Thu May 23 2013 16:46:41 EDT from maylin @ Uncensored Subject: Allow Mail from postini

How can I allow Citadel to allow relaying from Postini or any other mail filtering service
? This requires the ability to allow relaying from certain IPs ...how can I do this?

since postini is acting as a relay (and not relaying through your citadel), it doesn't claim to be your domain (afaik?) but the sender domain.

It should work out of the box.

Thu May 23 2013 10:30:16 EDT from JoshMST @ Uncensored Subject: Adding recipient column to sent mail list

I have run around and I am unable to find a solution to this.

In the sent email room, we have the standard 3 columns.  Subject, sender, and date.  I would really like to add recipient.  Seems sorta silly to have "sender" in the sent room, as it is all you.

as uncompfy as it is, there currently is no solution to this.

Thu May 23 2013 10:05:46 EDT from egyas @ Uncensored Subject: Citadel Chat w/ Pidgin

I have just installed Citadel on a RHEL6.2 system, and it seems to be working correctly.  I have email working, and IM chat using Pidgin (XMPP).  However, I cannot get Pidgin to access the "Chat" area of Citadel.  I am guessing it's something borked in my Pidgin config, but I'm not sure where.  Whenever I select "Get Room List" it asks me to "Enter a Conference Server" to query.  No matter what I put there (or leave blank) I get the same error, "Invalid Server".

Can anyone assist me with this?  Am I trying to access a function (IRC-like Chat room) that doesn't exist (rather, do it only exist in the web GUI?)?  Thoughts?

citadel currently only maps peer-to-peer chats to xmpp. room chattings is only supported in webcit and the commandline client.

How can I allow Citadel to allow relaying from Postini or any other mail filtering service
? This requires the ability to allow relaying from certain IPs ...how can I do this?

I have run around and I am unable to find a solution to this.

 

In the sent email room, we have the standard 3 columns.  Subject, sender, and date.  I would really like to add recipient.  Seems sorta silly to have "sender" in the sent room, as it is all you.

I have just installed Citadel on a RHEL6.2 system, and it seems to be working correctly.  I have email working, and IM chat using Pidgin (XMPP).  However, I cannot get Pidgin to access the "Chat" area of Citadel.  I am guessing it's something borked in my Pidgin config, but I'm not sure where.  Whenever I select "Get Room List" it asks me to "Enter a Conference Server" to query.  No matter what I put there (or leave blank) I get the same error, "Invalid Server".

 

Can anyone assist me with this?  Am I trying to access a function (IRC-like Chat room) that doesn't exist (rather, do it only exist in the web GUI?)?  Thoughts?

 

Wed May 22 2013 13:11:42 EDTfrom arthur @ Uncensored Subject: mail forwarding - emails get lost

Hi there,

i've been using citadel for about a month now and have run into one severe problem:

My setup is that i have a vserver which hosts 2 domains with some mail accounts. all mail accounts are configured to
redirect all incoming mail (2 rules: All -> forward to mymail@gmail.com -> continue -> All -> keep -> stop) to my
gmail account and additionally save them in the user's inbox (in citadel).
This works usually just fine, i have my mails in gmail and as a sort of backup in citadel, too.

now the problem: some mails don't seem to be forwarded. There is no sort of pattern or typical characteristics,
its just that about 1 of 15 mails doesn't get forwarded to my gmail account (but is stored in the citadel inbox).
This is really shitty, as i did't recognize this problem because most of my mails work fine, but after i checked
the inbox in citadel there where several important mails i didn't get (I use Gmail instead of citadel for its convenience).

I've checked the logs (Ubuntu 12.04), it just seems to work normal (with spamassassin) and no errors whatsoever...
any ideas how to fix this?

 

 

TL,DR: Mail in citadel isn't alway forwarded to gmail, but always saved in citadels inbox. no errors in logs.

regards,

Arthur

(Another idea would be to let Gmail fetch my mail via pop3 - this doesn't work cause gmail doesn't accept mail from hosts with selfsigned ssl-certs)

there is no obstacle installing ssl certificates - be it self generated or purchased from a commercial vendor.

Wed May 22 2013 10:01:04 EDT from spvance @ Uncensored Subject: Global Signature

I would like to attach a signature to all mail sent from our server.  It's a fresh install on Ubuntu server 13.04 using the version in the Ubuntu repository.

citadel only has mechanisms to configure this per user when using webcit to compose mails.

you can do this by installing a postfix, and configuring it as outbound relay; install a milter with postfix which does the attaching.

Imho & experience force-adding signatures always ends up producing bad user experiences most of the time (html mails anyone?).

Hi there,

i've been using citadel for about a month now and have run into one severe problem:

My setup is that i have a vserver which hosts 2 domains with some mail accounts. all mail accounts are configured to
redirect all incoming mail (2 rules: All -> forward to mymail@gmail.com -> continue -> All -> keep -> stop) to my
gmail account and additionally save them in the user's inbox (in citadel).
This works usually just fine, i have my mails in gmail and as a sort of backup in citadel, too.

now the problem: some mails don't seem to be forwarded. There is no sort of pattern or typical characteristics,
its just that about 1 of 15 mails doesn't get forwarded to my gmail account (but is stored in the citadel inbox).
This is really shitty, as i did't recognize this problem because most of my mails work fine, but after i checked
the inbox in citadel there where several important mails i didn't get (I use Gmail instead of citadel for its convenience).

I've checked the logs (Ubuntu 12.04), it just seems to work normal (with spamassassin) and no errors whatsoever...
any ideas how to fix this?

TL,DR: Mail in citadel isn't alway forwarded to gmail, but always saved in citadels inbox. no errors in logs.

regards,

Arthur

 

(Another idea would be to let Gmail fetch my mail via pop3 - this doesn't work cause gmail doesn't accept mail from hosts with selfsigned ssl-certs)

 

 

I would like to attach a signature to all mail sent from our server.  It's a fresh install on Ubuntu server 13.04 using the version in the Ubuntu repository.

Okay. Thanks. I'll see if it still meets our needs (at this time).

I'm very impressed of the simplicity of configuration and administration of Citadel.
And it makes me quite sentimental remembering the good old BBS times... ;-)

NetHawk

 

Sat May 18 2013 11:16:14 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: groupdav issues

you should rather use synckolab for your pim sync.

 

Tks, I did see that mentioned for the dekstop ( didnt think it was the 'right' way and just another way of doing things ) and will look into that more this afternoon.

 

It looks like things will be a bit more challenging to get my portable devices working seamleslly as from what i was reading the funambol server is no longer supported. But that will be next to tackle :)

 

 

 

 

you should rather use synckolab for your pim sync.

Just installed citadel from wheezy ( debian ) pacakges and have things working locally ( and a pop-fetch to my ISP is setup and working )

 

Got thunderbird setup to read mail, but when i try to add my citadel calendar to the lighting plugin i can't authenticate. It keeps asking for user/password.  I also tried on an iphone just to eliminate mozilla. ( i haven't setup anything for contacts yet )

Not sure where the citadel logs are to see what is going on. Google search didn't help much either so i'm hoping this has been seen by someone.

Hi there,

I'm just in the process of evaluating Citadel for my needs of a "family collaboration server".

I was very glad to see, that it supports Chat by XMPP and I wonder if there are any plans to implement Conference Chats in the near future?
As far as I can see that's not possible by now, right?

Hope you can help me with that.

NetHawk

You can however tick the "correct forged FROM-lines" setting to disable this.

Aha, unticking that option has done the job. Excellent.

Thanks so much - think that's sorted out my email server once and for all.

I just need to be careful with usernames. I.e. register firstname.lastname so that the domains are unlikely to clash.

Thanks 'dothebart'

 

Wed May 15 2013 06:22:03 EDTfrom Chris Tate-Davies @ Uncensored Subject: Multiple domains

Hello there.

I tried to set up a postfix/dovecot mail server on a dedicated server in an attempt to go 'solo' but had massive problems... So I turned to Citadel to provide me an easier to install/configure mail server. So far its done the job and I am fairly pleased with it.

The last problem I have, is that my server hosts multiple domains.

The server is set up to collect mail from these domains, i.e. the MX records are correct and everything.

I need to be able to check all the domains, so I have email addresses:

• chris@domain1.com
• chris@domain2.com
• chris@domain3.com

It sort of works, and I can collect mail from all domains, HOWEVER, when I send mail it always sends from the main FQD (this is over IMAP and Mac Mail; it works if I send it from the Citadel web app as I get to choose the email address to send from at the top)

I guess its because when you log in with IMAP you send the username and password (in which case, Citadel will only receive 'chris') - perhaps I need to figure out how to set the FROM: header?

I understand that I can only have one account with the name chris, so all mail to any domain chris@xxx will go there, that's a little annoying, but I can live with it.

Is there ANY way of having multiple usernames? Its okay at the moment, but one day I might need a tom@domain1 and a tom@domain2 but different people...

 

Does that make ANY sense at all?

Thanks for any help or guidance you can give,

Chris

PS. One last thing, can I turn off the rooms things, so I just have a mail server without the domains interacting?

no. the rooms are the equivilents to folders. its the fundamental inner self of citadels data structure.

Hello there.

I tried to set up a postfix/dovecot mail server on a dedicated server in an attempt to go 'solo' but had massive problems... So I turned to Citadel to provide me an easier to install/configure mail server. So far its done the job and I am fairly pleased with it.

The last problem I have, is that my server hosts multiple domains.

The server is set up to collect mail from these domains, i.e. the MX records are correct and everything.

I need to be able to check all the domains, so I have email addresses:

• chris@domain1.com
• chris@domain2.com
• chris@domain3.com

It sort of works, and I can collect mail from all domains, HOWEVER, when I send mail it always sends from the main FQD (this is over IMAP and Mac Mail; it works if I send it from the Citadel web app as I get to choose the email address to send from at the top)

I guess its because when you log in with IMAP you send the username and password (in which case, Citadel will only receive 'chris') - perhaps I need to figure out how to set the FROM: header?

I understand that I can only have one account with the name chris, so all mail to any domain chris@xxx will go there, that's a little annoying, but I can live with it.

Is there ANY way of having multiple usernames? Its okay at the moment, but one day I might need a tom@domain1 and a tom@domain2 but different people...

 

Does that make ANY sense at all?

Thanks for any help or guidance you can give,

 

Chris

 

PS. One last thing, can I turn off the rooms things, so I just have a mail server without the domains interacting?

 

Wed May 15 2013 02:49:20 EDT from Jamespatageul @ Uncensored Subject: Missing webcit after install

Hi people,

I have just install Citadel using the Synaptic Package Manager.

I'm using Mint Debian 201303 MATE 64-bit.

So now I follow this guide ->

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net

but when I check netstat (netstat -lnp)

I see that I missing the webcit service.

So i guess I must install him also trough the synaptic Package Manager ?


Is there anything else I need to install ?

 thx people.

yes, you have to install citadel-webcit.

if you want to use the commandline client, you can install citadel-client.

depending on whether citadel should run in standalone without postfix integration, you should install citadel-mta which then in term will replace postfix.

Hi people,

I have just install Citadel using the Synaptic Package Manager.

I'm using Mint Debian 201303 MATE 64-bit.

So now I follow this guide ->

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net

but when I check netstat (netstat -lnp)

I see that I missing the webcit service.

So i guess I must install him also trough the synaptic Package Manager ?


Is there anything else I need to install ?

 thx people.

please have a look at these faqs:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started

if your problem persists, call in again.

Minor correction!

My code was called Citadel:K2NE and not Citadel:NetK2NE.

NetK2NE (the oldest continuously operational ISP in the United States, by the way) didn't start public internet operations until late in 1993 when it first became legal.

Prior to that it was known as "K2NE Software" and offered free public dialup BBS access starting in December 1983. </brag> ;)

The "K2NE" thing is my ham radio callsign, by the way.

--Vince

hi guys...

 

i just finished installing Citadel in a computer running linux debian...

 

now, I can't find where to start!!!

 

once I have installed, how to I access the interface? How do I access the web side to administer and start "doing stuff"?

 

thanks a lot for any comment... 

hi guys...

i just finished installing Citadel in a computer running linux debian...

now, I can't find where to start!!!

once I have installed, how to I access the interface? How do I access the web side to administer and start "doing stuff"?

thanks a lot for any comment... 

Hi

Cool and very professional program. Is there a webcam feature in the chat rooms.

 

Thank you

 

Tue May 07 2013 16:07:59 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

Hey!  Long time no log-in -- surprised my user account still exists.

I know that Citadel has RSS/Atom support, but I'm not able to find details on what is precisely supported.  Maybe I'm missing the obvious documentation sources?

I'm wondering if Citadel supports both RSS/Atom aggregation (e.g., a room is configured to be a feed reader, basically), as well as RSS/Atom syndication (activity within a specific room is syndicated through a feed)?  If yes to either, any pointers to documentation would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Simply configure RSS aggregation in the room properties.

Rooms provide RSS feeds without configuration options.

However if you want to have them accessible without authentication, you need to allow anonymous access.

 

Tue May 07 2013 16:11:55 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

Oh, one more thing -- is it possible to search through the messages in a Citadel installation?  E.g., on my webcit installation, there's a search box in the upper-righthand corner, but it doesn't do anything.  Citadel would get a popularity boost here at work if it supported some means of searching for a message.  I notice that the Uncensored web UI lacks the search box.

Thanks again for any help you can provide.

you have to enable the search index for that. Its built overnite, and consumes quiet a bunch of cpu for its maintenance, so its turned off by default.

Oh, one more thing -- is it possible to search through the messages in a Citadel installation?  E.g., on my webcit installation, there's a search box in the upper-righthand corner, but it doesn't do anything.  Citadel would get a popularity boost here at work if it supported some means of searching for a message.  I notice that the Uncensored web UI lacks the search box.

Thanks again for any help you can provide.

Hey!  Long time no log-in -- surprised my user account still exists.

I know that Citadel has RSS/Atom support, but I'm not able to find details on what is precisely supported.  Maybe I'm missing the obvious documentation sources?

I'm wondering if Citadel supports both RSS/Atom aggregation (e.g., a room is configured to be a feed reader, basically), as well as RSS/Atom syndication (activity within a specific room is syndicated through a feed)?  If yes to either, any pointers to documentation would be appreciated.  Thanks!

 

Hello everyone!

I am really new to all this open source and freeware stuff but I was able to set up my own Ubuntu Server 13.04 mailserver, register a domain and got all that MX records stuff done...

Anyways: I experience the problem that when I change the password for one user account all other passwords get screwed up so nobody else can login. This happens no matter if Ichange the password via the admin account or if the user itself changes it.

The very weird thing is that when the admin changes his password his password gets screwed up but everyone elses stays ok.

It's like that only passwords from accounts that are higher ranking than the account that changes his password are affected by this.

 

Has anybody a solution? I had to rebuild my server several times now and it always happened again and again.

 

Cheers,

Citaman

 

Sun Apr 28 2013 13:56:45 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Wed Apr 24 2013 04:10:40 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Tue Apr 23 2013 05:13:48 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Hm, both fail to mention which characterset they're in:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/calendar
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
User-Agent: SyncKolab 3.1.0

either one of utf8 / iso 8859-1

so maybe exactly this is the problem - in UTF8 umlauts become 2 characters, in ISO they remain one.

I guess both of them should specify the charset in first place to make it work transparent, however you should be able to configure synckolab to do utf8 - which is pretty much standard nowadays.

 

Thanks, maybe that's the point. I let you know, if it works, when the missing charset line is inside the entry.

But citadel should do this too, shouldn't it?

Dear developer of citadel, the line charset="utf-8" belongs in they Calendar files, don't they? Is it much work to do this?

hm, the write part is easy.

edit webcit/event.c these lines:

            case '8':
                serv_puts("Content-type: text/calendar; charset=UTF-8");
                serv_puts("Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable");

and recompile.

(yes, the content type has to contain the charset)

I don't know whether it will find an iso header & evaluate it in its current state; At least the QP-Decoding is done in citserver before webcit gets the message; I currently don't have the time to dig into this.

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 10:52:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

Lightning seems to work for me; you do have to do it at the granularity of the entire calendar (by mapping the .ics using webdav) but it does work.

 

Yes, it's fine for one person at a time to use -- but if you have multiple simultaneous users that can save appointments, hilarity ensues very quickly!

 

Fri Apr 26 2013 16:29:52 EDT from jwhistler66 @ Uncensored Subject: Configure Citadel to receive emails only

Hi all.  I would like to setup citadel to be able to process certain emails using procmail.  Our main email server is an Exchange Server, and I would like to forward certain messages based on header to the citadel server where I can process information out of the email and store it into a database.  I just want a generic email account on the citadel server that I can forward to.  I have everything setup, but the citadel server keeps rejecting the forwarded emails with:

550 You must log in to send mail from blah.com

Thanks in advance.

 

at first, you can't use procmail with citadel.

however citadel offers an integrated sieve engine.

in your (test) case the sender is local to citadel, right? Citadel won't let you send those unauthenticated.

If your general usecase is to filter & process external mails with froms from other domains, this should work.

Webcit even offers a way to have mails parsed up into a json structure to improve your comfort of automated processing - since basic mail parsing tends to be a rather complicated and error prone process.

 

Wed Apr 24 2013 04:10:40 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Tue Apr 23 2013 05:13:48 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Mon Apr 22 2013 15:20:01 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 17:52:40 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 10:52:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

Lightning seems to work for me; you do have to do it at the granularity of the entire calendar (by mapping the .ics using webdav) but it does work.

I contacted the developer of sync kolab, we work together for a solution of the encoding problem for the ical entries...

I've got still the problem with encoding. I attached 2 files, which I grabed from thunderbird (Sourcecode of the E-Mail in the respective IMAP-Folder) The first is a calendar entry, which I generated inside citadel with webcit. The second comes from sync kolab, generated in lightning, sync kolab writes this entry in the IMAP-Folder

The content of the subject field of the entries is "Hier sind 2 oes öö"

Both, the citadel entry is not corrected encodet in lightning via sync kolab and the the sync kolab entry from lightning is not right represented in the citadel calendar (webcit).

I wonder why in the citadel generated entry (subject)  the ö is not =F6 (quoted-printable), but =C3=B6?

 

It is not clear for me who of the three (citadel, lightning,sync kolab) has problems with the encoding.

Can anybody of you discover anything in the entries, what is not correct?

 

Hm, both fail to mention which characterset they're in:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/calendar
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
User-Agent: SyncKolab 3.1.0

either one of utf8 / iso 8859-1

so maybe exactly this is the problem - in UTF8 umlauts become 2 characters, in ISO they remain one.

I guess both of them should specify the charset in first place to make it work transparent, however you should be able to configure synckolab to do utf8 - which is pretty much standard nowadays.

 

Thanks, maybe that's the point. I let you know, if it works, when the missing charset line is inside the entry.

But citadel should do this too, shouldn't it?

Dear developer of citadel, the line charset="utf-8" belongs in they Calendar files, don't they? Is it much work to do this?

Hi all.  I would like to setup citadel to be able to process certain emails using procmail.  Our main email server is an Exchange Server, and I would like to forward certain messages based on header to the citadel server where I can process information out of the email and store it into a database.  I just want a generic email account on the citadel server that I can forward to.  I have everything setup, but the citadel server keeps rejecting the forwarded emails with:

550 You must log in to send mail from blah.com

Thanks in advance.

 

I have citadel installed on my RaspberryPi, I am also running another web service through apache. I want that service to have port 80, and I want citadel to have port 443. How is this possible?

 

Tue Apr 23 2013 05:13:48 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Mon Apr 22 2013 15:20:01 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 17:52:40 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 10:52:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

Lightning seems to work for me; you do have to do it at the granularity of the entire calendar (by mapping the .ics using webdav) but it does work.

I contacted the developer of sync kolab, we work together for a solution of the encoding problem for the ical entries...

I've got still the problem with encoding. I attached 2 files, which I grabed from thunderbird (Sourcecode of the E-Mail in the respective IMAP-Folder) The first is a calendar entry, which I generated inside citadel with webcit. The second comes from sync kolab, generated in lightning, sync kolab writes this entry in the IMAP-Folder

The content of the subject field of the entries is "Hier sind 2 oes öö"

Both, the citadel entry is not corrected encodet in lightning via sync kolab and the the sync kolab entry from lightning is not right represented in the citadel calendar (webcit).

I wonder why in the citadel generated entry (subject)  the ö is not =F6 (quoted-printable), but =C3=B6?

 

It is not clear for me who of the three (citadel, lightning,sync kolab) has problems with the encoding.

Can anybody of you discover anything in the entries, what is not correct?

 

Hm, both fail to mention which characterset they're in:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/calendar
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
User-Agent: SyncKolab 3.1.0

either one of utf8 / iso 8859-1

so maybe exactly this is the problem - in UTF8 umlauts become 2 characters, in ISO they remain one.

I guess both of them should specify the charset in first place to make it work transparent, however you should be able to configure synckolab to do utf8 - which is pretty much standard nowadays.

 

Thanks, maybe that's the point. I let you know, if it works, when the missing charset line is inside the entry.

But citadel should do this too, shouldn't it?

New citadel setup today .. added a bunch of users with generated passwords 24 characters long through webcit  (as they worked off the command line just fine)  Just had someone else less tty capable add the rest via the webcit interface..

 

they didn't work

 

traced the reason why to the form import having a maxlength of 20

 

<td>Password</td><td><input type="password" name="password" value="" maxlength="20"></td>

 

Mon Apr 22 2013 15:20:01 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 17:52:40 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 10:52:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

Lightning seems to work for me; you do have to do it at the granularity of the entire calendar (by mapping the .ics using webdav) but it does work.

I contacted the developer of sync kolab, we work together for a solution of the encoding problem for the ical entries...

I've got still the problem with encoding. I attached 2 files, which I grabed from thunderbird (Sourcecode of the E-Mail in the respective IMAP-Folder) The first is a calendar entry, which I generated inside citadel with webcit. The second comes from sync kolab, generated in lightning, sync kolab writes this entry in the IMAP-Folder

The content of the subject field of the entries is "Hier sind 2 oes öö"

Both, the citadel entry is not corrected encodet in lightning via sync kolab and the the sync kolab entry from lightning is not right represented in the citadel calendar (webcit).

I wonder why in the citadel generated entry (subject)  the ö is not =F6 (quoted-printable), but =C3=B6?

 

It is not clear for me who of the three (citadel, lightning,sync kolab) has problems with the encoding.

Can anybody of you discover anything in the entries, what is not correct?

 

Hm, both fail to mention which characterset they're in:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/calendar
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
User-Agent: SyncKolab 3.1.0

either one of utf8 / iso 8859-1

so maybe exactly this is the problem - in UTF8 umlauts become 2 characters, in ISO they remain one.

I guess both of them should specify the charset in first place to make it work transparent, however you should be able to configure synckolab to do utf8 - which is pretty much standard nowadays.

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 17:52:40 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 10:52:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

Lightning seems to work for me; you do have to do it at the granularity of the entire calendar (by mapping the .ics using webdav) but it does work.

I contacted the developer of sync kolab, we work together for a solution of the encoding problem for the ical entries...

I've got still the problem with encoding. I attached 2 files, which I grabed from thunderbird (Sourcecode of the E-Mail in the respective IMAP-Folder) The first is a calendar entry, which I generated inside citadel with webcit. The second comes from sync kolab, generated in lightning, sync kolab writes this entry in the IMAP-Folder

The content of the subject field of the entries is "Hier sind 2 oes öö"

Both, the citadel entry is not corrected encodet in lightning via sync kolab and the the sync kolab entry from lightning is not right represented in the citadel calendar (webcit).

I wonder why in the citadel generated entry (subject)  the ö is not =F6 (quoted-printable), but =C3=B6?

 

It is not clear for me who of the three (citadel, lightning,sync kolab) has problems with the encoding.

Can anybody of you discover anything in the entries, what is not correct?

 

I just can tell you I run it in wheezy for a while now.

usually upgrade troubles come from gtk/qt stuff in my experience, and server only environments upgrade flawless.

However, having a backup of citadel before upgrading can't hurt in any case.

Maybe it's to soon to ask, and even I'll wait for months after wheeze is released.
I was wondering is someone has tested an upgrade of a debian squeeze server (with citadel, clamav, spamassassin) to wheeze.

Any issues to be aware?

In fact, I try to avoid to be on the "not supported side" even by Squeeze or citadel; and always running the most stable/supported/secure scenario.

Regards

 

Fri Apr 19 2013 10:52:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel sync kolab + lightning

Lightning seems to work for me; you do have to do it at the granularity of the entire calendar (by mapping the .ics using webdav) but it does work.

I contacted the developer of sync kolab, we work together for a solution of the encoding problem for the ical entries...

After looking at various options and trying them I basically just gave up, nothing seems to work properly. I have my users access shared calendars via Thunderbird and Lightning in read-only mode, they have to use Citadel's web interface to add or change appointments. Although klutzy, for us it's not too bad as typically the people entering the appointments and the people using/reading them are separate groups. (It's a shame that lightning doesn't have native support for Citadel, as a fully-integrated combination of the two would be excellent.)

 

Thu Apr 18 2013 11:45:31 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel (SOgo Connector? + lightning)

 

Thu Apr 18 2013 03:38:02 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel (SOgo Connector? + lightning)

synckolab is the better tool for the job; its working via imap.

Thanks! I've tested it. Adressbook sync I've already tested some months ago, it doesn't work properly. Today i've tested calendar sync - big problems with encoding charset. I've lost my calendar data. Not good.

I think it's a problem of that terrible lightning calendar, which doesn't work after several years of developing. And maybe a problem of synckolab too, I don't know. This solutions are not usable...

If there is a possibility for creating a wiki or a howto for citadel clients I would help to work on it...

There are thre different formats in sync kolab

• ical/Kolab1   

- this format is not recommended by the developer of sync kolab

- choosing this format, I've got charset encoding problems and (therefore?) lost of data

- citadel understand this format and can show it in webcit

 

• Xml/kolab2
• Xml/kolab3

- citadel doesn't understand this format in it's webcit calendar, new created entries by lightning are not visible in webcit

- but: sync works if you create new entries with lightning - it works with  acces from different lightning installations,

- but: the old entries created by webcit can not edited, respictively it has no effect of the server entries

 

Thu Apr 18 2013 03:38:02 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar Frontend for citadel (SOgo Connector? + lightning)

synckolab is the better tool for the job; its working via imap.

Thanks! I've tested it. Adressbook sync I've already tested some months ago, it doesn't work properly. Today i've tested calendar sync - big problems with encoding charset. I've lost my calendar data. Not good.

I think it's a problem of that terrible lightning calendar, which doesn't work after several years of developing. And maybe a problem of synckolab too, I don't know. This solutions are not usable...

If there is a possibility for creating a wiki or a howto for citadel clients I would help to work on it...

Does Citadel support Exchange like distribution groups?

synckolab is the better tool for the job; its working via imap.

Does anybody know, that there is a possibility to get the SOgo Connector working with Citadel? I've read something like that in the instructions of the SOgo connector, but no detailed informations. Maybe there is a better possibility to integrate the calendar in lightning instead of ics files : https://myServer/groupdav/Calendar/ics.

This solution doesn't work well. Often I get the error: MODIFICATION failed in lightning, it's not usable. Besides I think it's not a good idea to synchronize every time the whole ics file. What will happen, when my ics file is large, because I would have used my calendar for 10 years, and maybe I' ve added additional calendar from my colleages and so on.....

 

Mon Apr 15 2013 15:02:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar problem is back!

Great troubleshooting! When I saw your previous message mentioning 10,000 items in the shared calendar room, that's what my next thought was -- and then it seems you found that yourself.

The good news is that the current version of WebCit no longer has an arbitrary limit of how many messages (or in this case, appointments) can be loaded into the view at one time.

As for not being able to save your password in the browser, this is a common complaint and is being worked on.

 

 

Thanks!  I had tried updating to the latest stable version (Citadel 8.16) and the problem seemed to persist with that but I could be mistaken, I was trying a lot of different things to fix this issue and might have lost track. I'll keep an eye on the next release and give it a try but for now not being able to save the login password is a deal-breaker for us. (Just mentioning the idea to users nearly resulted in panic attacks.) For now Citadel 7.84 is working OK for us.

I have installed Citadel on Mint 14.  This question must have been asked lots of time. I  can't  log  in as admin.  Some searches suggest that you should reun setup with a user you have already created. I just cant work out how to run setup

 

 

 

Well, I've found what looks to be a workaround at least for the moment. I saw that the problem was kicking in as the number of appointments in the system passed 10,000. So even though it didn't make much sense, on a hunch I moved a bunch of older appointments (about 800 of them from 2008) into a separate archive, and now it is possible to add additional items. (As far as I know there is nothing magical about that number of items in a room, but I'm just going by what I see here.)

Also I went back to version 7.84 due to passwords not being saved in the web browser with the latest version. Our users have gotten accustomed to their browsers filling in their login credentials and I know they are not going to want to do that manually each time.

 

 

Sat Apr 13 2013 11:24:58 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar problem is back!

 

 

thats the verbose logging of the citadel protocol. Its webcit loading the messages from the server; if you 've got a fully loaded calendar, it has to do so many times.

did you try copying those messages via imap?

 

 

OK, with 10,000+ items in the schedule that explains the log entries -- I've adjusted rate limiting to keep the log from filling up with those messages.

I did try creating a new global calendar and copying the appointments via imap -- same result in the new calendar, could not add new entries. This was using the database that was already exhibiting the problem. (I had a vain hope that perhaps the current database might yet be rescued.) I'm going to try again using an earlier database.

 

Sat Apr 13 2013 11:19:42 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Saving password with new webcit?

 

yes, that anoyed me too; these patches to the webcit document tree sem to fix it for me:

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commit;h=66b37caa8621e2e78c61b44acef3653fdfdc1192

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commit;h=cc73743db94ae8e051033d701bc4157172a55ecc

feel free to try them on your static/ directories and restart webcit to make them take effect.

 

Thanks, I gave it a quick try but the browser still doesn't offer to save the password. (In fact now IE8 in my WinXP virtual machine abends trying to log on!) However this is a secondary issue until there is some resolution to the company calendar problem...

 

Sat Apr 13 2013 07:57:50 EDTfrom cbraxton @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar problem is back!

What am I doing wrong here?

 

So I went ahead and tried creating a new calendar room, and copied all of the messages from the old to the new using Mozilla Thunderbird (actually Debian's "Icedove" version).

The problem still persists, I cannot create a new appointment in the new calendar. One thing that is striking in the system log file since updating to Citadel 8.16 is the volume of entries created when the attempt to create a new appointment fails, including exactly 10,000 lines of the form:

    Apr 13 07:37:19 server1 citserver[31765]: [35][user(8)] MSG4 646083

...where the number at the end increments with each subsequent line. With rsyslogd rate limiting switched off that's 670K of log entries generated during the attempt! (Log snipped attached.) I do not know what these messages mean but they do not appear if a successful entry is made in the private calendar.

thats the verbose logging of the citadel protocol. Its webcit loading the messages from the server; if you 've got a fully loaded calendar, it has to do so many times.

did you try copying those messages via imap?

 

Sat Apr 13 2013 06:24:14 EDT from cbraxton @ Uncensored Subject: Saving password with new webcit?

I just updated our Citadel installation from 7.84 to 8.16 while working on the calendar problem we're experiencing. One difference I see is that when logging in, the browser no longer asks to store the password. Is it possible to change this and revert to the old behavior?

yes, that anoyed me too; these patches to the webcit document tree sem to fix it for me:

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commit;h=66b37caa8621e2e78c61b44acef3653fdfdc1192

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commit;h=cc73743db94ae8e051033d701bc4157172a55ecc

feel free to try them on your static/ directories and restart webcit to make them take effect.

Hi all, I am currently looking at setting up a small email server for 5 people and Citadel looks like a great posibility, open standards, easy to set up and maintain, low hardware requirments etc. One thing that interests me is the instant messaging function and I would like to learn more about its security aspects. My intended setup would be using pidgin on the desktops with Citadel running on a VPS.

Is there a document that discribes the security features of Citadel and its components, I think I understand it uses SSL for connections but does the "allow plaintext auth over unencrypted streams" option in pidgin mean the login process for chat would be in plain text over the netwok? Also would file transfers through proxy.eu.jabber.org be encrypted?

I have looked through the FAQ and documentation but could not find the answers, apologies if I have overlooked something.

Thanks for what looks like a great application,

Kryten

OK, my restore of the XML file fails due to timeout issue, but sendcommand is not accepting the "-w" option, it just spits out a usage message:

      ./sendcommand -w60 "MIGR import" </mnt/disk/tmp/exported.xml

          sendcommand: usage: sendcommand [-h server_dir] [-w watchdog_timeout]

Same happens when I leave a space in the option:

        ./sendcommand -w 60 "MIGR import" </mnt/disk/tmp/exported.xml

            sendcommand: usage: sendcommand [-h server_dir] [-w watchdog_timeout]

What am I doing wrong here?

So I went ahead and tried creating a new calendar room, and copied all of the messages from the old to the new using Mozilla Thunderbird (actually Debian's "Icedove" version).

The problem still persists, I cannot create a new appointment in the new calendar. One thing that is striking in the system log file since updating to Citadel 8.16 is the volume of entries created when the attempt to create a new appointment fails, including exactly 10,000 lines of the form:

    Apr 13 07:37:19 server1 citserver[31765]: [35][user(8)] MSG4 646083

...where the number at the end increments with each subsequent line. With rsyslogd rate limiting switched off that's 670K of log entries generated during the attempt! (Log snipped attached.) I do not know what these messages mean but they do not appear if a successful entry is made in the private calendar.

I just updated our Citadel installation from 7.84 to 8.16 while working on the calendar problem we're experiencing. One difference I see is that when logging in, the browser no longer asks to store the password. Is it possible to change this and revert to the old behavior?

 

Sat Apr 13 2013 05:08:25 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar problem is back!

hm, maybe this is a variant of the problem about the euids not being terminated in some cases?

Try the following:

create a new calendar room, use an imap client to copy all entries from the old room to the new room, retry editing events in webcit.

OK, I can give that a try. Though right now I have a XML export/import going that's going to take a while, thought I'd try that to recreate the database that way.

hm, maybe this is a variant of the problem about the euids not being terminated in some cases?

Try the following:

create a new calendar room, use an imap client to copy all entries from the old room to the new room, retry editing events in webcit.

Another data point, users can save appointments to their personal calendars but not to the company-wide calendar.

 

Fri Apr 12 2013 21:37:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Calendar problem is back!

Only calendar items? Are they definitely able to save other types of items? There's nothing special about how calendar items are stored in the database, so if one type of item works they all should.

I wonder if some bad data is crashing either your citserver or webcit processes. Are you able to determine whether either one is restarting?

I figured that everything was probably stored the same way, but the only other Citadel feature used at this installation is email, and there has been no problem receiving and manipulating email messages.  Bizarre.

There is nothing in the system log indicating that citserver or webcit are restarting and process IDs do not change.

I've updated to the latest version (8.16) via Easy Install, and the problem remains. There is much more output to the system log when the failed attempt is made than with the earlier version, actually pretty lengthy so I've attached it.

I'm going to try the idea of running database repair on a copy of the data that predates this issue.

 

Fri Apr 12 2013 11:13:32 EDT from cbraxton @ Uncensored Subject: Calendar problem is back!

Just got a call, adding events to the calendar worked until a few minutes ago, now the same symptom has started, nobody can save appointments. Not sure where to take it from here to try to minimize lost data. Maybe run database_cleanup.sh against a backup before taking it live? Is there any kind of size limit on the cdb files? (Currently we have cdb.08 at 17GB size.)

hm, afaik its 4 TB, so shouldn't be that dramatic

maybe you should try to run the database cleanup script on the backed up files?

In general its advised to run at least the last version from a stable series. however, more recent version bring some more dependencies, but more powerfull outbound smtp facilities otoh.

 

Fri Apr 12 2013 11:13:32 EDT from cbraxton @ Uncensored Subject: Calendar problem is back!

Just got a call, adding events to the calendar worked until a few minutes ago, now the same symptom has started, nobody can save appointments. Not sure where to take it from here to try to minimize lost data. Maybe run database_cleanup.sh against a backup before taking it live? Is there any kind of size limit on the cdb files? (Currently we have cdb.08 at 17GB size.)

I should also have mentioned that this is Citadel 7.84. I realize it's a few years old, but since there were no issues until this time we have kept this version.

Just got a call, adding events to the calendar worked until a few minutes ago, now the same symptom has started, nobody can save appointments. Not sure where to take it from here to try to minimize lost data. Maybe run database_cleanup.sh against a backup before taking it live? Is there any kind of size limit on the cdb files? (Currently we have cdb.08 at 17GB size.)

 

Thu Apr 11 2013 03:06:58 PM EDT from cbraxton @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Cannot save new calendar items in Citadel

It's easy to get complacent, Citadel has worked so well for us for years that I have not had to think much about it, for the most part it "just works." Make sure you have good backups!

Agreed.  I notice that an LVM snapshots are mentioned as a good backup method in the documentation here:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:systemadmin:what_is_the_best_way_to_backup_my_citadel_installation#what.is.the.best.way.to.backup.my.citadel.installation

I have used LVM snapshot backups with great success in the past.  If you are not space limited (and disk IO limited), that might be a better option for you to take more frequent backups and have less data loss between bakups.  In the case of a disk IO limited system (i.e. virtual machine that assumes low disk IO - and ram usage), you might be better off with the more traditional copy script method that takes into account the index file first nature of the BSDDB.

On another note, I always wanted to poke around the Berkely DB via the Python BSDDB, but I notice that 2.7 is the end of the line, but see that someone still makes it work against a later Python 3 version as a module here:

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/bsddb3/5.3.0

I have no clue how to start, but it might be fun to write some code against the ctypes library as I have done that before against a more hostile (i.e. less packaged) library and achived success.  It is fun (as a hacker) to poke around in data sometimes.

 

the dump utilities crashing is no good news.

but getting back online as quick as possible is probably the backup way.

Interesting might however be to check more detailed in a copy (or VM) whats realy wrong with that database.

Is it just one user who fails to create appointments, or is it all of them?

 

Yes, it's back up now using the backup. I did save a copy of the problem database, maybe take a closer look if I have time, but getting back up and running ASAP was the priority. I had tried a few different users, all exhibited the same problem.

 

Thu Apr 11 2013 14:27:31 EDT from cbraxton @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Cannot save new calendar items in Citadel

I found the database_cleanup.sh script, am currently running it. I also tried running db4.8_recover as suggested, but that utility segfaults immediately. So it's chewing away, we'll see what happens. (I did modify the script to use a temporary directory on another drive to improve performance, but it's still a lengthy process.)

From what I'm reading, if the cleanup procedure fails the only real option is to restore a backup that pre-dates the problem.  (That would be Tuesday evening's backup as the problem started yesterday.) A bit messy mainly due to email. If it's necessary to go that route I'll need to bring up the problem database temporarily for people to save emails that would otherwise be lost.

hm,

the dump utilities crashing is no good news.

but getting back online as quick as possible is probably the backup way.

Interesting might however be to check more detailed in a copy (or VM) whats realy wrong with that database.

Is it just one user who fails to create appointments, or is it all of them?

 

The cleanup script unfortunately did not clear up the problem, so it's back to Tuesday night's backup. Since we're using Thunderbird for email it was pretty simple to just copy the affected email messages to "Local Folders" so they're not lost.

It's easy to get complacent, Citadel has worked so well for us for years that I have not had to think much about it, for the most part it "just works." Make sure you have good backups!

 

 

Thu Apr 11 2013 08:52:32 EDT from fpl @ Uncensored Subject: how to configure auto forwarding of several user emails

Hello,

As an admin I want to configure auto forwarding (mark cc)  of emails of specific users to another email ids. but end users should not be able to change this settings which admin had configured.

hence kindly guide how to do these settings.

 

Nishant

its only possible for all users and all messages that are exchanged on your system:

Administration -> Edit site-wide configuration -> Indexing/Journaling

fill these two things:

   
Perform journaling of non-email messages   
Email destination of journalized messages

 

Thu Apr 11 2013 05:10:49 EDT from pavelzaloudek @ Uncensored Subject: relaying denied

 "You must log in to send mail from mail" after reconfiguration "relaying denied". Can you please advise where it can be wrong?

follow what this message says. log in before trying to send emails to remote parties.

