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[#] Thu Feb 16 2017 16:56:50 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Funny how you forget these things sometimes, untl you find yourself using something else.

I've gotten very accustomed to the back/forward buttons on my Logitech M570 trackball. Yesterday I sat down at another system and, aside from having to use a mouse and a crappy chiclet keyboard, I kept reaching for the back/forward buttons that weren't there. For an afternoon I had to get reaccustomed to using Alt + left or right arrow instead.

[#] Fri Jan 12 2018 13:18:48 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I have gone without my Das Keyboard for months now. I should buy
another one just for work.

I'm at the office today (not my home office, the one actually in one of our buildings) and am typing this message on a genuine IBM Model M keyboard. And I'm experiencing something I never thought I'd find: after a year of typing on my Das Keyboard with Cherry MX Blue switches, the Model M actually feels a bit mushy.

I know, I probably lose all sorts of nerd creds for even thinking this. But at least I'm not a faux-nerd like Randall Munroe.

[#] Tue Jan 16 2018 14:27:58 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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You should be beaten to death with the Model M.

[#] Wed Jan 17 2018 17:58:41 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Probably. Most of my M's are in pretty bad shape, though, and I really do like the MX Blue keys. They're probably the closest we can get to a true successor to IBM's buckling springs. (I've heard the Unicomps are not built anywhere close to IBM quality.)

[#] Fri Jan 19 2018 15:26:44 EST from pandora

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I have a Unicomp, my model M is still me preferred keyboard, but I'd take a Unicomp over a cherry anything any day. Buckle spring for life.

[#] Fri Jan 19 2018 18:54:37 EST from Ladyhawke

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speaking of cherry hardware....

Have any of us geeks picked up the Cherry Tree Borg Cube VR?

[#] Tue Jan 23 2018 14:19:24 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I'm still a fan of the Matias Tactile Pro.... I'm running a Unicomp right now. It's okay. Looks like a Model M, but it' definitely doesn't live up to those old IBM keyboards.

[#] Wed Jan 24 2018 15:28:34 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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There are some decent "keyboard computers" around now, thanks to the emergence of PC-compatible SoC that actually have decent specs (with the usual disclaimer that people who do a lot of gaming or video editing are excluded).

I wonder if there's enough room to put a full computer inside a Model M.

[#] Fri May 18 2018 11:08:56 EDT from wizard of aahz

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I picked up a logitech mechanical keyboard... I know it's not the best of them, but the clickiness is making me all sorts of happy.

[#] Fri May 18 2018 11:25:46 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I've got a Matias Tactile Pro keyboard. I like it quite a bit.

[#] Fri May 18 2018 13:32:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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What kind of key switches are in the Logitech and the Matias?

[#] Fri May 18 2018 13:49:31 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Matias claims they use their own which is a recreation of the classic ALPS switch.

[#] Fri May 18 2018 14:02:57 EDT from wizard of aahz

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Logitech is using Romer-G mechanical switches

I'll bring it over for you to check out IG.

[#] Mon May 21 2018 08:17:29 EDT from fleeb <>

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I didn't know Logitech made such a thing.

Oddly, I can't remember what I use at home. I like it, but I wish to have the clickiness without the sound (as weird as that may seem).

[#] Tue May 22 2018 10:33:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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After trying out the Romer-G mechanical switches on the Logitech K840 ... they're nice, not my favorite, but nice. They are tactile enough for everyday use. The tactile response is produced by the keys bottoming out on the anodized aluminum base. This makes the response a firm "tap-tap-tap" rather than the "click-click-click" of Cherry switches, and that may be what some typists want, particularly those who type with heavy strokes.

[#] Tue May 22 2018 10:37:10 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Oddly, I can't remember what I use at home. I like it, but I wish to

have the clickiness without the sound (as weird as that may seem).

I thought you had a Das Keyboard, like I do? Those are available with Cherry MX Brown switches, which are tactile but non-clicky. (Mine has the Blue switches which are both tactile and clicky.)

[#] Tue May 22 2018 14:18:07 EDT from LoanShark <>

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They're a bit different, but I like Dell keyboards for the PC and Apple's stuff is also nice. Both are a bit softer than other options (such as amazonbasics, which I'm not such a huge fan of...)

[#] Wed May 23 2018 14:33:55 EDT from fleeb <>

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Ah, yes, it is a DAS keyboard... just don't have one at work, so I couldn't look down to see it.

I like the feel... if the Cherry MX Brown has that feel without the sound, I should get one.

[#] Fri May 25 2018 10:59:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I don't know what it feels like, but that's what it's supposed to be like -- tactile bump without much of an audible click.  Here's a two minute video [ ] of someone demonstrating each key type.

I like the audible click, but you can get the Das Keyboard with either the brown (tactile non-clicky) or blue (clicky) switches.

If you've already got one model, then you already know the Das Keyboard is an excellent piece of hardware, worthy of being used by an old-school geek raised on IBM keyboards.  Everything about it is good, from the heavy aluminum base, to the built in USB 3 hub, to the big volume knob and minimal media keys.  And although I hate to admit it, I'm getting used to having the extra modifier keys in the bottom row -- but they're marked with the Das Keyboard logo instead of the Windows logo, so that's pretty cool.



[#] Tue May 29 2018 08:31:31 EDT from fleeb <>

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Other OSes have picked up on that modifier key as well, and use it. It increasingly makes sense to use a different graphic for that key.

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