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[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 15:18:49 EST from nonservator

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Cholesterololololololol

 

Not bothering to cite against bullshit cause this is RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTS



[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 15:21:59 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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So, I read somewhere that there is a study that believes that human sentience arose when we started eating cooked meat. The cognitive leap necessary to have the intellectual capacity for true self-awareness requires a diet of meat. 

I figure that if we just wait them out, eventually the Indians won't be fit intellectually to hold IT jobs, and we can take the industry back. 30,000 to 50,000 years ought to do the trick. 

 



[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 16:44:01 EST from Nurb432

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Ya, that is the current accepted explanation of 'us'. It wasn't the meat so much as the energy and vitamins that meat has, over foraging berries for a living. Its all condensed into a convenient package. And it tastes good too.

Other than the alien angle, of course.  :)

Sun Dec 13 2020 15:21:59 EST from ParanoidDelusions

So, I read somewhere that there is a study that believes that human sentience arose when we started eating cooked meat. The cognitive leap necessary to have the intellectual capacity for true self-awareness requires a diet of meat. 

I figure that if we just wait them out, eventually the Indians won't be fit intellectually to hold IT jobs, and we can take the industry back. 30,000 to 50,000 years ought to do the trick. 

 



 



[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 18:48:35 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Eating a ton of anything will make you a fat fuck.  You need to burn
more calories than you consume.   Eating a lot of fatty meats will
give you high cholesterol levels.

As a sufferer of hypercholesterolemia, I beg to differ. (And I'd rather discuss nutrition today, it's better than listening to political punditry masquerading as epidemiology.)

Yes, it was not too long ago that The Settled Science (tm) was that dietary cholesterol directly impacted serum cholesterol, especially if it was from sources of saturated fat such as meat. That isn't the Consensus (tm) anymore.

My own experience confirms this. Dietary changes didn't impact my serum cholesterol one bit. My doctor told me that they don't really look at that anymore, that even a diet high in processed carbs will still raise your serum cholesterol if you're prone to it. Serum cholesterol is the cholesterol produced by your own body, not the absorbed cholesterol from your diet.

It's like pretty much EVERYTHING else when it comes to nutrition: eat clean, minimally processed foods, drink lots of water, and burn more calories than you consume. As noted earlier, I still believe in the "Square Meal" -- call me old fashioned but it WORKS.

Some 10-15 years ago I switched to drinking water with my afternoon and evening meals instead of a sugary beverage. That change alone had a better impact on my serum cholesterol than any of the changes I'd previously been trying to make with animal fat.

[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 20:20:27 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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I was one of those guys who could always eat *anything* - and I mean *anything*... and stay razor thin. High metabolism. Little yappy dog that lives until he is so old he looks like Yoda's grandpa. 
I know it. 

But, at some point, it started catching up with me. I had to cut out the sugar drinks. Cut way back on the carbs... actually exercise. But also... eating less than I'm burning. I could eat anything. Processed food, junk, healthy food, it didn't matter. When I was getting "ripped" in my 20's - and I *was* yoked enough that other dudes who lifted "recognized," even though I never really bulked up - I'd buy two pizzas for $9.99 or 4 Big Macs when you would buy 1 get 1 free, and slam them after working out, and they went right to muscle - but - I was actually still eating LESS than my daily caloric requirement, or slightly more. Not *enough* more - which is why I stayed lean, probably. If I was eating a 3500 calorie a day diet, I was burning 3300. 

But then I got older, and I was burning 1200 calories a day, and eating 2200, plus beer on the weekend... and candy... and yeah, I got up to 210. Which is way too much weight on me. 

The big key, that EVERYONE misses is... plenty of physical activity and BURN more than you put in. You'll lose weight. It is physics. 



Sun Dec 13 2020 18:48:35 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
...and burn more calories than you consume. 

 



[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 20:22:38 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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You caught me. 


ancientaliens #meme | History channel meme, Ancient aliens meme, Aliens meme

Sun Dec 13 2020 16:44:01 EST from Nurb432

 

Other than the alien angle, of course.  :)

 

 



 



 



[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 20:25:54 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Mac Tonnies used to conference call me in with Richard Hoagland and Richard would talk about "The Owls". I'm a card-carrying member of the pseudo-science Ancient-Alien Astronaut cult fringe. 



[#] Mon Dec 14 2020 15:22:44 EST from nonservator

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I just decided I am going to actually be the straw man everyone assumes I am: "Why, yes. Your so-called 'science' is voodoo bullshit because it completely ignores the scientific method."



