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[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 13:52:29 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Slight correction --- that was all in 2005, not 2004.

[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 17:10:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well duh ... Sears is now part of K-Mart. Seems reasonable to expect a gradual downhill slide.

On the other hand, I know of nowhere else where you can punch your appliance model number into a web site and get an exploded diagram of all the parts so you can order just what you need to fix it yourself.

[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 21:51:09 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Sears is now on our shit list. Sears may not be around for much longer
as it is. My parents had problems with
Ford in the 70s, no one in the family will go near a Ford product.

My dad once picketed outside Sears with a sign reading "DO NOT BUY SEARS TIRES"


So we are familiar with their run-around. I wish I could say that this act magically cleared up their warranty service, but I don't really remember more details...

[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 22:01:10 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Sears is now on our shit list. Sears may not be around for much longer
as it is. My parents had problems with
Ford in the 70s, no one in the family will go near a Ford product.

Wow. Y'all know how to hold a grudge.

[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 23:49:26 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Wow. Y'all know how to hold a grudge.



I'm Italian. 100%.
It's part of the heritage!

[#] Tue Oct 08 2013 13:35:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Is that where it comes from? And I thought I just had an anger management issue.

[#] Tue Oct 08 2013 21:57:31 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Heh - no.
Most 'talians don't view that as an "anger management issue" but as just another tool for controlling the multitude.

Better than the Old Way (just putting out a contract...).

[#] Sat Oct 26 2013 10:48:56 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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The brisk snap of early morning is in the air.
Saturday.
Auburn.
Almost time.

There's a Bagel with all this Good Stuff on its outer surface.
They, not knowing much, call it the Everything Bagel.

It's good. Tasty. Not very traditional.
But good.

And there's a good slab of onion.
And several pieces of Nova Lox (as if there's any other sort of Lox).
And some chunks of bell pepper (didn't know bells made peppers?).

And all this is getting put together for 8 AM.
About 15 minutes.
Breakfast From Heaven!


OY !!

[#] Sat Oct 26 2013 14:19:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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No schmear?

[#] Sat Oct 26 2013 17:36:11 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Sat Oct 26 2013 11:19:59 PDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
No schmear?

That's taken for granted. Not a bagel worth eating without it.  ;)



[#] Tue Nov 19 2013 13:14:17 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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You need special cords for dryers?



[#] Tue Nov 19 2013 13:34:24 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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A three or four prong heavy guage 220 cord. And it is imporant that you get a new cord each time, and it is an
extra, it doesn't come with the machine you have to buy it and you can't use the old cord.

[#] Tue Nov 19 2013 17:49:22 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Ah, yes, you normally operate on a grid voltage easily achieved by rubbing a balloon to your pets fur, I forgot.

Tell you what, here in 240V land, we dare to use simple cords directly attached to the dryer. They look exactly like the ones for the washing machine, in fact, they are made of the exact same stuff. And now the best thing: They can use the same wall socekt as every other gear here, be it a desktop pc, gaming console, hair dryer, coffee machine, iron or TV. And we do not need a special technician to plug them in. :D

Only thing you need an electrician for would be your oven in the kitchen.

And no guarantee voids here if you do it yourself (properly).



[#] Wed Nov 20 2013 07:51:36 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Tue Nov 19 2013 01:34:24 PM EST from zooer @ Uncensored
A three or four prong heavy guage 220 cord. And it is imporant that you get a new cord each time, and it is an
extra, it doesn't come with the machine you have to buy it and you can't use the old cord.

Why can't you use the old cord? If it's in good enough shape (no fraying where the wires insert into the screw blocks, no cracking/breaking/damage to the insulation), why wouldn't it be reusable?



[#] Wed Nov 20 2013 08:59:44 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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The cord has to be properly initiated and needs to be tuned into sync with the new dryer. The old cord is out of sync, the dryer notices and the guarantee is void...



[#] Wed Nov 20 2013 09:07:00 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Wed Nov 20 2013 08:59:44 AM EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

The cord has to be properly initiated and needs to be tuned into sync with the new dryer. The old cord is out of sync, the dryer notices and the guarantee is void...

I'm going to claim incredulity and ask "WTH does that mean?"

How is the cord "out of sync"? I have never been sold, by any store where I've purchased a 220v appliance (dryer or stove/oven/range), a cord that was specific to a particular brand/model of dryer. They're generic on the bare wire end, and specific only on the end that plugs into the actual power source.



[#] Wed Nov 20 2013 09:18:44 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Just making fun of your medieval / 3rd world power grid, because I do not understand the mandatory change either. In theory, there is little chance it gets physically damaged while being installed behind some dryer. If no physical damage is visible and the ends match, it should be perfectly reusable.

Ovens in germany need a special cord and the end you screw to the wall socket needs "cable shoes", whatever they are called in english. In theory you need an electrician for that, but only man who sit down to pee actually would call an electrician.



[#] Wed Nov 20 2013 11:16:48 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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This has nothing to do with dryers or washers or 220V-AC cords. However, this story goes toward "it should not be so - everything in electricity/electronics, even the *math* says it should not be so - but..." category.

Many years ago I was visiting a "high end" (expensive) audio store near where I was living in New Jersey. While there, one of the sales folk started talking to me about this new line of speaker cable they had just started carrying in the store. The manufacturer was a small and unknown (up to then) company called MonsterCable.

The guy gave me the standard sales pitch. I told him "all that stuff you just said is fine, at **radio frequency** but at audio frequencies it simply does not apply." He knew me. Knew what I was teaching (Physics).

He said "take these home; swap them into your system for the speaker cables you are using now; if you don't like them bring them back and if you do like them just come in and pay for them next time you are in the store."

I took them home.
I removed my 8 guage insulated copper wire pairs that had been connecting my speakers to my amplifiers. Just a 2 channel "stereo" back then. This was before CDs. Before "Dolby Anything". If you had a high end system you had two speakers and if you really were a fanatic you had a subwoofer. I had a subwoofer. It was a Velodyne ULD12. But I digress.

I put the 10-ft MonsterCable set of speaker cables into the system. Powered everything up. Put on my roughly 40th copy of Dark Side of the Moon.

WOW !!!!!

To this day I cannot believe what my ears were telling me. Night and day difference is an understatement. Just putting those cables into my system made a difference equivalent to installing a new pair of speakers.

Instead of just 'reproducing music from an LP' the system *sang*.

I went immediately back to that store; paid the guy; told *him* what I just told you right here.

And that pair of cables is STILL in my system which has, over the years, *massively* "grown up" around those two cables.

The moral here? Sometimes "things just happen" that everything you think you know about science tells you should not happen. But it does.

You see, there's that thing they never put in the books, which no Ph.D. ever incluces in a lecture; which will never be heard or read in a formal context.

That thing?

"Shit Happens."

[#] Wed Nov 20 2013 12:07:44 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Why */can't/* you use the old cord? If it's in good enough shape (no
fraying where the wires insert into the screw blocks, no
cracking/breaking/damage to the insulation), why wouldn't it be
reusable?


It voids the warranty aka they want you to spend more. WHY NOT INCLUDE IT?

[#] Wed Nov 20 2013 12:17:57 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I have never heard of an electric dryer whose warranty would be voided by the reuse of an existing cord. There are still some installations out there where there's no cord at all, it's just hard wired into a junction box.

Now what I really want to know is, why hasn't the world of electric dryers moved towards twist lock receptacles?

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