I found the database_cleanup.sh script, am currently running it. I also tried running db4.8_recover as suggested, but that utility segfaults immediately. So it's chewing away, we'll see what happens. (I did modify the script to use a temporary directory on another drive to improve performance, but it's still a lengthy process.)

From what I'm reading, if the cleanup procedure fails the only real option is to restore a backup that pre-dates the problem.  (That would be Tuesday evening's backup as the problem started yesterday.) A bit messy mainly due to email. If it's necessary to go that route I'll need to bring up the problem database temporarily for people to save emails that would otherwise be lost.

We're having a problem with Citadel where new appointments cannot be saved in the calendar via Webcit. I verified this using two different workstations, and tried it with Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer, and a few different user accounts.  There are no error messages reported to the user, the appointment simply is not there. The following appears in /var/log/syslog:

Apr 11 12:07:42 server1 citadel: CtdlLoginExistingUser((null), donna)
Apr 11 12:08:16 server1 citadel: 1 unique messages to be merged

There is plenty of free space on Citadel's partition, and email continues to work with no problem. Rebooting the server did not help.

This started happening yesterday, restoring a backup from the day before that "fixes" the problem, but of course that loses the appointments and email messages made after that backup.

This Citadel installation has been running for years without issues. Is there a way to fix the current database rather than work with the one from two days ago?

 

Hello,

As an admin I want to configure auto forwarding (mark cc)  of emails of specific users to another email ids. but end users should not be able to change this settings which admin had configured.

hence kindly guide how to do these settings.

 

Nishant

Have a good day,

my name is Pavel Zaloudek, Microsoft specialist, nothing less and manage Linux servers. About a month ago I came across your product Citadel, and in agreement with the customer, I decided to try this product. I've installed Lubuntu, uninstall AppArmor, cleaned iptables, set the hostname, host allow, resolv.conf and installing your product from a repository. I set everything according to your instructions, but I have a problem. Citadel receives e-mails, communicates within the domain, but when you send e-mail outside the domain of me says "You must log in to send mail from mail" after reconfiguration "relaying denied". Can you please advise where it can be wrong?

 

I thank you Regards

Pavel Zaloudek

pavel.zaloudek @ live.com

How is Citadel supposed to behave when Email is sent to external recipients but the recipient address and/or domain is invalid?

I see these type of messages accumulating in the outbound SMTP queue. Sometims the sender recieves a bounce message a month or more after the message was originally sent. Sometimes the message just sits in the outbound queue apparently in some sort of endless retry loop. Also, recently I have been seeing messages with the next retry date set to Dec 31, 1969.

Shouldn't the message eventually be automatically purged from the queue and an NDR generated?

Thank you in advance,

Ryan

The fact that my emails are working, that is good so far.

 

Mon Apr 08 2013 22:46:45 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Realtime Blackhole List

 

Mon Apr 08 2013 03:42:55 PM EDT from abby @ Uncensored Subject: Realtime Blackhole List

What Realtime Blackhole List are recomended for this program.

I had install to many and it blocked my incoming mail.

Thanks

Abby

Abby,

I use zen.spamhaus.org

It might be too restrictive for you, but I have had good results.  You can read up on it here:

http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/

 

 

Mon Apr 08 2013 03:42:55 PM EDT from abby @ Uncensored Subject: Realtime Blackhole List

What Realtime Blackhole List are recomended for this program.

I had install to many and it blocked my incoming mail.

Thanks

Abby

Abby,

I use zen.spamhaus.org

It might be too restrictive for you, but I have had good results.  You can read up on it here:

http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/

What Realtime Blackhole List are recomended for this program.

I had install to many and it blocked my incoming mail.

Thanks

Abby

 

Sun Apr 07 2013 12:59:42 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

a question to the centos/redhat users; does locale & webcit work for you? if not, what did you change to make it work?

I'm running Citadel/Webcit on a CentOS 6 system...I don't think I changed anything.

 

Sun Apr 07 2013 11:48:06 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: How does Citadel work with non citadel invitees to a calendar event?

 

Sat Apr 06 2013 17:14:47 EDT from jp10558 @ Uncensored Subject: How does Citadel work with non citadel invitees to a calendar event?

It's not clear to me if they get an e-mail notification or anything... Also, can Citadel send an exchange / outlook compatable e-mail so Outlook can import it into it's calendar like some of the online scheduling tools do?

thats exactly the way it wokrs. its similar for all other email clients; they send out invitations via mail, and accepts are replied as email.

Hmmm, so if I am on Citadel and create an event, and dump in an external e-mail address, say one on Yahoo or Office 365... In my tests they don't actually get an e-mail from the calendar event. I can however send them a straight e-mail from the web interface and from an IMAP client...

i tried something and i kind of worked. i filled mydomain.de into "node name" and "fully qualified domain name" in the "general site configureation items".

now i can send emails to my other mail accounts but:

1) its damn slow! (is that because i'm using an RPi?)

2) if i answer those mails (lets say from my gmail-account) they dont end up in my admin@mydomain.de account. they just get lost somewhere on the way..

hi,

this is my first mail server i've ever tried. i have a static ip and a domain. if i go to that domain in my browser i see the citadel login page. so far so good.

i dont have any subdomains registered.

since i dont really have a clue i wanted ask here if anybody can help me. what do i have to type into all the fields in the "administration -> Domain names..."-panel in citadel?

assuming my domain is mydomain.de

i filled "mydomain.de" into "Local Host aliases". was that good?

in the administration panel of united-domains.de i entered mydomain.de into both mx records.

sending mails to admin@mydomain.de doesnt work

another strange thing: when i write an email in citadel next to FROM it says "admin@raspberrypi". whats wrong with that and how do i change that to "admin@mydomain.de" ?

i just dont get all this :-/

thanks

a question to the centos/redhat users; does locale & webcit work for you? if not, what did you change to make it work?

Hello dothebart

No, Citadel did not point me to that file.

I found a comment online other than citadel. They mentioned nslookup as below. Of course it failed, but it pointed to the file name.

Abby

 

Sun Apr 07 2013 11:49:14 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: emails will not send

Sat Apr 06 2013 17:11:14 EDT from abby @ Uncensored Subject: Re: emails will not send

I found my error!

The file below had the wrong IP.

root@citadel:~# nslookup
nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed
root@citadel:~# nano /etc/resolv.conf

fancy.

how did you uncover this? did citserver write logfiles pointing you there?

 

Sat Apr 06 2013 17:11:14 EDT from abby @ Uncensored Subject: Re: emails will not send

I found my error!

The file below had the wrong IP.

root@citadel:~# nslookup
nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed
root@citadel:~# nano /etc/resolv.conf

fancy.

how did you uncover this? did citserver write logfiles pointing you there?

 

Sat Apr 06 2013 17:14:47 EDT from jp10558 @ Uncensored Subject: How does Citadel work with non citadel invitees to a calendar event?

It's not clear to me if they get an e-mail notification or anything... Also, can Citadel send an exchange / outlook compatable e-mail so Outlook can import it into it's calendar like some of the online scheduling tools do?

thats exactly the way it wokrs. its similar for all other email clients; they send out invitations via mail, and accepts are replied as email.

 

Sat Apr 06 2013 17:16:05 EDT from jp10558 @ Uncensored Subject: How do I check and change the default user purge settings for Citadel?

I'm setting up primarily an e-mail / groupware server, and I pretty much don't want any accounts I create to be autodeleted...

this is disabled by default - as any auto deletion is.

I have this room set up as mailbox view but it always comes up with the
messages sorted oldest first, even though I keep changing it to newest first
by clicking on the date column header.
Citadel 8.16 with WebCit 8.16, Firefox 20

I'm setting up primarily an e-mail / groupware server, and I pretty much don't want any accounts I create to be autodeleted...

It's not clear to me if they get an e-mail notification or anything... Also, can Citadel send an exchange / outlook compatable e-mail so Outlook can import it into it's calendar like some of the online scheduling tools do?

I found my error!

The file below had the wrong IP.

 

root@citadel:~# nslookup
nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed
root@citadel:~# nano /etc/resolv.conf

I have made sure that all the ports are open that I know of.

I can recieve email, but nothing is sending out.

I am sure I must me missing a option to turn on or something.

Any ideas would be appricated!

Abby

 

can you try compiling with webcit, and send a backtrace of the blocking webcit?

for details, see:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:gdb#debugging

Hello.

I have citadel and webcit running on a Raspberry Pi. It runs really great, but I encountered the following problem:

When I try to add an attachment to an email message in webcit, the attachment loads indefinitely and the CPU load jumps to 90+ %.

I had to add RoundCube to the server to be able to use email. RoundCube ran 20x slower then webcit, so I decided to tune it for performance (xcache, cache messages in mysql, switch to FastCGI for PHP). When I switched to FastCGI, RoundCube had the same problem as Webcit - attachment larger than approx. 200kb never finished loading. I switched back to mod_php, without a significant decrease in prerformance, the attachments work now.

I would like to switch back to webcit however. Can anyone give me a clue how to troubleshoot the webcit attachment handling problem?

 

Thanks

 

max95

When I understand it correctly you've installed citadel on a virtual Machine, the host is windows xp.

Can you start citadel webcit inside the virtual machine ?

I think, You have to assure that you can reach the network of the virtual machine from your host xp. Try ping.

 

Thu Apr 04 2013 08:13:22 EDT from aan @ Uncensored Subject: Re: webcit

Edit,the problem loading page showing this, below :

Unable to connect
     
     
     
     
     
       
       
          Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 192.168.100.10:2000.
       

       
       

  The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
    moments.
  If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
    connection.
  If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
    that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

Thu Apr 04 2013 07:48:06 EDT from aan @ Uncensored Subject: webcit

...

1. When i try to open the webcit from my win xp kvm (still on proxmox), it says 'Problem Loading Page' on my firefox browser. What should i do?

...

 

 

Wed Apr 03 2013 17:00:11 EDT from supermichi210 @ Uncensored Subject: POP3 fetch service does not work correctly

I am using Citadel 8.16. Most of the functionality is running well.

For one user I have configured two POP3 servers from which mails should be collected. From one server mails are collected, but not deleted in the POP3 account. On the other server mails are neither collected nor deleted.

Collection interval is set to 0 on the user account. On the server there is defined a global POP3 interval of 600 sec. - also max. interval is set to 600sec.

What could be the problem? - Thank you in advance for support.

you could activate the pop3 log as described a few posts ago (problems fetching pop3 mails), and post the relevant output here.

Edit,the problem loading page showing this, below :

Unable to connect
     
     
     
     
     
       
       
          Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 192.168.100.10:2000.
       

       
       

  The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
    moments.
  If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
    connection.
  If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
    that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

Thu Apr 04 2013 07:48:06 EDT from aan @ Uncensored Subject: webcit

...

1. When i try to open the webcit from my win xp kvm (still on proxmox), it says 'Problem Loading Page' on my firefox browser. What should i do?

...

Hello,

Im new to citadel as well as linux.

But ive try and finally can install citadel-suite on my ubuntu 10 container on proxmox (bad language sorry).

 

I have several question.

1. When i try to open the webcit from my win xp kvm (still on proxmox), it says 'Problem Loading Page' on my firefox browser. What should i do?

2. Can i put the webcit on win xp, then connected to the citadel mail server in linux? Please tell me.

 

 Thanks for your support. SOorry for my bad language.

hum... I don't even see a command intended to create the folder :-(

Can you try to disable TLS and sniff with a temporary password?

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

Apr  3 13:26:19 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:26:19 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.004407] GET /sslg?8992174337618053

Apr  3 13:26:23 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:26:23 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.004113] GET /sslg?52835207246244

Apr  3 13:26:41 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue

Apr  3 13:26:41 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 0 messages processed 0 activated

Apr  3 13:26:41 myServer citserver[16593]: No external notifiers configured on system/user

Apr  3 13:26:49 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:26:49 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.003940] GET /sslg?875563841313124

Apr  3 13:26:53 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:26:53 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.003775] GET /sslg?6971308588981628

Apr  3 13:27:19 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:27:19 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.004410] GET /sslg?187817519530654

Apr  3 13:27:23 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:27:23 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.005115] GET /sslg?3843311881646514

Apr  3 13:27:39 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1323]<0000000010.Mail> 0 new of 1 total messages

Apr  3 13:27:42 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue

Apr  3 13:27:42 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 0 messages processed 0 activated

Apr  3 13:27:42 myServer citserver[16593]: No external notifiers configured on system/user

Apr  3 13:27:49 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:27:49 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.001378] GET /sslg?898177369497716

Apr  3 13:27:53 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:27:53 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.004572] GET /sslg?729710570070893

Apr  3 13:28:19 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:28:19 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.004556] GET /sslg?148641084320843

Apr  3 13:28:23 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:28:23 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.009361] GET /sslg?2813471546396613

Apr  3 13:28:43 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue

Apr  3 13:28:43 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 0 messages processed 0 activated

Apr  3 13:28:43 myServer citserver[16593]: No external notifiers configured on system/user

Apr  3 13:28:49 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:28:49 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.003483] GET /sslg?05781363695859909

Apr  3 13:28:53 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:28:53 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.000534] GET /sslg?042587081901729

Apr  3 13:28:57 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:28:57 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.004549] GET /do_template?template=aide_display_menu

Apr  3 13:28:57 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.018944] GET /do_template?template=iconbar_user

Apr  3 13:28:59 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.008668] GET /json_roomflr?SortBy=byfloorroom?SortOrder=1

Apr  3 13:29:01 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] LOGP

Apr  3 13:29:01 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.004122] GET /do_template?template=aide_display_logstatus

Apr  3 13:29:01 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.013816] GET /do_template?template=iconbar_user

Apr  3 13:29:01 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.003220] GET /json_roomflr?SortBy=byfloorroom?SortOrder=1

Apr  3 13:29:19 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:29:19 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.003849] GET /sslg?716919200960547

Apr  3 13:29:44 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue

Apr  3 13:29:44 myServer citserver[16593]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 0 messages processed 0 activated

Apr  3 13:29:44 myServer citserver[16593]: No external notifiers configured on system/user

Apr  3 13:29:47 myServer citserver[16593]: Ending SSL/TLS

Apr  3 13:29:47 myServer citserver[16593]: Context: [1376]SRV[IMAP] Session ended.

Apr  3 13:29:48 myServer citserver[16593]: Session (IMAP) started from 192.168.24.194 (192.168.24.194).

Apr  3 13:29:48 myServer citserver[16593]: SSL/TLS using AES128-SHA on TLSv1/SSLv3 (128 of 128 bits)

Apr  3 13:29:49 myServer citserver[16593]: [1285][AideLvlCitUsr(10)] NOOP

Apr  3 13:29:49 myServer webcit[21763]: HTTP: 200 [0.007602] GET /sslg?7333169477060437

Apr  3 13:29:49 myServer citserver[16593]: IMAPCC[1378] <plain_auth>

Apr  3 13:29:49 myServer citserver[16593]: Context: <AideLvlCitUsr> logged in

Apr  3 13:29:49 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1378]<Lobby> 0 new of 0 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:50 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1378]<0000000010.Mail> 0 new of 1 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:51 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1378]<0000000010.Junk E-mail> 0 new of 0 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:51 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1378]<0000000010.Junk E-mail> 0 new of 0 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:51 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1378]<0000000010.Junk E-mail> 0 new of 0 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:51 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1378]<0000000010.Junk E-mail> 0 new of 0 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:52 myServer citserver[16593]: Ending SSL/TLS

Apr  3 13:29:52 myServer citserver[16593]: Context: [1378]SRV[IMAP] Session ended.

Apr  3 13:29:52 myServer citserver[16593]: Session (IMAP) started from 192.168.24.194 (192.168.24.194).

Apr  3 13:29:53 myServer citserver[16593]: SSL/TLS using AES128-SHA on TLSv1/SSLv3 (128 of 128 bits)

Apr  3 13:29:54 myServer citserver[16593]: IMAPCC[1379] <plain_auth>

Apr  3 13:29:54 myServer citserver[16593]: Context: <AideLvlCitUsr> logged in

Apr  3 13:29:54 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1379]<Lobby> 0 new of 0 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:55 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1379]<0000000010.Mail> 0 new of 1 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:55 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1379]<0000000010.News Feed> 0 new of 1 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:56 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1379]<0000000010.News Feed> 0 new of 1 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:56 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1379]<0000000010.News Feed> 0 new of 1 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:56 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1379]<0000000010.News Feed> 0 new of 1 total messages

Apr  3 13:29:57 myServer citserver[16593]: Ending SSL/TLS

Apr  3 13:29:57 myServer citserver[16593]: Context: [1379]SRV[IMAP] Session ended.

Apr  3 13:29:58 myServer citserver[16593]: Session (IMAP) started from 192.168.24.194 (192.168.24.194).

Apr  3 13:29:58 myServer citserver[16593]: SSL/TLS using AES128-SHA on TLSv1/SSLv3 (128 of 128 bits)

Apr  3 13:29:59 myServer citserver[16593]: IMAPCC[1380] <plain_auth>

Apr  3 13:29:59 myServer citserver[16593]: Context: <AideLvlCitUsr> logged in

Apr  3 13:29:59 myServer citserver[16593]: CC[1380]<Lobby> 0 new of 0 total messages

I am using Citadel 8.16. Most of the functionality is running well.

For one user I have configured two POP3 servers from which mails should be collected. From one server mails are collected, but not deleted in the POP3 account. On the other server mails are neither collected nor deleted.

Collection interval is set to 0 on the user account. On the server there is defined a global POP3 interval of 600 sec. - also max. interval is set to 600sec.

What could be the problem? - Thank you in advance for support.

can you enable imap logging when creating a new folder via outlook?

Administration->Enable/Disable logging of the server components->imapsrv

you then should get the imap commands in /var/log/messages

Hello,

 

My company is looking into using Citadel for email and collaboation. On the server side, we have Citadel 8.16 with WebCit 8.16 on Fedora 14 and on the client side - Win 7&8, Outlook 2010 (ver. 14.0.6129.5000 64-bit with SP1) (2013 coming soon?) and Bynari Outlook Connector (v. 4.1.19-16010 64-bit iCal enabled, Kolab not installed). We need to be able to manage shared calendars and contacts... even emails maybe?, through Outlook. We need to be able to do things like:

-- share my calendar with specific colleagues and vendors so that when I create/update an event in Outlook, they would see it in their email client... and the other way around.

-- delegate my calendar to my secretary so she can manage it from her Outlook.

 

The server seems to be installed normally as I can access WebCit and create and manage users and rooms, send/receive emails.

 

On the test client machine, I have connected an Aide user via IMAP using the Bynari Connector as recommended on the Citadel website. The basic functionality seems OK - I can create and sync events in the calendar. I can also send/receive emails. However, I run into several issues that would be show stoppers if they remain unresolved:

-- When I try to create an email subfolder in Outlook, I get an error (Cannot create the folder. A resource is busy, or you lack sufficient permissions.). At the same time, if create a new room under Mail in WebCit, it does not appear in Outlook after syncing.

-- If I share one user's calendar in WebCit with another, I can se it under Rooms / My Folders as 00000000xx.Calendar in WebCit but it does not appear in Outlook for the invited user.

-- When I sync the contacts, I get multiple additional ones in Outlook that say "This message contains data necessary to sync this folder with Outlook. Please, do not delete..."

-- moving info from OUtlook to the Citadel is very fast, communication in hte other direction takes quie a while

 

I have not tried sharing contacts or email rooms but I would assume the issues from Shared Calendars would be there as well.

 

I have searched extensively through the online documentation on citadel.org, I have also gone through quite a bit of the forums but I could not any answers on how to achieve our objectives.

 

Any advise and recommended resources would be greatly appreciated!

 

in general iptables is not the topic of citadel; however, reading this faq might give you some insight what you need to do:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:general_configuring

Its been hard to get and keep access to the web site.

What security does Citadel Server use? I have tried to use iptables, but they only block the services!

Any suggested iptables setting I could use?

Abby

Thx, some how we chenge Default message expire policy for public rooms/Expire by message age to 0 days and now there is no emails in users accounts. This is huge problem for us. It's any solution to recovery messages?

 

Fri Mar 29 2013 06:33:33 EDT from Marcin Trojanowski @ Uncensored Subject: Auto-purge

Hi,

last night our server, did auto-purge for all messages older that one day. It'is any option to recovery it? Database is still big, so e-mails are there. Pls. help. Thx.

Best Regards.

no, the autopurger run removes the references of messages, so no structured information remains.

while the data may still not be overwritten, there is no automatic way to get it back (maybe a backup?)

You may find the remaints of your messages in the db files using a hex editor, so keeping a copy of the current db state may be valuable.

however the autopurger only removes private messages after the users have been deleted; details see

http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:developers:deferred_processing

Hi,

 

last night our server, did auto-purge for all messages older that one day. It'is any option to recovery it? Database is still big, so e-mails are there. Pls. help. Thx.

 

Best Regards.

 

Thu Mar 28 2013 12:45:42 EDT from chris swain @ Uncensored Subject: Re: unbuntu and default layout

so what is the best os to use to get this nice layout or is there a quick way of upgrading

this is not just a new layout.

its a whole new version, whith new features and maybe bugfixes.

have a look at

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:debian

so what is the best os to use to get this nice layout or is there a quick way of upgrading

ubuntu is a bit slow to catch up with the latest version of citadel.

Nowadays we have 8.16; ubuntu.citadel.org should have more recent packages for you in doubt.

I have just installed citadel on a clean unbuntu 10.04 vps and i have this hideous theme and when installed the software was pointing me to x.x.x.x:2000 for administration

i cant access the x.x.x.x:2000 and how do i install the theme that is in use here in the forum or does the apg-get citadel install an old version ?

Thank you for the excellent support, everything is fine now, fetching of pop3 Mails works!!.

 

Tue Mar 26 2013 15:05:39 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

ups,

I forgot one step.

its

git checkout stable-81x

so you compile the patched stable version - not git master with some unreleased patches.

 

Tue Mar 26 2013 14:52:49 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

 

Fri Mar 22 2013 13:50:02 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

ok, a workaround added.

could you please try to compile GIT and check whether this workaround does the right thing (TM)

howto get:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:sourcecode

howto compile:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:compile_debs

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall:homebrew

It works!!!! Great! These are little steps to make the best groupware, even if others made the bugs ;-)

 

I'got some notes for the compilation process.

after getting the source-code with

git clone git://git.citadel.org/appl/gitroot/citadel.git

I changed in the directories libcitadel respectively citadel and webcit.

To call

./bootstrap

and

dpkg-buildpackage

 

./buildpackages deb #didn't work! should it?

Errormessage was: Not yet implemented. we have: debian, sourcedist

 

The compiled version from git is citadel 8.13-1, the libs are 8.19.99... should you change the notation of the version?

 

 

but I had problems to build webcit:

CC ical_maps.c
ical_maps.c:28: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ical_unknown_token_handling’
ical_maps.c:440: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘C’
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘endif’
ical_maps.c:451

------------------------------------

 

you need libical for that bootstrap... maybe I should add a check for it...

 

 

ups,

I forgot one step.

its

git checkout stable-81x

so you compile the patched stable version - not git master with some unreleased patches.

 

Tue Mar 26 2013 14:52:49 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

 

Fri Mar 22 2013 13:50:02 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

ok, a workaround added.

could you please try to compile GIT and check whether this workaround does the right thing (TM)

howto get:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:sourcecode

howto compile:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:compile_debs

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall:homebrew

It works!!!! Great! These are little steps to make the best groupware, even if others made the bugs ;-)

 

I'got some notes for the compilation process.

after getting the source-code with

git clone git://git.citadel.org/appl/gitroot/citadel.git

I changed in the directories libcitadel respectively citadel and webcit.

To call

./bootstrap

and

dpkg-buildpackage

 

./buildpackages deb #didn't work! should it?

Errormessage was: Not yet implemented. we have: debian, sourcedist

 

The compiled version from git is citadel 8.13-1, the libs are 8.19.99... should you change the notation of the version?

 

 

but I had problems to build webcit:

CC ical_maps.c
ical_maps.c:28: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ical_unknown_token_handling’
ical_maps.c:440: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘C’
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘endif’
ical_maps.c:451

------------------------------------

 

you need libical for that bootstrap... maybe I should add a check for it...

 

 

Fri Mar 22 2013 13:50:02 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

ok, a workaround added.

could you please try to compile GIT and check whether this workaround does the right thing (TM)

howto get:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:sourcecode

howto compile:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:compile_debs

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall:homebrew

It works!!!! Great! These are little steps to make the best groupware, even if others made the bugs ;-)

 

I'got some notes for the compilation process.

after getting the source-code with

git clone git://git.citadel.org/appl/gitroot/citadel.git

I changed in the directories libcitadel respectively citadel and webcit.

To call

./bootstrap

and

dpkg-buildpackage

 

./buildpackages deb #didn't work! should it?

Errormessage was: Not yet implemented. we have: debian, sourcedist

 

The compiled version from git is citadel 8.13-1, the libs are 8.19.99... should you change the notation of the version?

 

 

but I had problems to build webcit:

CC ical_maps.c
ical_maps.c:28: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ical_unknown_token_handling’
ical_maps.c:440: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘C’
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:440: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: stray ‘#’ in program
ical_maps.c:451: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘endif’
ical_maps.c:451

------------------------------------

 

Hi

This Server, running Citadel 8.14 with WebCit 8.14, server build 8.14

on a Dreamplug PC (ARM)Debian Wheezy (apt-get install citadel-suite), only local email setup for now, but Citadel fully functional, running very smoothly.

Can create rooms, edit their name and info file, name, settings, etc Great stuff really !

Cant seem to find a way to edit content of messages after being posted on a room's board?

Pointers much appreciated !

 

Thank you !

chown -R citadel usr/local/citadel

did the trick.

New to Citadel, amazed by content and functionality of Citadel and Loving it ;)

 

 

Mon Mar 25 2013 01:25:43 PM EDT from ovps @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citadel-vmware-appliance-2012 on U12.04 cannot change login/out images

tks for reply

all files and folders have "staff" as their group

citadel user was left to the default "citadel" during setup

should I do "chown -R citadel /usr/local/citadel>"

I would, yes.

tks for reply

all files and folders have "staff" as their group

citadel user was left to the default "citadel" during setup

should I do "chown -R citadel /usr/local/citadel>"

 

Mon Mar 25 2013 11:22:47 AM EDT from ovps @ Uncensored Subject: Citadel-vmware-appliance-2012 on U12.04 cannot change login/out images

Hi

Citadel up and running on VirtualBox (4.1.12) from http://easyinstall.citadel.org/citadel-vmware-appliance-2012.zip

Can login as admin (localIP:2000), create a user, create rooms and content, but get short error message permission denied to /usr/local/citadel//some_image.file

after selecting a local file and hitting the upload button to change the login and logout images.

 

Any help or pointers much appreciated !

Check the ownerships and permissions on the subdirectories in /usr/local/citadel. If necessary, run "chown -R <bbsusername> /usr/local/citadel>"

Hi

Citadel up and running on VirtualBox (4.1.12) from http://easyinstall.citadel.org/citadel-vmware-appliance-2012.zip

Can login as admin (localIP:2000), create a user, create rooms and content, but get short error message permission denied to /usr/local/citadel//some_image.file

after selecting a local file and hitting the upload button to change the login and logout images.

 

Any help or pointers much appreciated !

 

OS Ubuntu

Release 12.04 (precise) 64-bit

Kernel Linux 3.2.0-38-generic

GNOME 3.4.2

AMD A6-3650 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 4

 

Mon Mar 25 2013 06:01:22 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

Thanks a lot for the quick fix! I'll try it this week

For complement:

I isolated a successful pop3 session: (it happens about one time a day)

Note: this empty lines after 543 and 804 are still there. But in this case citadel detects the new messages on the provider's server.

hm, fancy. for some reason it doesn't have the uid fetch 0 there... lets see whether the patch fixes it anyways.

Thanks a lot for the quick fix! I'll try it this week

For complement:

I isolated a successful pop3 session: (it happens about one time a day)

Note: this empty lines after 543 and 804 are still there. But in this case citadel detects the new messages on the provider's server.

 

 

Tue Mar 19 2013 08:28:42 AM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II Subject: Re: question regarding ctdlmigrate

 

Tue Mar 19 2013 07:57:19 AM EDT from dprylows @ Uncensored Subject: question regarding ctdlmigrate

When I run the ctdlmigrate utility on the 12.3 machine, it connects to the main box ok and then it seems to start copying files and then exits stating that it completed successfully. The whole process takes less then 10 seconds. After I restart citadel on the 12.3 machine and check the configuration, nothing has changed from the default config. It seems that none of the mail, configuration, anything at all, is actually copied. Am I missing something?

As which user are you connecting to the "main machine"?

While it's generally not recommended as a security practice, I recommend enabling SSH remote login for root on the "main" system, long enough to perform the process, and then button it back up when you're done.

I used root on both machines

maybe editing the webcit welcome template and adding <pre> around it would also do the job?

Tue Mar 19 2013 16:17:50 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

Is there any way to get WEBCIT to use a different 'hello' file than the one it currently shares with the command line Citadel?

Reason: I want to use ASCII art in the 'hello' file for the SSH users, and that just looks like hell on the WebCit side.

 

ok, a workaround added.

could you please try to compile GIT and check whether this workaround does the right thing (TM)

howto get:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:sourcecode

howto compile:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:compile_debs

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall:homebrew

 

Tue Mar 19 2013 07:57:19 AM EDT from dprylows @ Uncensored Subject: question regarding ctdlmigrate

When I run the ctdlmigrate utility on the 12.3 machine, it connects to the main box ok and then it seems to start copying files and then exits stating that it completed successfully. The whole process takes less then 10 seconds. After I restart citadel on the 12.3 machine and check the configuration, nothing has changed from the default config. It seems that none of the mail, configuration, anything at all, is actually copied. Am I missing something?

As which user are you connecting to the "main machine"?

While it's generally not recommended as a security practice, I recommend enabling SSH remote login for root on the "main" system, long enough to perform the process, and then button it back up when you're done.

alex007:

Support for -t has been dropped. You need to go through syslog, now.

Use -llocal6 (or local7) and configure your syslog.conf like this:

add "local6.none" to the end of the facilities list on the "/var/log/messages" line

add "local6.*<tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab>/var/log/citadel.log"

And reload syslogd.

Or, if you're running rsyslogd, instead, edit rsyslog.conf, do the same for the /var/log/messages line, and then add:

if $programname == 'citserver' then /var/log/citadel.log
if $programname == 'citserver' then ~

And if you want to do the same for webcit, add:

if $programname == 'webcit' then /var/log/webcit.log
if $programname == 'webcit' then ~

And then reload rsyslogd.

Is there any way to get WEBCIT to use a different 'hello' file than the one it currently shares with the command line Citadel?

Reason: I want to use ASCII art in the 'hello' file for the SSH users, and that just looks like hell on the WebCit side.

ctdlmigrate doesn't care what method was used to install citadel or even what OS or hardware platforms are being migrated to/from.

The process exports the entire database to XML on the source and then imports the entire database from that XML, as well as transferring various support files (netconfigs, info files, messages such as the hello and goodbye files, etc).

yes, exactly.

thanks a lot, now we know this spur empty line was not introduced in citadels i/o layer, and that we can add a workaround for other peoples bugs instead of having to track down our own ;-)

 

 

Fri Mar 22 2013 05:35:52 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

 

Thu Mar 21 2013 11:41:53 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

ok, yes there were two sessions, i isolated one, I cut the file, so you can only see the log, when the pop3 Connector tries to fetch the mails from my provider.

Sorry that there are about 2400 rows, but maybe the completly log is of more help

is this entry(row 2480) remarkable:

Mar 21 16:06:06 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: < -ERR invalid sequence number: "0"

(, 0 bytes) [View| Download]

 

ah, yes, I guess this one is the reason for that:

Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: POP3SetTimeout
Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: <
Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: POP3SetTimeout
Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: < 805 32804

(so probably the list fetcher needs to filter out empty lines to work around this)

Could you please revalidate, whether this is real existing noise on the wire or whether its produced inside of citserver?

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

you should filter the tcpdump for port 110 and the host IP of the pop3 server.

Loading the tcpdump into wireshark should then show you that communication; ( menu option "follow tcpstream" )

you're searching for an empty line in that list of numbers.

(, 0 bytes) [View| Download]

 

here is the result of the tcpdump

here is the command, I used:

>tcpdump -s0 -w tcpdump.log host pop.1und1.de and port 110

the file is the output of Wireshark with the option "follow tcpstream", as you said.

Note: there are 2 empty lines after Number 543 und 804. Is it this, what you mean?

 

 

Fri Mar 22 2013 07:14:51 EDTfrom luja @ Uncensored Subject: Linux how ton deploy citadel using encrypted fs to store mails there?

Hi

i would like to have citadel on my pbx server.

This machine has, as almost all an encrypted data partition. Now how to make sure, that sensible data (contacts, calender and expecially emails!) go to the encrypted storage?

where are the files on disk? what to symlink?

 

 

how to use gpg with citadel?

 

 

Regarding "retrocomputing" I would also like to configure modem-access using my pbx, so I would be able to dial in to read my mails. Would be a killer feature in our "Web 23.0" times :-)

How to do this? megetty?

Have fun

luja

start your RTFM here: http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:how_do_i_get_citadel

Hi

 

i would like to have citadel on my pbx server.

This machine has, as almost all an encrypted data partition. Now how to make sure, that sensible data (contacts, calender and expecially emails!) go to the encrypted storage?

where are the files on disk? what to symlink?

how to use gpg with citadel?

 

Regarding "retrocomputing" I would also like to configure modem-access using my pbx, so I would be able to dial in to read my mails. Would be a killer feature in our "Web 23.0" times :-)

How to do this? megetty?

 

Have fun

 

luja

 

 

Thu Mar 21 2013 11:41:53 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

ok, yes there were two sessions, i isolated one, I cut the file, so you can only see the log, when the pop3 Connector tries to fetch the mails from my provider.

Sorry that there are about 2400 rows, but maybe the completly log is of more help

is this entry(row 2480) remarkable:

Mar 21 16:06:06 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: < -ERR invalid sequence number: "0"

(, 0 bytes) [View| Download]

 

ah, yes, I guess this one is the reason for that:

Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: POP3SetTimeout
Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: <
Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: POP3SetTimeout
Mar 21 16:06:02 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: < 805 32804

(so probably the list fetcher needs to filter out empty lines to work around this)

Could you please revalidate, whether this is real existing noise on the wire or whether its produced inside of citserver?

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

you should filter the tcpdump for port 110 and the host IP of the pop3 server.

Loading the tcpdump into wireshark should then show you that communication; ( menu option "follow tcpstream" )

you're searching for an empty line in that list of numbers.

ok, yes there were two sessions, i isolated one, I cut the file, so you can only see the log, when the pop3 Connector tries to fetch the mails from my provider.

Sorry that there are about 2400 rows, but maybe the completly log is of more help

is this entry(row 2480) remarkable:

Mar 21 16:06:06 8punkt2server citserver[4493]: IO[520]CC[520][516]POP3: < -ERR invalid sequence number: "0"

I have one physical interface and two virtual on my system.

eth0 <- main Internet address that I would like to leave unused by mail system

eth0:1 <- local subnet with private address space

eth0:2 <- secondary Internet address I would like to restrict e-mail to

Right now I am listening on all ("*") addresses. I can specify Citadel to listen to my eth0:2 Internet address but then machines on my local subnet can't access the server through the eth0:1 address.

Can I bind Citadel to only the eth0:1 and eth0:2 addresses? Leaving my eth0 address unused by the mail system?

 

Wed Mar 20 2013 13:43:30 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

 

Ok, I've done that.

I attached a section of syslog, tried to cut it. Please have a look at it

These rows repeatet several hundred times:

Mar 20 17:28:44 8punkt2server citserver[24804]: IO[358]CC[358][341]POP3: POP3SetTimeout
Mar 20 17:28:44 8punkt2server citserver[24804]: IO[358]CC[358][341]POP3: < 943 12130

Wed Mar 20 2013 11:58:23 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

Administration->Enable/Disable logging of the server components->pop3client

(please note that this is not restart safe, and increases the volume of lines put into syslog)

yup, nothing special there.

Note: all lines with

one of the both: IO[358]CC[358] belong to this session. For details howto insulate one session  see http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=blob;f=citadel/techdoc/logging.txt;h=425683d346308fc56f5e2a4d29442614b64be3b8;hb=e14009d3009ea58a433e15e51e9c57a255677a01

there are two sorts of lists:

 - the number list, which is the first list; these numbers are just valid for this session.

 - then the UID-list, which has to be looked up one by one. These are uniq per message.

Do you run several sessions on one mail acount at once?

In general, you should see as many first and second lines as the prompt quotes messages are in this box.

Else the server doesn't return all lines. In that case, the only solution probably is to delete mails after retrieval to solve this issue.

We can't fetch what the server doesn't tell us it has.

 

Ok, I've done that.

I attached a section of syslog, tried to cut it. Please have a look at it

These rows repeatet several hundred times:

Mar 20 17:28:44 8punkt2server citserver[24804]: IO[358]CC[358][341]POP3: POP3SetTimeout
Mar 20 17:28:44 8punkt2server citserver[24804]: IO[358]CC[358][341]POP3: < 943 12130

Wed Mar 20 2013 11:58:23 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

Administration->Enable/Disable logging of the server components->pop3client

(please note that this is not restart safe, and increases the volume of lines put into syslog)

 

Administration->Enable/Disable logging of the server components->pop3client

(please note that this is not restart safe, and increases the volume of lines put into syslog)

Thanks, but how can I activate the debug logging for the pop3 connector or can you give a advice, where can I find that information?

 

Wed Mar 20 2013 09:54:50 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

you should enable debug logging for the pop3 connector.

I know at least for the google pop server, that it doesn't always return the full set of messages in the list; maybe 1&1 does similar?

 

you should enable debug logging for the pop3 connector.

I know at least for the google pop server, that it doesn't always return the full set of messages in the list; maybe 1&1 does similar?

 

Mon Mar 18 2013 11:44:11 EDT from alex007 @ Uncensored Subject: problems of fetching pop3 Mails

Hello all,

for about 2 month I've got the problem, that the fetching of mails with pop3 doesn't work properly. I receive the mails after about 2-3 hours. Citadel tries to retieve the messages every 6 minutes (300 seconds) Syslog tells every 6 minutes:

Mar 18 16:36:24 8punkt2server citserver[1300]: IO[70]CC[70][65]my.name@mycompany.de@pop.1und1.de: fetched 0 new of 928 messages in 4.084296s. bye.

 

But I checked the pop3 function with Thunderbird, it workes, Thunderbird can retrieve the messages properly (yes with pop3!)

 

Could anybody notice this behaviour too?

Thanks for help

I'm still looking for an answer to solve my problem. I checked the syslog and found the entry when citadel fetched the mails with pop3, after about 50 useless attempts.

Does this log entry tell something else, which could be relevant?

 

Mar 19 21:04:17 8punkt2server citserver[24804]: IO[90]CC[90][89]alexander.baath@8p2.de@pop.1und1.de: fetched 10 new of 935 messages in 40.636961s. bye.
Mar 19 21:04:20 8punkt2server citserver[24804]: Context: [ 90]SRV[POP3aggr] Session ended.

Thanks for your help!

Alex

Tue Mar 19 2013 08:53:41 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: citadel and its logfile use of the Option -tTraceFile

these options are no longer available. Citserver & Webcit strictly use syslog for logging purposes.

you need to configure your syslog to put messages from citserver into its own file.

 

 

Tue Mar 19 2013 21:52:32 EDT from cbraxton @ Uncensored Subject: Are deleted messages actually deleted?

When deleting a message in Citadel, is the message actually deleted (the space is freed up to the OS) or is the message kept and simply marked as deleted in the database? If the latter, is there a way to "compress" or "compact" the database so that such messages are actually deleted? (I've been looking through the documentation and haven't seen any info on this.)

http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:developers:deferred_processing

has all information on this subject.

