep 14 2018 08:55:41 EDT from fleeb <>

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Wikipedia claims it's 'klang'. But, I've seen the other used as well:

(But, the LLVM folks use 'klang', for whatever it's worth).

[#] Sat Sep 15 2018 18:52:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I'd be ok with Linux changing to clang as well. In fact, if we replaced every piece of GNU software with a non-GNU equivalent, we wouldn't have to deal with the communists who keep insisting that the OS is called "GNU/Linux".

[#] Mon Sep 17 2018 10:48:22 EDT from nonservator

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RIP Linux. Survived Microsoft, killed by SJW COC.

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