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[#] Wed Aug 10 2016 00:30:54 EDT from DataPacRat @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Exporting Citadel to plain-text backups?

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Tue Aug 09 2016 07:16:14 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Exporting Citadel to plain-text backups?

 

 

But it occurs to me that maybe I can get the best of both worlds. I seem to recall, in the distant past, people who made bridges between email and usenet, allowing people to use widespread email services to interact with newsgroups even if their ISP didn't allow NNTP. Perhaps somebody here knows of a way in which the various messages posted to a Citadel room could be sent to a newsserver daemon on the same machine, such as INN, which would give me the plaintext backups that are the whole point of this project.

The beginnings of a read-only NNTP server are present in Citadel, but I wonder if another feature of the system might be better suited to your need.  We have a message journaling feature [ http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:journaling ] that was designed with retention and archiving in mind.  This feature was actually commissioned by a customer of a hosting company that was using Citadel and needed to permanently retain all messages on an archive service for compliance purposes.



And that's exactly the sort of answer I was hoping for: providing a solution I wouldn't have been able to find on my own in any reasonable length time. :) It looks like my overall problem can now be reduced to "Use Citadel, plus set up an email address for journalling for long-term archiving", which is really less of a 'problem' than it is a 'decide which mail server works the best with Maildir storage'.

If you have any further advice, I'm more than happy to learn.

Or, depending on how much more quickly you can accomplish Citadel-related tasks than I, it might even be worth both our whiles for me to ask if you could assemble an ISO with such fiddly bits already configured, and ready to slide into some Raspberry Pis or VMs to start mirroring with each other. I honestly have no idea how long that might take you; would you be interested in continuing this conversation in private, whether here through Citadel, or email, or some other medium? (And if you have no interest, then I still thank you for everything you've written so far.)

 


Thank you for your time,
--
DataPacRat
"Then again, maybe I'm wrong"



[#] Wed Aug 10 2016 17:12:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Exporting Citadel to plain-text backups?

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The software you choose for archival depends on the reason for archival.
If it's for compliance purposes, auditors like to see something that at least purports to make the archived messages non-editable and non-deletable once they're committed to the data store. If it's just to have a searchable data warehouse, then pretty much anything will work.

In this case you probably do *not* want the archive server to be a Citadel because you want the archive to be in plain text, plus Citadel is really intended to be a highly interactive service rather than a data warehouse.

[#] Thu Aug 11 2016 17:36:33 EDT from webwatt @ Uncensored

Subject: Failed install on CENTOS 7

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Failed on installing libcitadel! PLEASE HELP!

lib/stringbuf.c:3142:39: error: request for member 'avail_in' in something not a structure or union
     In->Buf->BufUsed = stream->zstream.avail_in;
                                       ^
lib/stringbuf.c:3149:41: error: request for member 'avail_in' in something not a structure or union
      (In->Buf->BufUsed - stream->zstream.avail_in);
                                         ^
gmake: *** [lib/stringbuf.lo] Error 1
Operating system: Linux RedHat 7.2.1511(Core 3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64 x86_64)



[#] Thu Aug 11 2016 17:40:09 EDT from webwatt @ Uncensored

Subject: Failed install on CENTOS 7

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Failed install at Installing libcitadel :-(

from install log:

lib/stringbuf.c:3142:39: error: request for member 'avail_in' in something not a structure or union
     In->Buf->BufUsed = stream->zstream.avail_in;
                                       ^
lib/stringbuf.c:3149:41: error: request for member 'avail_in' in something not a structure or union
      (In->Buf->BufUsed - stream->zstream.avail_in);
                                         ^
gmake: *** [lib/stringbuf.lo] Error 1
Operating system: Linux RedHat 7.2.1511(Core 3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64 x86_64)

 

PLEASE HELP!



[#] Thu Aug 11 2016 18:52:30 EDT from webwatt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Failed install on CENTOS 7

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Since I have seen others with this issue and no answers.

Make sure to install all the prereqs first.  Not on all the install guides, but this should resolve the issue.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:prereq-redhat.html



[#] Fri Aug 12 2016 11:29:41 EDT from webwatt @ Uncensored

Subject: WebCit failed install

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installing on Centos 7.2

curl http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sh

prereqs have been met but failes on Installing WebCit.

