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Mon Oct 16 2023 15:35:33 EDT from LadySerenaKittyHTML bloat, CSS bloat, JS bloat, so a page that should be 57K is now 7MB, and then there's about 250MB of ads on top of that. Oh, and you can't even fucking tell what's an ad versus what's content.
Then websites wonder why nobody goes to them.
Go on, faggots. Do it. No skin off my ass. It'll be premium
entertainment.
Hehe. In my home we still see the ads on our big screen because a ChromeCast stick has no ad blocker. Hopefully that's enough to satisfy the greedtards in Mountain View.
When viewing YouTube on a ChromeCast, the ads are not skippable, but they are generally quite short and tolerable.
Not so on desktop or mobile, of course, so it's game on for ad blocking.
HTML bloat, CSS bloat, JS bloat, so a page that should be 57K is now
7MB, and then there's about 250MB of ads on top of that. Oh, and
you can't even fucking tell what's an ad versus what's content.
Your friendly neighborhood BBS operator would like to welcome you back to the real world where we don't do that.
You mean this one?
lol
Tue Oct 17 2023 09:46:12 EDT from IGnatius T FoobarYour friendly neighborhood BBS operator would like to welcome you back to the real world where we don't do that.
Now that the 'block ad blockers' popup with YT is spreading, my blocker has come up with a work around. Of course its a moving target, but at least they are on it.
It's going to be a game of cat and mouse forever, just like spam and spam blockers. Except I would argue that advertisements for fake viagra are far more tolerable than the crap Google is trying to push.
The next step will of course to build ad blockers that download the ads and fool the site into believing they were shown. I supposed on YouTube the goolagers will respond by measuring the delay between serving the ad and serving the video, which seems simple enough until you realize that they may have come from different servers thousands of miles away from each other.
In the end they'll just end up pissing off their users and hastening the end of YouTube's near-monopoly position.
I think in the old days, that is how it worked. it wasn't really 'blocked' but 'hidden'. Then over time it went more to actual blocking, so easier to detect. I have a blocker thing for Zukerbook, and that is how it works. It has an option to show that something was blocked, optionally why, and you can click to view it if you want. Of course that means its doing more client side processing, and FB can kill my browser tab when it floods me and the blocker struggles to keep up... ( i have hit 60% CPU at times.. on a 8 core xeon.. )
2023-09-25 22:29 from msgrhys
Ever heard of Pale Moon?
I used to like it, but it has some serious issues.
1) Development team is composed of assholes.
2) Development is Windows-centric. It happens to run elsewhere but they don't care that much how well it does. If you talk to them you quickly notice they are condescendent towards 3rd party Operating Systems, to the point og being insulting and pissing packagers enough that they don't want to make packages for their browser anymore.
3) The government of Pale Moon is unstable. I invite you to read DigDeeper's review on it to check how bad it is.
2023-10-12 17:25 from Nurb432
Not sure i can use it now, if this continues.
1 - i cant see the video at all to see if i want it ( i know, "DL and
see"... but extra hassle )
2 - Not sure i can copy a URL out when the popup happens since it
loaded at launch, on top of the "tiles". Ill try it next time.
After a few repetitions of it not letting me past the 'tile screen'
at all as it kept popping up, it did finally let me close the popup.
i was able to see 2 videos, then it popped back up, but i could close
the warning that time. ( had not got around to posting yet, as it
just happened )
Just use an Invidious instance like yewtu.be. Problem solved.
I still remember timing airwave TV back in the old days before i
stopped watching. You get 30 seconds of show, for 3 minutes of
ad. Radio is just as bad. "Hi we are back, and we are going to talk
about how such and such sucks, but now lets have a word from our
sponsor" "oh, and buy my book!"
I am more radical than you because I "remember" radio shows from the 1930s.
Main difference in my mind was that sponsorships were more professional. You didn't get an ad in the show. You got an unique explanation of the week as to why product X was nice and could be useful to you. Hell, sometimes they came with genuinely useful advice about regulating your furnaces or whatever, THEN told you "by the way, buy our 100% American coal."