When deleting a message in Citadel, is the message actually deleted (the space is freed up to the OS) or is the message kept and simply marked as deleted in the database? If the latter, is there a way to "compress" or "compact" the database so that such messages are actually deleted? (I've been looking through the documentation and haven't seen any info on this.)

 

Tue Mar 19 2013 10:11:23 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: question regarding ctdlmigrate

 Does the ctdlmigrate utility work if one machine is an easy install and

the

other is rpm based? My main server is an easyinstall on opensuse 12.2 amd64.

If it's not working then clearly we have something to look at, but the answer to your question is yes, it's designed to work between different distributions.

Do you require more information? 

these options are no longer available. Citserver & Webcit strictly use syslog for logging purposes.

you need to configure your syslog to put messages from citserver into its own file.

Hallo,

I just want to citadel puts its logfile not to /var/log/syslog, but in an file. I edited /etc/init.d/citadel:

>DAEMON_ARGS="-d -x3 -tcitadellog"

but it fails to write the log to the file citadellog. No such file exists

 

As a second try I startet citadel server manually with:

>citserver -x5 -tcitadellog

no logfile citadellog found.

 

Please help!

 Hi,

 

 Does the ctdlmigrate utility work if one machine is an easy install and the other is rpm based? My main server is an easyinstall on opensuse 12.2 amd64. I have another machine that I have used the rpms to install citadel. It is opensuse 12.3 amd64. When I run the ctdlmigrate utility on the 12.3 machine, it connects to the main box ok and then it seems to start copying files and then exits stating that it completed successfully. The whole process takes less then 10 seconds. After I restart citadel on the 12.3 machine and check the configuration, nothing has changed from the default config. It seems that none of the mail, configuration, anything at all, is actually copied. Am I missing something?

have a look at these faqs:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:everydayuse:postmaster_and_co

http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.lhfs.rpm.deb.installs.put.them

i am using the appliance- but yes, that was the correct location and the command worked. it reassured me mail to that address would be delivered to the user i am logging in to but didn't say where.

i looked back at the earlier post and found that it was in fact being delivered to the Aide folder. where is this configured? i haven't yet connected to the mailserver with outlook to see how this looks...

Hello all,

for about 2 month I've got the problem, that the fetching of mails with pop3 doesn't work properly. I receive the mails after about 2-3 hours. Citadel tries to retieve the messages every 6 minutes (300 seconds) Syslog tells every 6 minutes:

Mar 18 16:36:24 8punkt2server citserver[1300]: IO[70]CC[70][65]my.name@mycompany.de@pop.1und1.de: fetched 0 new of 928 messages in 4.084296s. bye.

 

But I checked the pop3 function with Thunderbird, it workes, Thunderbird can retrieve the messages properly (yes with pop3!)

 

Could anybody notice this behaviour too?

Thanks for help

First you have to configure inter-citadel networking on both nodes in

Administration->Configure replication with other Citadel servers

if you put in 0.0.0.0 as IP, the node will become passive - not doing outbound connections - usefull for nodes which are behind dialins and thus moving targets.

You need to configure this on both nodes.

Then you can edit rooms on both sides, which should be shared to the other node (and back) in

Advanced -> Edit or delete this room -> the 'Sharing'-Tab.

if you did use easy install, you need to call it with /usr/local/citadel/sendcommand.

Thanks. Nothing obvious in the syslog. Should I be able to run that command from the terminal?

bash: sendcommand: command not found

Please explain on how to setup Citadel replication.

Dear all ,

I have install the citadel from the source everything is working

But what I'm facing at this time is :

If I don’t webcit command  I can't log in to the website

 

I have to do on of these to get the website working

#webcit

Or :

/usr/local/citadel/citadel/./webcit

 

 

Any idea how to fix that and make it work without any Intervention from me 

if you have a look at syslog, citserver shows into which exact room the mail is saved.

using

sendcommand qdir <emailaddress>

you can also gather this information.

Please note that some of the RFC demanded default email addresses end up in the aide room.

Telnet test makes it appear everything is working- but the message never appears in "mail". Are there any logs I can check etc?

 

Lees-MacBook-Pro-2:~ leetickett$ telnet mx.xxx.com 25

Trying 21.18.19.4...

Connected to mx.xxx.com.

Escape character is '^]'.

220 mx.xxx.com ESMTP Citadel server ready.

ehlo

250-Hello  (10.0.0.1 [10.0.0.1])

250-HELP

250-SIZE 10485760

250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN

250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN

250 8BITMIME

mail from:lee@gmail.com

250 Sender ok

rcpt to:admin@xxx.com

250 RCPT ok <admin@xxx.com>

DATA

354 Transmit message now - terminate with '.' by itself

Come on, please work this time!

.

250 Message accepted.

Ah... I lack a Mac, so I wouldn't see what Safari does.

You have to edit your users vcard.

so you have to login as them, download the vcard and change the contents.

the php client has a sample script which does this for one user.

Thu Mar 14 2013 11:48:10 EDT from Daniele Rossignoli @ Uncensored Subject: Re: USE LOGON NAME INSTEAD OF DISPLAYED NAME FOR EMAIL ADDRESSES OF WIN AD

Dear Thanks.

 

on this links i've find a NICE php to automate user login, this is a good add-on for sso systems, thanks.

 

but i cannot find anything related on my "Issue" change way in wich citadel decide to create email addresses for users.

 

I think that MUST be somewhere in citadel files, a file that tell citserver HOW to create email addresses for my LDAP users (like OPENLDAP schemas files)

 

but...WHERE?

 

 

 

 

Thu Mar 14 2013 05:55:34 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: USE LOGON NAME INSTEAD OF DISPLAYED NAME FOR EMAIL ADDRESSES OF WIN AD

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:migrating_ldap_into_citadel

has hints on changing vcards.

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:generalquestions:i_want_to_automate

notes the php sample client, which has code to automated log in as a user, and edit his personal vcard. It can be found in git:

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=tree;f=ctdlphp;h=46d05752bd0ccfb1c85302542565ef90bd77a31c;hb=master

 

 

Dear Thanks.

 

on this links i've find a NICE php to automate user login, this is a good add-on for sso systems, thanks.

 

but i cannot find anything related on my "Issue" change way in wich citadel decide to create email addresses for users.

 

I think that MUST be somewhere in citadel files, a file that tell citserver HOW to create email addresses for my LDAP users (like OPENLDAP schemas files)

 

but...WHERE?

 

 

 

 

Thu Mar 14 2013 05:55:34 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: USE LOGON NAME INSTEAD OF DISPLAYED NAME FOR EMAIL ADDRESSES OF WIN AD

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:migrating_ldap_into_citadel

has hints on changing vcards.

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:generalquestions:i_want_to_automate

notes the php sample client, which has code to automated log in as a user, and edit his personal vcard. It can be found in git:

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=tree;f=ctdlphp;h=46d05752bd0ccfb1c85302542565ef90bd77a31c;hb=master

 

Hello,

from time to time some questions pop up about how to install and configure citadel on a RPM based linux system. To answer most of the questions I wrote two FAQ articles:

• http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:installing_citadel_on_rpm_based_distro
• http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:systemadmin:systemd

And the installation instructions are still accessible under http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:rpm

Best regards
Stefan

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:migrating_ldap_into_citadel

has hints on changing vcards.

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:generalquestions:i_want_to_automate

notes the php sample client, which has code to automated log in as a user, and edit his personal vcard. It can be found in git:

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=tree;f=ctdlphp;h=46d05752bd0ccfb1c85302542565ef90bd77a31c;hb=master

 

Dear, i've 150 users inside a :D it's not suitable to change one by one manually!

 

there must be somewhere in citadel blood system some configuration text that tell citserver to use full name instead of username!

 

I "mine" :D each day for this, but i HOPE that some developer tell simply filename to edit :D

 

 

Wed Mar 13 2013 10:26:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: USE LOGON NAME INSTEAD OF DISPLAYED NAME FOR EMAIL ADDRESSES OF WIN AD

You can edit each user's address book entry to configure multiple email addresses and set the preferred one for outgoing email.

 

so i wish have for example for user mario rossi  the email in format M.Rossi@domain.ext instead of Mario_Rossi@domain.ext

 

 

You can edit each user's address book entry to configure multiple email addresses and set the preferred one for outgoing email.

 

so i wish have for example for user mario rossi  the email in format M.Rossi@domain.ext instead of Mario_Rossi@domain.ext

 

Dear All.

 

i'm sysadmin of an italian company, i'm implementing citadel as collaboration platform, and it's very very good, considering that it's 100% free :D

 

I'm actually using the virtual machine version with Active Directory integration, that work very well.

 

I've an "Issue"

 

Emails addresses for users are in format  Firstname_Lastname@mydomain, but i wish to use only first letter of first name, like logons username on the whole network (it's a full SSO network)

 

so i wish have for example for user mario rossi  the email in format M.Rossi@domain.ext instead of Mario_Rossi@domain.ext

 

I've checked all configuration files, but i cannot find anything usable for this purposes.

 

Anybody can support me in this?

 

Best Regards.

 

Daniele

The fine docs pointed the way.  Thanks to those that keep the wiki updates coming as well.

 

Mon Mar 11 2013 12:16:11 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Spell check in TinyMCE

I will let my main tester (wife), know that the permanant fix might be in the works.  I never notice these things as I just accept my misspellings :-)  Thanks!

cool, if I now install the german language pack this works.

thanks for finding this out; committed.

I will let my main tester (wife), know that the permanant fix might be in the works.  I never notice these things as I just accept my misspellings :-)  Thanks!

oh, thats probably a good thing to enable for everyone

The defaults for the TinyMCE editor seem to be missing spell check for some browsers in the current release.  I have copied the richedit.html and added the option for gecko_spellcheck : true, which I added to the static.local/t directory and restarted webcit and now spell check works in Chrome.  Any harm in leaving that override in place going forward, or rolling it in to the changes to the original file that anybody can see?

 

Sat Mar 09 2013 02:07:20 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Exists some changelog from 8.14 to 8.16 ?

yes, there is.

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/stable-81x

dothebart!

I was eager to see the proposal's Benjamin Bochmann of the log level and wow!; I see it in this version. I can't wait to install it now.

All the day long I'm checking the logs to block spammers IP, currently need to do a lot of voodoo with tail+grep to clean the events and the wordy log make me miss some.

Thanks for the effort!

yes, there is.

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/stable-81x

Exists somewhere a changelog from 8.14 - 8.15 - 8.16

I'm using Citadel 8.14 with WebCit 8.14, server build 8.14 (in Debian)

I see just 3 upgradable packages:

i  U  citadel-common___8.14-1____8.16-1
i  U  citadel-suite______8.14-1____8.16-1
i  U  citadel-doc_______8.14-1____8.16-1

I really wish to know about the issues fixed and created with the new version.

Regards

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone else can offer some suggestions about my recent posts about calendar sharing using Outlook and Citadel?

 hi ,

thank you for your replay .. but can you talk in deep details 

the link that you send dosent contain info . 

how i will do that ,

first i have found the location of the gettect.c file

/usr/share/citadel/citadel/webcit/gettext.c    

and i have edit it what should i put there if my file name is ar.po and how i can compile the webcit 

 

best regards ,

husam 

Ideally I would like to be able to view and modify another user's calendar and appointments and vice versa within Outlook by accessing other users' calendars on Citadel server. The shared public calendars do not display calendars per se in Outlook.

you should be able to create public calendar rooms, which you then can access from several clients.

be carefull, the dropdown may flip back by javascript.

Hi everyone,

I am hoping to replace an older Exchange Server 5.5 with Citadel. I will primarily be using it for shared calendaring and public contacts between a handful of users. We would like to keep using Outlook as our client. I have been trying to figure out how to do this using the Bynari connector installed on 2 test machines but can't seem to put my finger on what I am doing wrong. My Citadel server is up and running. I am able to add users and share their calendars when using webcit as the login but can't seem to add these shared calendars within Outlook with the Bynari Connector. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to hear from someone who can offer their experienced opinion about my issues.

Thanking You in Advance,

Gaston

Dear sirs ,

 

I have complete the Arabic - translation and I got tow files 1 .po and the the other one is .mo from launchpad.

How can I install them to the citadel ?

 

Best regards ,

And thanks in advanced

Husam uldeen shabeeb

 

Hi,

first thanks for your participation.

you have to edit webcit/gettext.c like in this commit:

http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commit;h=8637e272fdb07a5b7f6d95dce8e27fce2daa6c76

and then recompile & install webcit.

you then will be able to choose your new translated language.

Dear sirs ,

 

I have complete the translation and I got tow files 1 .po and the the other one is .mo from launchpad.

How can I install them to the citadel ?

 

 

Best regards ,

And thanks in advanced

Husam uldeen shabeeb

 

Ah, ok I can reproduce the same issue connecting with Outlook 2010 to the uncensored.citadel.org server. Looks like a definate incompatibility between Outlook 2010 and Citadel :'-(

Strangely I can connect to an account I have hosted with 1and1.com via IMAP and Outlook 2010 has no issue moving messages between folders. So it seem to not be an issue soley with Outlook 2010, but rather some incompatibility between the IMAP implementation in Citadel and that in Outlook 2010.

Unfortunately, as much as I would like to use Citadel the inability to move messages using Outlook 2010 is a deal-breaker for my client (and likely many others looking to migrate off of Exchange). Will probably keep my Citadel server up for another week or two, so please let me know if I can be of help resolving this issue (if indeed it can be resolved on the server side).

Will send you a PM with a download link for the Outlook 2010 installer in case you care to troubleshoot further.

Thank you again and best regards,

Ryan

 

 

Tue Mar 05 2013 03:09:26 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

 

Tue Mar 05 2013 15:02:07 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Thanks again for the reply and the info :-)

I actually do have a case open with Microsoft, but they have been less than responsive :-\

If I could provide you with a copy of Outlook 2010 might you have time to test reproducing the message move issue on your Citadel system?

Just hoping to confirm whether or not this issue is unique to my Citadel deployment.

Best regards,

Ryan

Simply point your outlook over here to your uncensored account, and retry.

While its running bleeding edge over here, the Imap stack wasn't touched since the last release afair.

Keep us informed how the support case works out.

 

 

Tue Mar 05 2013 15:02:07 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Thanks again for the reply and the info :-)

I actually do have a case open with Microsoft, but they have been less than responsive :-\

If I could provide you with a copy of Outlook 2010 might you have time to test reproducing the message move issue on your Citadel system?

Just hoping to confirm whether or not this issue is unique to my Citadel deployment.

Best regards,

Ryan

Simply point your outlook over here to your uncensored account, and retry.

While its running bleeding edge over here, the Imap stack wasn't touched since the last release afair.

Keep us informed how the support case works out.

Thanks again for the reply and the info :-)

I actually do have a case open with Microsoft, but they have been less than responsive :-\

If I could provide you with a copy of Outlook 2010 might you have time to test reproducing the message move issue on your Citadel system?

Just hoping to confirm whether or not this issue is unique to my Citadel deployment.

Best regards,

Ryan

 

 

Tue Mar 05 2013 02:37:42 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

hm, OK, I don't own a copy of outlook. However, lets compare this to what thunderbird does over here:

A move in Imap consists of a Copy with a following delete;

This is the copy (which you also had in your log):

citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] 17 uid copy 95496 "INBOX/Drafts"
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] Found.
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] (That translates to "Drafts")
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] IMAP command completed in 0.19672 seconds

and this is the following delete:
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] 18 uid store 95496 +FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen)
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] Found.
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] IMAP command completed in 0.5879 seconds

This is what happenes on the wire;

the Move:

T 127.0.0.1:55006 -> 127.0.0.1:143 [AP]
6 uid copy 95465 "INBOX/Drafts".
T 127.0.0.1:143 -> 127.0.0.1:55006 [AP]
6 OK [COPYUID 95465] UID COPY completed.

And the delete:
T 127.0.0.1:55006 -> 127.0.0.1:143 [AP]
7 uid store 95465 +FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen).
T 127.0.0.1:143 -> 127.0.0.1:55006 [AP]
7 OK UID STORE completed.

 

as you can see, IMAP consists out of a sequence id of a command, and the command itself. The server identifies its reply by prepending the ID specified by the  client.

For Thunderbird these are in our case '6' and '7'
For your Outlook, these are '1y1s' in the copy.

As the popup indicates, the copy went similar for outlook; but for some reason its not satisfied with the result.

It echoes you its complaint, plus the the server reply.

You should open a Ticket with your client vendor, prompting this analysis.

Once they give more details about what they think is wrong here (or whats wrong with the interpretation of the reply) we can see whether this can be fixed in citadel, or outlook.

One hint: the source and the target message IDs are the same, since citadel keeps references to the messages itself, like you could do with a hard link on files in the filesystem. However, since the format of the message IDs is defined of being any string, this is legal by the imap specs.

 

One note about the 'expunge' config setting you mentioned - to quicken deletion of messages setting the flags as seen in the second command and reduce server load, some imap servers defer the processing of deletion until the client issues 'expunge'; If the connection meanwhile dies, deleted messages will "return". Since citadel doesn't have any performance impact from deleting messages (its a quick db operation which is rather cheap) you can make deletion happen instantly.  However, as your logfile output shows, Outlook struggles with the copy command, and doesn't even issue the delete command - so instant expunge or not - this doesn't work.

 

Tue Mar 05 2013 12:16:41 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Thank you so much for the reply dothebart :-)

I enabled imapsrv logging as you suggested and attempted to move a message from Inbox to Inbox/subfolder but there was no additonal information logged in /var/log/messages

However, I did find the following logged in /var/log/citadel.log:

 

Mar  5 11:00:13 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: [30][Ryan Covietz(11)] NOOP
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: Network full processing in 306 seconds.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 115 messages processed 0 activated
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: network: no neighbor nodes are configured - not polling.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: No external notifiers configured on system/user
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: -- db checkpoint --
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] 1y1s UID COPY 55 "INBOX/subfolder"
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPC

Also, below is the error message generated by Outlook 2010 when I attempted this message move:

 

Any ideas on what might be causing this? Are others actually able to move messages between folders using Outlook 2010?

 

Thank you again and best regards,

Ryan

 

 

 

Sat Mar 02 2013 07:00:36 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hm, weird.

can you tick

Administration ->Enable/Disable logging of the server components -> imapsrv

and then do a move attempt and cut & paste whats logged in /var/log/messages?

Also a Sniff with TLS disabled and a dummy account/password would be nice.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

 

Fri Mar 01 2013 19:33:49 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hi all, I recently setup a new Citadel server (on CentOS 6.3) for a client and have run into a showstopper problem. Basically, we discovered it is not possible to move messages between folders and/or subfolders using Outlook 2010. (I should note here that the 125 or so end-users all use Outlook 2010, and it is not in my power to force them to change the mail client)

So in particular, I have discovered that moving messages between folders in a mailbox connected via IMAP from Outlook 2010 does not work. Attempting to move a message from one folder (say the Inbox) to another folder or subfolder results in a warning/error message pop-up stating:

 

"Cannot move the items. xxxx OK [COPYUID XXXXX] UID COPY completed"

 

...where xxxx and XXXXX consist of various/random letters and numbers respectively.

 

The message does usually get copied to the new folder (not moved), but the original copy still remains in the old folder. The message in the original folder is not marked as deleted nor is it expunged. This issue does not occur with Outlook 2007 SP3 connected to the same IMAP mailbox. The messages can also be moved without issue via the WebCit interface.

All other message send, receive, copy, and delete functionality between Outlook 2010 and Citadel via IMAP seems to work fine. Only the ability to move messages is broken (but this is a big deal for my client). Again, Outlook 2007 SP3 can move messages without issue. Also, this issue is not related to .PST file corruption as I can consistantly reproduce the problem on any Windows 7 machine running Outlook 2010. Furthermore, I can connect Outlook 2010 to other IMAP servers (such as Open-Xchange) and move messages between folders without issue, so this seems to not be an issue solely with Outlook 2010.

Lastly, I have tried toggling the "Instantly expunge deleted messages in IMAP" option on/off, as well as all of the relative account settings in Outlook 2010 to no avail :'-(

 

Client and server versions are as follows:

Mail client is Outlook 2010 version 14.0.6123.5001 (64-bit)

Mail server is Citadel version 8.14-5.2

 

Has anyone run into this issue with Citadel and Outlook 2010 before?

 

Any assistance in resolving this issue would be much appreciated.

 

 

Thank you in advance,

Ryan

 

 

 

 

hm, OK, I don't own a copy of outlook. However, lets compare this to what thunderbird does over here:

A move in Imap consists of a Copy with a following delete;

This is the copy (which you also had in your log):

citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] 17 uid copy 95496 "INBOX/Drafts"
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] Found.
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] (That translates to "Drafts")
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] IMAP command completed in 0.19672 seconds

and this is the following delete:
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] 18 uid store 95496 +FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen)
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] Found.
citserver[14045]: IMAPCC[6] IMAP command completed in 0.5879 seconds

This is what happenes on the wire;

the Move:

T 127.0.0.1:55006 -> 127.0.0.1:143 [AP]
6 uid copy 95465 "INBOX/Drafts".
T 127.0.0.1:143 -> 127.0.0.1:55006 [AP]
6 OK [COPYUID 95465] UID COPY completed.

And the delete:
T 127.0.0.1:55006 -> 127.0.0.1:143 [AP]
7 uid store 95465 +FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen).
T 127.0.0.1:143 -> 127.0.0.1:55006 [AP]
7 OK UID STORE completed.

 

as you can see, IMAP consists out of a sequence id of a command, and the command itself. The server identifies its reply by prepending the ID specified by the  client.

For Thunderbird these are in our case '6' and '7'
For your Outlook, these are '1y1s' in the copy.

As the popup indicates, the copy went similar for outlook; but for some reason its not satisfied with the result.

It echoes you its complaint, plus the the server reply.

You should open a Ticket with your client vendor, prompting this analysis.

Once they give more details about what they think is wrong here (or whats wrong with the interpretation of the reply) we can see whether this can be fixed in citadel, or outlook.

One hint: the source and the target message IDs are the same, since citadel keeps references to the messages itself, like you could do with a hard link on files in the filesystem. However, since the format of the message IDs is defined of being any string, this is legal by the imap specs.

 

One note about the 'expunge' config setting you mentioned - to quicken deletion of messages setting the flags as seen in the second command and reduce server load, some imap servers defer the processing of deletion until the client issues 'expunge'; If the connection meanwhile dies, deleted messages will "return". Since citadel doesn't have any performance impact from deleting messages (its a quick db operation which is rather cheap) you can make deletion happen instantly.  However, as your logfile output shows, Outlook struggles with the copy command, and doesn't even issue the delete command - so instant expunge or not - this doesn't work.

 

Tue Mar 05 2013 12:16:41 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Thank you so much for the reply dothebart :-)

I enabled imapsrv logging as you suggested and attempted to move a message from Inbox to Inbox/subfolder but there was no additonal information logged in /var/log/messages

However, I did find the following logged in /var/log/citadel.log:

 

Mar  5 11:00:13 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: [30][Ryan Covietz(11)] NOOP
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: Network full processing in 306 seconds.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 115 messages processed 0 activated
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: network: no neighbor nodes are configured - not polling.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: No external notifiers configured on system/user
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: -- db checkpoint --
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] 1y1s UID COPY 55 "INBOX/subfolder"
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPC

Also, below is the error message generated by Outlook 2010 when I attempted this message move:

 

Any ideas on what might be causing this? Are others actually able to move messages between folders using Outlook 2010?

 

Thank you again and best regards,

Ryan

 

 

 

Sat Mar 02 2013 07:00:36 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hm, weird.

can you tick

Administration ->Enable/Disable logging of the server components -> imapsrv

and then do a move attempt and cut & paste whats logged in /var/log/messages?

Also a Sniff with TLS disabled and a dummy account/password would be nice.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

 

Fri Mar 01 2013 19:33:49 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hi all, I recently setup a new Citadel server (on CentOS 6.3) for a client and have run into a showstopper problem. Basically, we discovered it is not possible to move messages between folders and/or subfolders using Outlook 2010. (I should note here that the 125 or so end-users all use Outlook 2010, and it is not in my power to force them to change the mail client)

So in particular, I have discovered that moving messages between folders in a mailbox connected via IMAP from Outlook 2010 does not work. Attempting to move a message from one folder (say the Inbox) to another folder or subfolder results in a warning/error message pop-up stating:

 

"Cannot move the items. xxxx OK [COPYUID XXXXX] UID COPY completed"

 

...where xxxx and XXXXX consist of various/random letters and numbers respectively.

 

The message does usually get copied to the new folder (not moved), but the original copy still remains in the old folder. The message in the original folder is not marked as deleted nor is it expunged. This issue does not occur with Outlook 2007 SP3 connected to the same IMAP mailbox. The messages can also be moved without issue via the WebCit interface.

All other message send, receive, copy, and delete functionality between Outlook 2010 and Citadel via IMAP seems to work fine. Only the ability to move messages is broken (but this is a big deal for my client). Again, Outlook 2007 SP3 can move messages without issue. Also, this issue is not related to .PST file corruption as I can consistantly reproduce the problem on any Windows 7 machine running Outlook 2010. Furthermore, I can connect Outlook 2010 to other IMAP servers (such as Open-Xchange) and move messages between folders without issue, so this seems to not be an issue solely with Outlook 2010.

Lastly, I have tried toggling the "Instantly expunge deleted messages in IMAP" option on/off, as well as all of the relative account settings in Outlook 2010 to no avail :'-(

 

Client and server versions are as follows:

Mail client is Outlook 2010 version 14.0.6123.5001 (64-bit)

Mail server is Citadel version 8.14-5.2

 

Has anyone run into this issue with Citadel and Outlook 2010 before?

 

Any assistance in resolving this issue would be much appreciated.

 

 

Thank you in advance,

Ryan

 

 

 

For reference, below is the log data generated in /var/log/citadel.log after successfully moving the exact same message from Inbox to Inbox/subfolder using Outlook 2007 SP3:

Mar  5 12:37:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: [30][Ryan Covietz(11)] NOOP
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] m4ki UID COPY 55 "INBOX/subfolder"
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] Found.
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] (That translates to "subfolder")
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] IMAP command completed in 0.15568 seconds
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] amtc UID STORE 55 +FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen)
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 12:37:36 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[200] F

Regards,

Ryan

 

 

 

Tue Mar 05 2013 12:16:41 PM EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Thank you so much for the reply dothebart :-)

I enabled imapsrv logging as you suggested and attempted to move a message from Inbox to Inbox/subfolder but there was no additonal information logged in /var/log/messages

However, I did find the following logged in /var/log/citadel.log:

 

Mar  5 11:00:13 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: [30][Ryan Covietz(11)] NOOP
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: Network full processing in 306 seconds.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 115 messages processed 0 activated
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: network: no neighbor nodes are configured - not polling.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: No external notifiers configured on system/user
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: -- db checkpoint --
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] 1y1s UID COPY 55 "INBOX/subfolder"
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPC

Also, below is the error message generated by Outlook 2010 when I attempted this message move:

 

Any ideas on what might be causing this? Are others actually able to move messages between folders using Outlook 2010?

 

Thank you again and best regards,

Ryan

 

 

 

Sat Mar 02 2013 07:00:36 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hm, weird.

can you tick

Administration ->Enable/Disable logging of the server components -> imapsrv

and then do a move attempt and cut & paste whats logged in /var/log/messages?

Also a Sniff with TLS disabled and a dummy account/password would be nice.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

 

Fri Mar 01 2013 19:33:49 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hi all, I recently setup a new Citadel server (on CentOS 6.3) for a client and have run into a showstopper problem. Basically, we discovered it is not possible to move messages between folders and/or subfolders using Outlook 2010. (I should note here that the 125 or so end-users all use Outlook 2010, and it is not in my power to force them to change the mail client)

So in particular, I have discovered that moving messages between folders in a mailbox connected via IMAP from Outlook 2010 does not work. Attempting to move a message from one folder (say the Inbox) to another folder or subfolder results in a warning/error message pop-up stating:

 

"Cannot move the items. xxxx OK [COPYUID XXXXX] UID COPY completed"

 

...where xxxx and XXXXX consist of various/random letters and numbers respectively.

 

The message does usually get copied to the new folder (not moved), but the original copy still remains in the old folder. The message in the original folder is not marked as deleted nor is it expunged. This issue does not occur with Outlook 2007 SP3 connected to the same IMAP mailbox. The messages can also be moved without issue via the WebCit interface.

All other message send, receive, copy, and delete functionality between Outlook 2010 and Citadel via IMAP seems to work fine. Only the ability to move messages is broken (but this is a big deal for my client). Again, Outlook 2007 SP3 can move messages without issue. Also, this issue is not related to .PST file corruption as I can consistantly reproduce the problem on any Windows 7 machine running Outlook 2010. Furthermore, I can connect Outlook 2010 to other IMAP servers (such as Open-Xchange) and move messages between folders without issue, so this seems to not be an issue solely with Outlook 2010.

Lastly, I have tried toggling the "Instantly expunge deleted messages in IMAP" option on/off, as well as all of the relative account settings in Outlook 2010 to no avail :'-(

 

Client and server versions are as follows:

Mail client is Outlook 2010 version 14.0.6123.5001 (64-bit)

Mail server is Citadel version 8.14-5.2

 

Has anyone run into this issue with Citadel and Outlook 2010 before?

 

Any assistance in resolving this issue would be much appreciated.

 

 

Thank you in advance,

Ryan

 

 

 

Thank you so much for the reply dothebart :-)

I enabled imapsrv logging as you suggested and attempted to move a message from Inbox to Inbox/subfolder but there was no additonal information logged in /var/log/messages

However, I did find the following logged in /var/log/citadel.log:

 

Mar  5 11:00:13 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: [30][Ryan Covietz(11)] NOOP
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: Network full processing in 306 seconds.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 115 messages processed 0 activated
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: network: no neighbor nodes are configured - not polling.
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: No external notifiers configured on system/user
Mar  5 11:00:25 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: -- db checkpoint --
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] 1y1s UID COPY 55 "INBOX/subfolder"
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPCC[34] ---- Looking up [UID] -----
Mar  5 11:00:27 svr-chi-ctadel1 citserver[1907]: IMAPC

Also, below is the error message generated by Outlook 2010 when I attempted this message move:

 

Any ideas on what might be causing this? Are others actually able to move messages between folders using Outlook 2010?

 

Thank you again and best regards,

Ryan

 

 

 

Sat Mar 02 2013 07:00:36 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hm, weird.

can you tick

Administration ->Enable/Disable logging of the server components -> imapsrv

and then do a move attempt and cut & paste whats logged in /var/log/messages?

Also a Sniff with TLS disabled and a dummy account/password would be nice.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

 

Fri Mar 01 2013 19:33:49 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hi all, I recently setup a new Citadel server (on CentOS 6.3) for a client and have run into a showstopper problem. Basically, we discovered it is not possible to move messages between folders and/or subfolders using Outlook 2010. (I should note here that the 125 or so end-users all use Outlook 2010, and it is not in my power to force them to change the mail client)

So in particular, I have discovered that moving messages between folders in a mailbox connected via IMAP from Outlook 2010 does not work. Attempting to move a message from one folder (say the Inbox) to another folder or subfolder results in a warning/error message pop-up stating:

 

"Cannot move the items. xxxx OK [COPYUID XXXXX] UID COPY completed"

 

...where xxxx and XXXXX consist of various/random letters and numbers respectively.

 

The message does usually get copied to the new folder (not moved), but the original copy still remains in the old folder. The message in the original folder is not marked as deleted nor is it expunged. This issue does not occur with Outlook 2007 SP3 connected to the same IMAP mailbox. The messages can also be moved without issue via the WebCit interface.

All other message send, receive, copy, and delete functionality between Outlook 2010 and Citadel via IMAP seems to work fine. Only the ability to move messages is broken (but this is a big deal for my client). Again, Outlook 2007 SP3 can move messages without issue. Also, this issue is not related to .PST file corruption as I can consistantly reproduce the problem on any Windows 7 machine running Outlook 2010. Furthermore, I can connect Outlook 2010 to other IMAP servers (such as Open-Xchange) and move messages between folders without issue, so this seems to not be an issue solely with Outlook 2010.

Lastly, I have tried toggling the "Instantly expunge deleted messages in IMAP" option on/off, as well as all of the relative account settings in Outlook 2010 to no avail :'-(

 

Client and server versions are as follows:

Mail client is Outlook 2010 version 14.0.6123.5001 (64-bit)

Mail server is Citadel version 8.14-5.2

 

Has anyone run into this issue with Citadel and Outlook 2010 before?

 

Any assistance in resolving this issue would be much appreciated.

 

 

Thank you in advance,

Ryan

 

 

Hi there,

I am considering of abandoning our exchange server and use Citadel.

Is there a way to get the email messages from the exchange server into Citadel?

Hm, weird.

can you tick

Administration ->Enable/Disable logging of the server components -> imapsrv

and then do a move attempt and cut & paste whats logged in /var/log/messages?

Also a Sniff with TLS disabled and a dummy account/password would be nice.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

 

Fri Mar 01 2013 19:33:49 EST from rcproam @ Uncensored Subject: Issue with moving messages between folders using Outlook 2010

Hi all, I recently setup a new Citadel server (on CentOS 6.3) for a client and have run into a showstopper problem. Basically, we discovered it is not possible to move messages between folders and/or subfolders using Outlook 2010. (I should note here that the 125 or so end-users all use Outlook 2010, and it is not in my power to force them to change the mail client)

So in particular, I have discovered that moving messages between folders in a mailbox connected via IMAP from Outlook 2010 does not work. Attempting to move a message from one folder (say the Inbox) to another folder or subfolder results in a warning/error message pop-up stating:

 

"Cannot move the items. xxxx OK [COPYUID XXXXX] UID COPY completed"

 

...where xxxx and XXXXX consist of various/random letters and numbers respectively.

 

The message does usually get copied to the new folder (not moved), but the original copy still remains in the old folder. The message in the original folder is not marked as deleted nor is it expunged. This issue does not occur with Outlook 2007 SP3 connected to the same IMAP mailbox. The messages can also be moved without issue via the WebCit interface.

All other message send, receive, copy, and delete functionality between Outlook 2010 and Citadel via IMAP seems to work fine. Only the ability to move messages is broken (but this is a big deal for my client). Again, Outlook 2007 SP3 can move messages without issue. Also, this issue is not related to .PST file corruption as I can consistantly reproduce the problem on any Windows 7 machine running Outlook 2010. Furthermore, I can connect Outlook 2010 to other IMAP servers (such as Open-Xchange) and move messages between folders without issue, so this seems to not be an issue solely with Outlook 2010.

Lastly, I have tried toggling the "Instantly expunge deleted messages in IMAP" option on/off, as well as all of the relative account settings in Outlook 2010 to no avail :'-(

 

Client and server versions are as follows:

Mail client is Outlook 2010 version 14.0.6123.5001 (64-bit)

Mail server is Citadel version 8.14-5.2

 

Has anyone run into this issue with Citadel and Outlook 2010 before?

 

Any assistance in resolving this issue would be much appreciated.

 

 

Thank you in advance,

Ryan

 

Hi all, I recently setup a new Citadel server (on CentOS 6.3) for a client and have run into a showstopper problem. Basically, we discovered it is not possible to move messages between folders and/or subfolders using Outlook 2010. (I should note here that the 125 or so end-users all use Outlook 2010, and it is not in my power to force them to change the mail client)

So in particular, I have discovered that moving messages between folders in a mailbox connected via IMAP from Outlook 2010 does not work. Attempting to move a message from one folder (say the Inbox) to another folder or subfolder results in a warning/error message pop-up stating:

 

"Cannot move the items. xxxx OK [COPYUID XXXXX] UID COPY completed"

 

...where xxxx and XXXXX consist of various/random letters and numbers respectively.

 

The message does usually get copied to the new folder (not moved), but the original copy still remains in the old folder. The message in the original folder is not marked as deleted nor is it expunged. This issue does not occur with Outlook 2007 SP3 connected to the same IMAP mailbox. The messages can also be moved without issue via the WebCit interface.

All other message send, receive, copy, and delete functionality between Outlook 2010 and Citadel via IMAP seems to work fine. Only the ability to move messages is broken (but this is a big deal for my client). Again, Outlook 2007 SP3 can move messages without issue. Also, this issue is not related to .PST file corruption as I can consistantly reproduce the problem on any Windows 7 machine running Outlook 2010. Furthermore, I can connect Outlook 2010 to other IMAP servers (such as Open-Xchange) and move messages between folders without issue, so this seems to not be an issue solely with Outlook 2010.

Lastly, I have tried toggling the "Instantly expunge deleted messages in IMAP" option on/off, as well as all of the relative account settings in Outlook 2010 to no avail :'-(

 

Client and server versions are as follows:

Mail client is Outlook 2010 version 14.0.6123.5001 (64-bit)

Mail server is Citadel version 8.14-5.2

 

Has anyone run into this issue with Citadel and Outlook 2010 before?

 

Any assistance in resolving this issue would be much appreciated.

 

 

Thank you in advance,

Ryan

Thu Feb 28 2013 19:39:03 EST from Katronix @ Uncensored Subject: Using as web host email server

Greetings all,

I'm currently in the process of building a small web hosting business, and looking at using Citadel as the email server. If I set the login to being System based, would each of my customers be able to manage their own email addresses for their own domains?

Or would I need to to tell it in the admin panel about every domain added? My idea is to have 1 Citadel per shared server I set up.

Thanks,

Kat

if you use system accounts, there has to be a shell login for each user - which probably may not be what your customers want since adding new accounts is more complicated.

Yes, they will be able to add email aliases to existing accounts - but without shell access & root be unable to create new users.

I guess you're better off with internal accounts.

Greetings all,

 

I'm currently in the process of building a small web hosting business, and looking at using Citadel as the email server. If I set the login to being System based, would each of my customers be able to manage their own email addresses for their own domains?

 

Or would I need to to tell it in the admin panel about every domain added? My idea is to have 1 Citadel per shared server I set up.

 

Thanks,

 

Kat

Hello,

we´re trying to use a test installation to switch from exchange to another groupware server. As citadel is simple to install, backup, restore i like to use this.

After installation, switching to active directory authentification, installing bynari test version to windows, configuring outlook there are several problems with the folder names in a german outlook version. As e.g. the calendar folder in german outlook is called "Kalender" and the folder in citadel is called "Calendar" i have to remove the citadel folder in outlook, and remake it as a new folder named "Calendar" with the type "Kalender". After this procedure the synchronisation works like a charme. I have to rerun this procedure for the notes folder (german "Notiz") and the tasks (german "Aufgaben"). All of them work than. The contacts folder won´t as the contents of citadel does not include complete addresses but only a mail including the contact name as subject.

Should work citadel with german versions of outlook (2010) as normal as with english versions?

Regards and thanks for this great software.

Usually citadel should retry; or you could force it to retry.

it also should try the secondary mx

do mails now get through?

if not, can you send the syslog with smtp client logging enabled?

Tue Feb 26 2013 15:12:39 EST from s3cr3to @ Uncensored Subject: question, citadel & dns: issue. mine or theirs?

Grettings.

I have this issue from some days ago (Thursday 21th I believe)

Some co-worker is trying to send one mail to "someone@idmexico.com.mx"

Note: We have two separated private dns servers (one is in debian the other in ubuntu) and our mail server with citadel/debian.

Citadel try but the mail remains stuck for some days until we got this message in our inbox:

A message you sent could not be delivered to some or all of its recipients.
The following addresses were undeliverable:

someone@idmexico.com.mx: DNS server returned answer with no data

I check their dns with:

$dig idmexico.com.mx MX

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> idmexico.com.mx MX
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63911
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;idmexico.com.mx.        IN    MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    MX    10 mail.idmexico.com.mx.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    NS    dns.diveo.net.mx.
idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    NS    dns2.diveo.net.mx.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mail.idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    A    200.57.40.39
mail.idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    A    200.57.32.102
dns2.diveo.net.mx.    33311    IN    A    148.243.65.17

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: XX.XX.XX.XX#53(XX.XX.XX.XX)
;;

Using telnet I sett that the 2nd server (..102) is down:

$ telnet mail.idmexico.com.mx 25
Trying 200.57.32.102... (this is down)
Trying 200.57.40.39...
Connected to mail.idmexico.com.mx.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mailserver02.idmexico.com.mx Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:59:10 -0600

When I check the Citadel's queue I see a lot of mails waiting (for this contact & server) for some days until I delete each mail.

