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[#] Tue Mar 24 2015 06:11:59 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Outbound mail beeing stuck without error

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Tue Mar 24 2015 05:09:53 EDTfrom pusaken @ Uncensored Subject: Outbound mail beeing stuck without error

Hello everyone,

I am having trouble with my outbound smtp-queue. Since my smarthost provider enforced higher security standards I had to switch to google. Therefore I changed my smarthost configuration acccordingly, and - after a message from google pointing out that a "less secure app" tried to send mail and was blocked - I lessened the google account preferences to allow less secure access.

But now the outbound smtp queue behaves oddly. New items are added with "next attempt" in Jan 1970 (which is ok I think) but they are not processed. Instead they sit there waiting for santa clause or someone else. There is no outbound error (like connection refused or connection interrupted, which I got while the smarthost was blocking citadel).

the 1970 date is simply unset. So on next attempt it should be picked.

Actually one mail accidentially got sent tonight - I don't know why this one got through.

Is there a way to clean the message queue? When will a send attempt be made, when the date reads Jan 1970?

you can delete the mails using the webinterface one by one, or if you want to delete all of them quick see

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:recover#clearingthesituation

Might a complete configuration reset of citadel help? How can I accomplish that?

Thanks for your help,

kindest regards,

Pusaken

I guess some mail queue jobs are still stuck in process state - unless they're terminated no new attempt will be done.

Please try to restart citserver.

In general, there is a 'resend all mail now' - button in the mailqueue admin interface.



[#] Tue Mar 24 2015 10:34:16 EDT from harryc @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Outbound mail beeing stuck without error

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If I was in your spot, I would check these two things:

 

1) I had a certificate approved by a known authority (there are several for less than $10/year).  RSA is the most widely accepted. Mozilla has started to deprecate DSA.

 

2) I got a static IP address set up so the 'reverse dns' lookup (hosted by the ISP) points to your domain name.

 

3)  Use one of the many free 'mail host testing sites' to check other matters and correct as many as you can.  SPF is a biggie.

You get those two things done and every system everywhere will accept your mail so long as it's not a spam source.

 

 



[#] Tue Mar 24 2015 10:39:53 EDT from harryc @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Can we seperate the citadeladminbackendfromfrontend webcit?

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re: Webcit

 

Notice that Thunderbird with the Lightening calendaring addon, among many others is a very very functional 'front end' to citadel for those who don't like webcit.  If having a web interface is essential, any out there that use php and can deal with an IMAP back end work 100%.  POP3 is also an option, but less capable.

The biggest beauty of citadel is in the server.  Webcit does all the administration stuff you'd need, there is some tech/admin stuff that can only be done at the command line or using the text client but that's mostly disaster recovery, migrating to new systems, etc.  You could imagine limiting webcit to admin use, and using other open-source choices for front ends.

 

 

 

 



[#] Tue Mar 24 2015 11:15:51 EDT from "heather" <heather@trans-world.org> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Can we seperate thecitadeladminbackendfromfrontend webcit?

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I don't understand, do you mean I can use Thunderbird to replace the
front end citadel webmail part?????



On 2015-03-24 09:39, harryc wrote:
re: Webcit

Notice that Thunderbird with the Lightening calendaring addon, among
many others is a very very functional 'front end' to citadel for those
who don't like webcit. If having a web interface is essential, any
out there that use php and can deal with an IMAP back end work 100%.
POP3 is also an option, but less capable.

The biggest beauty of citadel is in the server. Webcit does all the
administration stuff you'd need, there is some tech/admin stuff that
can only be done at the command line or using the text client but
that's mostly disaster recovery, migrating to new systems, etc. You
could imagine limiting webcit to admin use, and using other
open-source choices for front ends.

[#] Tue Mar 24 2015 17:00:38 EDT from "Motty Cruz" <motty.cruz@gmail.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: how to save month worth of incoming email for all users

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Hello All,
I would like to use Citadel, it meets all the requirements my customer
has, except they want to be able to save a month worth of incoming email
in case someone deletes an email. any suggestions?

