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[#] Wed Apr 12 2023 09:49:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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this is just the fediverse reflecting what has already happened
everywhere else: we've fragmented into little bubbles, echo chambers.


Yeah. As should be obvious, my implementation of Fediverse protocols is still a few years away (because it will be built on top of WebCit-NG, which isn't finished) but there's no way I am implementing blocks because someone told me to. That will probably get this site blacklisted because we are, as Wikipedia calls non-censor-happy media, "neo-nazi and white supremacist" site.

(Also I used the word "blacklisted" which is offensive to a bunch of rich white people in gated communities.)

[#] Wed Apr 12 2023 10:10:54 EDT from Nurb432

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I have less faith in intentions than you do in this case. I do think this is what they want, on both sides, and this is 100% planned to pass. They can get it passed, under the guise of 'evil Chinese'.

Then in a year or 2 later when people realize what just happened, it would be too late ( like patriot act )

Wed Apr 12 2023 09:45:32 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Libtards want excessive moderation to a communist level because their
ideas cannot hold even a whisker to the ideas of the right.

True. However, the latest take on the RESTRICT Act that I heard was that it was designed to fail.

The idea is that the people who are owned by China want to keep using TikTok as a campaign platform, so they built a bunch of poison pills into the RESTRICT Act such as banning VPNs and giving the government (even more than usual) nazi levels of control over social media. That way when it inevitably gets shot down, they can say "we tried to rein in TikTok, but *those* people opposed it."

 



[#] Sat Apr 22 2023 08:47:44 EDT from nonservator

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The recent Usenet kerfuffle over Citadel's Code of Conduct was entertaining. "Muh Twumpists"



[#] Tue Apr 25 2023 09:02:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Really? Did someone see our CoC and they went wackadoodle over it? If so, PLEASE tell me where I can read it!

[#] Tue Apr 25 2023 19:00:33 EDT from darknetuser

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2023-04-25 09:02 from IGnatius T Foobar
Really? Did someone see our CoC and they went wackadoodle over it? If

so, PLEASE tell me where I can read it!



I second the motion

[#] Tue Apr 25 2023 19:44:06 EDT from Nurb432

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its right there. Just go to ************************************** and you will see it.



[#] Thu Apr 27 2023 10:54:22 EDT from nonservator

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At least some of it was in alt.folklore.computers but there was likely some crossposting spillover I missed.



[#] Thu Apr 27 2023 23:09:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hmm. Can't find it. I found something on an Ada newsgroup but it was only a handful of messages. If you could shoot over some links I'd be grateful!

[#] Fri Aug 11 2023 14:04:11 EDT from Nurb432

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According to a federal prosecutor or judge ( not sure which. i have to look more )  the 1st amendment only apply if you work for an approve traditional media outlet. 

They are putting a gag order on a guy 'hes just a YouTuber so should not be able to publish those things' for reporting on a case where the defending is being railroaded.  ( and not that it matters, hes not just a YouTuber, he also writes too..



[#] Fri Aug 11 2023 19:46:31 EDT from zelgomer

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2023-08-11 18:04 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
According to a federal prosecutor or judge ( not sure which. i have
to look more )  the 1st amendment only apply if you work for an
approve traditional media outlet. 

They are putting a gag order on a guy 'hes just a YouTuber so should
not be able to publish those things' for reporting on a case where
the defending is being railroaded.  ( and not that it matters, hes
not just a YouTuber, he also writes too..


Yes, and the case in particular that he's reporting on is the Matt Hoover case where he's been convicted of selling "machine guns" which are pieces of solid sheet metal with a design etched into them.

This is just a gift that keeps on giving.

[#] Fri Aug 11 2023 21:13:01 EDT from Nurb432

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Ya i wasn't going to get into the weeds with the case, but, Matt's free speech was squelched too.  Printed stuff on a piece of metal. Not cut. Speech. No different than a book..  But.... I heard they now want to ban 'gun plans' in general....  

 

The country is gone. 



[#] Thu Aug 24 2023 18:49:28 EDT from Nurb432

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Well, this is bad. Moving blocking sites from DNS level to the App level ( and the network stack once someone notices ) because they dont like what a site 'says'. 

And would shut down opensource projects. 

 

https://thenextweb.com/news/french-law-threatens-free-internet-warns-mozilla



[#] Thu Aug 24 2023 20:09:26 EDT from nonservator

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Says Mozilla, who happily agree with Cloudflare that some websites shouldn't be allowed.



[#] Fri Aug 25 2023 09:17:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Mozilla demonstrated that they are anti-free-speech the moment they fired Brendan Eich.

It isn't surprising that this is coming from France. There aren't a lot of French people left in France. Most of this comes from the type of people who think blasphemy laws are awesome because they worship the false prophet muhammad.

[#] Fri Aug 25 2023 11:08:02 EDT from Nurb432

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regardless of why/who/what/etc  its a very very dangerous precedent if it goes thru, and they attempt enforcement.



[#] Fri Aug 25 2023 14:28:20 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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false prophet mooporkmad

Fri Aug 25 2023 09:17:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Mozilla demonstrated that they are anti-free-speech the moment they fired Brendan Eich.

It isn't surprising that this is coming from France. There aren't a lot of French people left in France. Most of this comes from the type of people who think blasphemy laws are awesome because they worship the false prophet muhammad.

 



[#] Sun Aug 27 2023 16:41:44 EDT from darknetuser

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2023-08-24 18:49 from Nurb432
Well, this is bad. Moving blocking sites from DNS level to the App
level ( and the network stack once someone notices ) because they
dont like what a site 'says'. 

And would shut down opensource projects. 

 

https://thenextweb.com/news/french-law-threatens-free-internet-warns-m

ozilla


I bet they would make a censored browser for distribution in france and then people would just patch the censoring out.

[#] Sun Aug 27 2023 17:27:35 EDT from Nurb432

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Right that is the easy answer, but more likely it will be required to be baked into their core product or they still violate the law, due to the risk of patches. ( and in the case of google, they have to pull chromium  )

And yes i could be getting worked up over nothing, but it would be yet one more step towards total censorship.

Sun Aug 27 2023 04:41:44 PM EDT from darknetuser

I bet they would make a censored browser for distribution in france and then people would just patch the censoring out.

 



[#] Sat Sep 02 2023 03:05:24 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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Code of Conduct Kitty - CoCK



[#] Mon Sep 04 2023 22:30:05 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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false prophet mooporkmad

Yeah. That guy. If someone wants to worship him in peace that's their perogative, but may all who censor free people in his name be buried in pig entrails and burn in hell with the sons of Iblis.

As far as attempts to bury open software and open standards ... it's been tried, it always fails.

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