Ok, my questions are:

1. If something wrong from our side? why Citadel just try one server and remains stuck trying to send to: 200.57.32.102 but never try with 200.57.40.39 (maybe sometimes Citadel use this because my user reports that yesterday one mail reach the mail contact)
2. Or the problem is from theirs?
3. There is something that I can do from my side to help Citadel to reach that mail server/contact?

Finally: Maybe is worth to say that I restarted both dns servers (each in different time and day) because some kernel udpates. I try to solve some other issues (hopefully not related)

My best regards.

 

Hello,

we´re trying to use a test installation to switch from exchange to another groupware server. As citadel is simple to install, backup, restore i like to use this.

After installation, switching to active directory authentification, installing bynari test version to windows, configuring outlook there are several problems with the folder names in a german outlook version. As e.g. the calendar folder in german outlook is called "Kalender" and the folder in citadel is called "Calendar" i have to remove the citadel folder in outlook, and remake it as a new folder named "Calendar" with the type "Kalender". After this procedure the synchronisation works like a charme. I have to rerun this procedure for the notes folder (german "Notiz") and the tasks (german "Aufgaben"). All of them work than. The contacts folder won´t as the contents of citadel does not include complete addresses but only a mail including the contact name as subject.

Should work citadel with german versions of outlook (2010) as normal as with english versions?

Regards and thanks for this great software.

Grettings.

I have this issue from some days ago (Thursday 21th I believe)

Some co-worker is trying to send one mail to "someone@idmexico.com.mx"

Note: We have two separated private dns servers (one is in debian the other in ubuntu) and our mail server with citadel/debian.

Citadel try but the mail remains stuck for some days until we got this message in our inbox:

A message you sent could not be delivered to some or all of its recipients.
The following addresses were undeliverable:

someone@idmexico.com.mx: DNS server returned answer with no data

I check their dns with:

$dig idmexico.com.mx MX

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> idmexico.com.mx MX
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63911
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;idmexico.com.mx.        IN    MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    MX    10 mail.idmexico.com.mx.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    NS    dns.diveo.net.mx.
idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    NS    dns2.diveo.net.mx.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mail.idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    A    200.57.40.39
mail.idmexico.com.mx.    76511    IN    A    200.57.32.102
dns2.diveo.net.mx.    33311    IN    A    148.243.65.17

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: XX.XX.XX.XX#53(XX.XX.XX.XX)
;;

Using telnet I sett that the 2nd server (..102) is down:

$ telnet mail.idmexico.com.mx 25
Trying 200.57.32.102... (this is down)
Trying 200.57.40.39...
Connected to mail.idmexico.com.mx.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mailserver02.idmexico.com.mx Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:59:10 -0600

When I check the Citadel's queue I see a lot of mails waiting (for this contact & server) for some days until I delete each mail.

Ok, my questions are:

1. If something wrong from our side? why Citadel just try one server and remains stuck trying to send to: 200.57.32.102 but never try with 200.57.40.39 (maybe sometimes Citadel use this because my user reports that yesterday one mail reach the mail contact)
2. Or the problem is from theirs?
3. There is something that I can do from my side to help Citadel to reach that mail server/contact?

Finally: Maybe is worth to say that I restarted both dns servers (each in different time and day) because some kernel udpates. I try to solve some other issues (hopefully not related)

My best regards.

port 504 is not intended to be talking to webbrowsers.

webcit by default binds port 2000 - check it out what it realy did like this;

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking

I took a look to /var/log/syslog but I didn't get anything clear and I couldn't know how to enable debug mode for SMTP! so I'll send to you privately my SMTP relay authentication thus you can test it practically.

Thanks in advance.

Wed Feb 20 2013 18:44:33 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

ups, sorry, didn't see that correctly my fault.

did you have a look into the /var/log/syslog of that machine? any error messages?

can you enable debug logging for smtp in the administration menu? and have a look at whats going on in this syslog?

Can you try to sniff mails being sent out to maybe see whats going on on the wire? ( http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server  )

I have a running Citadel server, however the webcit refuses to function. At least I'm assuming it's just the webcit, all of the relevant information is here.

 

I've got a raspberry pi running behind a router. Static IP, registered a domain to it. Running an apache2 server with mysql. Intended to be used for some fiddling more than expecting any real traffic over it, why I'm being a bit indulgent with these features available. The OS is the debian-based "wheezy". I'm pretty certain I have all the dependancies the Citadel needs to run. Installed the "suite" package and just as an added measure, went over the individual packages to make sure they're installed.

I had installed the debian package and as I read on the web, the thing is supposed to be broken in the sense that it requires the setup to be run again once you're done installing so that the information actually gets written proper.

I chose internal authentication and since the Apache server already occupies 80 and 443, I switched these to 8080 and 4343. I've appended the configuation file below there. Would like to just point out that the Webcit port being changed to 504 or 2000 yields the same result.

export WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG='-f'
export WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP='0.0.0.0'
export WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT='8504'
export WEBCIT_HTTPS_PORT='4343'
export WEBCIT_HTTP_PORT='8080'
export WEBCIT_LANG='en_GB'
export WEBCIT_LISTEN_IP='0.0.0.0'

Telneting to 2000 or 504 when the service was set to use either would give me this, so I'm assuming that the server itself runs.

200 raspberrypi Citadel server ready.

Opening the IP with the ports in a browser, however, will give me this:

200 raspberrypi Citadel server ready.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
570 Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 not found.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.

Going to the address of www.domainname.com/webcit/ will give me this.

Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

 

And this is about all of the information that I can think of that's relevant to the issue at hand here. If anyone has any other questions that'd help me resolve this, I'd be quite grateful. Been at this for a week now and I didn't really make any progress during that time.

Thanks!

Did anyone look at the output of ctdlmigrate I posted a while back? Do you want more information?

 

Thanks.

ups, sorry, didn't see that correctly my fault.

did you have a look into the /var/log/syslog of that machine? any error messages?

can you enable debug logging for smtp in the administration menu? and have a look at whats going on in this syslog?

Can you try to sniff mails being sent out to maybe see whats going on on the wire? ( http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server  )

Wed Feb 20 2013 18:27:52 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Wed Feb 20 2013 18:12:55 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

as long as you have a relay configured in citadel, its going to be used. (gmail in your screenshot)

Depending on your local sender as composed in webcit, google may reject relaying mails.

If you want to send directly (which may fail in many cases if you are behind a dialin connection), you need to remove this relay config.

OH dude... my screenshot doesn't show GMail at all!!!!

 

Maybe I couldn't get it!! I'm still stuck with this issue what I've to do for sending from Citadel (installed on LAN) to external e-mail account?

My screenshot shows clearly that I configured Citadel for sending external e-mails throguh mail.mydomain.com:25 which is once again NOT GMail... it's my own SMTP which works WITHOUT TLS/SSL autentication

 

 

Wed Feb 20 2013 18:12:55 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

as long as you have a relay configured in citadel, its going to be used. (gmail in your screenshot)

Depending on your local sender as composed in webcit, google may reject relaying mails.

If you want to send directly (which may fail in many cases if you are behind a dialin connection), you need to remove this relay config.

OH dude... my screenshot doesn't show GMail at all!!!!

 

Maybe I couldn't get it!! I'm still stuck with this issue what I've to do for sending from Citadel (installed on LAN) to external e-mail account?

My screenshot shows clearly that I configured Citadel for sending external e-mails throguh mail.mydomain.com:25 which is once again NOT GMail... it's my own SMTP which works WITHOUT TLS/SSL autentication

as long as you have a relay configured in citadel, its going to be used. (gmail in your screenshot)

Depending on your local sender as composed in webcit, google may reject relaying mails.

If you want to send directly (which may fail in many cases if you are behind a dialin connection), you need to remove this relay config.

 

Sat Feb 16 2013 13:49:30 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Sat Feb 16 2013 13:24:12 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Sat Feb 16 2013 13:07:05 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

Your local setup is right.

Sat Feb 16 2013 10:59:41 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

• Delivery Status Notification
• xxxxxxx@gmail.com: PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server.

Do I missed something?!

Yes, citadel doesn't talk to google the way they expect - google enforces encryption which citadel doesn't support on this path.

It doesn't seem as if google would accept smtps on port 465 anywhere (correct me if i'm wrong...)  in which way you could prepend an stunnel

You have to set up another local MTA like postfix and relay through it.

OK, forget about Google's SMTP. Why I always get "PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server." error message although the used SMTP supports PLAIN authentication?!

• Citadel Smarthost:
• user:password@mail.mydomain.com:25

PS

I tested the used SMTP by Thunderbird to be sure that it supports port 25

Your usecase looks like that:

Thunderbird -> [SMTP+ TLS/SSL + auth] -> citadel -> [SMTP without SSL & TLS] -> gmail

and... gmail doesn't accept plain smtp auth without ssl or TLS.

 

 

As I told you before, forget about GMail SMTP. I tried to send mails from Citadel to external e-mail account through my PLAIN authentication SMTP account as shown blow, but unfortunately it works with Thunderbird while not for Citadel.

Could you help me out to find a solution?

 

PS

I can send to you my SMTP password privately to test it by yourself

 

 

 

 

Sun Feb 17 2013 18:50:53 EST from dxiri @ Uncensored

also I just discovered this:

530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.

I get that when trying to connect from my browser to citadel using port 504

You shouldn't connect with your browser to port 504.

Webcit will connect to port 504.

You should connect to webcit on port 2000, 443, 8443 or whatever port you have

configured webcit to listen on.

 

Regards

Stefan

 

did you try the rpms in advance?

this sounds to me as if you were running a newer webcit against an older citserver.

 

In general, you should be able to use

http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:start#citadelrpmsforsusefedoramandriva

 

without having to compile stuff yourself (as easy install does for you)

also I just discovered this:

200 ip-10-203-73-22 Citadel server ready.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
570 Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 not found.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.

I get that when trying to connect from my browser to citadel using port 504

Hi guys, I am trying citadel. for this I have launched a Centos 6 instance on amazon AWS. I used easy install and currently I am getting the following error

Message from syslogd@ip-10-203-73-227 at Feb 17 23:27:50 ...

 

citserver[1044]: Modules: Citadel had trouble on starting up. We couldn't bind all ports you configured to be provided by citadel server.#012 This means, citadel won't be the service provider for a specific service you configured it to.#012#012If you don't want citadel to provide these services, turn them off in WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network".#012#012The failed ports and sockets are: TCP port *:504: (citadel-TCP) ;TCP port *:143: (IMAP) ;TCP port *:993: (IMAPS) ;TCP port *:2020: (ManageSieve) ;TCP port *:110: (POP3) ;TCP port *:995: (POP3S) ;TCP port *:25: (SMTP-MTA) ;TCP port *:465: (SMTPs-MTA) ;TCP port *:587: (SMTP-MSA) ;TCP port *:5222: (XMPP) #012#012If you want citadel to provide you with that functionality, check the output of "netstat -lnp" on linux Servers or "netstat -na" on *BSD and stop the program that binds these ports.#012 You should eventually remove their initscripts in /etc/init.d so that you won't get this trouble once more.#012 After

I am just using this instance to install citadel and nothing more, but I can't seem to connect either to the GUI or make citadel start without this error appearing

any help?

 

 

Sat Feb 16 2013 13:24:12 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Sat Feb 16 2013 13:07:05 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

Your local setup is right.

Sat Feb 16 2013 10:59:41 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

• Delivery Status Notification
• xxxxxxx@gmail.com: PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server.

Do I missed something?!

Yes, citadel doesn't talk to google the way they expect - google enforces encryption which citadel doesn't support on this path.

It doesn't seem as if google would accept smtps on port 465 anywhere (correct me if i'm wrong...)  in which way you could prepend an stunnel

You have to set up another local MTA like postfix and relay through it.

OK, forget about Google's SMTP. Why I always get "PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server." error message although the used SMTP supports PLAIN authentication?!

• Citadel Smarthost:
• user:password@mail.mydomain.com:25

PS

I tested the used SMTP by Thunderbird to be sure that it supports port 25

Your usecase looks like that:

Thunderbird -> [SMTP+ TLS/SSL + auth] -> citadel -> [SMTP without SSL & TLS] -> gmail

and... gmail doesn't accept plain smtp auth without ssl or TLS.

 

Sat Feb 16 2013 13:07:05 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

Your local setup is right.

Sat Feb 16 2013 10:59:41 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

• Delivery Status Notification
• xxxxxxx@gmail.com: PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server.

Do I missed something?!

Yes, citadel doesn't talk to google the way they expect - google enforces encryption which citadel doesn't support on this path.

It doesn't seem as if google would accept smtps on port 465 anywhere (correct me if i'm wrong...)  in which way you could prepend an stunnel

You have to set up another local MTA like postfix and relay through it.

OK, forget about Google's SMTP. Why I always get "PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server." error message although the used SMTP supports PLAIN authentication?!

• Citadel Smarthost:
• user:password@mail.mydomain.com:25

PS

I tested the used SMTP by Thunderbird to be sure that it supports port 25

Your local setup is right.

Sat Feb 16 2013 10:59:41 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

• Delivery Status Notification
• xxxxxxx@gmail.com: PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server.

Do I missed something?!

Yes, citadel doesn't talk to google the way they expect - google enforces encryption which citadel doesn't support on this path.

It doesn't seem as if google would accept smtps on port 465 anywhere (correct me if i'm wrong...)  in which way you could prepend an stunnel

You have to set up another local MTA like postfix and relay through it.

 

Sat Feb 16 2013 09:48:48 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

I think at this point we realize that the document which is called the "system administration manual" has a title which is a bit misleading, and we apologize for that. That document covers a use case where the system is built from source, installed manually, and configured using the command line client.

To configure a relay from webcit, you start on the Administration screen, then select "Domain names and Internet mail configuration." Look for the panel called "Smart hosts" and click "Add", and enter the address of your relay.

Actually I configured "Smart Hosts" as mentioned in "system administration manual" but I always get this error message whenever I send a message to external target (I already configured Citadel  for LAN):

• My local DNS:
• test.lan

• Citadel localhost:
• test.lan

• Citadel Smarthost:
• user:password@mail.mydomain.com:25

• Delivery Status Notification
• xxxxxxx@gmail.com: PLAIN authentication is not permitted by this server.

When I input GMail account as a smart host I didn't receive Citadel couldn't send the message from LAN to external target but it didn't give me error message!

• Citadel Smarthost:
• user:password@smtp.googlemail.com:465

Do I missed something?!

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 02:53:46 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Sun Feb 10 2013 16:52:23 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Send/Receive external e-mail

Hi guys,

How can I send/recive external messages (ex. Gmail) from citadel account?

PS
I read some page explains how to receive messages from external source (ex. Gmail) but I couldn't find any resource explains how to send to external e-mail.

the outbound sending is called relaying.

the current stable version knows one relay; so if you want to relay through several nodes, you'd have to install i.e. postfix as local relay, and configure remote mail accounts there.

git master has support for several relays, however its not stable right now. but if you want to test it, go ahead.

No problem I can deal with sigle relay, but I'm still don't know to configure it!

I read the menual about smart host (http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:system_administration_manual#basicsiteconfiguration) so I input my GMail account authentication as a relay but unfortunately it didn't work... Is there any tutorial guide me how to make it works or can you please give me more information.

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 13:00:47 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 12:32:58 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 02:53:46 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Sun Feb 10 2013 16:52:23 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Send/Receive external e-mail

Hi guys,

How can I send/recive external messages (ex. Gmail) from citadel account?

PS
I read some page explains how to receive messages from external source (ex. Gmail) but I couldn't find any resource explains how to send to external e-mail.

the outbound sending is called relaying.

the current stable version knows one relay; so if you want to relay through several nodes, you'd have to install i.e. postfix as local relay, and configure remote mail accounts there.

git master has support for several relays, however its not stable right now. but if you want to test it, go ahead.

No need to relay, Is there any ability to specify multi SMTP accounts for user account?

In this way the user can choose wither he/she wants to send the message throguh local SMTP for external one.

In summary:

I need exactly the same option (http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve) but for sending to external source.

if you would have read my mail, you wouldn't need to ask this twice.

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 12:32:58 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 02:53:46 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Sun Feb 10 2013 16:52:23 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Send/Receive external e-mail

Hi guys,

How can I send/recive external messages (ex. Gmail) from citadel account?

PS
I read some page explains how to receive messages from external source (ex. Gmail) but I couldn't find any resource explains how to send to external e-mail.

the outbound sending is called relaying.

the current stable version knows one relay; so if you want to relay through several nodes, you'd have to install i.e. postfix as local relay, and configure remote mail accounts there.

git master has support for several relays, however its not stable right now. but if you want to test it, go ahead.

No need to relay, Is there any ability to specify multi SMTP accounts for user account?

In this way the user can choose wither he/she wants to send the message throguh local SMTP for external one.

In summary:

I need exactly the same option (http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve) but for sending to external source.

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 02:53:46 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Send/Receive external e-mail

 

Sun Feb 10 2013 16:52:23 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Send/Receive external e-mail

Hi guys,

How can I send/recive external messages (ex. Gmail) from citadel account?

PS
I read some page explains how to receive messages from external source (ex. Gmail) but I couldn't find any resource explains how to send to external e-mail.

the outbound sending is called relaying.

the current stable version knows one relay; so if you want to relay through several nodes, you'd have to install i.e. postfix as local relay, and configure remote mail accounts there.

git master has support for several relays, however its not stable right now. but if you want to test it, go ahead.

No need to relay, Is there any ability to specify multi SMTP accounts for user account?

In this way the user can choose wither he/she wants to send the message throguh local SMTP for external one.

 

Sat Feb 09 2013 22:29:48 ESTfrom michaelmd101 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: federated social networks - and - federated events listings

sorry about creating a second login but forgot password and could not see a way to reset it! doh! :-) 

 

Mon Sep 24 2012 08:58:36 EDTfrom dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: federated social networks - and - federated events listings

the problem about at least diaspora was, that there was no intend to develop, document & stabilize the federation API.

I am not really familiar with Diaspora's federation protocol, but Friendica is able to talk to Diaspora (via Diaspora protocol) and also StatusNet and others via oStatus and its own Federation protocol (DFRN) works pretty well (and authenticates remote contacts with crypto key exchange - keeping out spam! - private messages are also encrypted for transport between servers without needing CA certificates or SSL)

 

 

Currently all of citservers federation protocols are implemented using event driven programming plus libev; so yes, beyound using C as implementation language, its scalable.

Though current federations require configuration & administrative privileges; For a social network alike federation that would have to change.

Plus some sort of intelligent protocol (push, not pull+polling as i.e. RSS is... ) would have to be established.

I would like to integrate a Citadel instance with the website here (including its Friendica instance) to

1. provide a way for users to upload photos from mobile phones (by connecting to Citadel directly with their email client and sending them to a special "photos" room/area, where it would post them to the user's wall (the "wall" of the user that authenticated via esmtp/imap/whatever - the user would set it up in their email client just like an email account with username/password required)

 

1. I'd like to give the users an easy way to download their network feed and read messages offline (pop3 and imap look like good candidates for this - everyone has an email client!) network id's in friendica (webbie's) and some other networks look like email addresses so that might also make this easier. I also intend to put a fairly short expiry time for private messages because I have limited space and the primary focus of the site is actually public events listings ad public forums and don't want the hard drive to fill up because of private stuff in user accounts that have linked their FB accounts or other private feeds that pull in lots of private posts. - but if there is a short expiry users need a way to download and keep their stuff - pop/imap via Citadel looks like a good way. - also looking at webdav integration and see support for that in Citadel too.

 

1. Citadel has a nice easy way to block internet email access on a per user basis.. which is good, because i don't really want to provide normal users with real email addresses (but could also be nice to allow it for certain trusted users/admins)
2. I would need to integrate authentication and PAM is not really an option (don't want to give real system accounts to every user!) .. and setting up a custom provider for LDAP or OpenId looks nightmareishly complex to set up - pretty much no readable docs, examples or code out there for setting up a custom auth provider for local use). I already have some authenticator/session code here in c for the custom auth that I've put into everything else here - patching the Citadel instance to use that is looking like a much easier way to integrate local web user sessions/auth and would be much more lightweight!).

 

1. Citadel also has a telnet BBS in it too! nice!
2. looking possible xmpp integration with the existing webchat - will explore this in Citadel too

1. EVENTS - looking at ways for people to set reminders, say they are attending, etc for events listings as well as personal calendars - and looking for good ways to federate public events listings with otgher sites (and make it easy for them to set up at their end) and include extra data like the city, tags, etc (the concept is kind of like an openly  shared gig-guide where events added on listings with appear on any other page/feed on connected sites - each site only needing to federate data for tags/cities they are actually interested in) - so far everything out there including Citadel and Friendica currently really only cater for personal calendars, and the kind of federation I'd like to set up for those public listings is more like a federated forum (but shown as events listings in order of event date, with ical export, etc)

1. Citadel code is readable! ..and doing more stuff here in c is appealing (for low-latency and keeping ram use under control)

the kind of deep integration for logins and sessions I want here for the website will probably require me to patch and recompile Citadel, but I am not afraid of doing this.

I'd prefer to put any new federation stuff for public events listings into some kind of plugin/addon/extension to make it easy for other sites to use if possible.

In general, the citadel federation mechanism could be a good start for such a protocol. It supports push & pull operations. Its transmitting more or less mime-messages back and forth.

Would love to see the details!

I should look at that before i get too deep into custom hacks!

 

 

Mon Feb 11 2013 05:12:24 EST from rajendran @ Uncensored Subject: Maild delivery to the online mail server

Hi,

I have installed Citadel recently in my office intranet replacing postfix.

We have a mail server in the internet from which we are fetching mails using fetchmail into the local (intranet) mail server which is now citadel.

Now there is one problem. Some of the users  exist only in the online mail serve, which are not there in the local (intranet) mail server and we are unable to send mails to them from local (intranet) mail server.

In postfix we could add selected users in a  in transport file, so that mails to them are not delivered locally but on the online mail server 

Is there any solution to this problem in Citadel ?

 

Thanks

Rajendran

Domain names and Internet mail configuration ->

(Domains as which users are allowed to masquerade)

Here you put yourcitadel.org

the server should be  i.e. office.yourcitadel.org.

then users may choose yourcitadel.org, but mails to external users are delivered through your configured relay.

 

 

Sun Feb 10 2013 06:07:07 AM EST from britesc @ Uncensored Subject: New Install - Cannot login

Hi,

I have just installed citadel-suite on ubuntu 12.10 with it pointing to my LDAP service on another server.

I cannot login in to wecit so have obviously done something wrong.

I chose option 2 for LDAP an entered cn=admin,cn=aserver,cn=tld for example

when I try and login with admin@aserver.tld I get the following message :

THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT USE NATIVE MODE AUTHENTICATION.

please could someone share their knowledge with me so I can first-time login to aide6 status.

Are you sure that the admin user, as configured in your ldap server, is "admin@aserver.tld" and not just "admin"?

Hi,

I have installed Citadel recently in my office intranet replacing postfix.

We have a mail server in the internet from which we are fetching mails using fetchmail into the local (intranet) mail server which is now citadel.

Now there is one problem. Some of the users  exist only in the online mail serve, which are not there in the local (intranet) mail server and we are unable to send mails to them from local (intranet) mail server.

In postfix we could add selected users in a  in transport file, so that mails to them are not delivered locally but on the online mail server 

Is there any solution to this problem in Citadel ?

 

Thanks

Rajendran

 

Sun Feb 10 2013 16:52:23 EST from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Send/Receive external e-mail

Hi guys,

How can I send/recive external messages (ex. Gmail) from citadel account?

PS
I read some page explains how to receive messages from external source (ex. Gmail) but I couldn't find any resource explains how to send to external e-mail.

the outbound sending is called relaying.

the current stable version knows one relay; so if you want to relay through several nodes, you'd have to install i.e. postfix as local relay, and configure remote mail accounts there.

git master has support for several relays, however its not stable right now. but if you want to test it, go ahead.

Hi guys,

How can I send/recive external messages (ex. Gmail) from citadel account?

PS
I read some page explains how to receive messages from external source (ex. Gmail) but I couldn't find any resource explains how to send to external e-mail.

Hi,

I have just installed citadel-suite on ubuntu 12.10 with it pointing to my LDAP service on another server.

I cannot login in to wecit so have obviously done something wrong.

I chose option 2 for LDAP an entered cn=admin,cn=aserver,cn=tld for example

when I try and login with admin@aserver.tld I get the following message :

THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT USE NATIVE MODE AUTHENTICATION.

please could someone share their knowledge with me so I can first-time login to aide6 status.

 

Thanks and kind regards,

 

jB 

sorry about creating a second login but forgot password and could not see a way to reset it! doh! :-) 

 

Mon Sep 24 2012 08:58:36 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: federated social networks - and - federated events listings

 

the problem about at least diaspora was, that there was no intend to develop, document & stabilize the federation API.

I am not really familiar with Diaspora's federation protocol, but Friendica is able to talk to Diaspora (via Diaspora protocol) and also StatusNet and others via oStatus and its own Federation protocol (DFRN) works pretty well (and authenticates remote contacts with crypto key exchange - keeping out spam! - private messages are also encrypted for transport between servers without needing CA certificates or SSL)

Currently all of citservers federation protocols are implemented using event driven programming plus libev; so yes, beyound using C as implementation language, its scalable.

Though current federations require configuration & administrative privileges; For a social network alike federation that would have to change.

Plus some sort of intelligent protocol (push, not pull+polling as i.e. RSS is... ) would have to be established.

I would like to integrate a Citadel instance with the website here (including its Friendica instance) to

1. provide a way for users to upload photos from mobile phones (by connecting to Citadel directly with their email client and sending them to a special "photos" room/area, where it would post them to the user's wall (the "wall" of the user that authenticated via esmtp/imap/whatever - the user would set it up in their email client just like an email account with username/password required)
2. I'd like to give the users an easy way to download their network feed and read messages offline (pop3 and imap look like good candidates for this - everyone has an email client!) network id's in friendica (webbie's) and some other networks look like email addresses so that might also make this easier. I also intend to put a fairly short expiry time for private messages because I have limited space and the primary focus of the site is actually public events listings ad public forums and don't want the hard drive to fill up because of private stuff in user accounts that have linked their FB accounts or other private feeds that pull in lots of private posts. - but if there is a short expiry users need a way to download and keep their stuff - pop/imap via Citadel looks like a good way. - also looking at webdav integration and see support for that in Citadel too.
3. Citadel has a nice easy way to block internet email access on a per user basis.. which is good, because i don't really want to provide normal users with real email addresses (but could also be nice to allow it for certain trusted users/admins)
4. I would need to integrate authentication and PAM is not really an option (don't want to give real system accounts to every user!) .. and setting up a custom provider for LDAP or OpenId looks nightmareishly complex to set up - pretty much no readable docs, examples or code out there for setting up a custom auth provider for local use). I already have some authenticator/session code here in c for the custom auth that I've put into everything else here - patching the Citadel instance to use that is looking like a much easier way to integrate local web user sessions/auth and would be much more lightweight!).
5. Citadel also has a telnet BBS in it too! nice!
6. looking possible xmpp integration with the existing webchat - will explore this in Citadel too
7. EVENTS - looking at ways for people to set reminders, say they are attending, etc for events listings as well as personal calendars - and looking for good ways to federate public events listings with otgher sites (and make it easy for them to set up at their end) and include extra data like the city, tags, etc (the concept is kind of like an openly  shared gig-guide where events added on listings with appear on any other page/feed on connected sites - each site only needing to federate data for tags/cities they are actually interested in) - so far everything out there including Citadel and Friendica currently really only cater for personal calendars, and the kind of federation I'd like to set up for those public listings is more like a federated forum (but shown as events listings in order of event date, with ical export, etc) 
8. Citadel code is readable! ..and doing more stuff here in c is appealing (for low-latency and keeping ram use under control)

the kind of deep integration for logins and sessions I want here for the website will probably require me to patch and recompile Citadel, but I am not afraid of doing this.

I'd prefer to put any new federation stuff for public events listings into some kind of plugin/addon/extension to make it easy for other sites to use if possible.

 

In general, the citadel federation mechanism could be a good start for such a protocol. It supports push & pull operations. Its transmitting more or less mime-messages back and forth.

Would love to see the details!

I should look at that before i get too deep into custom hacks!

 

I'm glad about that, then. Here's the output from ctdlmigrate:

Locating 'sendcommand' and checking connectivity to Citadel...
sendcommand: started (pid=2319) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
200 dredd Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
NOOP
200 ok
sendcommand: processing ended.

OK, this side is ready to go.  Now we must connect to the source system.

Enter the host name or IP address of the source system
(example: ctdl.foo.org)
--> 10.0.5.40

Enter the name of a user on 10.0.5.40 who has full access to Citadel files
(usually root)
--> root

Establishing an SSH connection to the source system...

root@10.0.5.40's password:


Testing a command over the connection...

Remote commands are executing successfully.


Locating the remote 'sendcommand' and Citadel installation...
sendcommand: started (pid=15882) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
 

Mon Feb 04 2013 17:37:54 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: MIgration to another machine

You're doing it the right way, but if there's an issue with the migration tool then we need to look at it closer.

 

I'm OK with dumb questions - I did. And just tried it again to be sure. :) No dice, though.

Wed Feb 06 2013 09:18:39 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II Subject: Re: MIgration to another machine

Dumb question, athos...did you stop and restart citserver after the migration completed?

 

1 2 3

Thanks.  I looked at that a couple of days ago.  I believe as simple as I thought the installation was, I may have messed it up.  I can't send or receive messages and everything looks as though I have it configured correctly.  I can vind one if the .AIDE commands.

The .js solution would probably need some back end support to save state though.

Thu Feb 07 2013 16:42:28 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

I know Microsoft products aren't a popular thing here, but Outlook has a feature where you can flag e-mails for "follow-up." What this does is create an item on the tasks or to-do list with the subject of the e-mail as the task title, and the body of the e-mail copied into the contents of the task.

Perhaps something similar could be done with Citadel? However, I think it would be more interesting to create the task with a hyperlink to the e-mail.
When the task item is pulled up, Webcit could auto-fetch the e-mail from the hyperlink to display as the task contents.
Follow-up Binder

hm, yes you could implement something like that probably with .js only..

I guess I was thinking of another button on the move menu more specifically.  The move menu that comes up in the context of an individual message being read.

given the current drag & drop operations, how would you copy instead?

Wed Feb 06 2013 23:12:00 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Suggestion box?

Where would someone post a feature request on Uncensored?  I still have not learned the codebase, so I am sheepish about posting to the dev list, but have some half baked ideas to share :-)

Not that this is the place, but I just thought of this tonight and thought it was a "killer feature"....

 Say you are going through your mail and you find some email that fits the bill for something you want to act on later.  With Citadel, you can currently -
  - Move the message to another room you created to remember things (and loose the email header).
  - Do something else to try to remember to take action on the email. 

I propose the ability to have a "copy" room that you can fill up with emails that you can have to act on later.  This "room" would be a spot where the copies from the Mail room end up (and since Citadel tracks exact copies, no space is wasted on disk) you could just perform a "copy" instead of move to another room op on the message you need to follow up on.

Stupid I know, but having used Citadel for a few years now, I find that sorting my mail inbox based on follow up items via Webcit is my biggest downfall currently.

If there is a way to accomplish this in the current incarnation, I am would love to hear about it.

Thanks,
Ax25 

 

Where would someone post a feature request on Uncensored?  I still have not learned the codebase, so I am sheepish about posting to the dev list, but have some half baked ideas to share :-)

Not that this is the place, but I just thought of this tonight and thought it was a "killer feature"....

 Say you are going through your mail and you find some email that fits the bill for something you want to act on later.  With Citadel, you can currently -
  - Move the message to another room you created to remember things (and loose the email header).
  - Do something else to try to remember to take action on the email. 

I propose the ability to have a "copy" room that you can fill up with emails that you can have to act on later.  This "room" would be a spot where the copies from the Mail room end up (and since Citadel tracks exact copies, no space is wasted on disk) you could just perform a "copy" instead of move to another room op on the message you need to follow up on.

Stupid I know, but having used Citadel for a few years now, I find that sorting my mail inbox based on follow up items via Webcit is my biggest downfall currently.

If there is a way to accomplish this in the current incarnation, I am would love to hear about it.

Thanks,
Ax25 

 

Wed Feb 06 2013 15:56:06 EST from mdabney918 @ Uncensored Subject: New Installation

I have tried several mail programs for Ubuntu 12.1.  I couldn't get any to work properly.  The last as iRedMail.  I got it up, but mail wouldn't send and receive between our Domino domain and the iRedMail. Someone suggested I try Citadel.  So here I am.  I did what I thought I should do.  When I go to  "https://mail.mydomain.com", I get the roundcube login box.  iRedMail is no longer there, so nothing happens.  Any ideas?

have a look at these faqs:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started

I have tried several mail programs for Ubuntu 12.1.  I couldn't get any to work properly.  The last as iRedMail.  I got it up, but mail wouldn't send and receive between our Domino domain and the iRedMail. Someone suggested I try Citadel.  So here I am.  I did what I thought I should do.  When I go to  "https://mail.mydomain.com", I get the roundcube login box.  iRedMail is no longer there, so nothing happens.  Any ideas?

Dumb question, athos...did you stop and restart citserver after the migration completed?

I'm trying to move my existing citadel installation to another machine with a different architecture. Per this article (http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:systemadmin:how_do_i_move_citadel_to_another_host?s[]=ctdlmigrate) I tried using ctdlmigrate after installing the base system on the new machine (and making the the existing machine matched). Ctdlmigrate says it ran successfully, but nothing has been transferred - not settings or data.

Is there any alternative or am I just doing it wrong? It seems pretty simple enough.

hm, ticking the checkbox next to that thing should do the trick... maybe something broke here during the event rework.

Citadel is working great on my raspberry pi and replaced my previous mercury server. My only remaining issue (and I had a few things I had to sort in configuration) is that messages do not get deleted when retrieved from pop3 servers. I have the keep message box unticked and it is reported as value 0, so I expected the emssages would be deleted. I am just wondering whether in the configuration I have done I may have changed a global setting somewhere. originally I was running it parallel with mercury until I made sure it was working correclty.

Grateful for any suggestions - Thanks

why don't you install the .debs? thats much easier in your case.

Hello guys In trying to run the Citadel Easy Install. I have tried multiple times after checking the logs to see the what was causing the errors and have managed to get past a few hick-ups, but now I keep getting this error :

 

/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 openldap/./citadel.schema /usr/local/citadel/./citadel.schema /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 openldap/./rfc2739.schema /usr/local/citadel/./rfc2739.schema /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 README.txt /usr/local/citadel/README.txt make[1]: msgfmt: Command not found make[1]: *** [../../locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES/citadel-setup.mo] Error 127 make: *** [install-locale] Error 2 Operating system: Linux Debian wheezy/sid ( 3.2.0-37-generic-pae i686)

how to bind citadel with openldap ???

how to bind citadel with openldap ???

 

hello,

thank you for your info.

 

I have root access to the ispconfig server.

 

i need a howto for this or can install the standard verision?

I set up Citadel, and I have Apache. I tried using the proxy to send a new hostname to port 2000 of the local machine, but it wasn't working.

 

As a dummy check, I tried to connect to it directly using my ip on port 2000. Should this not just connect on its own like that?

Hello i have a ispconfig server and i need citadel on this, is this possible?

 

Hey Everybody,

So I'm a bit new to Citadel, but I like what I see.  My main concern is using the webcal support to sync our contacts & calendars between the Blackberry's & Macbooks within our office.  Setup went great, login was easy, but I can't get iCal to connect.  First I get the message saying "you don't have a secure connection" and once I get through that it just tells me there are no CalDAV servers available.

Anybody have any ideas?

 

 

 

It worked for me earlier today, but not now.

 

Wed Jan 30 2013 12:30:44 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: WebCit 8.14

Wed Jan 30 2013 12:28:22 PM EST from richardb49 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: WebCit 8.14

Telnet to port 8504 from outside gives a blank screen like port 80 does. From the server, it says connected to mail.ribeninc.com. I would have thought it would have been something like webcit.

Try:

https://173.10.175.91:8504/

In a browser from outside.

8504 is used when webcit is behind an apache or nginx in debian. It usualy then only binds loopback, so its not reachable from outside.

 

Is there anything in in the syslog?

maybe restarting citserver & webcit can do the trick?

 

 

Wed Jan 30 2013 12:28:22 PM EST from richardb49 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: WebCit 8.14

Telnet to port 8504 from outside gives a blank screen like port 80 does. From the server, it says connected to mail.ribeninc.com. I would have thought it would have been something like webcit.

 

Try:

https://173.10.175.91:8504/

In a browser from outside.

Sorry, I meant 8504.

Wed Jan 30 2013 12:26:32 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: WebCit 8.14

173.10.175.91:8504      0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1168/webcit

- looks like 8504 to me, not 8405.

 

Telnet to port 8504 from outside gives a blank screen like port 80 does. From the server, it says connected to mail.ribeninc.com. I would have thought it would have been something like webcit.

 

173.10.175.91:8504      0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1168/webcit

- looks like 8504 to me, not 8405.

I updated from 7.83 to 8.14 on Debian Squeeze and now webcit does not work. The error message from Firefox is that the connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. Webcit is listening to 8405. Sorry about the annoying proportional type. I havn't figured out how to use fixed pitch on a post.


tcp        0      0 173.10.175.91:587       0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1178/citserver
tcp        0      0 173.10.175.91:110       0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1178/citserver
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:783           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1880/spamd.pid
tcp        0      0 173.10.175.91:143       0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1178/citserver
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:111             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      946/portmap  ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3391445Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:34:34 +05003391445@Uncensored

Comcast no longer listens to 25. But Citadel can. I must have disabled it on my server. Now emails are coming in. Thanks!

Wed Jan 30 2013 02:05:37 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Unable to receive emails

 

Tue Jan 29 2013 22:48:21 EST from Richard Benjamin @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Unable to receive emails

Comcast disabled use of 25. that is why 587.

25 is mandatory to receive mail. 587 can be used to relay mails from your MUA (thunderbird/....)

 

 

Tue Jan 29 2013 22:48:21 EST from Richard Benjamin @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Unable to receive emails

Comcast disabled use of 25. that is why 587.

25 is mandatory to receive mail. 587 can be used to relay mails from your MUA (thunderbird/....)

 

Tue Jan 29 2013 10:48:21 PM EST from Richard Benjamin @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Unable to receive emails

Comcast disabled use of 25. that is why 587.

My ISP back in the day when I hosted from home (dynamic IP with Qwest and Comcast)... I was blocked on port 25 and I had to call them to get the block removed.  You need to make sure you are not an open realy (i.e. you take email from anywhere and send it out - i.e. non-authenticated users).  You should also check out the docuementation here:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:i_want_to_be_a_whitehead

After you get all that, I would call to get the block removed.  In the short term, you might want to consider a "secondary mx" where mail can spool up and be delivered later (or alternatively some service that will relay that mail to port 587 on your server (as an add on service from somewhere else).  Sorry if I missed if you have already taken one of these steps as I am an infrequently on the support queue.

Ax25

Comcast disabled use of 25. that is why 587.

Yeah!  Reply-all is working again (via easy_install update).  Thanks guys (and any gals, I guss I don't know if there are any coding for Citadel)  Happy camper.  So far the easy_install install is ax25 approved :-)

Looks like it is being blocked (firewall or isp on port 25):

telnet mail.ribeninc.com 25

Trying 173.10.175.91...

telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

Is your server available on port 25?

My long working Citadel 7.83 on my debian email server stopped receiving emails from the outside on the 25th (outside defined as beyond the Comcast Business Gateway providing my five fixed IPs). emails from user to user work. I have been losing hair on this one and need help.