Thanks,
motty

[#] Wed Mar 25 2015 09:44:31 EDT from harryc @ Uncensored to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: how to save month worth of incoming email for all users

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On 03/24/2015 04:00 PM, Motty Cruz wrote:

Hello All,
I would like to use Citadel, it meets all the requirements my customer
has, except they want to be able to save a month worth of incoming
email in case someone deletes an email. any suggestions?

Thanks,
motty

Create a 'journaling' email destination, either on another citadel
server or some email client that can auto-purge messages 30+ days old.

[#] Wed Mar 25 2015 09:52:14 EDT from harryc @ Uncensored to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Can we seperate thecitadeladminbackendfromfrontendwebcit?

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On 03/24/2015 10:15 AM, heather wrote:

I don't understand, do you mean I can use Thunderbird to replace the
front end citadel webmail part?????



On 2015-03-24 09:39, harryc wrote:
re: Webcit

Notice that Thunderbird with the Lightening calendaring addon, among
many others is a very very functional 'front end' to citadel for those
who don't like webcit. If having a web interface is essential, any
out there that use php and can deal with an IMAP back end work 100%.
POP3 is also an option, but less capable.

The biggest beauty of citadel is in the server. Webcit does all the
administration stuff you'd need, there is some tech/admin stuff that
can only be done at the command line or using the text client but
that's mostly disaster recovery, migrating to new systems, etc. You
could imagine limiting webcit to admin use, and using other
open-source choices for front ends.


Well, 'replace' is a strong word. The webcit front end is hard to beat
for reading news and conversation stream sort of posts. What citadel
would call 'rooms'. However I use Thunderbird as my citadel browser for
all the stuff you'd normally call 'private email'. Citadel does a good
job supporting the most functional email server protocol supporting
email readers: imap. Imap's approach is that the email and folders for
each reader are maintained on the server, the better to support email
readers who use more than one device to access their content.

And remember that webcit is the way most will set up 'I'm on vacation
now' and related autorespons things.

And there's an older protocol that generally is used to transfer email
permanently from servers like citadel to clients, pop3, that citadel
also supports. That one is better suited to folks who have only one
computer they use to access email. It's also a better choice for folks
who have computers that are regularly backed up and citadel servers that
are not regularly backed up.

[#] Wed Mar 25 2015 11:17:50 EDT from masscream @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel jabber

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Hello,

I need an advice please regarding Citadel jabber function and connection via pidgin client. I am running Citadel 8.24 with WebCit 8.24, server build 8.2 on ubuntu server edition. I have tried connecting to my user account via pidgin, but it seems to not work. My port 5222 which is also set as a default jabber port is opened on my router as well as ports for other functional services. In pidgin settings/advanced I choose security "Use encryption if available" (the other options do not work as well) and I also tick Allow plaintext option (even if not). Despite that settings everytime I try to connect i get "Unknown error". Pidgin Debug log shows me this

(16:02:01) jabber: Recv (ssl)(37): <iq type="error" id="purple152fa73e">
(16:02:01) jabber: Recv (ssl)(41): <error>Don't know howto do 'set'!</error>
(16:02:01) jabber: Recv (ssl)(5): </iq>
(16:02:01) connection: purple_connection_error_reason called with NULL description
(16:02:01) connection: Connection error on 0x7ff96e164310 (reason: 0 description: Unknown error)
(16:02:01) account: Disconnecting account masscream@xmpp.*****.net/ (0x7ff96f1d4530)
(16:02:01) connection: Disconnecting connection 0x7ff96e164310

It is not only pidgin client which has trouble connecting to citadel as a xmpp server and I can't also connect to your server (uncensored.citadel.org) with same trouble. Am I doing anything wrong or is it some kind of issue? Please, help.

 

Tomas



[#] Fri Mar 27 2015 14:12:36 EDT from "Motty Cruz" <motty.cruz@gmail.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org, Motty Cruz <motty.cruz@gmail.com>

Subject: Temporary MTA failure on relaying Amavisd-new Citadel Groupware onUbuntu 14.04

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Hello,
I am trying to configure Amavisd-new with Citadel. I installed Citadel
on Ubuntu using the following guide:
https://www.linode.com/docs/email/citadel/email-with-citadel-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin

I enable spamassassin, but I can't figure out how to configure Citadel
to use Amavisd-new. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Motty

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