Here is the end of the log:

WebCit will be built with national language support.
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating po/webcit/Makefile
config.status: creating tests/Makefile
config.status: creating sysdep.h
configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --with-libical
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Character set conversion support: yes
National language support:        yes


Compiler: gcc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include -g -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -D_REENTRANT -c -o buildinfo
Linker: gcc -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -lssl -lcrypto -lexpat -lcitadel -lical -lz -lpthread

CC webserver.c
In file included from webserver.c:13:0:
webcit.h:324:1: error: expected identifier or '(' before '<<' token
 <<<<<<< HEAD
 ^
webcit.h:338:28: error: 'eNONE' undeclared here (not in a function)
 extern const char *ReqStrs[eNONE];
                            ^
webcit.h:731:1: error: expected identifier or '(' before '==' token
 =======
 ^
webcit.h:734:0: warning: "MAX_WORKER_THREADS" redefined [enabled by default]
 #define MAX_WORKER_THREADS 32  // Maximum number of worker threads permitted to exist
 ^
In file included from webserver.c:13:0:
webcit.h:137:0: note: this is the location of the previous definition
 #define MAX_WORKER_THREADS 250
 ^
In file included from webserver.c:13:0:
webcit.h:742:1: error: expected identifier or '(' before '>>' token
 >>>>>>> af64ffb... textclient: don't try to stat citadel.config; it doesn't exist anymore.
 ^
webcit.h:742:35: warning: character constant too long for its type [enabled by default]
 >>>>>>> af64ffb... textclient: don't try to stat citadel.config; it doesn't exist anymore.
                                   ^
webserver.c:28:12: error: conflicting types for 'webcit_tcp_server'
 extern int webcit_tcp_server(char *ip_addr, int port_number, int queue_len);
            ^
In file included from webserver.c:13:0:
webcit.h:737:5: note: previous declaration of 'webcit_tcp_server' was here
 int webcit_tcp_server(const char *ip_addr, int port_number, int queue_len);
     ^
webserver.c:34:13: error: conflicting types for 'worker_entry'
 extern void worker_entry(void);
             ^
In file included from webserver.c:13:0:
webcit.h:741:6: note: previous declaration of 'worker_entry' was here
 void worker_entry(int *pointer_to_master_socket);
      ^
gmake: *** [webserver.o] Error 1
Operating system: Linux RedHat 7.2.1511(Core 3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64 x86_64)




[#] Sat Aug 13 2016 14:13:38 EDT from bbs1970 @ Uncensored

Subject: same problem on debian

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Hi all,

same problem with easy install while compiling webcit on debian.

CC webserver.c

In file included from webserver.c:13:0:

webcit.h:324:1: error: expected identifier or '(' before '<<' token

 <<<<<<< HEAD

.....
 
void worker_entry(int *pointer_to_master_socket);
      ^
Makefile:91: recipe for target 'webserver.o' failed
make: *** [webserver.o] Error 1
Operating system: Linux Debian 8.5 ( 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64)
 
 
and on my raspberry pi too:
 
      ^
Makefile:91: recipe for target 'webserver.o' failed
make: *** [webserver.o] Error 1
Operating system: Linux Debian 8.0 ( 4.1.13+ armv6l)
 
 
regards
bbs1970
 
 
 
 


[#] Mon Aug 22 2016 08:57:58 EDT from marisag @ Uncensored

Subject: Having webkit build issues on ubuntu 14.04 too

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Im having the same issue on ubuntu 14.04. Please help!



[#] Mon Aug 22 2016 09:00:20 EDT from marisag @ Uncensored

Subject: Getting the same error building webcit on ubuntu 14.04

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Im having the same issue on ubuntu 14.04, can't build webcit. Please help!



[#] Mon Aug 22 2016 09:07:56 EDT from marisag @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Having webkit build issues on ubuntu 14.04 too

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And I meant webcit not webkit, naturally :)



[#] Mon Aug 22 2016 09:18:58 EDT from marisag @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Getting the same error building webcit on ubuntu 14.04

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CC webserver.c

In file included from webserver.c:13:0:

webcit.h:324:1: error: expected identifier or '(' before '<<' token

 <<<<<<< HEAD

 ^

webcit.h:338:28: error: 'eNONE' undeclared here (not in a function)

 extern const char *ReqStrs[eNONE];

                            ^

webcit.h:731:1: error: expected identifier or '(' before '==' token

 =======

 ^

webcit.h:734:0: warning: "MAX_WORKER_THREADS" redefined [enabled by default]

 #define MAX_WORKER_THREADS 32  // Maximum number of worker threads permitted to exist

 ^

In file included from webserver.c:13:0:

webcit.h:137:0: note: this is the location of the previous definition

 #define MAX_WORKER_THREADS 250

 ^

In file included from webserver.c:13:0:

webcit.h:742:1: error: expected identifier or '(' before '>>' token

 >>>>>>> af64ffb... textclient: don't try to stat citadel.config; it doesn't exist anymore.