I have done a telnet to mail.ribeninc.com 587 to make sure that the port is active from the outside. I get "220 mail.ribeninc.com ESMTP Citadel server ready". I assume this means Citadel is listening at least.

I can send emails out so it appears SMTP over SSL port465 is working. IMAP on 143 appears to be working as Mozilla Thunderbird logs in and checks and finds no emails.

The only thing I had done was on the 27th set up a new floor and room, but the user accounts should have had other emails before that.

I have restarted Citadel and rebooted the server with no improvements.

What can i check. What info would help?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Crashed again :(

┌(tafb)─(0)─(10:20 PM Mon Jan 28)
└─(/etc/mail/aliases.d)─(5 files, 52Kb)─> tail -n 45 ~/screenlog.0
citserver[28074]: Drafts already exists.
citserver[28074]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Calendar, type=4, view=3)
citserver[28074]: Calendar already exists.
citserver[28074]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Tasks, type=4, view=4)
citserver[28074]: Tasks already exists.
citserver[28074]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Notes, type=4, view=5)
citserver[28074]: Notes already exists.
citserver[28074]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Contacts, type=4, view=2)
citserver[28074]: Contacts already exists.
citserver[28074]: CC[681]<Lobby> 0 new of 0 total messages
citserver[28074]: POP3 authenticated jamie
citserver[28074]: POP3: STAT
citserver[28074]: POP3: UIDL
citserver[28074]: POP3: LIST
citserver[28074]: New client socket 39
citserver[28074]: Session (SMTP-MTA) started from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
citserve

 

-Jamie M.

 

Fri Jan 25 2013 03:41:36 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: pop from external server gives some "weird" mail

hm, interesting.

what you see here is that it for some reason didn't read al headers as headers, but mixed it with the mail body.

So then it can't parse the parts of the message body (html and the pdf attachment)

Is there a chance you can get a tcpdump of such a collector run?

I was reading how to use tcpdump ( http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff )

Strange,  I do a housekeeping in the "extenal mailbox" to start fresh, but before have a chance to use tcpdump today a new mail arrives (from the same contact) correctly.

I'll keep and eye on this for some days.

Regards

citadel:x:1001:1001:Citadel service account:/usr/local/citadel:/usr/local/citadel/citadel

- Using easy_install it installed to /usr/local/citadel (and the citadel user home is there as well).

If you have the ability to run a VM, you might want to set up a fresh one and just try easy_install to see what would happen on a VM environment that you don't care about first.  That will hopefully give you a reference to build from source.

 

Mon Jan 28 2013 03:21:51 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Wiki wiki bidi bidi bidi

 

Sun Jan 27 2013 15:19:59 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Wiki wiki bidi bidi bidi

Is there a document that has the wiki syntax somewhere?  I tried, but am not smart enought to find it :-)

its simple: html.

Ah, thanks!

Just crashed again :(

 

┌(tafb)─(0)─(11:44 PM Sun Jan 27)
└─(/etc/mail/aliases.d)─(5 files, 52Kb)─> tail -n 45 ~/screenlog.0
citserver[9846]: Closing socket 37
citserver[9846]: Context: [5732]SRV[POP3] Session ended.
citserver[9846]: [4932][jamie(10)] NOOP
citserver[9846]: [4932][jamie(10)] NOOP
citserver[9846]: New client socket 37
citserver[9846]: Session (POP3) started from 192.168.1.97 (192.168.1.97).
citserver[9846]: POP3: CAPA
citserver[9846]: POP3: USER jamie
citserver[9846]: POP3: PASS...
citserver[9846]: Context: <jamie> logged in
citserver[9846]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Mail, type=4, view=1)
citserver[9846]: Mail already exists.
citserver[9846]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Sent Items, type=4, view=1)
citserver[9846]: Sent Items already exists.
citserver[9846]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Trash, type=4, view=1)
citserver[9846]: Trash already exists.
citserver[9846]: CtdlCreateRoom(name=Drafts, type=4, view=1)
citserver[9846 ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3389794Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:21:51 +05003389794@Uncensored

 

Sun Jan 27 2013 15:19:59 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Wiki wiki bidi bidi bidi

Is there a document that has the wiki syntax somewhere?  I tried, but am not smart enought to find it :-)

its simple: html.

Aha, I think the citadel user was not set up.  You might try to make the citadel user manually and re-try the install.  Are you doing easy install?

Yes, sendmail is shut down.  Here are the active listeners:

# netstat -an | head -12
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State      
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:113             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:37              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     
tcp        0      0 10.0.2.15:22            10.0.2.2:41242          ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 10.0.2.15:22            10.0.2.2:41652          ESTABLISHED
tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN     
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:512             0.0.0.0:*                          
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:37              0.0.0.0:*                          
Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established)
Proto RefCnt Flags       Type       State         I-Node   Path
...


-Ben

Are you sure the Sendmail is shut down?  Slack will probably be running Sendmail on port 25 (and block).

Is there a document that has the wiki syntax somewhere?  I tried, but am not smart enought to find it :-)
 

Good day,

I installed citadel from source on slackware 14 x86_64.  The install seemed to work fine, but the setup program fails with the following error.  "Setup could not connect to a running Citadel server.: No such file or directory /home/citadel/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket"

I verified that the directory /home/citadel/local/citadel/ exists but the file citadel-admin.socket does not exist.  I ran setup in strace, but I did not see setup attempt to execute any other programs.  Below are links to the install and setup logs.

http://terrorpin.net/citadel/libcitadel-install.txt

http://terrorpin.net/citadel/citadel-install.txt

http://terrorpin.net/citadel/citadel-setup.txt

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you,

-Ben

 

 

Sat Jan 19 2013 11:01:37 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citadel crashing problem

Please use the following modified easy install script to get a citserver which can produce backtraces; run it like that:

rm -f /usr/local/citadel/citadel-easyinstall.sum

export BACKTRACE=yes; ./install

once it happenes again, it should tell us closer what exact location was the origin of the panic.

and, we may observe whether its always the same place or multiple places.

Ok, followed your directions, but the screen output looks identical. It just crashed again, here is the output:

 

┌(tafb)─(0)─(06:37 PM Fri Jan 25)
└─(/var/log)─(59 files, 18Mb)─> tail -n 45 ~/screenlog.0
citserver[23500]: Performing POP3 cleanup hook
citserver[23500]: Context: [9381]SRV[POP3] Session ended.
citserver[23500]: New client socket 37
citserver[23500]: Session (POP3) started from server-178.211.53.15.as42926.net (178.211.53.15).
citserver[23500]: POP3: user boby@99
citserver[23500]: POP3: PASS...
citserver[23500]: Context: CtdlTryPassword: no user selected
citserver[23500]: POP3 client disconnected: ending session.
citserver[23500]: Performing POP3 cleanup hook
citserver[23500]: Context: [9382]SRV[POP3] Session ended.
citserver[23500]: New client socket 37
citserver[23500]: Session (POP3) started from server-178.211.53.15.as42926.net (178.211.53.15).
citserver[23500]: Network full processing in 1221 seconds.
citserver[23500]: SMTPCQ: processing outbound queue
citserver[23500]: SMTPCQ: queue run completed; 1 me

Let me know if you have any ideas, thanks!

 

-Jamie M.

hm, interesting.

what you see here is that it for some reason didn't read al headers as headers, but mixed it with the mail body.

So then it can't parse the parts of the message body (html and the pdf attachment)

Is there a chance you can get a tcpdump of such a collector run?

We have an old account with @prodigy.net.mx

I create a citadel account for remote retrieval / POP3 some months ago without issues. The remote retrieval have and interval of 5 minutes.

I notice that after upgrade to Citadel 8.14, some mails arrives with a strange format that I can't read inside webcit(firefox) and thunderbird:

Info with the strange format.

Header:

Return-Path: <invoice@wal-mart.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:47:05 -0700
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <51022A69-00017A0F@our.citadel.server.com>
From: "" <@our.citadel.server.com>

Body-- without some info --

x-sender="postmaster@PPES-Mail-N2.wal-mart.com"; x-conformance=spf_only
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result:
AhEBALMkAlGhqMoRnGdsb2JhbABNvmMOAQEBAQEcCYR+00GsL4NK
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,535,1355119200";
d="xml'?pdf'?scan'208,217";a="515505862"
Received: from ppes-mail-n2.wal-mart.com ([161.168.202.17])
by nlpiport08.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:26:42 -0600
Received: from pps.filterd (PPES-Mail-N2 [127.0.0.1])
by PPES-Mail-N2.wal-mart.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id r0P6Qe9P012209 for
<external.account@prodigy.net.mx>; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:26:42 -0600
Received: from honts3552.homeoffice.wal-mart.com ([172.26.41.74])
by PPES-Mail-N2.wal-mart.com with ESMTP id 1a3jq3gm4d-12 for
<external.account@prodigy.net.mx>; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:26:42 -0600
Received: from MXNTS1016 ([172.26.45.89]) by HONTS3552.homeoffice.Wal-Mart.com
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 25 

If I check directly the mail inside the external mailbox I can see the mail in correctly the forwarded to my own mailbox in citadel and the mail arrives correctly.

Return-Path: external.account@prodigy.net.mx
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:03:47 -0700
Subject: =?utf-8?b?UnY6RmFjdHVyYSBFbGVjdHLDs25pY2EuIE5XTTk3MDkyNDRXNCAtIEFBQQ==?=	=?utf-8?b?VjEyNTAzMzk5?=
Envelope-To: <my own account>
Message-ID: <MHxxxB$12xxxxxx126xxxxC06CxxxD267xx8FFCC@prodigy.net.mx>
From: external.account@prodigy.net.mx

All the mail from this contact (invoices) show the exactly problem; today I got another from different sender but I delete the mail by mistake.

Any help is appreciated. Regards

its quoted printeable encoding / URL encoding.

So, you need to escape '+' to be %2B

Wed Jan 23 2013 15:59:27 EST from jehoover @ Uncensored Subject: Citadel 8 issue smarthost

TG,

 

I believe that the issue with Smarthost stems from the base64 encoding which removes chars such as + and replaces it with " "if my guess is right/

This previously worked.   our smarthost username is name+host because it is shared hosting, and it does not allow name" "host.

As a temporary work around, I set up a small postfix server (localhost port 36) to relay mail to my smart relay..  (just a little painful).

 

 

Best regards

 

Mr Hoover.

 

TG,

 

I believe that the issue with Smarthost stems from the base64 encoding which removes chars such as + and replaces it with " "if my guess is right/

This previously worked.   our smarthost username is name+host because it is shared hosting, and it does not allow name" "host.

As a temporary work around, I set up a small postfix server (localhost port 36) to relay mail to my smart relay..  (just a little painful).

 

 

Best regards

 

Mr Hoover.

In order to assist with teh DB related shutdowns that I and one other have been noting, I did rebuild citadel using the install script previously provided. Last night, I had another event. The pertinent log information follows:

Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: Network full processing in 656 seconds.
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: CC[0]network: processing inbound queue
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: CC[0]network: processing 206 bytes from /usr/local/citadel/network/spoolin//uncnsrd.50fdcb26712ca00a
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: CC[0]network_process_buffer() processing 206 bytes
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: DB: seek: 438375: (0 * 0) + 438375: Illegal seek
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: DB: seek: 438375: (0 * 0) + 438375: Illegal seek
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: bdb(): txn_commit: Illegal seek
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=505 gid=505 euid=505 egid=505
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: /usr/local/citadel/citserver(cit_backtrace+0x1f) [0x42842f]
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: /usr/local/citadel/citserver(cdb_abort+0x4c) [0x42f194]
Jan 21 18:12:35 bbs citserver[5036]: ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3387526Tue, 22 Jan 2013 05:17:37 +05003387526@Uncensored

 

Mon Jan 21 2013 18:55:58 EST from pmi @ Uncensored Subject: Installation Questions

I am evaluating Citadel for a small geographically separate group to help manage a group calendar, tasks, files, and notes. I am installing on a Debian testing machine from the Debian repositories.

My questions:

1. Do I have to setup Citadel with an email server? There are only three or four members, and we all have our own email accounts, and we won't be switching to Citadel email.

2. What we need is an online presence with an address book, calendar, task list, document sharing, and maybe a forum. Is Citadel a good fit for this scaled down groupware functionality?

Thanks,

Mark

you can set it up not to bind port 25 etc.

but for i.e. sending calendar invitations you need outbound mails.

Usually imap with kolab1 mode is the best way to connect a fat client .

If you need to share calendars / addressbooks between several persons, use public rooms.

 

 

Tue Jan 22 2013 04:03:29 EST from horschd @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit syslog trouble

 

Fri Jan 18 2013 06:15:54 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit syslog trouble

since you already started digging into this, why not finish the work and propose a patch?

I have absolutely no experience in C/C++ programing and I would mess up the webcit code. Nevertheless I can contribute some proposals. From the point of view of an system admin large syslog messages hamper the control of the server, but develpers need detailed information. We should discuss which log levels should be implemented and which messages should be assigned to these levels. I think the huge amount of syslog messages in the current webcit code should be managed, for example like in the citadel code.

Best regards

horschd

Glad you like my (relative new) aproach.

Rule of thumb: as long as it compiles, you did nothing wrong ;-)

you could add

#define Xsyslog(...) syslog(...)

to webcit.h, change every line you find to it, and set the loglevel to the appropriate define from syslog.h with the loglevel you think is appropriate.

Test it out whether its silent enough for you...

propose the patch.

then I will change the Xsyslog to hide LOG_DEBUG messages when webcit is not started with -x. I guess an online version to change it interactively like in citadel is a bit to much for this.

 

 

Fri Jan 18 2013 06:15:54 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit syslog trouble

since you already started digging into this, why not finish the work and propose a patch?

I have absolutely no experience in C/C++ programing and I would mess up the webcit code. Nevertheless I can contribute some proposals. From the point of view of an system admin large syslog messages hamper the control of the server, but develpers need detailed information. We should discuss which log levels should be implemented and which messages should be assigned to these levels. I think the huge amount of syslog messages in the current webcit code should be managed, for example like in the citadel code.

Best regards

horschd

I am evaluating Citadel for a small geographically separate group to help manage a group calendar, tasks, files, and notes. I am installing on a Debian testing machine from the Debian repositories.

My questions:

1. Do I have to setup Citadel with an email server? There are only three or four members, and we all have our own email accounts, and we won't be switching to Citadel email.

2. What we need is an online presence with an address book, calendar, task list, document sharing, and maybe a forum. Is Citadel a good fit for this scaled down groupware functionality?

Thanks,

Mark

Hi Citadel users,

I'm setting up an Ubuntu box with a Citadel server for email for a small team. I noticed that when I sent and received mail, the From column gave my username, lowercaps. Accordingly, the From: line looked like this:

 

From: "topher" <topher@mydomain.org>

 

 

I found that if I go in Webcit -> Settings -> Network and uncheck the option "Correct forged From: lines during authenticated SMTP", my mail client will be allowed to include my full name on the From: line, more like this:

From: "Topher Hunt" <topher@mydomain.org>

This isn't a bad endpoint, and I guess allowing forgery is only a concern if I'm worried about some employees getting hacky and faking other employees' names to send an email. But for thoroughness' sake, I'd love to know whether it's possible to customize what gets put in the From: line, without allowing the mail client to provide whatever From: it wants.

Is there any way to get From: lines to pull the Display Name from the Citadel internal directory?

Much thanks in advance,
 - Topher Hunt

 

I'm not sure what's happened to the easy-install procedure, but with 8.16, it's replaced my /etc/init.d/citadel rc script twice.

Luckily, I have backups, and can restore, but the setup process usually sees that it's there and asks if you want to leave it alone (the Webcit install/setup process still does). The setup process for Citadel, though, seems to have stopped asking and plows right on through, leaving me to have to restore the file each time I perform an install/upgrade.

Thunderbird probably keeps local data.

So maybe the flags it wasn't able to copy persist for you.

But if you use a fresh install of thunderbird on another account, there will be no 'answered' flag at all.

Sun Jan 20 2013 16:43:23 EST from derwisch @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Problems with Thunderbird IMAP

Thank's a lot for the quick answer!

??? But how does that explain that all my Messages marked as ANSWERED are copied via IMAPCopy,

so they are still marked as ANSWERED in the destination account on Citadel????

Normally the mark ANSWERED will not get lost, only sometimes this happens after restart of Thunderbird.

It's the same with copying files - it works often, but not every time - there must exist one problem

in the communication between Thunderbird and Citadel, which is named by Thunderbird as NS_ERROR_FAILURE...

But what does that mean?

 

Thanks a lot for answers...

 

Martin

 

Thank's a lot for the quick answer!

??? But how does that explain that all my Messages marked as ANSWERED are copied via IMAPCopy,

so they are still marked as ANSWERED in the destination account on Citadel????

Normally the mark ANSWERED will not get lost, only sometimes this happens after restart of Thunderbird.

It's the same with copying files - it works often, but not every time - there must exist one problem

in the communication between Thunderbird and Citadel, which is named by Thunderbird as NS_ERROR_FAILURE...

But what does that mean?

 

Thanks a lot for answers...

 

Martin

citadel only supports SEEN flags.

Hi,

I've installed Citadel 8.14 on Centos 6.3 (x86_64).

There were no problems during Installation and in test phase, but now
I see some problems by using IMAP (about 30 users).

In Thunderbird the copying process from one mail account to Citadel cancels somewhere,
and sometimes, flags (as SEEN, ANSWERED, etc...) are not transfered to Citadel. They get lost.
In both cases console of Thunderbird says the Error Statement NS_ERROR_FAILURE.
Unfortunately I cannot see any Error Message in this context in the Citadel-Logs (IMAP-Log is on).

Has someone any experience how I have to configurate Citadel to solve my problems with thunderbird?

Kind regards

Martin

Yes,

a tcpdump would probably alow to find out more.

You need to disalow tls in the fetchmail rc so it is usefull.

changing passwords is also advised.

Sat Jan 19 2013 23:12:13 EST from marteswigg @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Fetchmail can no longer fetch mail FROM Citadel via IMAP

I just realized thta I am working off of RHEL which is a bit dated when it comes to something like fetchmail being updated, etc...

So I upgraded to fetchmail-6.3.24 and it now is giving me a somewhate better error response.

 

(I.E. it is at least completing the loop and not just hanging, and then indicating a socket error.)

fetchmail: Incorrect FETCH response: * 1 FETCH (.

fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while fetching

Sat Jan 19 2013 10:47:33 PM EST from marteswigg @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Fetchmail can no longer fetch mail FROM Citadel via IMAP

Greetings all.

On 06/21/2012 04:32 AM, Citadel Support wrote:

Re: Fetchmail can no longer fetch mail FROM Citadel via IMAP

I have been running a 7.62 version of citadel since that version was presented with no issue with fetchmail functionality.

However, upon migration of the system to a VM on my virtualization box, and subsequent upgrade to version 8, my ability to train using fetchmail to pull IMAP folders for spam is not working.

As the previous responder, back in February and then June of last year indicated, I am unable to utilize fetchmail for IMAP on citadel verison 8.

The session just hangs after indicating that the fetch completed.

(This is also a legacy server running a single-core P4 on 32-bit RHEL6 variant)

Here is a session excerpt:

fetchmail -v --folder Spam
fetchmail: 6.3.17 querying 192.168.5.5 (protocol IMAP) at Sat 19 Jan 2013 10:22:09 PM EST: poll started
Trying to connect to 192.168.5.5/143...connected.
fetchmail: IMAP<  * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 NAMESPACE ID AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN UIDPLUS STARTTLS ACL METAD

 

 

 

Sat Jan 19 2013 19:55:20 EST from jevon @ Uncensored Subject: Cannot receive abuse@domain emails

Hi,

I'm having a lot of trouble trying to configure my local Citadel server with an abuse@domain address. Just like all my other addresses@domain, I've created a new user named "abuse" with permission to send mail, and configured mail filters to forward all emails to my@domain. This works perfectly for every other address that I have - I can receive emails, reply to emails, and send emails as that user (using POP3 from Gmail, and Webcit to configure).

However, emails sent to abuse@domain seem to randomly choose one of three options:

1. The message will move into the "Aide" room and I can't filter it or get e-mail notifications. The sender will not get any notification. This can happen if I send a new email from something@gmail to abuse@domain.

2. The message will bounce back with the error "Higher access is required to post in this room". This can happen if I reply from something@gmail to abuse@domain, or I send a message to abuse@domain internally within Webcit from my@domain.

3. The message will simply disappear, with no errors or replies or way to track its location.

I've tried modifying the "abuse" user, and also deleting/creating a new "abuse" user. The Aide room configuration seems to be identical to Inbox configurations for all other users.

I followed the configuration guide at http://library.linode.com/email/citadel/ubuntu-10.04-lucid and it generally works perfectly. But this has me completely lost. Is it actually possible to use Citadel for abuse@domain messages? Is "abuse" a magical keyword that has special rules?

Thanks

Jevon

since abuse@ is one of the mandatory addresses, its handled by the mail.aliases file, and routed into your aide room.

It may be that this is not handled under all local sending conditions, but the required remote senders deliver to the aide room.

If you want to have them put into your own users, remove the line from the aliases file.

I just realized thta I am working off of RHEL which is a bit dated when it comes to something like fetchmail being updated, etc...

So I upgraded to fetchmail-6.3.24 and it now is giving me a somewhate better error response.

 

(I.E. it is at least completing the loop and not just hanging, and then indicating a socket error.)

fetchmail: Incorrect FETCH response: * 1 FETCH (.

fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while fetching

Sat Jan 19 2013 10:47:33 PM EST from marteswigg @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Fetchmail can no longer fetch mail FROM Citadel via IMAP

Greetings all.

On 06/21/2012 04:32 AM, Citadel Support wrote:

Re: Fetchmail can no longer fetch mail FROM Citadel via IMAP

I have been running a 7.62 version of citadel since that version was presented with no issue with fetchmail functionality.

However, upon migration of the system to a VM on my virtualization box, and subsequent upgrade to version 8, my ability to train using fetchmail to pull IMAP folders for spam is not working.

As the previous responder, back in February and then June of last year indicated, I am unable to utilize fetchmail for IMAP on citadel verison 8.

The session just hangs after indicating that the fetch completed.

(This is also a legacy server running a single-core P4 on 32-bit RHEL6 variant)

Here is a session excerpt:

fetchmail -v --folder Spam
fetchmail: 6.3.17 querying 192.168.5.5 (protocol IMAP) at Sat 19 Jan 2013 10:22:09 PM EST: poll started
Trying to connect to 192.168.5.5/143...connected.
fetchmail: IMAP<  * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 NAMESPACE ID AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN UIDPLUS STARTTLS ACL METAD

 

Greetings all.

On 06/21/2012 04:32 AM, Citadel Support wrote:

Re: Fetchmail can no longer fetch mail FROM Citadel via IMAP

I have been running a 7.62 version of citadel since that version was presented with no issue with fetchmail functionality.

However, upon migration of the system to a VM on my virtualization box, and subsequent upgrade to version 8, my ability to train using fetchmail to pull IMAP folders for spam is not working.

As the previous responder, back in February and then June of last year indicated, I am unable to utilize fetchmail for IMAP on citadel verison 8.

The session just hangs after indicating that the fetch completed.

(This is also a legacy server running a single-core P4 on 32-bit RHEL6 variant)

Here is a session excerpt:

fetchmail -v --folder Spam
fetchmail: 6.3.17 querying 192.168.5.5 (protocol IMAP) at Sat 19 Jan 2013 10:22:09 PM EST: poll started
Trying to connect to 192.168.5.5/143...connected.
fetchmail: IMAP<  * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 NAMESPACE ID AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN UIDPLUS STARTTLS ACL METAD ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3385800Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:55:20 +05003385800@Uncensored

Hi,

I'm having a lot of trouble trying to configure my local Citadel server with an abuse@domain address. Just like all my other addresses@domain, I've created a new user named "abuse" with permission to send mail, and configured mail filters to forward all emails to my@domain. This works perfectly for every other address that I have - I can receive emails, reply to emails, and send emails as that user (using POP3 from Gmail, and Webcit to configure).

However, emails sent to abuse@domain seem to randomly choose one of three options:

1. The message will move into the "Aide" room and I can't filter it or get e-mail notifications. The sender will not get any notification. This can happen if I send a new email from something@gmail to abuse@domain.

2. The message will bounce back with the error "Higher access is required to post in this room". This can happen if I reply from something@gmail to abuse@domain, or I send a message to abuse@domain internally within Webcit from my@domain.

3. The message will simply disappear, with no errors or replies or way to track its location.

I've tried modifying the "abuse" user, and also deleting/creating a new "abuse" user. The Aide room configuration seems to be identical to Inbox configurations for all other users.

I followed the configuration guide at http://library.linode.com/email/citadel/ubuntu-10.04-lucid and it generally works perfectly. But this has me completely lost. Is it actually possible to use Citadel for abuse@domain messages? Is "abuse" a magical keyword that has special rules?

Thanks

Jevon

Please use the following modified easy install script to get a citserver which can produce backtraces; run it like that:

rm -f /usr/local/citadel/citadel-easyinstall.sum

export BACKTRACE=yes; ./install

 

once it happenes again, it should tell us closer what exact location was the origin of the panic.

and, we may observe whether its always the same place or multiple places.

 

 

Fri Jan 18 2013 02:25:59 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citadel crashing problem

 It might be a panic, but its not a crash.

do you have any further lines about that smtp session which is closing just before that occurs?

does it always happen in conjunction with an smtp session?

That was the only time I was able to log it when it panics, because I was running it in a console session.

Here is all I was able to capture:

citserver[14393]: CC[29333]Changed to <jamie>
citserver[14393]: Directory key is <jamie@tafb>
citserver[14393]: CC[29334]Changed to <jamie>
citserver[14393]: SMTP server: DATA
citserver[14393]: SMTP server: DATA
citserver[14393]: Converting message...
citserver[14393]: Converted to <bounce@vsobr.com> (Yamaha R6 Forum: YZF-R6 Forums)
citserver[14393]: Directory key is <me@mydomain.com>
citserver[14393]: CC[29332]me@mydomain.com is being forwarded to jamie @ tafb
citserver[14393]: Converting message...
citserver[14393]: Converted to <bounce@vsobr.com> (Yamaha R6 Forum: YZF-R6 Forums)
citserver[14393]: Directory key is <me@mydomain.com>
BDB2051 51 lockers
citserver[14393]: CC[29333]me@mydomain.com is being forwarded to jamie @ tafb
citserver[14393]: SMTP server: QUIT
citserver[14393]: Performing SMTP cleanup hook
citserver[14393]: Closing socket 41
citserver[14393]: Context: [29331]S

I get messages from R6 forum all day every day, so I don't think it would be that specific message causing the panic :(

 

-Jamie M.

I reported a similar issue, back when I was running DP2 in an Amazon EC2 instance, and the issue continues in a VirtualBox VM. I've had it happen 4 times this week, 3 times in just over 24 hours:

Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: Network full processing in 168 seconds.
Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: CC[0]network: processing inbound queue
Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: CC[0]network: processing 404 bytes from /usr
/local/citadel/network/spoolin//uncnsrd.50f36c0b36de30c0
Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: CC[0]network_process_buffer() processing 404
 bytes
Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: DB: seek: 765079: (0 * 0) + 765079: Illegal seek
Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: DB: seek: 765079: (0 * 0) + 765079: Illegal seek
Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: bdb(): txn_commit: Illegal seek
Jan 13 21:24:08 bbs citserver[874]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=505 gid=505 euid=505 egid=505

Jan 14 01:20:41 bbs citserver[21362]: CC[0]network: processing inbound queue
Jan 14 01:20:41 bbs citserver[21362]: CC[0]network: processing 491 bytes from /u
sr/local/citadel/network/spoolin//uncnsrd.50f3a37c4974a379
Jan 14 01:20:41 bbs citserver[21362]: CC[0]network_process_buffer() processing 4
91 bytes
Jan 14 01:20:41 bbs citserver[21362]: DB: write: 0x19f76d8, 4616: Bad file descriptor
Jan 14 01:20:41 bbs citserver[21362]: DB: write: 0x19f76d8, 4616: Bad file descriptor
Jan 14 01:20:41 bbs citserver[21362]: bdb(): txn_commit: Bad file descriptor
Jan 14 01:20:41 bbs citserver[21362]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=505 gid=505 euid=505 egid=505

Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: Network full processing in 534 seconds.
Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: CC[0]network: processing inbound queue
Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: CC[0]network: processing 1774 bytes from /
usr/local/citadel/network/spoolin//uncnsrd.50f4dcb8401e8b4a
Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: CC[0]network_process_buffer() processing 1
774 bytes
Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: DB: write: 0xcdd6d8, 4616: Bad file descriptor
Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: DB: write: 0xcdd6d8, 4616: Bad file descriptor
Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: bdb(): txn_commit: Bad file descriptor
Jan 14 23:37:09 bbs citserver[26806]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=505 gid=505 euid=505 egid=505

Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: Network full processing in 473 seconds.
Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: CC[0]network: processing inbound queue
Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: CC[0]network: processing 283 bytes from /usr
/local/citadel/network/spoolin//uncnsrd.50f82eee59cf8955
Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: CC[0]network_process_buffer() processing 283
 bytes
Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: DB: write: 0x1c4c6d8, 4616: Bad file descrip
tor
Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: DB: write: 0x1c4c6d8, 4616: Bad file descriptor
Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: bdb(): txn_commit: Bad file descriptor
Jan 17 12:04:43 bbs citserver[884]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=505 gid=505 euid=505 egid=505

In my case, it seems to happen while/after importing a network packet from Uncensored. I've been running 8.15, via EasyInstall, for quite some time now.

since you already started digging into this, why not finish the work and propose a patch?

I recently installed citadel/webcit 8.16 on FreeBSD. It works but I got trouble with the amount of syslog entries. Webcit logs aggressively NON-ERROR messages into my /var/log/messages regardless of the webcit start-options -x{loglevel} and -t{/tracedir} described in the manpage (which seems to be out-of-date). With this situation I the whole syslog is useless because of the amount of webcit messages.
Examples:
 webcit[2884]: HTTP: 200 [1.122551] GET //landing?go=
 webcit[2884]: SSL started
 webcit[2884]: SSL_accept success

These non-error messages are transmitted to syslog with the highest priority (like hardware errors), therefore I cannot switch them off.
Citadel has the switch [-lLogFacility], therefore I can filter the messages and bypass in a separate log-file simply by editing syslog.conf (also the log priority of messages which are recorded can be selected). But Webcit has not (or is not functional).
My solution was to search all syslog-calls in the webc ]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3384959Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:25:59 +05003384959@Uncensored

 

Thu Jan 17 2013 21:05:40 EST from TAFB @ Uncensored Subject: Citadel crashing problem

Every two or three days Citadel crashes with the follow error:

 

citserver[14393]: CC[29334]<> 0 new of 0 total messages
BDB2051 52 lockers
citserver[14393]: SMTP server: QUIT
citserver[14393]: Performing SMTP cleanup hook
citserver[14393]: Closing socket 40
citserver[14393]: Context: [29330]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB2026 unable to destroy cond: Device or resource busy
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB0061 PANIC: Device or resource busy
citserver[14393]: bdb(): PANIC: Device or resource busy
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
citserver[14393]: bdb(): PANIC: BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
citserver[14393]: bdb(): txn_begin: BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
citserver[14393]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=7797 gid=100 euid=7797 egid=100
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
citserver[14393]: bdb(): PANIC: BDB0087

It might be a panic, but its not a crash.

do you have any further lines about that smtp session which is closing just before that occurs?

does it always happen in conjunction with an smtp session?

Every two or three days Citadel crashes with the follow error:

 

citserver[14393]: CC[29334]<> 0 new of 0 total messages
BDB2051 52 lockers
citserver[14393]: SMTP server: QUIT
citserver[14393]: Performing SMTP cleanup hook
citserver[14393]: Closing socket 40
citserver[14393]: Context: [29330]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB2026 unable to destroy cond: Device or resource busy
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB0061 PANIC: Device or resource busy
citserver[14393]: bdb(): PANIC: Device or resource busy
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
citserver[14393]: bdb(): PANIC: BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
citserver[14393]: bdb(): txn_begin: BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
citserver[14393]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=7797 gid=100 euid=7797 egid=100
citserver[14393]: DB: BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
citserver[14393]: bdb(): PANIC: BDB0087

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3384667Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:04:18 +05003384667@Uncensored

Whom should I contact concerning web application security issues? I don't want to publicly post them, nor post them on a mailing list without first notifying you guys

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3384555Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:36:39 +05003384555@Uncensored

Excellent help, I changed the represention of the outbound queue room and deleted all the messages in the queue. Whew! 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3384343Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:29:43 +05003384343@Uncensored

Hello,
I run citadel on a raspberrypi, and use it as a mail server, so 
the admin can send and fetch mails but other users can only send mails,
and I get a 550 error when I try to send a mail to a citadel user.
What should I do for solving this problem ?
Philippe
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3384217Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:01:07 +05003384217@Uncensored

 

Tue Jan 15 2013 20:51:28 EST from EricBell @ Uncensored  Subject: Need to delete __CitadelSMTPspoolout__ ... says "cant be delete"

Like another user I need to empty the SMTP queue and I believe I figured out the command to kill the room: './sendcommand KILL __CitadelSMTPspoolout__ 1' however my Citadel says '560 Can't delete this room.'  Any thoughts?  Thanks in advance.




please try this faq:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:recover

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3384068Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:51:28 +05003384068@Uncensored

Like another user I need to empty the SMTP queue and I believe I figured out the command to kill the room: './sendcommand KILL __CitadelSMTPspoolout__ 1' however my Citadel says '560 Can't delete this room.'  Any thoughts?  Thanks in advance.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3383865Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:22:58 +05003383865@Uncensored

Nevermind, Just had to wait a few minutes. Coffee can be blamed for that..and general IT pressures. 

Tue Jan 15 2013 11:16:37 EST from friday @ Uncensored  Subject: user already exists?

Don't see him in the list of users, either in the administration section or in the advanced section.
I had to delete a user and then recreate him. It's just the recreation part doesn't seem possible. I keep getting a "username already exists" message creating him in webcit.
 
Any quick commands?




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3383775Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:18:29 +05003383775@Uncensored

What I was able to do is go into the room, view the list as messages, sort by name, and hold shift to delete the ones I needed. It was a bit more than 1000, more like, oh...48,000.
Took a bit, but it worked. Thanks. 

Fri Jan 11 2013 10:33:21 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: command to delete entire outbound queue?

You can burn the queue by deleting the __CitadelSMTPspoolout__ room and then restarting citserver. 


 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3383688Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:16:37 +05003383688@Uncensored

Don't see him in the list of users, either in the administration section or in the advanced section.
I had to delete a user and then recreate him. It's just the recreation part doesn't seem possible. I keep getting a "username already exists" message creating him in webcit.
 
Any quick commands? 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3383515Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:36:18 +05003383515@Uncensored

For no discernable reason, the file "libcitadel-8.14.tar.gz" expands to a dir called "libcitadel-3.8.14". Is this just a mistake?
I'm trying to update a the arch linux AUR package build script so it works with the current version of citadel and this file name anomaly is messing with the script.
 
Thanks!

-A

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3383404Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:35:17 +05003383404@Uncensored

I know you can telnet into this version of citadel and get the complete look-n-feel there, and I like what I see in the web version as well.   Is there any chance of those two things being married together?   I like the old school citadel text command line thing.   But I don't want to use telnet.  I'd like to experience that to SOME degree on my web browser.  By this I mean, that a user logged into this website, could turn on a old-school mode where you can navigate the site using your keyboard?  Gmail for example has some keyboard shortcuts to move up and down a message list.    What if something like that were done?   Again, the user could turn this mode off and on.  So if he or she wanted to go within the rooms section (of this website) to another room, they'd hit "g", and it would navigate to that page, etc.  The reason I got thinking about this again was I saw these: http://terminal.jcubic.pl/examples.php .   Maybe not this text based of course since there's already telnet for that - but

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3383211Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:34:00 +05003383211@Uncensored

Ok...I've worked out creating (and cleanly linking to) sub-pages.
New question...is it possible to rename and/or delete those sub-pages, or are they inextricably stuck in the database forever. ;-)
Thanks.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3383076Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:06:14 +05003383076@Uncensored

 

Fri Jan 11 2013 10:12:37 PM EST from gefshep @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Wiki subpages

See my message May 23 (gefshep)  I posted my solution there
 

Fri Nov 02 2012 02:40:54 PM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Wiki subpages

Maybe this is a dumb question, maybe I'm just not seeing it or finding it on the doku.
If I want to use my Citadel as a Wiki (set up a Wiki room or two), how can I add pages to it?
For example, I've got "Mike's Wiki" created as a Wiki room, and I've performed my "edit this page" to put a little something on it.
I can edit it some more, but other Wikis have functions to add pages to the Wiki, and I'm unsure how, if at all, to do so without creating a ton of separate Wiki rooms.


 


So, basically the same as any other Wiki...create on the fly. Thanks.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3382648Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:14:40 +05003382648@Uncensored

Hello,
------
On our test system (Linux CentOS 6, citadel with easy_install) and also on the current web site uncensored.citadel.org
-------
In webcit tasks when you use "Time associated" feature for "Start Date" and "Due Date" and then save the task, on consequent opening of the task the time is not saved, but only the date is saved.
When creating a task in external client (e.g. KOrganizer) with associated time in it, then it is saved correctly. When opening externally created task in webcit, the "Time associated" feature is correctly saved.
I suppose it is a bug in webcit?
BTW, I do not know if this is the place for reporting possible bugs, or is there a tracking system somewhere?
Cheers,
TTT
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3382517Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:00:26 +05003382517@Uncensored

for those of you fighting spam, i've written a new FAQ:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:recover
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3382366Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:12:37 +05003382366@Uncensored

See my message May 23 (gefshep)  I posted my solution there
 

Fri Nov 02 2012 02:40:54 PM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Wiki subpages

Maybe this is a dumb question, maybe I'm just not seeing it or finding it on the doku.
If I want to use my Citadel as a Wiki (set up a Wiki room or two), how can I add pages to it?
For example, I've got "Mike's Wiki" created as a Wiki room, and I've performed my "edit this page" to put a little something on it.
I can edit it some more, but other Wikis have functions to add pages to the Wiki, and I'm unsure how, if at all, to do so without creating a ton of separate Wiki rooms.




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3382240Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:49:33 +05003382240@Uncensored

 

Fri Jan 11 2013 05:25:40 EST from nick122147 @ Uncensored  Subject: disable "new user" creation on website

on web login screen there is an option "new user" where anyone can make a new account and log in and send mail from my domain. isn't this a big security risk? how to disable this?




this depends.
by default, the self service users are allowed to post localy into rooms, but not send outbound mail (try here ;-)
you can however disable 'self service account creation'

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3382118Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:40:58 +05003382118@Uncensored

 

Fri Jan 11 2013 05:25:40 AM EST from nick122147 @ Uncensored  Subject: disable "new user" creation on website

on web login screen there is an option "new user" where anyone can make a new account and log in and send mail from my domain. isn't this a big security risk? how to disable this?


Check your site configuration in:

Administration
- Site Configuration
-- Access
--- Disable self-service user account creation; Hint: do not select both!

:) and read the friendly manuals :)
In our server I got this message if I try to create a new user:

Self-service user account creation is disabled on this system.

Regards
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3382026Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:30:18 +05003382026@Uncensored

Greetings.
Using Citadel 8.14 in debian squeeze.
When users write mails to a wrong address, I see the queue in (https://server/dotskip?room=__CitadelSMTPspoolout__&view=11) where Citadel retries until I delete the offending mail (it's ok).
In the section named: "Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:"
I see a text that never dissapear, like:

hotmail.com

This remains until I restart the server.
Using this: https://server/dotskip?room=__CitadelSMTPspoolout__&view=1
I see the the queue is empty.
This behaviours is ok? or I need to be concern about it?
Regards.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381892Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:33:21 +05003381892@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381791Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:37:49 +05003381791@Uncensored

An account got hacked. Firewall is now set to stop outbound port25. I have a 1000+ emails to delete out of queue. Any quick commands to do entire batch?
Just to let you know, amatuer at best with command line citadel. Been using webcit admin for everything. So, be gentle with me. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381658Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:25:40 +05003381658@Uncensored

on web login screen there is an option "new user" where anyone can make a new account and log in and send mail from my domain. isn't this a big security risk? how to disable this?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381542Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:21:14 +05003381542@Uncensored

the remote host requires SSL before allowing authentication.
the citadel smtp client doesn't support ssl/tls. maybe you could work around this using stunnel.org in client mode...