Not heard of that. If my blocker fails down the road, ill try it..
Wed Oct 18 2023 16:54:26 EDT from darknetuserJust use an Invidious instance like yewtu.be. Problem solved.
I listened to radio in the 70s, 80s, early 90s.
Mostly talk radio, as i listened to alternative music that was not played around here. Cant stomach top 40 or the so called 'classic rock' crap. monotonous noise. But for the most part once Rush stopped, i quit. Now if i listen its just for traffic reports and even that, less so as by the time they report it thru all the commercials, im sitting behind the wreck. Tho there is a local station that is ok, has a couple of local guys that are not terrible if they stay away from religion, and national people like Sean Hannity which isn't terrible but still not a go-to for me. They also have that jerk Levin.. screams and yells repeats himself and pushes his books, and soooooo many commercials. He may be correct, but his delivery turns many off.
perhaps 15 years ago local college station started "moving alternative", but not what i consider alternative. Until you start playing things like kristin hersh, L7, veruca salt, rockbitch, bikini kill, or even something as tame as Tapping the Vein, kidney thieves or even screaming females, you are not alternative. Hell, at least try playing sonic youth or something that is commercial-alternative ( and id not even hope for bandmaid or Yakui The Maid or something as that is wayyyyy too far for most, but at least try... ) But at least it was a step in the right direction i guess.
Wed Oct 18 2023 16:58:50 EDT from darknetuserI am more radical than you because I "remember" radio shows from the 1930s.
Main difference in my mind was that sponsorships were more professional. You didn't get an ad in the show. You got an unique explanation of the week as to why product X was nice and could be useful to you. Hell, sometimes they came with genuinely useful advice about regulating your furnaces or whatever, THEN told you "by the way, buy our 100% American coal."
Oh and Mr doom and gloom himself : Glenn Beck
"The world is ending freak out! Buy patriot food and gold bars! "
Wed Oct 18 2023 17:27:41 EDT from Nurb432ISean Hannity which isn't terrible but still not a go-to for me. They also have that jerk Levin.. screams and yells repeats himself and pushes his books, and soooooo many commercials. He may be correct, but his delivery turns many off.
Might be sooner than i thought. They have ramped it up, as i expected. ..
Wed Oct 18 2023 17:04:23 EDT from Nurb432Not heard of that. If my blocker fails down the road, ill try it..
Wed Oct 18 2023 16:54:26 EDT from darknetuserJust use an Invidious instance like yewtu.be. Problem solved.
Blocker updated, now working again.
But in preparation, wrote a little GUI wrapper around yt-dlp using tkinter, as im too lazy to type.
Just use an Invidious instance like yewtu.be. Problem solved.
The thing that keeps me coming back to "real" YouTube is the feed. I know it's heavily manipulated, but the curation of videos I might like to watch is actually pretty useful.
What we really need is an independent curator that indexes videos across both YouTube and other sites.
For me its more about subscriptions, so i see what is new from them. I dont really use the 'suggested feed' much as in my case its way off ( especially for music. once in a while its right, but most of the time they get it way wrong )
Thu Oct 26 2023 09:46:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
The thing that keeps me coming back to "real" YouTube is the feed. I know it's heavily manipulated, but the curation of videos I might like to watch is actually pretty useful.
How about using an RSS feed for "subscriptions"? I imagine even if El Goog shuts that down, Invidious instances will still support RSS.
i didnt know YT did that.
Thu Oct 26 2023 11:52:34 EDT from nonservatorHow about using an RSS feed for "subscriptions"? I imagine even if El Goog shuts that down, Invidious instances will still support RSS.
Not 'officially'. Last I knew:
"But Google doesn’t publish RSS feeds for channels—or at least they don’t make them easy to find with a clickable button. Luckily there are two easy workarounds."
https://danielmiessler.com/p/rss-feed-youtube-channel/