Neither did i, looked it up, seems like a alternative to 'docker desktop' for OSX devices. 

Sun Jun 28 2026 14:17:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: How to stop and start Citadel in docker

I'm glad you figured it out because I have no idea what any of those things are. :)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

Thank you,

  --ftest

XMPP Clients will work with Citadel, but not in SSL and I don't recommend to use it. XMPP Service is not federated, its stand alone. Its better to install a free XMPP Server or Service without Citadel. 

Greetings

Mike

Di Jul 07 2026 16:36:56 EDT von ftest Betreff: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

 

Thank you,

  --ftest

OpenFire is pretty easy to setup, and is federated.  I know citadel will become federated someday, but unsure about xmpp federation, may just be mastodon style instead.  

I recommend Prosody as XMPP Server.

Di Jul 07 2026 16:36:56 EDT von ftest Betreff: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

 

Thank you,

  --ftest

Tue Jul 07 2026 18:34:32 EDT from Motobike Subject: Re: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

XMPP Clients will work with Citadel, but not in SSL and I don't recommend to use it. XMPP Service is not federated, its stand alone. Its better to install a free XMPP Server or Service without Citadel. 

Greetings

Mike

 

Di Jul 07 2026 16:36:56 EDT von ftest Betreff: General Question (XMPP/Jabber)

Hello! I'm looking at Citadel as software to host on my domain for a small group of my friends and I to use. Having included chat functionality is one of the features I'm looking at, so I created this account to test XMPP chatting. However, when logging into a client like converse.js, I cannot send messages outward to my XMPP account on a different server.

My question is this;

If I set up my own Citadel instance, will the XMPP messages sent federate with other XMPP servers?

 

Thank you,

  --ftest

 

Ah well. I appreciate the answer none the less.