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381442Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:15:13 +05003381442@Uncensored

Hi,
I'm fairly to new Citadel and can't seem to figure out how to setup my Amazon SES smtp as a smarthost with TLS.  Whenever I enter username:password@email-smtp.us-east-1.amazonaws.com:25 into the smarthost area on the Administration page all my emails fail to be sent and I get a message from my Citadel install saying "Must issue a STARTTLS command first".  I've looked everywhere I can think of to set this up, but haven't found anything.  I have a feeling I probably missed something really simple, I just don't know what it is.
Thanks!
Ben

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381290Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:59:46 +05003381290@Uncensored

 

Thu Jan 10 2013 14:46:03 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Testing Citadel

 

Thu Jan 10 2013 11:44:12 EST from tttodorov @ Uncensored  Subject: Testing Citadel

Hi,
I am testing Citadel for the last few days and I am seriously considering to implement it in our company. There are two things I would need help with:
--- My citadel test environment is:
CentOS release 6.3 (Final)
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-279.el6.i686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 22 10:59:55 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Citadel installed via easy_install
-----------------------------------------------
1) The server Aide cannot delete floors. When I log into text client or even when I connect to the citadel port it says that I still have 2 rooms:
KFLR 4 1
561 Cannot delete; floor contains 2 rooms.

--> but I cannot find these two rooms anywhere?
2) Just from curiosity: I think Kmail, Korganizer, Kaddresbook are the best clients for Linux. Does someone have better suggestions?
 
Thanks in advance and have fun with citadel :)
Todor
 
 




1) you probably want to delete the main floor? it contains all private rooms, and i.e. hidden rooms like the queue rooms
2) yes, definitely a good choice.Kolab1/imap connection 4tw.
 






Hi dothebart,
Thanks for your reply!
For 1) --> No, not the main floor. Me and my colleague were testing aggresively creation of rooms and floors and their changes and deletions. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce the situation anymore :( I think if one has a good design strategy, then the floor design should be created at the beginning and never changed, so in productional environment this problem would have no sense.
For 2) --> Yes! :) I am glad to hear your opinion. Using the combination of Kmail/organizer plus webcit feels like a decent collaboration suite. There are also some nice tweaks in citadel which could not be found in any other Open Source nor proprietary server ;)
Cheers,
Todor
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381203Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:46:03 +05003381203@Uncensored

 

Thu Jan 10 2013 11:44:12 EST from tttodorov @ Uncensored  Subject: Testing Citadel

Hi,
I am testing Citadel for the last few days and I am seriously considering to implement it in our company. There are two things I would need help with:
--- My citadel test environment is:
CentOS release 6.3 (Final)
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-279.el6.i686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 22 10:59:55 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Citadel installed via easy_install
-----------------------------------------------
1) The server Aide cannot delete floors. When I log into text client or even when I connect to the citadel port it says that I still have 2 rooms:
KFLR 4 1
561 Cannot delete; floor contains 2 rooms.

--> but I cannot find these two rooms anywhere?
2) Just from curiosity: I think Kmail, Korganizer, Kaddresbook are the best clients for Linux. Does someone have better suggestions?
 
Thanks in advance and have fun with citadel :)
Todor
 
 




1) you probably want to delete the main floor? it contains all private rooms, and i.e. hidden rooms like the queue rooms
2) yes, definitely a good choice.Kolab1/imap connection 4tw.
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3381071Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:44:12 +05003381071@Uncensored

Hi,
I am testing Citadel for the last few days and I am seriously considering to implement it in our company. There are two things I would need help with:
--- My citadel test environment is:
CentOS release 6.3 (Final)
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-279.el6.i686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 22 10:59:55 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Citadel installed via easy_install
-----------------------------------------------
1) The server Aide cannot delete floors. When I log into text client or even when I connect to the citadel port it says that I still have 2 rooms:
KFLR 4 1
561 Cannot delete; floor contains 2 rooms.

--> but I cannot find these two rooms anywhere?
2) Just from curiosity: I think Kmail, Korganizer, Kaddresbook are the best clients for Linux. Does someone have better suggestions?
 
Thanks in advance and have fun with citadel :)
Todor
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380878Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:28:56 +05003380878@Uncensored

 

Sat Jan 05 2013 08:09:42 AM EST from hakimoto @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error

 

...

Sat Jan  5 17:37:59 AFT 2013
So both client and server are running on a +0430 offset, but citadel insists on +0400.
 
Can any of the devs confirm whether citadel queries /etc/localtime for timezone info?




So far, I have the offset from :
libical/zoneinfo/Asia/Kabul.ics
TZOFFSETFROM:+0430
TZOFFSETTO:+0430
TZNAME:AFT
But I am not sure how the offset from gmt comes out of the wash in:
citadel/genstamp.c
 
00060         offset = ( (offset / 3600) * 100 ) + ( offset % 60 );
 
Does the modulus 60 do the right thing for half hour gmt (i.e. non int gmt offsets?) ... Still learning the code (and learning the contributions of Dotthebart and IG to the complicated world of timezones (thanks for keeping the GPL world going with that library, you guys rock!))...
 
I did not do a trace to debug, and this is only a SWAG, so forgive me if I am not helping.  I did not parse the TZOFFSET(FROM or TO)  and if it is doing something with 4 vs 4.5 or some conversion inbetween.  I did test the int vs float version and it gave different results, so not sure if that helps or not.
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380784Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:37:29 +05003380784@Uncensored

 

Wed Jan 09 2013 07:37:38 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error

We did spend some time experimenting with doxygen. The effort was abandoned because it enforces a commenting style that is a bit more rigid than we were comfortable with. 


I am using Doxygen because I was too lazy to generate Ctags :-)   It helps pop between source files and makes them pretty colors for me.  Don't change your style to match that tool on my account.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380530Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:47:59 +05003380530@Uncensored

Thank you dothbart!! FYI, I got the same mail late yesterday from someone I know who is not in my contacts. It is going around attached as a .php file. Thanks again.

Wed Jan 09 2013 09:35:58 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: How to delete Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:

killing current outbound mailjobs is not implemented in the currently released version; So you need to restart citserver by
/etc/init.d/citadel stop
check its gone...
and
/etc/init.d/citadel start




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380439Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:39:18 +05003380439@Uncensored

 

Wed Jan 09 2013 02:16:29 EST from hakimoto @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error

 

Sun Jan 06 2013 23:50:03 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error




I am staring to read the codebase, but it will take me some time to soak up.  Lots of history there, and I am a bit out of practice.  At least it gives me a chance to learn a codebase that I am quite intrested in.


Still looking.  I have found bash scripts that find the ascii (i.e. non offset in numeric terms) the timezone.  I have found header files that describe the timezone and a timezone table that is probably used in a hisorical way, but nothing just yet.  I have a tool that can make documentation and links based on a codebase that I am going to try next.  It is called Doxygen if you get to it first.




Thanks, I appreciate your efforts. Again, if any of the devs have something to say on the matter, it'll be much appreciated. Fact remains, after processing by citserver, the offset is wrong by half an hour...
Do let me know if you get anywhere with doxygen, I'm very rusty myself, but I wouldn't mind looking at the codebase.




sorry, a little busy atm.
handling of timestamps probably occurs somewhere in the code where you can find
['T'] - in these places probably half hour timezone steps are not implemented.
(see citadel/techdoc/hack.txt )

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380357Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:35:58 +05003380357@Uncensored

killing current outbound mailjobs is not implemented in the currently released version; So you need to restart citserver by
/etc/init.d/citadel stop
check its gone...
and
/etc/init.d/citadel start

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380267Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:14:51 +05003380267@Uncensored

 

Tue Jan 08 2013 14:38:42 EST from daddyvdub @ Uncensored  Subject: How to delete Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:

Virus or bot got through and started spamming this morning. How do I clear the section named Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:. There seems to be no way to click on, highlight or view any information on the list under View the outbound SMTP queue.
Thanks for any help
Ubuntu 12.10
Citadel 8.12
 




you can use the general purpose mail view to flush the mailque with many messages.
add
/dotgoto?room=__CitadelSMTPspoolout__&view=1
to your domain, and delete all mails you find.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380177Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:57:38 +05003380177@Uncensored

  Somebody show me the love. I'm just an business owner trying to wear multiple hats. Spent a day trying to find the answer before asking the forum for help. Deleting individual mail jobs is simple but how do I get rid of this crap above them?
 

Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:







overwonderusa.info


overwonderco.info


breadsales.info


breadsales.info


totyreem.in


lytesjoppa.in


conveyancers.in


timbebhalu.in


up-mail2.info


queghferv.in


sosmail01.info


omskyalb.in


memail05.info


memail02.info


msn.com


combenus.info


aysing.info


tn.gov


tn.gov


tn.gov


tn.gov


tn.gov


tn.gov


tn.gov


eskyappet.in


luketdisty.in


thridanama.in


hajjsfrush.in


memail02.info


sonkboann.in


musalarni.in


mail-02.info


albuquerquea.in


cottagers.in


furrsgooma.in


akneebolis.in


livefortomorrow.info


jenathos.in


breadsales.info









Tue Jan 08 2013 02:38:42 PM EST from daddyvdub @ Uncensored  Subject: How to delete Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:

Virus or bot got through and started spamming this morning. How do I clear the section named Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:. There seems to be no way to click on, highlight or view any information on the list under View the outbound SMTP queue.
Thanks for any help
Ubuntu 12.10
Citadel 8.12
 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3380084Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:27:10 +05003380084@Uncensored

IG: He included the OS: "Operating system: Linux RedHat 6.0(Final 2.6.32-71.el6.i686 i686" The libraries aren't the issue, though...the configure output showed a lack of compiler.
Jones: Try "yum install gcc" and then go from there.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379904Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:38:13 +05003379904@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379903Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:37:38 +05003379903@UncensoredDo let me know if you get anywhere with doxygen, I'm very rusty  
 >myself, but I wouldn't mind looking at the codebase.  
  
 We did spend some time experimenting with doxygen.  The effort was abandoned
because it enforces a commenting style that is a bit more rigid than we were
comfortable with. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379792Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:11:19 +05003379792@Uncensored

checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether /usr/bin/gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for bison... no
checking for byacc... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: in `/tmp/citadel-build.4322/libical':
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.
Operating system: Linux RedHat 6.0(Final 2.6.32-71.el6.i686 i686

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379691Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:16:29 +05003379691@Uncensored

 

Sun Jan 06 2013 23:50:03 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error




I am staring to read the codebase, but it will take me some time to soak up.  Lots of history there, and I am a bit out of practice.  At least it gives me a chance to learn a codebase that I am quite intrested in.


Still looking.  I have found bash scripts that find the ascii (i.e. non offset in numeric terms) the timezone.  I have found header files that describe the timezone and a timezone table that is probably used in a hisorical way, but nothing just yet.  I have a tool that can make documentation and links based on a codebase that I am going to try next.  It is called Doxygen if you get to it first.




Thanks, I appreciate your efforts. Again, if any of the devs have something to say on the matter, it'll be much appreciated. Fact remains, after processing by citserver, the offset is wrong by half an hour...
Do let me know if you get anywhere with doxygen, I'm very rusty myself, but I wouldn't mind looking at the codebase.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379548Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:54:51 +05003379548@Uncensored

Hi,
im running Citadel and so far im very happy with it. However, i would like to sync my Nokia N9 (MeeGo) with it, best would even be using Push-Mail. I understand, Citadel has Webdav (for Calendar) and IMAP (for Mail, though no Push). N9 has Support for MfE, eg. Exchange Active Sync. I previously used Z-Push together with Zarafa, is there a working Implementation of Z-Push for Citadel or some other way to get me what i want?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379450Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:38:42 +05003379450@Uncensored

Virus or bot got through and started spamming this morning. How do I clear the section named Currently active mail delivery jobs; Remote Sites:. There seems to be no way to click on, highlight or view any information on the list under View the outbound SMTP queue.
Thanks for any help
Ubuntu 12.10
Citadel 8.12
 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379265Tue, 08 Jan 2013 03:52:00 +05003379265@Uncensored

i was working on the issue now i have them connected but
logging in with different users displays same name
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379168Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:20:25 +05003379168@Uncensored

hi
i m new to citadel i m having problem with connecting my ldap server to citadel
i have configured the citadel to run with ldap but the users are not saved in ldap database
what can be the possible steps i can do
thanks in advance

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3379026Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:40:09 +05003379026@Uncensored

I find this forum usless without the ability to search.  I found the answer to the first part of my previous question (without help from this forum) but I still don't have an answer for the second part.  I think there would be less repeated questions if people could search.  Google is no help either since most of the answers point to this forum and when clicking on the result it displays the wrong section of the forum.
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3378894Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:07:49 +05003378894@Uncensored

 

Mon Jan 07 2013 02:48:49 EST from technobuddy @ Uncensored  Subject: Cannot Send/receive from external emails

 I have successfully added the accounts into my smartphone and can send internal email but still cannot send external email.


I have the same problem, and it's because my ISP blocks outgoing port 25 (i.e. I can receive e-mail fine, but can not send). I tried to set up Smart Host/Smart Relay through my ISP's mail servers, but they only support me@myisp.com not me@mydomain.com so I ended up having to forward through gmails SMTP servers. Works great now. I can not help you with the config/setup of it, a friend set it up for me.
-Jamie M.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3378803Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:41:24 +05003378803@Uncensored

you can try
sendcommand QDIR somebody@yourbox
and see to whom it will deliver in the end.
you also should be able to telnet to it on port 25 to see whether you can connect citserver:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3378659Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:48:49 +05003378659@Uncensored

 
I have successfully added the accounts into my smartphone and can send internal email but still cannot send external email.
 
In the outgoing queue these two error keeps occouring
Failed to create socket: Address family not supported by protocol 
Connection broken during SMTP conversation
Alternatively I get this error from my external gmail account when i try to send to my local addresses.
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     cody@technomacho.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was re
 
MX toolbox.com show these settings when my domain "technomacho.com" is looked up.
220 technomacho.com ESMTP Citadel server ready.


 
Test
Result

SMTP Reverse Banner Check
OK - 108.205.171.24 resolves to 108-205-171-24.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net
 



SMTP Reverse DNS Mismatch
Warning - Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner
Ignore



SMTP TLS
Warning - Does not support TLS.
Ignore



SMTP Connection Time
0 seconds - Good on Connection time
 



SMTP Open Relay
OK - Not an open relay.
 



SMTP Transaction Time
0.593 seconds - Good on Transaction Time



Does anyone have an idea of what might be wrong with this setup?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3378556Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:02:52 +05003378556@Uncensored

Hello,
 
    First I would like to say thanks for a great product.  I've been using Citadel for well over a year without issues but I've run into one I can't resolve. I'm getting the following message when I try to send Email:
 
A message you sent could not be delivered to some or all of its recipients.
The following addresses were undeliverable:
  Person@TheirDomain.com: 5.7.1 The message from (<Me@MyDomain.com>) with the subject of (test) matches a profile the Internet community may consider spam. Please revise your message before resending.
 
I changed the inbound and outbound Email address.  I'm able to send Email to anyone except this one address.  I tried changing the subject several times and I've also tried just sending 'test'.
I'm using Fedora 17 with Citadel 8.14.  The maillog shows it was accepted for delivery.  I tried turning off Spamassassin to see if it made any difference with no luck.  
I have two questions:
1)  Any ideas on why this is happening?
2) Can I enable more logging so I can see why Citadel is rejecting the Email?
Thanks you
 
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3378474Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:50:03 +05003378474@Uncensored




I am staring to read the codebase, but it will take me some time to soak up.  Lots of history there, and I am a bit out of practice.  At least it gives me a chance to learn a codebase that I am quite intrested in.


Still looking.  I have found bash scripts that find the ascii (i.e. non offset in numeric terms) the timezone.  I have found header files that describe the timezone and a timezone table that is probably used in a hisorical way, but nothing just yet.  I have a tool that can make documentation and links based on a codebase that I am going to try next.  It is called Doxygen if you get to it first.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3378259Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:18:46 +05003378259@Uncensored




Can any of the devs confirm whether citadel queries /etc/localtime for timezone info?


I am staring to read the codebase, but it will take me some time to soak up.  Lots of history there, and I am a bit out of practice.  At least it gives me a chance to learn a codebase that I am quite intrested in.
 

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Sat Dec 22 2012 05:38:50 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Why no catch-all account!?

First: there won't be any way for citadel receiving emails for random accounts.
maybe you could use qmail in conjunction with lmtp to get a catchall again (see some of these faqs: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:start) But you can take my word that there won't be an implementation of this inside of citadel. 

I just wanted to give you a HUGE thanks!!! I was not able to ever get qmail working (omg what a pain) but was able to get exim working FLAWLESS with Citadel!!! exim accepts my catch-all e-mail and drops it into citadel. Works so amazing. I can use the /etc/mail/aliases.d/mydomain.com files to blacklist e-mail addresses that I don't want to receive mail on (nice thing is, it actually denies the connection, not make a bounce message: "error 550 5.4.1 account has been permanently suspended). Sweeeet!
All of this running on Arch linux, 128mb ram on my little Seagate GoFlex Home "server" :) I was able to setup nginx to proxy to Citadel as well, because Citadel on port 8888 was blocked on some of my mobile devices!! AMAZING setup you guys have, just amazing.
 
Server status page: http://tafb.yi.org
Citadel webmail: http://tafb.yi.org/webmail
 
-Jamie M.

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Sat Jan 05 2013 00:24:29 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error



No, there is no delay to speak of. This is all happening on a local network.

The issue I have is that the message, as generated by citserver, has an offset of +0400. That is wrong. It should be +0430. Thus, also with reference to what you wrote earlier, it is numerically wrong. Oh, and the email I sent from my account to myself. As such, no, the offset does not agree. Neither in the sent message nor in the received message is the offset correct. In both cases it is +0400 instead of +0430.




So it sounds like the timezone offset in the header created by the MTA (mail transfer agent - i.e. Citadel) is wrong.  What is your timezone setting on the server?
You can get the settings via:
dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
under Ubuntu.  That command seems to be the current way to query the timezone under Ubuntu (as well as set it).  From what I gather, the ancient RFC that deals with this is still correct (the AFT part is ignored), but the offset must be correct.
Here is some info on Ubuntu / Debian on how to get more current timezone data:
http://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges
It looks like you can update the timezone data (and get more sets) via some of the other commands like zdump.
Combined with system utilities like the date command, it would seem you could test and tweak the timezone data to be more precise and thus Citadel would probably work fine, but that is just a guess as I am not a developer, just a Linux admin who has not had to deal with timezones too much.
Hope this helps.
p.s.
If I am totally off base, one of the developers would probably chime in if Citadel does not query the /etc/localtime for timezone info of the local system.




See, that's the problem. The time zone is set up correctly, both on the client and the server:
Server:

hakim@dksrv:~$ uname -ar
Linux dksrv 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
hakim@dksrv:~$ date
Sat Jan  5 17:35:22 AFT 2013
hakim@dksrv:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata 
Current default time zone: 'Asia/Kabul'
Local time is now:      Sat Jan  5 17:35:46 AFT 2013.
Universal Time is now:  Sat Jan  5 13:05:46 UTC 2013.
hakim@dksrv:~$ date
Sat Jan  5 17:35:50 AFT 2013

Client:

hhamdani@tiamat:~$ uname -ar
Linux tiamat 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
hhamdani@tiamat:~$ date
Sat Jan  5 17:37:13 AFT 2013
hhamdani@tiamat:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
Current default time zone: 'Asia/Kabul'
Local time is now:      Sat Jan  5 17:37:24 AFT 2013.
Universal Time is now:  Sat Jan  5 13:07:24 UTC 2013.
hhamdani@tiamat:~$ date
Sat Jan  5 17:37:59 AFT 2013
So both client and server are running on a +0430 offset, but citadel insists on +0400.
 
Can any of the devs confirm whether citadel queries /etc/localtime for timezone info?

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No, there is no delay to speak of. This is all happening on a local network.

The issue I have is that the message, as generated by citserver, has an offset of +0400. That is wrong. It should be +0430. Thus, also with reference to what you wrote earlier, it is numerically wrong. Oh, and the email I sent from my account to myself. As such, no, the offset does not agree. Neither in the sent message nor in the received message is the offset correct. In both cases it is +0400 instead of +0430.




So it sounds like the timezone offset in the header created by the MTA (mail transfer agent - i.e. Citadel) is wrong.  What is your timezone setting on the server?
You can get the settings via:
dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
under Ubuntu.  That command seems to be the current way to query the timezone under Ubuntu (as well as set it).  From what I gather, the ancient RFC that deals with this is still correct (the AFT part is ignored), but the offset must be correct.
Here is some info on Ubuntu / Debian on how to get more current timezone data:
http://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges
It looks like you can update the timezone data (and get more sets) via some of the other commands like zdump.
Combined with system utilities like the date command, it would seem you could test and tweak the timezone data to be more precise and thus Citadel would probably work fine, but that is just a guess as I am not a developer, just a Linux admin who has not had to deal with timezones too much.
Hope this helps.
p.s.
If I am totally off base, one of the developers would probably chime in if Citadel does not query the /etc/localtime for timezone info of the local system.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3377826Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:45:30 +05003377826@Uncensored

 

Fri Jan 04 2013 01:06:14 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error

 

Fri Jan 04 2013 01:00:18 AM EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error

From what little I have researched in the area, the timezone is numerical in the header, and the CST, GMT, etc is / should be ignored by programs that interpret the header.
What is the header on the email saying on the far end, and does it agree with the same offset from GMT in strictly numerical terms (i.e. ignoring any un-parsed character representation of the timezone) from the sending header (cc: someone on the local system to check).




If there is significant delay in the delivery of the message, some MTA's add the delay to the time, but I would guess less that the time elapsed since sending the mesage in your case.




No, there is no delay to speak of. This is all happening on a local network.

The issue I have is that the message, as generated by citserver, has an offset of +0400. That is wrong. It should be +0430. Thus, also with reference to what you wrote earlier, it is numerically wrong. Oh, and the email I sent from my account to myself. As such, no, the offset does not agree. Neither in the sent message nor in the received message is the offset correct. In both cases it is +0400 instead of +0430.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3377542Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:06:14 +05003377542@Uncensored

 

Fri Jan 04 2013 01:00:18 AM EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: citserver 8.14: time zone error

From what little I have researched in the area, the timezone is numerical in the header, and the CST, GMT, etc is / should be ignored by programs that interpret the header.
What is the header on the email saying on the far end, and does it agree with the same offset from GMT in strictly numerical terms (i.e. ignoring any un-parsed character representation of the timezone) from the sending header (cc: someone on the local system to check).




If there is significant delay in the delivery of the message, some MTA's add the delay to the time, but I would guess less that the time elapsed since sending the mesage in your case.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3377453Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:00:18 +05003377453@Uncensored

From what little I have researched in the area, the timezone is numerical in the header, and the CST, GMT, etc is / should be ignored by programs that interpret the header.
What is the header on the email saying on the far end, and does it agree with the same offset from GMT in strictly numerical terms (i.e. ignoring any un-parsed character representation of the timezone) from the sending header (cc: someone on the local system to check).

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3377350Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:38:14 +05003377350@Uncensored

     A user was kind enough to point out that using the telnet interface, .help ../../../../../etc/passwd for example would allow them to read any file on the file system they had read access to.  This impresses me as less than desirable behavior and I'm worndering if there is any fix in the works?
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3377101Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:00:26 +05003377101@Uncensored

Dear All,
 
this is my first post to the Citadel Support forums as, until now, everything was going very smoothly. We are using citadel here in our medical facility in Kabul, Afghanistan and, except for one thing, everything works very fine.
We are running 8.14 by the way on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the binary packages from the repository site.
When sending emails, the time zone offset is inserted into the mail header wrongly, which leads to Thunderbird (client of choice here) to display them as half an hour into the future, whilst in the webcit interface the times are correct (but the offset still wrong). An example will illustrate that this has NOTHING to do with Thunderbird:
1. Log into the webcit interface
2. Computer time (client):

Thu Jan 3 14:14:57 AFT 2013
3. Computer time (server):

Thu Jan 3 14:14:56 AFT 2013
4. Message written and sent, appears in the mail view as:2:15 PM (this is correct)
5. Headers show the wrong timezone offset:

Return-Path: info@XXXXXX.com
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXX.com
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:15:00 +0400
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <50E5531D-0000F37F@XXXXX.XXXXXX.com>
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The time zone offset for Kabul is +0430, NOT +0400.
6. Accordingly, in Thunderbird the message is shown as:2:45 PM (wrong, but correctly calculated as it presumes the message to be originating from the +0400 timezone)
 
Can anyone advise where to start looking for the fault? Naturally the setup of the client and the server is EXACTLY the same (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, AFT, the timezone files were diffed, they are identical).
I'm really at a loss here. Where does citadel get its timezone info from if not from the host system?
 
Thanks for any suggestions,
 
best regards,
 
hakimoto
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3376895Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:03:52 +05003376895@Uncensored

This is mysterious. I have a Citadel server running, and all email and webmail, etc are working. I can connect using secure IMAP and SMTP, ports 993 and 465 using Thunderbird for Mac OS X. However, if I try to connect from Outlook Express or the Windows version of Thunderbird, I can not. The exact same accounts an settings work from a Mac, but not from Windows. Has anyone seen anything like this, or have an idea what could cause it?

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Tue Jan 01 2013 11:12:30 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

I updated Easy Install from the stable tree tonight, but I still don't see Reply All working everywhere. This needs to be addressed, of course. 


Thanks IG.  I will give it a spin after the patch makes it in.

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*bump*

 

Tue Dec 25 2012 13:46:44 EST from athos-mn @ Uncensored Subject: ctdlmigrate doesn't move data

Maybe I'm missing the purpose of ctdlmigrate, because it's saying the migration I was attempting to perform was successful, but none of the data, users, or even basic site configuration settings were transfered. 
 
Thanks in advance. 
 
---
 
Quick-and-dirty tale of events:
1. Ran easy install on my existing system, bringing it up-to-date  (citserver 8.15). This is on CentOS 5.8.
2. Ran easy install on my new system (CentOS 6.3, 64-bit), and ran ctdlmigrate from that system as root.
 
Here's the output from ctdlmigrate:
 
Locating 'sendcommand' and checking connectivity to Citadel...
sendcommand: started (pid=14152) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
200 dredd Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
NOOP
200 ok
sendcommand: processing ended.

OK, this side is ready to go.  Now we must connect to the source system.

Enter the host name or IP address of the source system
(example: ctdl.foo.org)
--> 10.0.5.40

Enter the name of a user on 10.0.5.40 who has full access to Citadel files
(usually root)
--> root

Establishing an SSH connection to the source system...

root@10.0.5.40's password: 


Testing a command over the connection...

Remote commands are executing successfully.


Locating the remote 'sendcommand' and Citadel installation...
sendcommand: started




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3376563Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:12:30 +05003376563@UncensoredLast I built mine via easy_install - Citadel 8.15 with WebCit 8.15,  
 >server build 8.15, it was still missing the reply all patch.  Would  
 >it be possible to make some sort of "local easy install" tarball that  
 >would be able to be patched for the source file in question?   
  
 I updated Easy Install from the stable tree tonight, but I still don't see
Reply All working everywhere.  This needs to be addressed, of course. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3376421Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:05:43 +05003376421@Uncensored

I have a small suggestions for a feature that might be helpful to some people.
Currently, a user can enter a room and see a description of this room (in WebCit, for example, the banner at the top offers a graphic and a description).
I can see a use for extending this (somehow) to floors as well.  Problem is, I can't see how to fit it into WebCit.  It's easy for the text client, since '.ri' shows you information about the current room, so ';ri' could give information for the current floor.
But, short of using a tool-tip when someone hovers over the floor's name in the 'Rooms' area in WebCit, I'm not sure how you'd present this information for floors.  And I also suspect there's a fair amount of work involved in making something like this happen (entries for the database, commands to add to the citadel protocol, etc).

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3376300Tue, 01 Jan 2013 08:03:54 +05003376300@Uncensored

The links on the following page are bad:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/news:multisync_is_now_supported
Is multisync still supported?
Is there any other sync method that supports syncml including notes?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3376216Tue, 01 Jan 2013 08:03:03 +05003376216@Uncensored

Should I be able to search messages in the room?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3376101Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:18:29 +05003376101@Uncensored

Happy new year!
 
Well, the string that I have is 71 characters long, which is more than the defined 64 characters in smathosts.html. Obviously I had to increase the string length to at least 71 characters. I did so restarted webcit and it workes well now.
Thanks a lot for your help.
 
Regards,
 
Markus
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375992Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:42:43 +05003375992@Uncensored

Thanks for the suggestion, ax25. What you printed below is actually the same method I was using. Turns out my problem was simpler than I thought. What I ended up doing was trying it as root from the command line, as opposed to sudo user. That worked, so I looked at the ownership and permissions of usr/local/citadel/citmail, and it was root:root with some restrictions on group. Changing the group to www-data was enough to allow apache2 and my bash user to execute it. The error I was getting (No such file or directory) was due to the calling user not having priveledges to execute the file :)
What I did precisely was:

sudo chown citadel:www-data /usr/local/citadel/citmail

Yay, now php running under apache is allowed to send mail. I could have left the owner as root too and just change the group. Maybe this post will help someone else with similar troubles.
Happy new year!

Mon Dec 31 2012 15:46:43 ESTfrom ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory

Have you tried the tricks here:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:does_citadel_have
I have had luck just calling sendmail via the suggestion from that page after:
cd /usr/local/citadel 
cd /usr/sbin 
mv sendmail sendmail.OLD 
ln -s /usr/local/citadel/citmail ./sendmail 
That will fix pathing issues that arise from having aliases and or other bits that end up having you talking to the sendmail binary.




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375968Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:46:43 +05003375968@Uncensored

Have you tried the tricks here:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:does_citadel_have
I have had luck just calling sendmail via the suggestion from that page after:
cd /usr/local/citadel 
cd /usr/sbin 
mv sendmail sendmail.OLD 
ln -s /usr/local/citadel/citmail ./sendmail 
That will fix pathing issues that arise from having aliases and or other bits that end up having you talking to the sendmail binary.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375879Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:20:41 +05003375879@Uncensored

Sorry, I did typo the version of Ubuntu. It is 10.04.4 LTS.

Mon Dec 31 2012 14:00:20 EST from Robert Beverly @ Uncensored  Subject: citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory

I have citadel and webcit working fine on my Ubuntu 10.4 server. The only thing I can not figure out is how to get citmail working to send mail from php scripts and shell scripts on the same server. I have confirmed that my scripts are calling citmail, either via a symbolic link pointing from /usr/sbin/sendmail to citmail, or just directly by pointing the path in php.ini to citmail.
However, mail does not seem to be added to the citadel spool. Here is a test bash script that I tried:

#!/bin/bash
 
CITMAIL=/usr/sbin/citmail
RECIPIENT=testrecipient@somecitadelserver.org
 
cat <<EOF | $CITMAIL -t ${RECIPIENT}
From: testuser@somewhere.org
To: ${RECIPIENT}
Subject: testmail
 
some test text.
EOF

If I run it, ala:

./mailtest.sh

I get the following message:

citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory

I do not really know what that message is trying to tell me. I could not find anything via google to help me interpret it. I assume the citmail binary is looking for a file and can't find it? But as to which file that would be I am lost. Also, there is no difference if I run under sudo.
Any ideas what would cause this? Hints? Do I need to do some kind of configuration of LMTP in Ubuntu, or configure citadel and citmail so that they know how to connect to each other? Again, the citadel server is sending and receiving mail, botht through webcit and when set up through an email client such as Thunderbird. I don't know what to try diagnosing next... thanks for any hints :)




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375774Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:04:53 +05003375774@Uncensored

Ok, that and a few other files like the init-script tarball and some checksum files, gpl.txt ...  Now I have a working easy install location.  Always fun to try something new!  Would probably be a pain to track future changes.  Is it possible to wget the whole shooting match (i.e. from a web server directory listing)?
 

Mon Dec 31 2012 11:52:08 AM ESTfrom ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Need help regarding Citadel installation

Looks like I could just:
expand the webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz
patch the source file in question, tar gzip it back up.
And repoint the download location in the install script to a web server that I upload the source tarballs along with the patched one.
Should work right?  Think I will try it out on a test server first :-)



]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375687Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:00:20 +05003375687@Uncensored

I have citadel and webcit working fine on my Ubuntu 10.4 server. The only thing I can not figure out is how to get citmail working to send mail from php scripts and shell scripts on the same server. I have confirmed that my scripts are calling citmail, either via a symbolic link pointing from /usr/sbin/sendmail to citmail, or just directly by pointing the path in php.ini to citmail.
However, mail does not seem to be added to the citadel spool. Here is a test bash script that I tried:

#!/bin/bash
 
CITMAIL=/usr/sbin/citmail
RECIPIENT=testrecipient@somecitadelserver.org
 
cat <<EOF | $CITMAIL -t ${RECIPIENT}
From: testuser@somewhere.org
To: ${RECIPIENT}
Subject: testmail
 
some test text.
EOF

If I run it, ala:

./mailtest.sh

I get the following message:

citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory

I do not really know what that message is trying to tell me. I could not find anything via google to help me interpret it. I assume the citmail binary is looking for a file and can't find it? But as to which file that would be I am lost. Also, there is no difference if I run under sudo.
Any ideas what would cause this? Hints? Do I need to do some kind of configuration of LMTP in Ubuntu, or configure citadel and citmail so that they know how to connect to each other? Again, the citadel server is sending and receiving mail, botht through webcit and when set up through an email client such as Thunderbird. I don't know what to try diagnosing next... thanks for any hints :)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375579Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:52:08 +05003375579@Uncensored

Looks like I could just:
expand the webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz
patch the source file in question, tar gzip it back up.
And repoint the download location in the install script to a web server that I upload the source tarballs along with the patched one.
Should work right?  Think I will try it out on a test server first :-)
 

Fri Dec 28 2012 09:36:29 AM EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Need help regarding Citadel installation

 

Wed Dec 26 2012 07:33:08 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Need help regarding Citadel installation

if you want to install to /usr/local anyways, why not use easy install? it brings you libical also plus has all the right magic spells to make the citadel build find it.




Last I built mine via easy_install - Citadel 8.15 with WebCit 8.15, server build 8.15, it was still missing the reply all patch.  Would it be possible to make some sort of "local easy install" tarball that would be able to be patched for the source file in question?
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commit;h=6a40bef83342b4519b9231ce67ad92eaef537574
or would it be best  to start over using source and just apply select patches?
 


 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375484Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:56:17 +05003375484@Uncensored

 

Mon Dec 31 2012 08:35:08 EST from markus @ Uncensored  Subject: Smart hosts - webcit - String to long

Hi there,
 
I want to set a smart host via webcit. The problem is the whole string seems to be to long to be processed by webcit. How can I change the character limit? Is there a configuration file for webcit or, if it is a citadel problem, does a configuration file exist for citadel?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Markus


hm,
most parts of webcit work with dynamic strings; I doubt that you will exceed that length.
I guess that you exceed the string length of the input field?
<tr><td>
<input type="text" name="ename" maxlength="64">
<input type="hidden" name="etype" VALUE="localhost">
</td><td align=left>
<input type="submit" name="oper" value="Add">

<input type="hidden" name="template" value="aide_display_inetconf">
</td></tr></table></form>
</div></div>

change it in webcits templates in 
static/t/aide/inet/smarthosts.html
restart webcit to make the changes take effect.

How long are your smarthost strings?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3375392Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:35:08 +05003375392@Uncensored

Hi there,
 
I want to set a smart host via webcit. The problem is the whole string seems to be to long to be processed by webcit. How can I change the character limit? Is there a configuration file for webcit or, if it is a citadel problem, does a configuration file exist for citadel?
Thanks in advance.
 
Regards,
 
Markus
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3374899Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:36:29 +05003374899@Uncensored

 

Wed Dec 26 2012 07:33:08 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Need help regarding Citadel installation

if you want to install to /usr/local anyways, why not use easy install? it brings you libical also plus has all the right magic spells to make the citadel build find it.




Last I built mine via easy_install - Citadel 8.15 with WebCit 8.15, server build 8.15, it was still missing the reply all patch.  Would it be possible to make some sort of "local easy install" tarball that would be able to be patched for the source file in question?
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commit;h=6a40bef83342b4519b9231ce67ad92eaef537574
or would it be best  to start over using source and just apply select patches?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3374633Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:29:51 +05003374633@Uncensored

 

Sat Dec 22 2012 05:38:50 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Why no catch-all account!?

First: there won't be any way for citadel receiving emails for random accounts.
If you want to use citadel, you'll at least have to consolidate the emai addresses you currently use. (grep? sed anyone?)
You can use the mail.aliases with citadel, or create aliases in your personal vcard.
The recommended way to connect Mailclients is not pop3; its imap.
With imap you can achieve to browse new mails on folders as you describe without any problems.
maybe you could use qmail in conjunction with lmtp to get a catchall again (see some of these faqs: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:start) But you can take my word that there won't be an implementation of this inside of citadel.


 
Thank you so much for the detailed reply. I checked out qmail, it looks like it'll do exactly what I want! It has a qmail.default account where it'll forward incoming email to unknown users to a single user account on the system. Absolutely flawless :)
 
I found a walk through for building Citadel on Arch linux so I'll get qmail set up and working and then install Citadel!! I can't wait to try it out :)
 
Thanks again.
 
-Jamie M.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3374438Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:33:08 +05003374438@Uncensored

if you want to install to /usr/local anyways, why not use easy install? it brings you libical also plus has all the right magic spells to make the citadel build find it.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3374343Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:46:01 +05003374343@Uncensored

Hi
       I was trying to configure citadel source code. During configure i found this Error as
"checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... yes
checking for pthread_create in -lpthreads... no
checking /usr/local/libical/ical.h usability... no
checking /usr/local/libical/ical.h presence... no
checking for /usr/local/libical/ical.h... no

configure: error: libical/ical.h was not found and is required.  More info: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:start"
 
But i already installed Libical code this file is present in /usr/loca/libical/ical.h. But still i am getting this error. So can you help me as soon as possible.




]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3374254Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:40:04 +05003374254@Uncensored


]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3374074Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:46:44 +05003374074@Uncensored

Maybe I'm missing the purpose of ctdlmigrate, because it's saying the migration I was attempting to perform was successful, but none of the data, users, or even basic site configuration settings were transfered. 
 
Thanks in advance. 
 
---
 
Quick-and-dirty tale of events:
1. Ran easy install on my existing system, bringing it up-to-date  (citserver 8.15). This is on CentOS 5.8.
2. Ran easy install on my new system (CentOS 6.3, 64-bit), and ran ctdlmigrate from that system as root.
 
Here's the output from ctdlmigrate:
 
Locating 'sendcommand' and checking connectivity to Citadel...
 sendcommand: started (pid=14152) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
 200 dredd Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
 NOOP
 200 ok
 sendcommand: processing ended.
 
 OK, this side is ready to go.  Now we must connect to the source system.
 
 Enter the host name or IP address of the source system
 (example: ctdl.foo.org)
 --> 10.0.5.40
 
 Enter the name of a user on 10.0.5.40 who has full access to Citadel files
 (usually root)
 --> root
 
 Establishing an SSH connection to the source system...
 
 root@10.0.5.40's password: 
 
 
 Testing a command over the connection...
 
 Remote commands are executing successfully.
 
 
 Locating the remote 'sendcommand' and Citadel installation...
 sendcomman

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3373655Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:41:07 +05003373655@Uncensored

Sounds good. I'll update the post accordingly!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3373546Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:03:44 +05003373546@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3373453Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:51:52 +05003373453@Uncensored

Sure! But it would be nice to name the source :)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3373350Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:15:13 +05003373350@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3373246Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:45:36 +05003373246@Uncensored

Thanks. Figured it out last night.... Citadel is now up and running. But: There were a few more problems. I wrote a HowTo install Citadel on FreeBSD 9.x http://blog.amp-off.com/recipe-citadel-on-freebsd-9-0/ May it help someone.
 
