And back to my original point, thinking that a Chromebook is Linux is just a way to try and boost the Linux desktop paradigm. It's no more Linux (other than a kernel) than my Commodore PET.
And I like simple systems. But there are times you need to dig under the hood, and the Chromebook has removed that.
Maybe you're just hostile towards users. ;)
Oh and here's a Commodore PET running Linux: http://www.technewsworld.com/story/82273.html
It's the modern dumb terminal.
You don't think a Chromebook is a real computer, full stop.
Actually come to think of it, do you think of a tablet as a "computer"?
Tue May 31 2016 04:55:39 PM EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ UncensoredIt's the modern dumb terminal.
I actually like that description. Years ago, one of the people that owned the company I worked for said that in the not to distant future everything would be software as a service. Google Docs, that sort of thing. I am beginning to think he is correct. It might be a modern dumb terminal but it is getting to that point.
I'll say this, most tablets are more useful than the Chromebook.
Not surprising to hear this, since Apple makes a tablet.
A tablet, a phone, a chromebook, all are real computers. All have complete operating systems and can run arbitrary software.
I'd draw the line between "real" and "toy" computer somewhere near full access to a file explorer and unhindered multitasking. This probably involves a window manager. Maybe adding toolchain access in the mix.
Phones and tablets basically operate like a browser. You have multiple, independent tabs and only one of them really is in the foreground. Maybe splitscreen for two apps, if your device is posh and the OS permits it. But they do not have a "full OS", neither android nor ios. And the arbitrariness of the software depends, you basically get your apps from a store on mobile devices, sideloading is a thing of past Symbian times and for people that rooted their android. Still, it is basically fart apps, a dumbed down office and some pixelpushing stuff.
Maybe this is just and old paradigma, but people are used to spending lots of time with an explorer, "opening a file" (so that the program is triggered by mime type) instead of "opening an app" and then choosing what file to modify, if it is permitted at all. Sure, you can "share" a file via some ways on a tablet, but the whole workflow is different.
This is all nitpicking. What should be clear is that everyone has a different idea about what constitutes a "real computer." (Although most of what I'm reading here is just "It's a real computer if my favorite vendor makes one.")
What *ought* to be clear is that computing has a consistent history of "that's not a real computer" taking over the market.
No, this is not nitpicking and it is not about favorite vendors, we can move this discussion to techie talk, if that makes you feel less bias. It is about the limits of interaction, which are harsher on a phone or tablet (or in a browser, for that matter). But these limits are there, even if you put android on a full scale x64 desktop or your favorite supercomputer that is supported by the kernel.
Again, my criteria, as a list, so it is more obvious for others that you keep ignoring them. ;)
- Unhindered Multitasking (as many tasks as the user likes, no freezing if an app is moved to the background)
- Open files via an explorer vs open an app and let the app limit you wether you save a real file somewhere or export it to some cloud
- multiple windows (aka open apps), organized as you like vs one fullscreen app at a time, maybe two with splitscreen
People are used to this stuff since Windows3.1 became hot shit (or from the various other systems, Amiga Workbench, etc.). This is possible in gnu/linux, windows and osx. It is not possible in ios, android and windows mobile (at least not without additional modification). It has nothing to do with the hardware, most of the limits are imposed by the software.
And my comment about tablets had nothing to do with Apple. A Chromebook NEEDS to be connected to the network to be functional. That will change soon, but for now a Chromebook is a doorstop without internet access. And there's still plenty of places where a connection is difficult or impossible.
At least with either Android of iOS devices, they're more limited without the network, but they're still useful.