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[#] Fri May 02 2014 07:59:02 EDT from the_mgt

Subject: Re: So chrome wont show you the url of the site you are visiting soon...

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Thu May 01 2014 18:42:29 EDTfrom IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: So chrome wont show you the url of the site you are visiting soon...
Kind of difficult to bury it completely, as it's needed for things to work ... I suppose it will be kind of like WordPerfect's "reveal codes"
Not needed by people who are already challenged by the concept of files and folders.
How will bookmarking work? 
"Cute images of kittenz @ Your important Webstuff page"
 
There is a title attribute which you can set for pages. Also: Who needs bookmarks, search with google!
 
It might just be that we are too old. I still type "ebay.de" into the url field if I want to visit the site, my girlfriend always used the search field and entered "ebay". She now has a combined url/search field, but wondered why so on the first day it changed. Not that she was really consciously aware of the difference, but being feline-minded, she abhors changes.
 


[#] Fri May 02 2014 09:33:26 EDT from wizard of aahz

Subject: Re: So chrome wont show you the url of the site you are visiting soon...

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I'm assuming that it might not show you the URL on the title bar, but if you poke around it's bound to show you it somewhere, right?

[#] Fri May 02 2014 10:03:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: So chrome wont show you the url of the site you are visiting soon...

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Most "non computer people" seem to just type what they're looking for into the whatever-box now. Eliminating their knowledge of what a URL is and how it works could backfire on Google. On the default Windowe/aIEeeee installation, this practice takes you to Bing.

[#] Fri May 02 2014 13:29:10 EDT from fleeb

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The article notes that this was an experiment, nothing more.

I don't think they'll actually get rid of it. It powers the internet.

Unlike tubes.

[#] Fri May 02 2014 14:51:05 EDT from zooer

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I have always hated searching from the Omnibar. Now your "blank" home page has a google search text box in it,
as soon as you type in it it goes up to the omnibar. I hate searching from the address bar.

[#] Fri May 02 2014 14:51:42 EDT from zooer

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I also hate getting a search or some other page than a 404 page.

[#] Fri May 02 2014 15:13:57 EDT from zooer

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To answer the question above:
"the URL will move out of the field entirely, to a tidy little button that many users will never even realize is
clickable."

[#] Sat May 03 2014 00:06:16 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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You could always use the super-low-bandwidth search screen I built for myself...

http://www.citadel.org/google.html

I
ve got that in my bookmark button bar. Simple and effective.

To be honest I really did prefer when URL and Search were in different boxes.
But I'm a "computer person" and we really do think differently from most users.

[#] Sat May 03 2014 07:50:34 EDT from the_mgt

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Even with separate bars, some browsers instantly opened a search for single words such as "dork" instead of first checking if it was a hostname that was resolvable via dns/netbios. Even prepending http:// did not help at times. Same goes for lan ips. For fucks sake, why should I google search 192.168.52.43?!?!?!?! I could understand it for the 10.x.x.x, but for 192.168x.x?!

There should be at least an environment variable such as PANTS=ON or USERLEVEL=SHIBOLEET in order to get browsers to behave sane again. 



[#] Sat May 10 2014 14:11:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I wonder if Mosaic 3 still works

[#] Sun May 25 2014 09:27:14 EDT from zooer

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/tech/innovation/google-apple-brand-value/index.html?hpt=hp_bn5

but wait... this is from CNN so Ignat will tell us it can't be true.

[#] Mon May 26 2014 09:49:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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It's true -- I read it on Forbes :)

[ http://tinyurl.com/mzqnovz ]

Let's remember, however, that "brand value" does not necessarily translate directly to revenue. Vision and execution are two very different things.
Once is not enough; plant a porkchop today.

[#] Tue Jul 01 2014 18:13:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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zooer will be very happy today -- I am about to complain about Google.

fucking googtards and their we-know-best attitude ... I got upgraded to Chrome 35 and now my Java doesn't work. They just unilaterally decided that it's time for NPAPI to die, so I can't run my plugins.

[#] Wed Jul 02 2014 08:32:28 EDT from zooer

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Submit, and conform for the greater good.

[#] Wed Jul 02 2014 09:31:51 EDT from fleeb

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Oh, yeah, speaking of...

Yesterday, I thought I'd try using Google Play on my phone to play a collection of Beatles tunes I have stored on the thing. I told it to make a quick-mix of the Beatles, then start my long commute to work.

For the next 1 hour 30 minutes, it played almost anything in my music collection *except* the Beatles. It avoided the classical music, but it did go so far as to delve a little bit into my Zappa collection... which doesn't really strike me as being anything like the Beatles.

So... yeah... WTF? I didn't hear a single Beatles tune in the mix it made based off The Beatles. Fucking brilliant.

[#] Wed Jul 02 2014 11:00:52 EDT from LoanShark

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to Chrome 35 and now my Java doesn't work. They just unilaterally

java not working is probably a good thing... of course it will be a long time before there is a ppapi port of JVM, if it ever happens at all.

[#] Wed Jul 02 2014 13:46:12 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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EMC Unisphere.  Requires a browser with Java.  Everything else I can get around by downloading JNLP's and running them from the command line ... but Unisphere insists on running inside the browser.



[#] Wed Jul 02 2014 14:17:12 EDT from LoanShark

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sure, use firefox. my investment-banking apps are the same way.

os x chrome has had no java for a while now, even though it supports npapi for the time being, because it is a 32-bit process and mac java is moving towards 64-bitness.

anyway, here's an interesting read on what the goog-droids want to replace npapi with. http://blog.leafsr.com/2012/08/03/google-native-client-part-1/

J3/vmkit seems to be moving towards a NaCl port: http://reviews.llvm.org/rL200856

[#] Wed Jul 02 2014 14:17:57 EDT from LoanShark

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ppapi is a nice innovative approach, it is really too bad that the firefox guys are whining now that they have some competition to their stagnant technology

[#] Thu Jul 03 2014 14:04:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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HTML5 is now sufficiently powerful that it no longer makes sense to write web applications which require client-side Java in most cases. At the very least, EMC and others should be moving to Web Start (JNLP) so it doesn't have to plug into the browser as an extension. In the meantime however, this is kind of an abrupt stop.

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