Cheers!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3373119Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:38:50 +05003373119@Uncensored

First: there won't be any way for citadel receiving emails for random accounts.
If you want to use citadel, you'll at least have to consolidate the emai addresses you currently use. (grep? sed anyone?)
You can use the mail.aliases with citadel, or create aliases in your personal vcard.
The recommended way to connect Mailclients is not pop3; its imap.
With imap you can achieve to browse new mails on folders as you describe without any problems.
maybe you could use qmail in conjunction with lmtp to get a catchall again (see some of these faqs: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:start) But you can take my word that there won't be an implementation of this inside of citadel.
 

Fri Dec 21 2012 21:22:19 EST from TAFB @ Uncensored  Subject: Why no catch-all account!?

My entire current e-mail system runs on the catch-all account. I has served me flawlessly for 15 years. I am moving away from my monster server and replacing it with the Pi. I have all of the websites moved over and working on Pancake and the next step was to get email moved over. My Pi: http://tafb.yi.org
 
I read in another post, that due to security concerns, you never implemented a catch-all feature for Citadel. It will be absolutely impossible for me to use Citadel without it.
 
How I've run my e-mail for 15 years on a catch-all account:
 
When setting up a new account on some website, forum, etc. I use their company name or domain name as my e-mail address, for example, for this forum I used citadel.org@mydomain.com and voila, I get e-mail from here automatically because I use a catch all account. I've done it this way for 15 years so you can imagine there's 1000's of e-mail addresses I've given out, that of course I have no record of and don't know about (unless they e-mail me on a regular basis of course).
 
The reson I did it this was was because of spam. If I start getting spam on citadel.org@mydomain.com I know you've either sold my e-mail address or your system has been comprimised. I simply sign in to the companies website (in this case citadel.org), change the e-mail address to citadel.org2@mydomain.com and then create a new account on my e-mail server called citadel.org@mydomain.com and set it to disabled, so it now rejects all mail coming in for citadel.org@mydomain.com
 
This has worked flawless for me for 15 years. Absolutely ZERO spam problems running ZERO spam filters. Please implement the catch-all feature or I will be unable to use Citadel :( How could I possibly create accounts for the thousands of e-mail addresses I've given out (most of which I don't know), then setup ALL of those accounts in my Outlook, instead of just one account? Imagine my outlook checking 1000 pop3 accounts on Citadel every 60 seconds! lol
 
-Jamie M.




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3372997Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:22:19 +05003372997@Uncensored

My entire current e-mail system runs on the catch-all account. I has served me flawlessly for 15 years. I am moving away from my monster server and replacing it with the Pi. I have all of the websites moved over and working on Pancake and the next step was to get email moved over. My Pi: http://tafb.yi.org
 
I read in another post, that due to security concerns, you never implemented a catch-all feature for Citadel. It will be absolutely impossible for me to use Citadel without it.
 
How I've run my e-mail for 15 years on a catch-all account:
 
When setting up a new account on some website, forum, etc. I use their company name or domain name as my e-mail address, for example, for this forum I used citadel.org@mydomain.com and voila, I get e-mail from here automatically because I use a catch all account. I've done it this way for 15 years so you can imagine there's 1000's of e-mail addresses I've given out, that of course I have no record of and don't know about (unless they e-mail me on a regular basis of course).
 
The reson I did it this was was because of spam. If I start getting spam on citadel.org@mydomain.com I know you've either sold my e-mail address or your system has been comprimised. I simply sign in to the companies website (in this case citadel.org), change the e-mail address to citadel.org2@mydomain.com and then create a new account on my e-mail server called citadel.org@mydomain.com and set it to disabled, so it now rejects all mail coming in for citadel.org@mydomain.com
 
This has worked flawless for me for 15 years. Absolutely ZERO spam problems running ZERO spam filters. Please implement the catch-all feature or I will be unable to use Citadel :( How could I possibly create accounts for the thousands of e-mail addresses I've given out (most of which I don't know), then setup ALL of those accounts in my Outlook, instead of just one account? Imagine my outlook checking 1000 pop3 accounts on Citadel every 60 seconds! lol
 
-Jamie M.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3372772Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:28:01 +05003372772@Uncensored

Hi all.  Great system!
Have I found a bug?  I need a workaround to this problem:
 
1. Get an LDAP based citadel system going.  Prove internet email all good.
2.  Change the name of a user in LDAP.  Say 'Donny Jones" --> "Don Jones".    Log in as admin in webcit, go to 'edit users', and call up the user and make the changes.  Donny -> Don.   No email address change.  Visit the mail folder, send mail from the account, all good.
3. Now, attempt to send email to the unchanged email address.
4. Watch webcit reply 'invalid recipient' using 'Donny', which of course is invalid having just been changed to Don.
What to do??
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3372671Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:58:06 +05003372671@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3372181Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:16:42 +05003372181@Uncensored

Hi! I try to install Citadel on FreeBSD 9.0 using EasyInstall. It rises this error with the missing separator. I know that you know this problem :) But your solution seams not to be, ahm, complete.
 If you get an error 'Makefile: missing separator' then try using instead of 'make'. Get in touch if you have trouble;
Can someone help? Thanks in advance.
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3371640Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:45:52 +05003371640@Uncensored     If I telnet from Linux or Windows it works fine, but if I  
 >telnet from a Mac it immediately disconnects.  Others who have tried  
  
 For some stupid reason, Mac OS attempts a Kerberized telnet by default. 
You have to disable that; I believe the correct incantation is "telnet -k
" but check your man page to be sure. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3371584Sun, 16 Dec 2012 07:48:21 +05003371584@Uncensored

Also I think it would be helpful to add the word "Contacts" to the title, that way it'll show up when ppl run a search.  That was the main keyword I was typing in when searching for a solution.
Maybe something like:
 
"Webcit doesn't open the addressbook / contacts popup"

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3371579Sun, 16 Dec 2012 07:29:11 +05003371579@Uncensored

oops! sorry for the all caps, definitely not yelling lol
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3371496Sun, 16 Dec 2012 07:26:06 +05003371496@Uncensored

CHECKED OUT THE FAQ, LOOKS GOOD AND THAT WAS THE PROCEDURE I FOLLOWED TO REMEDY THE ISSUE
=)

Wed Dec 12 2012 18:18:03 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

i've added a faq here:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:troubleshooting:webcit_doesnt_open_the.addressbook_popup
please checkout whether the procedure is the one you followed.
 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3371411Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:49:47 +05003371411@Uncensored

When you click "customize this menu" at the bottom of the sidebar in WebCit, one option reads:
Site logo
An icon describing this site
a) If this is enabled, is it supposed to actually show anywhere?  I don't see it.
b) How, as an administrator, do I set this site logo?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3371262Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:36:38 +05003371262@Uncensored

 

Wed Dec 12 2012 02:22:32 AM ESTfrom dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Message with cc: and reply to all missing the cc: recipients

yes, its known. I wasn't aware it already exists in stable..

 

Not to be too much of a pain for someone who is riding this bus for free, but would it be possible to slip this in to the easy_install build?  The natives on the system (at home) are anoyed at me for the time being having to remember to cut and paste instead of the allmighty repy-all button.
If it is already in queasy install I will give that a shot (assuming it is semi baked).

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3371157Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:59:50 +05003371157@Uncensored

     I've setup a Citadel under CentOS 6.3 (on a virtual host), citadel.eskimo.com.  The web is working fine, listens to port 8080, but the telnet is weird.
     If I telnet from Linux or Windows it works fine, but if I telnet from a Mac it immediately disconnects.  Others who have tried it from a Mac get the same thing, immediate disconnect.  I use the exact same telnet daemon on other machines and when it's not going into Citadel, that works fine from a Mac, so not the telnet daemon causing the problem.  So what is different about the Mac telnet client that Citadel doesn't like?
     Are there any workarounds?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3370710Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:04:55 +05003370710@Uncensored

I have taken to using fetchmail to download and archive the mail to keep it under that limit myself.  Not a formal fix, but does let you see mail again in Webcit after you cross that limit.  I guess I am a mail pack-rat.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3370570Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:16:19 +05003370570@Uncensored

Webcit doesn't show recent messages when there is a big bunch (11,871) of them in Mail room.
Exists some way to tweak Webcit to show the most recent messages but no the very old? (I feel that is more correct see the new messages instead the old ones; maybe the old messages were readed)

To work around this, using IMAP I made folders for each year to move the messages to each room.
My current Citadel/WebCit version are:
Citadel 8.14 with WebCit 8.14, server build 8.14
In debian squeeze 6.0.6; Linux <host> 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 10:07:46 UTC 2012 x86_64

Regards
 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3370453Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:42:24 +05003370453@Uncensored

Looks fine.
It feels good to help each other! ;)
 

Wed Dec 12 2012 06:18:03 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

i've added a faq here:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:troubleshooting:webcit_doesnt_open_the.addressbook_popup
please checkout whether the procedure is the one you followed.

Mon Dec 10 2012 14:19:24 EST from JAY @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! WE DO HAVE ADBLOCK PLUS ON THESE COMPUTERS, I WILL GIVE IT A TRY, I NEVER THOUGHT TO THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE ISSUE
 

Mon Dec 10 2012 13:04:08 EST from s3cr3to @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

I got the same behaviour but in my case "AdBlock Plus" is the issue.
After clic on: "Disable on <your citadel server>" I can see the contacts.
Try disabling "temporaly" your adons in the browser (and enable one by one until you find the one)
Hope this info help you. Regards


 


 


 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3370326Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:50:14 +05003370326@Uncensored

 


it doesn't work without.
While comments might not always be understandeable by everyone... its simply a must.
Show them blame anotated source views why its so important to have reasonable commit comments.




Agreed.  Have worked in other shops back in the day (way back in the days of CVS and the old Cederqvist Manual) and know better.   A bit off topic, so I will end with a congratulations that your development process is a bit more mature :-)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3370132Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:20:49 +05003370132@Uncensored

 

Wed Dec 12 2012 08:17:42 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Message with cc: and reply to all missing the cc: recipients

Thanks, thought I might have something else going on locally - i.e. db corruption.  Good to know it is not that anyway.
It looks like there are comments in the Git repo!  If only I could teach my coworkers to do the same.
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a40bef83342b4519b9231ce67ad92eaef537574




it doesn't work without.
While comments might not always be understandeable by everyone... its simply a must.
Show them blame anotated source views why its so important to have reasonable commit comments.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3370051Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:18:03 +05003370051@Uncensored

i've added a faq here:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:troubleshooting:webcit_doesnt_open_the.addressbook_popup
please checkout whether the procedure is the one you followed.

Mon Dec 10 2012 14:19:24 EST from JAY @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! WE DO HAVE ADBLOCK PLUS ON THESE COMPUTERS, I WILL GIVE IT A TRY, I NEVER THOUGHT TO THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE ISSUE
 

Mon Dec 10 2012 13:04:08 EST from s3cr3to @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

I got the same behaviour but in my case "AdBlock Plus" is the issue.
After clic on: "Disable on <your citadel server>" I can see the contacts.
Try disabling "temporaly" your adons in the browser (and enable one by one until you find the one)
Hope this info help you. Regards
 




 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3369780Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:17:42 +05003369780@Uncensored

Thanks, thought I might have something else going on locally - i.e. db corruption.  Good to know it is not that anyway.
It looks like there are comments in the Git repo!  If only I could teach my coworkers to do the same.
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a40bef83342b4519b9231ce67ad92eaef537574

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3369621Wed, 12 Dec 2012 02:22:32 +05003369621@Uncensored

yes, its known. I wasn't aware it already exists in stable..

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3369513Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:36:52 +05003369513@Uncensored

I am an easy_install user running :
Citadel 8.15 with WebCit 8.15, server build 8.15 
and since the update I did on the 12/5, I seem to not be able to get the reply to all to work as expected.  When I get an email in my inbox that has at least 1 cc: address, and I hit reply to all, only the to: line gets populated.
Suppose I can give the easy_install another go to see if that fixes things, but thought I would ask here in case that was / wasn't a known issue.
Thanks,
ax25 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3369190Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:40:21 +05003369190@Uncensored

heh, thanks for the solution.
elegant way to shoot yourselves into the foot.
 

Mon Dec 10 2012 14:19:24 EST from JAY @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! WE DO HAVE ADBLOCK PLUS ON THESE COMPUTERS, I WILL GIVE IT A TRY, I NEVER THOUGHT TO THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE ISSUE
 

Mon Dec 10 2012 13:04:08 EST from s3cr3to @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

I got the same behaviour but in my case "AdBlock Plus" is the issue.
After clic on: "Disable on <your citadel server>" I can see the contacts.
Try disabling "temporaly" your adons in the browser (and enable one by one until you find the one)
Hope this info help you. Regards
 




 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368983Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:26:31 +05003368983@Uncensored

well adblock plus was the issue, i disabled it just for our citadel
thank you to everyone for all your help =)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368895Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:19:24 +05003368895@Uncensored

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! WE DO HAVE ADBLOCK PLUS ON THESE COMPUTERS, I WILL GIVE IT A TRY, I NEVER THOUGHT TO THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE ISSUE
 

Mon Dec 10 2012 13:04:08 EST from s3cr3to @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

I got the same behaviour but in my case "AdBlock Plus" is the issue.
After clic on: "Disable on <your citadel server>" I can see the contacts.
Try disabling "temporaly" your adons in the browser (and enable one by one until you find the one)
Hope this info help you. Regards
 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368795Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:04:08 +05003368795@Uncensored

I got the same behaviour but in my case "AdBlock Plus" is the issue.
After clic on: "Disable on <your citadel server>" I can see the contacts.
Try disabling "temporaly" your adons in the browser (and enable one by one until you find the one)
Hope this info help you. Regards
 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368696Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:45:18 +05003368696@Uncensored

i should've put these pics up from the start, sorry
 
this is the contacts list that should be showing:

 
this is what's happening at some stations:
 


]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368607Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:15:54 +05003368607@Uncensored

awesome! i think we might be getting somewhere.  I went to a computer station where the CONTACTS box is working properly and it does show the code you mentioned:
GET http://192.168.1.169:2000/display_address_book_m...p_id|To:|cc_id|CC:|bcc_id|BCC:&r=848107973663975 200 OK 16ms prototype.js (line 1528)
 
on the computer station where the CONTACTS box is not working properly, it does not show that at all
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368520Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:37:59 +05003368520@Uncensored

the sslg is the polling mechanism.
you should see something like this happening when you click the addressbook:
https://www.xxx.org/webcit/display_address_book_middle_div?target_input=recp_id|An:|cc_id|CC:|bcc_id|BCC:&r=307440612403105

Mon Dec 10 2012 09:16:37 EST from JAY @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

RE: CONTACTS NOT SHOWING WHEN WRITING MAIL

Thu Nov 29 2012 16:10:54 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

since the javascript should load the popup from the server, do you see any request in the network panel of firebug if you click it?
 







WHEN TRYING TO OPEN THE CONTACTS WINDOW UNDER WRITE MAIL IN CITADEL THIS IS THE CODE THAT SHOWS UP (IT KEEPS REPEATING EVERY FEW SECONDS):

GET http://192.168.1.169:2000/sslg?4556738668283506
    
200 OK
        10ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)
    
200 OK
        14ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)
GET http://192.168.1.169:2000/sslg?475418867474067
    
200 OK
        15ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)
GET http://192.168.1.169:2000/sslg?2051290950821458
    
200 OK
        10ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368431Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:16:37 +05003368431@Uncensored

RE: CONTACTS NOT SHOWING WHEN WRITING MAIL

Thu Nov 29 2012 16:10:54 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Networking? Bug? Idiot User?

since the javascript should load the popup from the server, do you see any request in the network panel of firebug if you click it?
 







WHEN TRYING TO OPEN THE CONTACTS WINDOW UNDER WRITE MAIL IN CITADEL THIS IS THE CODE THAT SHOWS UP (IT KEEPS REPEATING EVERY FEW SECONDS):

GET http://192.168.1.169:2000/sslg?4556738668283506
    
200 OK
        10ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)
    
200 OK
        14ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)
GET http://192.168.1.169:2000/sslg?475418867474067
    
200 OK
        15ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)
GET http://192.168.1.169:2000/sslg?2051290950821458
    
200 OK
        10ms    
prototype.js (line 1528)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3368094Sat, 08 Dec 2012 04:16:28 +05003368094@Uncensored

can you grep a session of such an incident from the logs?
lines should look like this:
citserver[28869]: [1][willi(10)] NOOP
(me being willi as login user)

Fri Dec 07 2012 15:42:18 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Fw: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Anybody got an idea why all mail folders are listing the lobby contents instead of the mails in webcit?
 
 
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Nov 22 2012 04:23:32 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

This is what I get, no matter how many messages are in the inbox or other mail folders (tried it with different users):
{ "nummsgs": 0, "startmsg": 0, "roomname": "Lobby", "msgs": [ ] }

It's always listing the Lobby (which has no messages) instead of the selected mail folders.
So now I put a message in the Lobby and right, no matter what mail folder I select, I always get the Lobby listed instead:


{ "nummsgs": 1, "startmsg": 0, "roomname": "Lobby", "msgs": [ [12723,"Lobby test","bjoern",1353575985,"10:19",false ]  ] } 





Tue Nov 13 2012 02:17:04 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

have a look at the console tab, enable it, search for
https://...webcit/roommsgs?room=Mail&startmsg=0&stopmsg=-1
if you press 'refresh message list' the call should be sent.
You probably will find some debug output, and most probably also a warning about invalid json.

Mon Nov 12 2012 18:17:13 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Thanks for the reply, dothebart.
just any of my mail folders shows empty on webcit. I get the header line with "Subject Sender Date" (my interface is german, maybe those terms are a little different), below I have an empty message list on a white background and the message preview is empty on a light grey background. If I click somewhere in the empty message list, the message preview background turns to medium blue.
All other Rooms like calendar, tasks etc just show correct.
Using firebug, I couldnt find the json list.
 

Tue Oct 30 2012 13:02:53 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

can you have a look at the json list using firebug?
maybe we have a format problem here.
if i.e. there is broken UTF-8 browsers reject that list -> it shows empty.
The usual way to find out is then, to use tbird and move half of the mails in another folder to find out which message subject / sender is actualy causing the problem.
If you then send me the raw data of that mail I can have a deeper look at the actual problem.

Tue Oct 30 2012 06:23:03 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Anybody got an idea on this?
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Sep 27 2012 18:10:01 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?




 




 




 




 




 




 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3367904Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:42:18 +05003367904@Uncensored

Anybody got an idea why all mail folders are listing the lobby contents instead of the mails in webcit?
 
 
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Nov 22 2012 04:23:32 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

This is what I get, no matter how many messages are in the inbox or other mail folders (tried it with different users):
{ "nummsgs": 0, "startmsg": 0, "roomname": "Lobby", "msgs": [ ] }

It's always listing the Lobby (which has no messages) instead of the selected mail folders.
So now I put a message in the Lobby and right, no matter what mail folder I select, I always get the Lobby listed instead:


{ "nummsgs": 1, "startmsg": 0, "roomname": "Lobby", "msgs": [ [12723,"Lobby test","bjoern",1353575985,"10:19",false ]  ] } 





Tue Nov 13 2012 02:17:04 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

have a look at the console tab, enable it, search for
https://...webcit/roommsgs?room=Mail&startmsg=0&stopmsg=-1
if you press 'refresh message list' the call should be sent.
You probably will find some debug output, and most probably also a warning about invalid json.

Mon Nov 12 2012 18:17:13 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Thanks for the reply, dothebart.
just any of my mail folders shows empty on webcit. I get the header line with "Subject Sender Date" (my interface is german, maybe those terms are a little different), below I have an empty message list on a white background and the message preview is empty on a light grey background. If I click somewhere in the empty message list, the message preview background turns to medium blue.
All other Rooms like calendar, tasks etc just show correct.
Using firebug, I couldnt find the json list.
 

Tue Oct 30 2012 13:02:53 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

can you have a look at the json list using firebug?
maybe we have a format problem here.
if i.e. there is broken UTF-8 browsers reject that list -> it shows empty.
The usual way to find out is then, to use tbird and move half of the mails in another folder to find out which message subject / sender is actualy causing the problem.
If you then send me the raw data of that mail I can have a deeper look at the actual problem.

Tue Oct 30 2012 06:23:03 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Anybody got an idea on this?
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Sep 27 2012 18:10:01 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?




 




 




 




 




 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3367700Fri, 07 Dec 2012 02:10:50 +05003367700@Uncensored

right now you're in citadel support, where there already has been an answer to your question.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3367598Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:48:31 +05003367598@Uncensored

Ok.  I'm still very confuse on where to post.  So am I still at the Citadel support room now?  Thanks for the input and pardon my noob again.. :-(

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3367516Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:43:27 +05003367516@Uncensored

Sorry.  Posting on the wrong lobby.  I wish I can delete it..  My bad....

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3367280Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:25:30 +05003367280@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3367260Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:00:21 +05003367260@Uncensored

Sorry I meant to say the email address "From" somehow got change to user1@citadel.mydomain.com.  Very strange.  

Thu Dec 06 2012 16:58:31 EST from Le Dude  Subject: Strange issue with using external email client

Hi all.
 
Out of curiosity.  I created an account in my citadel with this address:  user1@server2.mydomain.com and the name of the citadel server is citadel.mydomain.com.  However, when I use the email client from external apps such as sugarcrm to send a communication email to my community, the email server from somehow got change to become user1@server2.mydomain.com.  I'm not sure whether this is a feature of Citadel or issue with SugarCRM.  I would lean to the first one because when I tested the Sugarcrm to connect to different email server, the above unwanted feature doesn't happen.  Can anyone advise me on this confusion?  Many thanks.
 
 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3367259Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:58:31 +05003367259@Uncensored

Hi all.
 
Out of curiosity.  I created an account in my citadel with this address:  user1@server2.mydomain.com and the name of the citadel server is citadel.mydomain.com.  However, when I use the email client from external apps such as sugarcrm to send a communication email to my community, the email server from somehow got change to become user1@server2.mydomain.com.  I'm not sure whether this is a feature of Citadel or issue with SugarCRM.  I would lean to the first one because when I tested the Sugarcrm to connect to different email server, the above unwanted feature doesn't happen.  Can anyone advise me on this confusion?  Many thanks.
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3366850Wed, 05 Dec 2012 04:51:34 +05003366850@Uncensored

 

Wed Dec 05 2012 02:17:10 EST from Le Dude @ Uncensored  Subject: Strange question

I'm not sure whether this is related to Citadel but I'm having very strange problem.  I have my email all goes to user1@machine1.mydomain.com but when the mail was sent out, it was sent under user1@machine2.mydomain.com.  Can someone please help me confirm whether this is issue with email server or apps server.  The apps server I'm using is sugarcrm.  Many thanks.
Ledude




/var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog and tcpdump are  your friends.
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3366740Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:17:10 +05003366740@Uncensored

I'm not sure whether this is related to Citadel but I'm having very strange problem.  I have my email all goes to user1@machine1.mydomain.com but when the mail was sent out, it was sent under user1@machine2.mydomain.com.  Can someone please help me confirm whether this is issue with email server or apps server.  The apps server I'm using is sugarcrm.  Many thanks.
Ledude

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3366175Mon, 03 Dec 2012 04:46:28 +05003366175@Uncensored

another thin you could try is to get citadel/webcit out of the game and use netcat instead:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#netcat
make it bind some port, and try to connect it.
to get a little deeper understanding whats going on, try sniffing it, and find out who is sending you the no route to host: (thats done via icmp...)
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365962Sun, 02 Dec 2012 10:37:58 +05003365962@Uncensored 
> 1. I *KNOW* I haven't changed the stock configuration. I don't even know
> where the config file IS, even if I did want to change it.

The config files are where all fedora service config files are: /etc/sysconfig
/etc/sysconfig/citadel
/etc/sysconfig/webcit

And stock configuration binds to 127.0.0.1:2000.
 
[ ... ].
> 
> 4. I *KNOW* netstat shows webcit as listening on 2000 and not 80.

Then you should also *KNOW* that it is listening on IP 127.0.0.1 which 
resolves to localhost.
 
[...]
> 
> There's the facts. There's no guessing there. I'll take a look at the site
> you mentioned and also whether selinux could be one of the culprits.

selinux may cause problems. Install citadel-selinux, too.

Regards
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365873Sun, 02 Dec 2012 10:27:42 +05003365873@Uncensored

 

Sun Dec 02 2012 09:41:16 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fedora: Can't access Webcit remotely

 

Sun Dec 02 2012 09:31:05 EST from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fedora: Can't access Webcit remotely

 

Sun Dec 02 2012 09:19:35 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fedora: Can't access Webcit remotely

guessing isn't knowing ;)
try to find out.
next you're gonna have to start looking at stuff like iptables, the 'ip' command, and maybe selinux.
lartc.org has nice howtos about iptables & friends, i'd recommend working through it.




The only thing I have done is done a MIGR import from my previous installation, which should have kept my config and my data. So, if anything, everything should be the same, including the server listening ports. I wonder if it's because I've switched from Ubuntu to Fedora on the server? I'm going to switch it back to Ubuntu and see.




you shouldn't do guesswork, you should know.
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:ps#checking.what.services.are.running




 
1. I KNOW I haven't changed the stock configuration. I don't even know where the config file IS, even if I did want to change it.
2. I KNOW I have imported the data from my previous installation and the import was successful - no errors
3. I KNOW I have installed the citadel, webcit and webcits services, and enabled them successfully.
4. I KNOW netstat shows webcit as listening on 2000 and not 80.
5. I KNOW that telnetting into localhost on the server on port 2000 works, as does going to http://localhost:2000 in a browser on the server
6. I KNOW that telnetting into the server on port 2000 from another machine on the local network (i.e. not going through the router) DOESN'T work. Neither does going to http://serverip:2000
7. I KNOW that I have opened the system firewall's port 2000 on the server, but the traffic isn't getting through. I have confirmed that with three different applications (GUI, lokkit and setup)
8. I KNOW that the firewall on the remote machine doesn't block outbound traffic, as it is able to successfully get through the IMAP port of the server.
9. I KNOW I am connecting to the right IP -- there's only two machines on my network, and ifconfig confirms the IP of the server I need to connect to.
 
There's the facts. There's no guessing there. I'll take a look at the site you mentioned and also whether selinux could be one of the culprits.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365777Sun, 02 Dec 2012 09:41:16 +05003365777@Uncensored

 

Sun Dec 02 2012 09:31:05 EST from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fedora: Can't access Webcit remotely

 

Sun Dec 02 2012 09:19:35 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fedora: Can't access Webcit remotely

guessing isn't knowing ;)
try to find out.
next you're gonna have to start looking at stuff like iptables, the 'ip' command, and maybe selinux.
lartc.org has nice howtos about iptables & friends, i'd recommend working through it.




The only thing I have done is done a MIGR import from my previous installation, which should have kept my config and my data. So, if anything, everything should be the same, including the server listening ports. I wonder if it's because I've switched from Ubuntu to Fedora on the server? I'm going to switch it back to Ubuntu and see.




you shouldn't do guesswork, you should know.
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:ps#checking.what.services.are.running

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365689Sun, 02 Dec 2012 09:31:05 +05003365689@Uncensored

 

Sun Dec 02 2012 09:19:35 AM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fedora: Can't access Webcit remotely

guessing isn't knowing ;)
try to find out.
next you're gonna have to start looking at stuff like iptables, the 'ip' command, and maybe selinux.
lartc.org has nice howtos about iptables & friends, i'd recommend working through it.




The only thing I have done is done a MIGR import from my previous installation, which should have kept my config and my data. So, if anything, everything should be the same, including the server listening ports. I wonder if it's because I've switched from Ubuntu to Fedora on the server? I'm going to switch it back to Ubuntu and see.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365601Sun, 02 Dec 2012 09:19:35 +05003365601@Uncensored

guessing isn't knowing ;)
try to find out.
next you're gonna have to start looking at stuff like iptables, the 'ip' command, and maybe selinux.
lartc.org has nice howtos about iptables & friends, i'd recommend working through it.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365499Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:07:31 +05003365499@Uncensored

I would guess so -- I haven't changed anything since the original installation.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365411Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:04:36 +05003365411@Uncensored

which ip is it binding? 0.0.0.0 ?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365315Sun, 02 Dec 2012 05:49:29 +05003365315@Uncensored

I agree with the Connection Refused messsage. But the strange thing is, both

telnet 192.168.0.10 80

and

telnet 192.168.0.10 2000

Gives me "No Route To Host" when connecting from a different machine.

ifconfig

On the server confirms IP is 192.168.0.10, which means I'm trying to connect to the correct IP.

telnet localhost 2000

on the server results in a successfully connection, and

telnet 192.168.0.10 143

Succeeds from the remote machine, which means the router does know how to connect to the server. Webcit and Citserver are both running and I did restart the services to make sure.
 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365145Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:40:06 +05003365145@Uncensored

 

Sat Dec 01 2012 10:57:47 EST from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: Fedora: Can't access Webcit remotely

I''ve setup the services successfully and I can access the Webcit site but it is located not at http://localhost, but at http://localhost:2000 and I can't seem to successfully open that port to the world to allow me to access my mail remotely. Not such a problem considering I can still access it via IMAP, but would be nice to know why I can't access the interface.
I have use the Fedora firewall applet and the lokkit command line tool to try to open port 2000 for both udp and tcp protocols, but I still get "No Route to Host" when trying to telnet into it from a remote machine (another machine on the same network.)
Is 2000 the correct port I should be accessing? Webcit doesn't appear to be listening on port 80 or 443. Is the 2000 the default? Can I change it?
Regards
Jian




have a look at
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking
and
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:ps#checking.what.services.are.running
the ports which webcit binds are configured via its commandline params:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:cmdman:webcit
'no route to host' is usually not the message for firewalled or unreachable services - that 'd be 'connection refused'
The first rather means that there is no host with such an ip in your network, or the host you configured as router doesn't know howto reach it.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3365045Sat, 01 Dec 2012 10:57:47 +05003365045@Uncensored

I''ve setup the services successfully and I can access the Webcit site but it is located not at http://localhost, but at http://localhost:2000 and I can't seem to successfully open that port to the world to allow me to access my mail remotely. Not such a problem considering I can still access it via IMAP, but would be nice to know why I can't access the interface.
I have use the Fedora firewall applet and the lokkit command line tool to try to open port 2000 for both udp and tcp protocols, but I still get "No Route to Host" when trying to telnet into it from a remote machine (another machine on the same network.)
Is 2000 the correct port I should be accessing? Webcit doesn't appear to be listening on port 80 or 443. Is the 2000 the default? Can I change it?
Regards
Jian
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3364627Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:10:54 +05003364627@Uncensored

since the javascript should load the popup from the server, do you see any request in the network panel of firebug if you click it?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3364508Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:38:47 +05003364508@Uncensored

yes, the users are using webcit.  I'm using Firebug to open the script and I don't see any errors listed for the "write mail" page w/ the "contacts" open.
 
the javascript for the contacts box:
 
javascript:PopOpenAddressBook('recp-id|To:|cc_id|CC:|bcc_id|BCC:');

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3364403Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:05:26 +05003364403@Uncensored

your users are using webcit? do you see any errors in the browsers javascript console?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3364311Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:01:06 +05003364311@Uncensored

THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE, I'M REPLYING FOR TRACY
 
You are connected to Citadel Server, running Citadel 8.13 with WebCit 8.12, server build 8.13 and located in . Your system administrator is Tracy

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3364053Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:06:55 +05003364053@Uncensored

which version of citadel? (see the summary in webcit)
which clients are you using? webcit? thunderbird? kmail?
if webcit, try to have a look at the webbrowser error console.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3363885Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:01:52 +05003363885@Uncensored

My  IT guy quit so I'm having to learn the Citadel system on my own.   I have a basic question.   I have about 12 workstations set up with Citadel but 3 of them aren't opening the Contacts in the write mail.   How do I fix that?
 
Thanks 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3363789Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:48:37 +05003363789@Uncensored

My  IT guy quit so I'm having to learn the Citadel system on my own.   I have a basic question.   I have about 12 workstations set up with Citadel but 3 of them aren't opening the Contacts in the write mail.   How do I fix that?
 
Thanks 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3363090Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:26:49 +05003363090@Uncensored

see http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:customize_webcit#customizing.webcit for details on howto customize webcit.

Tue Nov 27 2012 14:54:24 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

 
BTW: Is there a way to change the logo / graphics displayed by the browser?
HrY


 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3362995Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:24:05 +05003362995@Uncensored

 

Tue Nov 27 2012 06:35:39 EST from Robert @ Uncensored  Subject: French Translate

Hello !
 i finished the french translation, and in order to make shure that the job has been well done, i would like to test it. And i saw that :

test-driving your translation Its always a good idea to test your translation so you can see how webcit combines some of your words and correct possible grammer errors; The calendaring section (and the editor) most probably is the most important section to inspect. edit webcit/gettext.c, search for AvailLang and add yours, recompile and restart webcit to view your work upload your po file to launchpad (if they're not already there) and anounce them on Uncensored!

but i have no gettext.c file in my debian and i don't know how to recompile webcit
 thank you for your help! 




Robert, I've resync'ed launchpad with our git master repo.
see http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:sourcecode
howto obtain a recent source tree.
see http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:debian?&#tobuildfromsource
howto compile from git.
if you still have problems doing that, let me know.
thank you for your contribution ;-)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3362688Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:54:24 +05003362688@Uncensored

 
Hi Stefan,
Deine Infos waren es. You directed me to the right point: There was a "127.0.0.1" in the /etc/sysconfig/webcit where ther should be (as of the comment) a "0.0.0.0" - changed it - restarted services and bingo!
Thanks a lot to all the contributers - learning more and more :-)
 
 
BTW: Is there a way to change the logo / graphics displayed by the browser?
HrY

Tue Nov 27 2012 04:11:46 EST from "Stefan Jakobs" <stefan@localside.net>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI
Hi,
 
 first of all you have to execute /usr/sbin/citadel-setup to initialize the 
 database and set an admin password. Don't let setup create an init/rc start 
 script, it won't work.
 
 Then adjust the settings in /etc/sysconfig/citadel and /etc/sysconfig/webcit 
 to your needs (set the port numbers, log facility, ...). If you change 
 anything in these files you have to restart citadel and/or webcit (systemctl 
 restart citadel.service; systemctl restart webcit.service; systemctl restart 
 webcits.service)
 
 Check with netstat -ntlp if all ports are bind correctly. Try to connect via 
 browser or citadel client.
 
 Your error:

webcit[13743]: Attempting to bind to port 2000...
 
Check with netstat -ntlp which program binds port 2000 and change its 
 configuration or set WEBCIT_HTTP_PORT in /etc/sysconfig/webcit to a different 
 port.
 
 Regards
 Stefan
 
 
 Am Dienstag, 27. November 2012, 08:56:57 schrieben Sie:

telnet on "headless":504
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 200 vortexbox Citadel server ready.
 
 telnet on "headless":2000
 
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 HTTP/1.1 404 Not found
 Content-Type: text/plain
 Content-length: 11
 
 
 
 Hmm the setup(s) - at least it has catched the right IP me thinks...
 
 But I didn't get a setup. In which dir(s) are the scripts or should they be?
 I see some configs in several /var ... /etc/...
 
 There is a "citadel" in /usr/bin -- which seems to be a console-client
 
 /usr/lib/citadel
 
 RAN /usr/sbin/ci


 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3362415Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:35:39 +05003362415@Uncensored

Hello !
 i finished the french translation, and in order to make shure that the job has been well done, i would like to test it. And i saw that :

test-driving your translation Its always a good idea to test your translation so you can see how webcit combines some of your words and correct possible grammer errors; The calendaring section (and the editor) most probably is the most important section to inspect. edit webcit/gettext.c, search for AvailLang and add yours, recompile and restart webcit to view your work upload your po file to launchpad (if they're not already there) and anounce them on Uncensored!

but i have no gettext.c file in my debian and i don't know how to recompile webcit
 thank you for your help! 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3362378Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:25:32 +05003362378@Uncensored

 

Tue Nov 27 2012 02:56:57 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

 
telnet on "headless":504
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 vortexbox Citadel server ready.
telnet on "headless":2000
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
HTTP/1.1 404 Not found
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-length: 11
 
Hmm the setup(s) - at least it has catched the right IP me thinks...
But I didn't get a setup. In which dir(s) are the scripts or should they be? I see some configs in several /var ... /etc/...
There is  a "citadel" in /usr/bin -- which seems to  be a console-client
/usr/lib/citadel
RAN /usr/sbin/citadel-setup answered the Q.'s service restarted
 



So citadel is bound to port 504. When you ran setup, did you keep the default Server IP Address of 0.0.0.0 (all), or did you change it? If you changed it, put it back to 0.0.0.0 and test it. If that does not work, and you can still telnet to 504 from the same machine (running Citadel), then something (like a firewall) is blocking connections. Since you're running on Fedora, try 'service iptables stop' and see if you can connect. If you successfully connect (from another machine), then you need to open the ports in your iptables rules.
And yes, you need to restart webcit if you make changes, not just start it. It will still be bound to the port until it exits.
-Thom

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3362264Tue, 27 Nov 2012 04:11:46 +05003362264@Uncensored webcit[13743]: Attempting to bind to port 2000...

Check with netstat -ntlp which program binds port 2000 and change its 
configuration or set WEBCIT_HTTP_PORT in /etc/sysconfig/webcit to a different 
port.

Regards
Stefan


Am Dienstag, 27. November 2012, 08:56:57 schrieben Sie:
> telnet on "headless":504
> 
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 200 vortexbox Citadel server ready.
> 
> telnet on "headless":2000
> 
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> HTTP/1.1 404 Not found
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Content-length: 11
> 
>  
> 
> Hmm the setup(s) - at least it has catched the right IP me thinks...
> 
> But I didn't get a setup. In which dir(s) are the scripts or should they be?
> I see some configs in several /var ... /etc/...
> 
> There is  a "citadel" in /usr/bin -- which seems to  be a console-client
> 
> /usr/lib/citadel
> 
> RAN /usr/sbin/citadel-setup answered the Q.'s service restarted
> 
> Tried to run webcit after that:
> 
> ]# webcit
> webcit[13743]: Changing directory to /var/run/webcit/
> webcit[13743]: WebCit 8.14
> webcit[13743]: Copyright (C) 1996-2012 by the citadel.org team
> webcit[13743]:
> webcit[13743]: This program is open source software: you can redistribute it
> and/or webcit[13743]: modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public
> License, version 3. webcit[13743]:
> webcit[13743]: This program is distributed in the hope that it will be
> useful, webcit[13743]: but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied
> warranty of webcit[13743]: MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> PURPOSE. See the webcit[13743]: GNU General Public License for more
> details.
> webcit[13743]:
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: C
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: bg_BG.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: cs_CZ.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: en_US.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: da_DK.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: de_DE.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: el_GR.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: en_GB.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: es_ES.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: et_EE.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: fi_FI.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: fr_FR.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: hu_HU.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: it_IT.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: nl_NL.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: pt_BR.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: ru_RU.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: zh_CN.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: he_IL.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: locale for kk_KK.UTF8 disabled: No such file or directory
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: ro_RO.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: locale for sl_SL.UTF8 disabled: No such file or directory
> webcit[13743]: Found locale: tr_TR.UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Text domain: webcit
> webcit[13743]: Text domain Charset: UTF8
> webcit[13743]: Message catalog directory: /usr/share/locale
> webcit[13743]: No Site-local Stylesheet
> [/usr/share/citadel-webcit/static.local//webcit.css] installed.
> webcit[13743]: Attempting to bind to port 2000...
> webcit[13743]: Can't bind: Die Adresse wird bereits verwendet
> 
>  
> 
> Do I have to stop the webcit(s) and rerun? 
> 
>  
> 
> Thanx in advance
> 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3362163Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:56:57 +05003362163@Uncensored

 
 
 
 

Mon Nov 26 2012 18:44:02 EST from desertrat @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

 

Mon Nov 26 2012 18:07:08 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

Hi!