[#] Mon Dec 14 2020 17:53:07 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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There has been a lot of voodoo bullshit in this room lately. You're going to have to be more specific on which voodoo bullshit you're calling out. 

 

Mon Dec 14 2020 15:22:44 EST from nonservator

I just decided I am going to actually be the straw man everyone assumes I am: "Why, yes. Your so-called 'science' is voodoo bullshit because it completely ignores the scientific method."



 



[#] Mon Dec 14 2020 19:54:52 EST from nonservator

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Why, anything I disagree with, of course. Those are the new rules.



[#] Mon Dec 14 2020 21:53:03 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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I don't like the new rules. 

https://donovancolbert.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-definitive-post-on-wearing-mask-or.html

Not only was I right about this - but evidence suggests that the severity of the virus has decreased, that there are more infections but less requiring hospitalization and ICU care. The current idea is that the total viral loads are decreasing, and that a decreased total viral load per infection is likely to result in a less severe case of Covid-19 with fewer complications. 


And, the whole idea that a mask my not prevent infection that so many anti-maskers adopted, ignores that it reduces exposure amount by any reasonable analysis - for exactly the reason I described in the blog above. 

So, masks are certainly contributing to the decreased viral loads and the lowered levels of complications arising when infections do occur. 


Counterpoints? 



[#] Tue Dec 15 2020 11:20:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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There has been a lot of voodoo bullshit in this room lately. You're
going to have to be more specific on which voodoo bullshit you're
calling out. 

Yeah, I'm a little tired of it. I was trying to steer the conversation back towards actual health & wellness topics rather than the shitshow you hear about it everywhere.

[#] Tue Dec 15 2020 17:22:19 EST from nonservator

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Avoiding Covid-19:

 

Don't be over 70, obese, diabetic, or have a history of respiratory problems.

 

Take at least 5,000 IU of vitamin D a day, along with at least a gram of vitamin C, and some zinc with quercitin.

 

Along with hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin shows great promise for early treatment.



[#] Tue Dec 15 2020 20:25:27 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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My father-in-law, who is over 70 and diabetic, seems to be doing great so far with early diagnosis, careful monitoring, and aggressive treatment. 

My mother in law, slightly younger, also seems to be doing good. 

*knock on wood*. 


Tue Dec 15 2020 17:22:19 EST from nonservator

Avoiding Covid-19:

 

Don't be over 70, obese, diabetic, or have a history of respiratory problems.

 

Take at least 5,000 IU of vitamin D a day, along with at least a gram of vitamin C, and some zinc with quercitin.

 

Along with hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin shows great promise for early treatment.



 



[#] Wed Dec 16 2020 08:00:01 EST from nonservator

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Very glad to hear. Being elderly or having comorbidities doesn't sign your death warrant, it just makes it more likely for you to get the virus or to die from it. And early aggressive treatment is key to survival.



[#] Wed Dec 16 2020 09:51:36 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Yeah, I had been very worried about him getting it. Not an event I'm in any big hurry to attend - that guy's passing. 

So his fever broke yesterday. Hopefully that means we're out of the woods with them. Glad they got diagnosed and on treatment quickly. 

 



[#] Fri Dec 18 2020 14:49:30 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I've been on the Atkins diet twice - and both times my cholesterol dropped - all while eating a ton of meat.

[#] Fri Dec 18 2020 22:36:09 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Just low carb did it for me. Dropped from a lifetime high of 209 down to 175, and my cholesterol and thyroid both started behaving. 

Wasn't even Keto. 

I did exercise more. 

Father-In-Law hasn't had a fever for a few days. Looks like they're through it. Thank God. 

Kind of wish I had caught it, so I could be done with it, with my mild heart condition. Would be ironic if I was the only one in the family so far that it killed, after it has affected people in apparently far worse health than me, and I've spent a lifetime cheating death through misadventure and bad... bad... choices. 


But... also a little poetic. 

Fri Dec 18 2020 14:49:30 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold
I've been on the Atkins diet twice - and both times my cholesterol dropped - all while eating a ton of meat.

 



[#] Sat Dec 19 2020 15:08:37 EST from LoanShark

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a well known geneticist has studied covid mutations and speaks to the ongoing, baseless meme that sars-cov-2 has mutated into something less deadly. spoiler alert - absolutely no evidence for this proposition.

thread: https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1340310814142685184

[#] Sat Dec 19 2020 16:56:15 EST from zooer

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Mutating to something less deadly wouldn't bother me, stop me from wearing a mask, or practicing social distancing.   I was always washing my hands the proper way before all this started)

Mutating to something more deadly or into something that the vaccine doesn't prevent does worry me.

 



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