 ^

webcit.h:742:35: warning: character constant too long for its type [enabled by default]

 >>>>>>> af64ffb... textclient: don't try to stat citadel.config; it doesn't exist anymore.

                                   ^

webserver.c:28:12: error: conflicting types for 'webcit_tcp_server'

 extern int webcit_tcp_server(char *ip_addr, int port_number, int queue_len);

            ^

 

In file included from webserver.c:13:0:



[#] Mon Aug 22 2016 11:06:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: [FIXED] Re: Getting the same error building webcit on ubuntu 14.04

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This has been verified as an error in the tarball. Somehow a diff from a different build leaked into git master. Probably my fault.

IT HAS BEEN FIXED -- please try the build again!

[#] Mon Aug 22 2016 11:33:37 EDT from kbend @ Uncensored

Subject: Configuring smart host relay sender dependent

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Hi,

I'm tyring to send emails vie my different smtp providers (let's call them a.com and b.com).

 

The only accept a login thru TLS so I did use stunnel (which works fine with one domain). So I was following the steps here http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:relay#configuringperuserrelay to set this up.

Whatever I configure I end up with an error: 

SMTPC:IO[0]CC[7]S[9461][1] Delivery failed permanently; giving up. Time[0.000000s] Recipient <testuser> @ <hotmail.de> (test) Status message: No relay configured matching myusername / myinternetaddress@a.com

I tried the following the smart host field:

myusername myuser:mypassword@127.0.0.1:8025 (stunnel port)

myinternetaddress@a.com myuser:mypassword@127.0.0.1:8025 

myinternetaddress%40a.com myuser:mypassword@127.0.0.1:8025

"myuser/myinternetaddress@a.com" myuser:mypassword@127.0.0.1:8025 

 

but nothing worked so far. Has somebody a working example?

 

Kind regards

Klaus



[#] Wed Aug 24 2016 17:22:24 EDT from axilbits @ Uncensored

Subject: OpenID, Google+ Yahoo, AOL, logins

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Hello,

I searched through the FAQ and the documentation on the Citadel.org. and I tried web searches  ( and looked at the command line stuff) to find the answer to the following question.

How do you turn off OpenID, Google+, Yahoo and AOL so users cannot login using those features and  so these features do not appear on the login screen?

I realize that I can customize the login page and maybe  remove it there, but before I headed down that path I wanted to know if there was a setting somewhere?

Thanks

 

 

 



[#] Wed Aug 24 2016 22:01:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: OpenID, Google+ Yahoo, AOL, logins

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How do you turn off OpenID, Google+, Yahoo and AOL so users cannot
login using those features and  so these features do not appear on
the login screen?

Disable self-service user creation. If users cannot create accounts at all, they will not be offered the options to create accounts with OpenID.

[#] Fri Aug 26 2016 06:24:37 EDT from lodger @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [FIXED] Re: Getting the same error building webcit on ubuntu 14.04

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Just to confirm: the easy-install process now works again. WebCit is built without errors and the execption / segfault that ocurred with the setup during easy-install is also gone. Everything working again. Thank you for your support! :)

 

Mon Aug 22 2016 11:06:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: [FIXED] Re: Getting the same error building webcit on ubuntu 14.04

This has been verified as an error in the tarball. Somehow a diff from a different build leaked into git master. Probably my fault.

IT HAS BEEN FIXED -- please try the build again!

 



[#] Fri Aug 26 2016 12:36:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [FIXED] Re: Getting the same error building webcit on ubuntu 14.04

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Just to confirm: the easy-install process now works again. WebCit is built without errors and the execption / segfault that ocurred with the setup during easy-install is also gone. Everything working again. Thank you for your support! :)

Glad to hear it.  Thanks for reporting back.  Enjoy your Citadel installation.



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