so to install homebrew you have to have xcode? I wonder how big that beast is.  (trying something today...)

Well that was a failure. after several hours to erase, load OSX from internet, get brew installed, and what seemed like forever to compile  virt-manager .. : "you are using older OSX. f-off and dont ask for help"  i guess after 2 years after an OS upgrade all the stuff want quits working with a hard stop, not just a 'you are not really supported, good luck'

Not sure if i can force an upgrade manually or not. Or if i even want to bother.  All i was trying to do is see if i could get QEMU to run, with intent to do the same with my shop laptop if the test went well.  Getting tired of having to carry around a WiFi dongle if i go to a meeting.  Trying to get that native POS T2 stuff running under Linux was a lost cause.  Barely got the keyboard working, with its proprietary driver ( really Apple? its a freaking keyboard. f-off with your lock-in )

Perhaps i should just toss in the towel now and just keep carrying around the dongle. Don't break what works. ( even tho i dont dare try to upgrade the kernel i have installed as will break the keyboard and have to fight with that again )

in another year, if i'm still around, i wont need my windows VM anymore anyway. VDI will do all i need. ( actually it would now, but my main app backend is running thru a site to site vpn, and they wont open that up to VDI "machines" and i need to do SQL to its DB. If i try to VPN to get around that, then the VDI loses *all* network.  And no, they wont fix that either.  "security reasons". And yes, trying to do a 'hop' to a ;local server desktop then SQL across the VPN is possible, but its frowned upon and adds a lot of overhead for me.

I hate the modern day Apple. 

I hate computers.

I need out of this business.

Grrrr

What about QEMU? Did it install it with it or was it separate and dont know if it works?  That is the 2nd piece that i need.  I already reloaded the 'test' laptop and OSX is gone, but if you think that works too i can put OSX back on.  ( its new enough to load from internet, so its just a 'waiting' game, not a 'hard' game. )

Other than those 2 items, i dont really care what else it can run. I can always run a Debian VM if i want something 'odd'.

And yes i know i can use QEMU with CLI tools, but i need to run a desktop locally, so might as well install virt-manager since it does all that for me on its own.  ( and will make the transfer of my shop VM painless.. 'migrate it off to a temp server, reload. then migrate it back )

Sun Oct 08 2023 17:53:28 EDT from fandarel

I don't have a need for virt-manager at the moment but I did a test install and it seems 

Ya i know. But that is going to be part of the testing before i consider doing this to my shop laptop.   But since its on the same 'series' of CPU ( both intel ) it wont be as bad as trying to do X86 on a mac m2. 

There may be some tricks involved under the hood that i lose if i move to OSX, but running it on native Linux, the windows VM isn't that bad. I didnt go with real KVM for a couple of reasons  ( not worth getting into here )

Mon Oct 09 2023 10:48:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

QEMU is not hardware-accelerated virtualization; it's just a CPU emulator.
So it'll be really slow.

Its for a widows 10vm. That i cant move to another VM platform.(licensing )

Mon Oct 09 2023 12:31:37 EDT from LoanShark

It's possible to run Linux under Rosetta on Mac. Might perform better than qemu (JIT compilation?)

its an intel. i7 of some sort. The last model i believe. Tho i could be wrong on that.   

Id never try this on an M1/M2. 

Mon Oct 09 2023 18:59:55 EDT from LoanShark

Oh, is this an Intel mac or ARM?

Well macports has qemu too. so i guess ill give it a shot..  Home today so i can do it. At office, you have to login to WiFi or Ethernet if its not an 'approved' device with proper invasive software installed, and last time i wanted to do that, no way to get a login page using recovery. Ended up leaving early that day, no computer.

And with this time it wants to install mavericks, not big sur.. grr have to figure out what is up with that.

Well, it did install both without yelling at me. ( and of course tons of dependencies )

But i do need to see how to get services to start at boot, and see why X11 isn't working right as its not setting display variable. ( at the least, might be more issues after that )

I cant reload the VM due to license issues.  Even changing  the CPU type will kill it .

Thu Oct 12 2023 09:57:17 EDT from LoanShark

try virtualbox. should use actual virtualization. though I'd think qemu would too.

I know i can look, and will, but thought id ask too;

Guy at work uses OSX. He has been remoting into a windows server to get to ADUC just to look up group memberships on a person.  Seems outlook for oSX wont show that  ( windows fat client will ) so looking for an alternative for him.  I have done it in python on linux, but a GUI would be nice, and im too lazy to write one for him :) . 

lol. 

But true

lWed Oct 18 2023 16:39:00 EDT from darknetuser

People with flagship phones may make higher resolution pictures but that does not make a difference in the end because a good picture of your ice cream is about as useful as a bad picture of your ice cream.