Mon Nov 26 2012 17:11:06 EST from desertrat @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

 

Mon Nov 26 2012 15:11:13 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

Installed webcit: yum install webcit
daemons running:
webcit
webcits
citadel


By default, webcit binds to port 2000. It looked from your previous message you might be trying to use Opera to connect to port 504.

If citadel and webcit are running, try connecting your browser to port 2000.
I've been running Citadel from a remote, headless server for years now and it works great.




No go - tried 504 - 8504 - 2000
But I've found out: Can't connect either to
a local (Ubuntu/Mint) installation (apt-get citadel-suite)
nor
the appliance (virtualbox)
Maybe my basesystem has a "bug"?




Look in /var/log/messages and make sure citserver and webcit are able to bind to the required ports. If that's ok, make sure you don't have a firewall blocking those ports.

Can you telnet to port 504 and 2000 from the machine running the servers?
When you setup citadel and webcit, did you set the correct "Server IP address"? Did you run 'setup' at all from the citadel and webcit directories?
 




telnet on "headless":504
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 vortexbox Citadel server ready.
telnet on "headless":2000
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
HTTP/1.1 404 Not found
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-length: 11
 
Hmm the setup(s) - at least it has catched the right IP me thinks...
But I didn't get a setup. In which dir(s) are the scripts or should they be? I see some configs in several /var ... /etc/...
There is  a "citadel" in /usr/bin -- which seems to  be a console-client
/usr/lib/citadel
RAN /usr/sbin/citadel-setup answered the Q.'s service restarted
Tried to run webcit after that:
]# webcit
webcit[13743]: Changing directory to /var/run/webcit/
webcit[13743]: WebCit 8.14
webcit[13743]: Copyright (C) 1996-2012 by the citadel.org team
webcit[13743]: 
webcit[13743]: This program is open source software: you can redistribute it and/or
webcit[13743]: modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 3.
webcit[13743]: 
webcit[13743]: This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
webcit[13743]: but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
webcit[13743]: MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
webcit[13743]: GNU General Public License for more details.
webcit[13743]: 
webcit[13743]: Found locale: C
webcit[13743]: Found locale: bg_BG.UTF8
webcit[13743]: Found locale: cs_CZ.UTF8
webcit[13743]: Found locale: en_US.UTF8
webcit[13743]: Found locale: da_DK.UTF8
webcit[13743]: Found locale: de_DE.UTF8
webcit[13743]: Found locale:
 
Do I have to stop the webcit(s) and rerun? 
 
Thanx in advance
Harry
 





]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361551Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:44:02 +05003361551@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 26 2012 18:07:08 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

Hi!

Mon Nov 26 2012 17:11:06 EST from desertrat @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

 

Mon Nov 26 2012 15:11:13 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

Installed webcit: yum install webcit
daemons running:
webcit
webcits
citadel


By default, webcit binds to port 2000. It looked from your previous message you might be trying to use Opera to connect to port 504.

If citadel and webcit are running, try connecting your browser to port 2000.
I've been running Citadel from a remote, headless server for years now and it works great.




No go - tried 504 - 8504 - 2000
But I've found out: Can't connect either to
a local (Ubuntu/Mint) installation (apt-get citadel-suite)
nor
the appliance (virtualbox)
Maybe my basesystem has a "bug"?




Look in /var/log/messages and make sure citserver and webcit are able to bind to the required ports. If that's ok, make sure you don't have a firewall blocking those ports.

Can you telnet to port 504 and 2000 from the machine running the servers?
When you setup citadel and webcit, did you set the correct "Server IP address"? Did you run 'setup' at all from the citadel and webcit directories?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361535Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:07:08 +05003361535@Uncensored

Hi!

Mon Nov 26 2012 17:11:06 EST from desertrat @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

 

Mon Nov 26 2012 15:11:13 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

Installed webcit: yum install webcit
daemons running:
webcit
webcits
citadel


By default, webcit binds to port 2000. It looked from your previous message you might be trying to use Opera to connect to port 504.

If citadel and webcit are running, try connecting your browser to port 2000.
I've been running Citadel from a remote, headless server for years now and it works great.




No go - tried 504 - 8504 - 2000
But I've found out: Can't connect either to
a local (Ubuntu/Mint) installation (apt-get citadel-suite)
nor
the appliance (virtualbox)
Maybe my basesystem has a "bug"?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361522Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:11:06 +05003361522@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 26 2012 15:11:13 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

Installed webcit: yum install webcit
daemons running:
webcit
webcits
citadel


By default, webcit binds to port 2000. It looked from your previous message you might be trying to use Opera to connect to port 504.

If citadel and webcit are running, try connecting your browser to port 2000.
I've been running Citadel from a remote, headless server for years now and it works great.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361508Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:54:12 +05003361508@Uncensored

Yes it did  :-)  thank you !

Mon Nov 26 2012 15:09:21 EST from the_mgt  Subject: Re: French Translate

 

Mon Nov 26 2012 19:38:42 CET from Robert  Subject: French Translate

Hello everybody
 like i said last days, i worked on the translate, and i have one last translation to do :


 When sharing a room, it must be shared from both ends. Adding a node to the 'shared' list sends messages out, but in order to receive messages, the other nodes must be configured to send messages out to your system as well.

This sentence is not really clear for me, could anybody explain it in other words  ?


That sentence means that the sharing must be directional, you configure one way of the sharing on each node:
1. Node A configures sharing with node B
2. Node B configures sharing with node A
I hope that helps




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361491Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:21:44 +05003361491@Uncensored

Hmm, perl?
there is perl5 oon the fedora
Or another version conflict?
 
 
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361484Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:11:13 +05003361484@Uncensored

Installed webcit: yum install webcit
daemons running:
webcit
webcits
citadel

Mon Nov 26 2012 15:00:14 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Configure Citadel on a system w/o GUI

you need to install webcit too.
I don't know which name the rpm actualy has, in debian its citadel-webcit - it might be webcit in the rpms though.




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361483Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:09:21 +05003361483@Uncensored


	 

	

		Mon Nov 26 2012 19:38:42 CET from Robert  Subject: French Translate
	

		

			Hello everybody
		

			 like i said last days, i worked on the translate, and i have one last translation to do :
		

			

				

				When sharing a room, it must be shared from both ends. Adding a node to the 'shared' list sends messages out, but in order to receive messages, the other nodes must be configured to send messages out to your system as well.
		
		

			This sentence is not really clear for me, could anybody explain it in other words  ?
	


	That sentence means that the sharing must be directional, you configure one way of the sharing on each node:

	1. Node A configures sharing with node B

	2. Node B configures sharing with node A

	I hope that helps

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361475Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:00:14 +05003361475@Uncensored

you need to install webcit too.
I don't know which name the rpm actualy has, in debian its citadel-webcit - it might be webcit in the rpms though.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361469Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:48:29 +05003361469@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361464Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:46:47 +05003361464@Uncensored

 
Hi fellas!
As I wrote I managed to install Citadel  Webcit on my Fedora 16 32bit (vortexbox) via rpm, reboot, starting services etc checked. It looked to me that all dependencies were resolved. Connected to the host:504 and ... nothing ...
 
From Opera I get at least the following information:
200 vortexbox Citadel server ready.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
570 Agent: Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; Edition Linux Mint) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.11 not found.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
 
 
Which modules/package to check?
Further setup from terminal?
Other hints?
 
 
Harry 
 
 
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3361455Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:38:42 +05003361455@Uncensored

Hello everybody
 like i said last days, i worked on the translate, and i have one last translation to do :


When sharing a room, it must be shared from both ends. Adding a node to the 'shared' list sends messages out, but in order to receive messages, the other nodes must be configured to send messages out to your system as well.

This sentence is not really clear for me, could anybody explain it in other words  ?
 
And for testing i saw that informations :
edit webcit/gettext.c, search for AvailLang and add yours, recompile and restart webcit to view your work upload your po file to launchpad (if they're not already there) and anounce them on Uncensored!
but i have no idea what it mean with recompile and how to do it. could you help me for that so i can finish the french translate ?  :-)
 
thank you in advance for your help !

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3360947Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:38:58 +05003360947@Uncensored

 
Switched now to the "classic" rpm install. Installation went thru -but anotherr problem now - opening a new thread.
 
 
HrY 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3360641Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:17:57 +05003360641@Uncensored  
> 
>     Mon Nov 19 2012 03:33:36 EST from bluesky1234 @ Uncensored Subject:
>     Sync Kolab Problem
> 
>      
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     ein have made a new Installation of Citadel on Debian.
> 
>     On a Windows client a have installed Thunderbird 16.0.2 with Sync
>     Kolab and Lighning.
> 
>     Mail Sync with Thunderbird work, but after the configuration of Sync
>     Kolab and run Sync Kolab, the syncronisation hangs.
> 
>     It start with a message that some Objects are on the Server and ask
>     for syncronisation.
> 
>     But when i click on ok the Sync status bar will stand by 10% and
>     stand still.
> 
>     I have tried some different Version of Sync Kolab: The Versions from
>     Citadel are not compatible with Thunderbird 16.0.2.
> 
>     Have someone a Idea what can i do?
> 
>     Greeting Kai
> 
>  
> 
> can you watch synckolab doing its job using tcpdump/wireshark?
> 
> http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server
> 
> turn off ssl, and use a dummy pssword; if the problem is not obvious by
> looking at the dump, please share it with us.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3360488Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:23:32 +05003360488@Uncensored

This is what I get, no matter how many messages are in the inbox or other mail folders (tried it with different users):
{ "nummsgs": 0, "startmsg": 0, "roomname": "Lobby", "msgs": [ ] }

It's always listing the Lobby (which has no messages) instead of the selected mail folders.
So now I put a message in the Lobby and right, no matter what mail folder I select, I always get the Lobby listed instead:


{ "nummsgs": 1, "startmsg": 0, "roomname": "Lobby", "msgs": [ [12723,"Lobby test","bjoern",1353575985,"10:19",false ]  ] } 





Tue Nov 13 2012 02:17:04 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

have a look at the console tab, enable it, search for
https://...webcit/roommsgs?room=Mail&startmsg=0&stopmsg=-1
if you press 'refresh message list' the call should be sent.
You probably will find some debug output, and most probably also a warning about invalid json.

Mon Nov 12 2012 18:17:13 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Thanks for the reply, dothebart.
just any of my mail folders shows empty on webcit. I get the header line with "Subject Sender Date" (my interface is german, maybe those terms are a little different), below I have an empty message list on a white background and the message preview is empty on a light grey background. If I click somewhere in the empty message list, the message preview background turns to medium blue.
All other Rooms like calendar, tasks etc just show correct.
Using firebug, I couldnt find the json list.
 

Tue Oct 30 2012 13:02:53 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

can you have a look at the json list using firebug?
maybe we have a format problem here.
if i.e. there is broken UTF-8 browsers reject that list -> it shows empty.
The usual way to find out is then, to use tbird and move half of the mails in another folder to find out which message subject / sender is actualy causing the problem.
If you then send me the raw data of that mail I can have a deeper look at the actual problem.

Tue Oct 30 2012 06:23:03 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Anybody got an idea on this?
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Sep 27 2012 18:10:01 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?




 




 




 




 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3360380Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:07:52 +05003360380@Uncensored

the easy install script is not involved into this situation.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3360267Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:35:48 +05003360267@Uncensored

Hi,
 
I am not BSD/Linux expert but it seems that in "install" script this code is responsible:
[...]
INCADD=
LDADD=

case `uname -s` in
        *BSD)
                LDADD="-L /usr/local/lib"
                INCADD="-I /usr/local/include"
        ;;
esac


[...]
 
 

Sun Sep 02 2012 19:57:05 EDT from Nurb432 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x

 

Sun Sep 02 2012 12:39:19 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x


Sun Sep 02 2012 11:24:53 EDT from Nurb432 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x

I have tried current citadel on current Freebsd ( within a bare jail ) using easyinstall and have run into road blocks.  After installing gmake, curl and perl as dependencies the following modules seem to install ok: libical, libsieve, Berkeley DB, expat, libev, c-ares.
It then fails on libcurl with "libtool: link: require no space between `-L' and `/usr/local/lib'". Once i figure out where this is and how to restart without downloading again, and thus blowing my changes away, im going to try editing the respective make file and remove the space.


the generally preferred way would be to create a port; like theres a portage for gentoo or rpms for suse/fedora/...
can you post a diff of your easy install script?




Once i get it working, i sure will.




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3360126Wed, 21 Nov 2012 06:35:09 +05003360126@Uncensored

I'm sorry, my MTA is postfix, so was postfix the limiter of the message size.
I had to change the option for the message size in /etc/postfix/main.cf:
#unlimited message size
message_size_limit = 0
 

Mon Nov 12 2012 11:31:22 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Error: message file too big



First, message size = attachment + headers + message text + anything else

in 


the message...and all of that is likely higher thant he 240 spare bites 




you've left between your 10MB file and the rest of the message. 

Second, when a file is attached, it is encoded...that encoding can cause

the 


attachment to be larger, in the form of the text that it has been encoded

as. 




My advice...make the attachment smaller (compress it or somesuch), or upload 




it to DropBox and email the recipient a link to the file, from which they

can 


download it, directly. 








Thanks for the answer, but does it mean, it doesn't work for big E-Mails
at 

all? At the moment I 've got no alternative for sending the big E-Mails 


directly. 

Depends on your definition of "big emails". However, it would help if you went into the Administration area, select "Edit Site-wide Configuration", go to the "Tuning" tab and look at "Maximum message length" field. Chances are that it's set to a number that's insufficient to your needs. 

That being said, changing that number to something high could cause your system or your network connection to become sluggish as it's passing large files around via email. Keep that in mind when you consider changing it. 


 

Mon Nov 12 2012 11:31:22 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Error: message file too big



First, message size = attachment + headers + message text + anything else

in 


the message...and all of that is likely higher thant he 240 spare bites 




you've left between your 10MB file and the rest of the message. 

Second, when a file is attached, it is encoded...that encoding can cause

the 


attachment to be larger, in the form of the text that it has been encoded

as. 




My advice...make the attachment smaller (compress it or somesuch), or upload 




it to DropBox and email the recipient a link to the file, from which they

can 


download it, directly. 








Thanks for the answer, but does it mean, it doesn't work for big E-Mails
at 

all? At the moment I 've got no alternative for sending the big E-Mails 


directly. 

Depends on your definition of "big emails". However, it would help if you went into the Administration area, select "Edit Site-wide Configuration", go to the "Tuning" tab and look at "Maximum message length" field. Chances are that it's set to a number that's insufficient to your needs. 

That being said, changing that number to something high could cause your system or your network connection to become sluggish as it's passing large files around via email. Keep that in mind when you consider changing it. 


 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359924Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:36:04 +05003359924@Uncensored

  Hi,
 GNU bash, Version 4.2.28(1)-release (i386-redhat-linux-gnu)
fedora 16
 
 
HrY 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359726Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:12:16 +05003359726@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 19 2012 03:33:36 EST from bluesky1234 @ Uncensored  Subject: Sync Kolab Problem

 
Hi,
ein have made a new Installation of Citadel on Debian.
On a Windows client a have installed Thunderbird 16.0.2 with Sync Kolab and Lighning.
Mail Sync with Thunderbird work, but after the configuration of Sync Kolab and run Sync Kolab, the syncronisation hangs.
It start with a message that some Objects are on the Server and ask for syncronisation.
But when i click on ok the Sync status bar will stand by 10% and stand still.
I have tried some different Version of Sync Kolab: The Versions from Citadel are not compatible with Thunderbird 16.0.2.
Have someone a Idea what can i do?
Greeting Kai


 
can you watch synckolab doing its job using tcpdump/wireshark?
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff#exploring.the.communication.from.your.citadel.server
turn off ssl, and use a dummy pssword; if the problem is not obvious by looking at the dump, please share it with us.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359633Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:02:37 +05003359633@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 19 2012 14:01:37 EST from hbilke @ Uncensored  Subject: Error during easy install

Hi 2 all!
During installation via easy-install (terminal, root user) I get the following:
omain ~]# curl http://easinstall.citadel.org/install|sh % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 3165 100 3165 0 0 4041 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 6098 sh: Zeile 1: Syntaxfehler beim unerwarteten Wort `newline' sh: Zeile 1: `'
the german words mean: Syntax error at unexpected word 
Where and/or how to fix it? 
Thanx in advance
HrY


which os are you using? whats sh on your os?
ls -l `which sh`


]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359219Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:03:22 +05003359219@Uncensored

oops there IS a <space pipe space> between install and sh :-)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359218Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:01:37 +05003359218@Uncensored

 
Hi 2 all!
 
 
During installation via easy-install (terminal, root user) I get the following:
 
 
omain ~]# curl http://easinstall.citadel.org/install|sh % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 3165 100 3165 0 0 4041 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 6098 sh: Zeile 1: Syntaxfehler beim unerwarteten Wort `newline' sh: Zeile 1: `'
the german words mean: Syntax error at unexpected word 
Where and/or how to fix it? 
Thanx in advance
HrY
 
 
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359209Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:09:05 +05003359209@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359207Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:48:03 +05003359207@Uncensored

Oh, why my Question is deleted?
Is this the wrong board?
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3359028Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:33:36 +05003359028@Uncensored

 
Hi,
ein have made a new Installation of Citadel on Debian.
On a Windows client a have installed Thunderbird 16.0.2 with Sync Kolab and Lighning.
Mail Sync with Thunderbird work, but after the configuration of Sync Kolab and run Sync Kolab, the syncronisation hangs.
It start with a message that some Objects are on the Server and ask for syncronisation.
But when i click on ok the Sync status bar will stand by 10% and stand still.
I have tried some different Version of Sync Kolab: The Versions from Citadel are not compatible with Thunderbird 16.0.2.
Have someone a Idea what can i do?
Greeting Kai
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3358870Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:35:57 +05003358870@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3358754Sun, 18 Nov 2012 06:49:51 +05003358754@Uncensored

Hi all,
 
Apologise if this has already been asked, I am in the process of setting up a small server and am using Virtualbox for the Email Exchange server. Now on the Citadel website it gives you 2 links for a complete package (including OS all setup) for VmWare and KVM. Is there a version for VirtualBox anywhere?
Or do i need to do seperate installs?
 
Cheers
Steve

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3357910Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:32:05 +05003357910@Uncensored


	I think I answered this twice already:

	If your login is henne.holly but you have specified "Henne" as name and "Holly" as surname in ldap, you will be able to log in to citadel with henne.holly.

	But you need to specify "Henne Holly" as admin name in citadel setup.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3357703Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:58:44 +05003357703@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3357482Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:10:15 +05003357482@Uncensored

My boss is receiving duplicates in his inbox...Only from other users on the Citadel sever...Any thoughts?
 
Thanks

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3357301Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:46:30 +05003357301@UncensoredHi All,

When I tried to run chat from Thunderbird it didn't ask me for certificate exception just like Pidgin for that I couldn't run chat from Thunderbird.

I tried to add certificate exception by Preferences -> Advanced ->
 Certificates -> View Certificates -> Add Exception.
I 
successfully inputed all the available locations (pop3, imap.. etc) but 
for chat server it didn't get the certificate and freezed at "Attempting
 to identify the site"

How can I fix this issue?
Is there any way for passing certificate exception?

PS
I know this is Thunderbird issue but I couldn't get any response from Thunderbird community so I ask you for help... sorry

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2615621&p=12476303#p12476303


-- 
Best Regards
Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi
My Blog: http://mbnoimi.net


]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3357176Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:17:04 +05003357176@Uncensored

have a look at the console tab, enable it, search for
https://...webcit/roommsgs?room=Mail&startmsg=0&stopmsg=-1
if you press 'refresh message list' the call should be sent.
You probably will find some debug output, and most probably also a warning about invalid json.

Mon Nov 12 2012 18:17:13 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Thanks for the reply, dothebart.
just any of my mail folders shows empty on webcit. I get the header line with "Subject Sender Date" (my interface is german, maybe those terms are a little different), below I have an empty message list on a white background and the message preview is empty on a light grey background. If I click somewhere in the empty message list, the message preview background turns to medium blue.
All other Rooms like calendar, tasks etc just show correct.
Using firebug, I couldnt find the json list.
 

Tue Oct 30 2012 13:02:53 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

can you have a look at the json list using firebug?
maybe we have a format problem here.
if i.e. there is broken UTF-8 browsers reject that list -> it shows empty.
The usual way to find out is then, to use tbird and move half of the mails in another folder to find out which message subject / sender is actualy causing the problem.
If you then send me the raw data of that mail I can have a deeper look at the actual problem.

Tue Oct 30 2012 06:23:03 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Anybody got an idea on this?
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Sep 27 2012 18:10:01 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?




 




 




 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3357018Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:17:13 +05003357018@Uncensored

Thanks for the reply, dothebart.
just any of my mail folders shows empty on webcit. I get the header line with "Subject Sender Date" (my interface is german, maybe those terms are a little different), below I have an empty message list on a white background and the message preview is empty on a light grey background. If I click somewhere in the empty message list, the message preview background turns to medium blue.
All other Rooms like calendar, tasks etc just show correct.
Using firebug, I couldnt find the json list.
 

Tue Oct 30 2012 13:02:53 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

can you have a look at the json list using firebug?
maybe we have a format problem here.
if i.e. there is broken UTF-8 browsers reject that list -> it shows empty.
The usual way to find out is then, to use tbird and move half of the mails in another folder to find out which message subject / sender is actualy causing the problem.
If you then send me the raw data of that mail I can have a deeper look at the actual problem.

Tue Oct 30 2012 06:23:03 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Anybody got an idea on this?
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Sep 27 2012 18:10:01 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?




 




 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356831Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:31:22 +05003356831@Uncensored>First, message size = attachment + headers + message text + anything else
in  
 >>the message...and all of that is likely higher thant he 240 spare bites
 
 >>you've left between your 10MB file and the rest of the message.   
 >>  
 >>Second, when a file is attached, it is encoded...that encoding can cause
the  
 >>attachment to be larger, in the form of the text that it has been encoded
as.  
 >>  
 >>  
 >>My advice...make the attachment smaller (compress it or somesuch), or upload
 
 >>it to DropBox and email the recipient a link to the file, from which they
can  
 >>download it, directly.   
 >>  
 >>    
 >>  
 >>    
 >  
 >    
 >  
 >Thanks for the answer, but does it mean, it doesn't work for big E-Mails
at  
 >all? At the moment I 've got no alternative for sending the big E-Mails
 
 >directly.  
  
 Depends on your definition of "big emails". However, it would help if you
went
into the Administration area, select "Edit Site-wide Configuration", go to
the "Tuning" tab and look at "Maximum message length" field. Chances are that
it's set to a number that's insufficient to your needs. 
  
 That being said, changing that number to something high could cause your
system or your network connection to become sluggish as it's passing large
files around via email. Keep that in mind when you consider changing it. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356708Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:32:11 +05003356708@Uncensored

 

Fri Nov 09 2012 09:55:47 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Error: message file too big


Error: message file too big, when sending big E-Mails. 

In the admin config  the folowing value for max. message size is set:


1048576000 (in Bytes) 

My attachment was 10 MByte, which is less then 1048576000 Bytes. 

Does anyone have an idea? 

Yes...you're running into a few issues here. 

First, message size = attachment + headers + message text + anything else in the message...and all of that is likely higher thant he 240 spare bites you've left between your 10MB file and the rest of the message. 

Second, when a file is attached, it is encoded...that encoding can cause the attachment to be larger, in the form of the text that it has been encoded as. 

My advice...make the attachment smaller (compress it or somesuch), or upload it to DropBox and email the recipient a link to the file, from which they can download it, directly. 


Thanks for the answer, but does it mean, it doesn't work for big E-Mails at all? At the moment I 've got no alternative for sending the big E-Mails directly.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356616Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:26:41 +05003356616@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 12 2012 05:18:34 EST from heymans @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Why the mail stuck in outbound

 

Mon Nov 12 2012 04:59:43 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Why the mail stuck in outbound

is there still an outbound mail job running? (you can see that on top of the mails in the queue)
mail isn't always reliable; its meant to overcome these errors automaticaly.
if the remote host is down or unreachable, it remains undelivered in the queue.
you should be able to read a status message next to the yellow lines (these are still pending)
the green lines are already sent, the red ones are aborted by a permanent error.
you can try the full line like that:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#telnet
to make shure your citadel is able to talk to the remote mailserver.
Obstackles don't have to be in your network, but could. So try that from the host where your citserver is running on, to one of the mailservers which aren't working properly.




yes the outbound mail job are running .
I make sure that the citadel is able to connect to remote mailserver , what I'm thinking is the citadel doing something that cause the cpu to 100% .  




please try to investigate which thread uses the 100% cpu
top should show you, if you enable lwp displaying.
if you attach to citadel with gdb, you can identify the thread causing the problem.
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:gdb#debugging
you can also have a look at your logfiles to locate what the threads/jobs did before blocking:
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=blob;f=citadel/techdoc/logging.txt;h=425683d346308fc56f5e2a4d29442614b64be3b8;hb=HEAD
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=blob;f=citadel/techdoc/citadel_thread_io.txt;h=c397ba3cf7c6feabcb7a30b2123885abed6aaf3b;hb=HEAD
 
Without some further analysis from you there will be no progress on this subject.
In terms of getting it solved 'now' restarting the server should fix you up, but most probably it will bite you again.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356461Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:18:34 +05003356461@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 12 2012 04:59:43 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Why the mail stuck in outbound

is there still an outbound mail job running? (you can see that on top of the mails in the queue)
mail isn't always reliable; its meant to overcome these errors automaticaly.
if the remote host is down or unreachable, it remains undelivered in the queue.
you should be able to read a status message next to the yellow lines (these are still pending)
the green lines are already sent, the red ones are aborted by a permanent error.
you can try the full line like that:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#telnet
to make shure your citadel is able to talk to the remote mailserver.
Obstackles don't have to be in your network, but could. So try that from the host where your citserver is running on, to one of the mailservers which aren't working properly.




yes the outbound mail job are running .
I make sure that the citadel is able to connect to remote mailserver , what I'm thinking is the citadel doing something that cause the cpu to 100% .  

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356359Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:59:43 +05003356359@Uncensored

is there still an outbound mail job running? (you can see that on top of the mails in the queue)
mail isn't always reliable; its meant to overcome these errors automaticaly.
if the remote host is down or unreachable, it remains undelivered in the queue.
you should be able to read a status message next to the yellow lines (these are still pending)
the green lines are already sent, the red ones are aborted by a permanent error.
you can try the full line like that:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#telnet
to make shure your citadel is able to talk to the remote mailserver.
Obstackles don't have to be in your network, but could. So try that from the host where your citserver is running on, to one of the mailservers which aren't working properly.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356260Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:50:48 +05003356260@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 12 2012 04:48:26 EST from heymans @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Why the mail stuck in outbound

Thanks for reply,  but how do i check the citadel version  ?




I'm using 8.14 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356168Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:48:26 +05003356168@Uncensored

Thanks for reply,  but how do i check the citadel version  ?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3356075Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:46:38 +05003356075@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 12 2012 04:30:05 EST from heymans @ Uncensored  Subject: Why the mail stuck in outbound

Hi everyone,
My mail server suddently cannot send the mail out , all messages are stucked in 'View the outbound SMTP queue' without any errors .  But it still can send the mail to intranet .
By the way , all network setting are correct and it works fine few days ago .  I try to restart the server / machine , it still the same problem and i found the citserver cost 100% cpu resources.




which citadel version are you using? if < 8.1x please upgrade.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355979Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:30:05 +05003355979@Uncensored

Hi everyone,
My mail server suddently cannot send the mail out , all messages are stucked in 'View the outbound SMTP queue' without any errors .  But it still can send the mail to intranet .
By the way , all network setting are correct and it works fine few days ago .  I try to restart the server / machine , it still the same problem and i found the citserver cost 100% cpu resources.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355875Mon, 12 Nov 2012 03:33:27 +05003355875@Uncensored

 

Fri Nov 09 2012 09:55:47 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Error: message file too big


Error: message file too big, when sending big E-Mails. 

In the admin config  the folowing value for max. message size is set:


1048576000 (in Bytes) 

My attachment was 10 MByte, which is less then 1048576000 Bytes. 

Does anyone have an idea? 

Yes...you're running into a few issues here. 

First, message size = attachment + headers + message text + anything else in the message...and all of that is likely higher thant he 240 spare bites you've left between your 10MB file and the rest of the message. 

Second, when a file is attached, it is encoded...that encoding can cause the attachment to be larger, in the form of the text that it has been encoded as. 

My advice...make the attachment smaller (compress it or somesuch), or upload it to DropBox and email the recipient a link to the file, from which they can download it, directly. 


Thanks for the answer, but does it mean, it doesn't work for big E-Mails at all? At the moment I 've got no alternative for sending the big E-Mails directly.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355773Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:05:50 +05003355773@Uncensored

the same way you subscribed.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355667Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:33:40 +05003355667@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355561Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:31:49 +05003355561@Uncensored

which os are you using? did you install & recompile the gettext devel headers?
do you find 'uselocale' in
nm webcit
?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355462Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:21:22 +05003355462@Uncensored

Thank you everybody !
 I will work on the eight last translations with friends so we can finish the translation this week.
 I also will try theses translations on one of my server to make shure that everything is explicit. Especialy by end users!
 
but i stay don't know how to switch in french on the freshly installed software 

http://www.di-rosa.ch/owncloud/public.php?service=files&file=/robert/files/Bildschirmfoto 2012-11-12 um 00.13.36.png 
 So without any news i will come back here as soon the translation is finished and tested.
 i wish a nice week to everybody! 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355278Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:45:33 +05003355278@Uncensored

I do this by hand.
Hint: moving/deleting messages significantly sped up with citadel 8.xx

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355171Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:15:10 +05003355171@Uncensored

 

Sun Nov 11 2012 07:49:53 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Archiving

me personlay tends to create rooms with years as names, and move the messages over.




 
 
Thanks dothebart. 
 
I can see that that would work.  Have you automated the process or is it done manually?
 
Regards
 
ffaffer
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3355075Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:49:53 +05003355075@Uncensored

me personlay tends to create rooms with years as names, and move the messages over.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3354984Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:49:02 +05003354984@Uncensored

hm, and another one:


#: ../../static/t/aide/display_inetconf.html:16
msgid "Fallback smart hosts"
msgstr "Fallback smart hosts"
 
#: ../../static/t/aide/display_inetconf.html:16
#, fuzzy
msgid "Fallback smart hosts"
msgstr "Serveurs de relais"
 

#: ../../static/t/aide/siteconfig/tab_access.html:24
msgid "Self contained"
msgstr "Self contained"
#: ../../static/t/aide/siteconfig/tab_access.html:24
msgid "Self contained"
msgstr "contient"
 
#: ../../static/t/aide/siteconfig/tab_access.html:25
msgid "Host based"
msgstr "Host based"
#: ../../static/t/aide/siteconfig/tab_access.html:25
#, fuzzy
msgid "Host based"
msgstr "Nom de la machine hôte :"
 
 
 
You can download the current state here:
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=blob_plain;f=webcit/po/webcit/fr.po;hb=HEAD
and replace the version of the po the stable webcit tarball brings you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3354886Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:28:20 +05003354886@Uncensored

hm, this one is probably wrong?
#: ../../static/t/listsub/display.html:17
msgid " to the "
msgstr " to the "
it was...
msgstr "sur le "
which sounds better to me from the german point of view? ;-)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3354795Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:21:04 +05003354795@Uncensored

 

Sun Nov 11 2012 05:45:42 EST from Robert @ Uncensored  Subject: French translate

Hello everybody !
 
I really like to use citadel, and i tought how could i give a hand with this project. So i worked on the french translation and now we are close to finish our french translation, but ....
- When i use the easy install i don't see the french translation  :-( 
- When using webcit user cannot select any languages, it stay "C" setting and there is no drop menu.
 
I wish i could use and share theses new translations  :-D 




have a look at
http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:customize_webcit#wordingtranslating
and you' re probably missing some prerequisites:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall#prerequisites
 
You finished the translation on launchpad, right?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3354701Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:06:24 +05003354701@Uncensored

Hi
 
I've been running Citadel on Ubuntu for a couple of years and I'm delighted with it.  However, the web access is gettng to be quite slow as I like to retain all emails (in and out).
 
The solution, I think, is to archive mail.  Does anyone use a mail archiving solution with Citadel?  If you do I'd appreciate a pointer to solutions that work.
 
ffaffer
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3354590Sun, 11 Nov 2012 05:45:42 +05003354590@Uncensored

Hello everybody !
 
I really like to use citadel, and i tought how could i give a hand with this project. So i worked on the french translation and now we are close to finish our french translation, but ....
- When i use the easy install i don't see the french translation  :-( 
- When using webcit user cannot select any languages, it stay "C" setting and there is no drop menu.
 
I wish i could use and share theses new translations  :-D 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3354125Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:57:14 +05003354125@Uncensored

 
  Hello!
  I've installed Citadel on two test systems, selecting the "Host system integrated authentication" option. One system is joined to AD and the other is joined to OpenLDAP. In both cases, authentication of a local user account works, but authentication of a user stored in AD/LDAP does not work. If I run /usr/local/citadel/chkpw on a AD/LDAP account, the correct user ID is returned, but the password is not accepted (returns "fail").  Any suggestions?
  Thanks!
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3354114Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:56:22 +05003354114@Uncensored

Dotherbart,
 
I want to thank you for at least giving me the benefit of the doubt and posting something to my problem.
 
Okay.  Confession time.  I should be ashamed of myself for not looking under the hood far enough on the server time.  Everything was set correctly, on the surface.  For some reason my CentOS servers desktop had a different time then the actual server.  Not sure why.  But after I went command line things got crystal clear to what was wrong.
 
I fixed it with something simular to the following link:
http://www.sentris.net/billing/knowledgebase/17/How_to_set_dateortime_permanently_on_CentosorRHorFedora.html
 
Thanks,
-SF-
 

Wed Nov 07 2012 15:09:23 EST from shadowfire @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Time discrepency - even when I place the correct time in start/end

Dotherbart,
 
I should have mentioned originally this happens to any pc that I logon to and browse to my citadel server, so I doubt it is client based since this didn't happen till I did and easy upgrade on the citadel server.  In any case I am placing what is set on all the follwing devices (citserver, client, host)
 
-I took a look at citserver - under General site configuration items -  Default timezone for unzoned calendar items = America / NewYork. 
-The client is a Linux Mint machine - and shows it is setup under date and time for: New York - America/United States of America  Eastern Time.
-The host is a CentOS 6.3 server - and shows it to be setup under date and time for:  America/New York  Eastern Time.
 
Am I missing something?  Is it somewhere else in citserver?  maybe when I am installing on easy install for citserver. 
 
Thanks again,
-SF-
 

Wed Nov 07 2012 14:33:23 EST from shadowfire @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Time discrepency - even when I place the correct time in start/end

Sorry I am getting back to you late.  I have been on the run to get some items done, I am sure like the rest of everyone here.  I will be looking at citserver, since I have already checked Host OS and client and they seem to be on the money as far as time being correct.  I will let you know what I find.
 
Thanks,
-SF-
 

Sat Nov 03 2012 05:10:16 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Time discrepency - even when I place the correct time in start/end

you need to choose the correct timezone in all involved component: host os, citserver, client.




 




 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353915Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:55:47 +05003353915@UncensoredError: message file too big, when sending big E-Mails.    
 >  
 >In the admin config  the folowing value for max. message size is set: 

 >1048576000 (in Bytes)    
 >  
 >My attachment was 10 MByte, which is less then 1048576000 Bytes.    
 >  
 >Does anyone have an idea?    
  
 Yes...you're running into a few issues here. 
  
 First, message size = attachment + headers + message text + anything else
in the message...and all of that is likely higher thant he 240 spare bites
you've left between your 10MB file and the rest of the message. 
  
 Second, when a file is attached, it is encoded...that encoding can cause
the attachment to be larger, in the form of the text that it has been encoded
as. 
  
 My advice...make the attachment smaller (compress it or somesuch), or upload
it to DropBox and email the recipient a link to the file, from which they
can download it, directly. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353635Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:22:47 +05003353635@Uncensored

hello can ypu help my setup citadel?
i pay you good.

hoova55@live.nl
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353634Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:20:37 +05003353634@Uncensored

How can help my setupo citadel whit manny holland loads?
I pay good for your help.
 
Mike
hoova55@live.nl
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353522Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:08:46 +05003353522@Uncensored

Hi,
got the error
Error: message file too big, when sending big E-Mails.
In the admin config  the folowing value for max. message size is set: 1048576000 (in Bytes)
My attachment was 10 MByte, which is less then 1048576000 Bytes.
Does anyone have an idea?
btw I can't change the value 1048576000 for max size in webcit...
Cheers
Alex
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353421Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:50:17 +05003353421@Uncensored

I want the e-mails end up in Inbox (Posteingang), so it also works with pop3!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353324Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:00:33 +05003353324@Uncensored

E-mails are not in Inbox, but in Aide

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353125Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:09:23 +05003353125@Uncensored

Dotherbart,
 
I should have mentioned originally this happens to any pc that I logon to and browse to my citadel server, so I doubt it is client based since this didn't happen till I did and easy upgrade on the citadel server.  In any case I am placing what is set on all the follwing devices (citserver, client, host)
 
-I took a look at citserver - under General site configuration items -  Default timezone for unzoned calendar items = America / NewYork. 
-The client is a Linux Mint machine - and shows it is setup under date and time for: New York - America/United States of America  Eastern Time.
-The host is a CentOS 6.3 server - and shows it to be setup under date and time for:  America/New York  Eastern Time.
 
Am I missing something?  Is it somewhere else in citserver?  maybe when I am installing on easy install for citserver. 
 
Thanks again,
-SF-
 

Wed Nov 07 2012 14:33:23 EST from shadowfire @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Time discrepency - even when I place the correct time in start/end

Sorry I am getting back to you late.  I have been on the run to get some items done, I am sure like the rest of everyone here.  I will be looking at citserver, since I have already checked Host OS and client and they seem to be on the money as far as time being correct.  I will let you know what I find.
 
Thanks,
-SF-
 

Sat Nov 03 2012 05:10:16 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Time discrepency - even when I place the correct time in start/end

you need to choose the correct timezone in all involved component: host os, citserver, client.




 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3353014Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:33:23 +05003353014@Uncensored

Sorry I am getting back to you late.  I have been on the run to get some items done, I am sure like the rest of everyone here.  I will be looking at citserver, since I have already checked Host OS and client and they seem to be on the money as far as time being correct.  I will let you know what I find.
 
Thanks,
-SF-
 

Sat Nov 03 2012 05:10:16 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Time discrepency - even when I place the correct time in start/end

you need to choose the correct timezone in all involved component: host os, citserver, client.




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3352837Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:26:14 +05003352837@Uncensored

 

Wed Nov 07 2012 08:06:56 EST from danosp @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit translation

Hi,
May I ask if anybody already started or finished translation of WebCit into Polish language?
Danos




according to https://translations.launchpad.net/citadel/trunk/+pots/webcit - no.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3352734Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:06:56 +05003352734@Uncensored

Hi,
May I ask if anybody already started or finished translation of WebCit into Polish language?
Danos

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3352453Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:11:14 +05003352453@UncensoredHi,    
 >  
 >Is it quiet or is my link busted again??    
 >  
 >--   
 >SergeantPony aka Rich Ringer / KB1OHY  
  
 As far as I know, it's working. Every once in a while, I get the old "tried
to connect to XXXX but connected to"" " error in my Aide room...but that happens
for multiple nodes. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3352226Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:02:22 +05003352226@Uncensored

Hi,
Is it quiet or is my link busted again??
-- 
SergeantPony aka Rich Ringer / KB1OHY
email: SergeantPony@rfrcomputers.dtdns.net
aim: ponyscorral
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3352127Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:11:10 +05003352127@Uncensored

 

Mon Nov 05 2012 16:08:47 EST from "chris rojas" <des24man@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support]
i have zoneedit service

I have an mx pointing to @ and hosting to mail.medixxxxxx.com
the "A" type is pointing to my ipaddress isp provided me.

when i do a nslookup  set type=mx
 i get a
server:  mail.medixxxx.local
address:   local ip address
 

.local isn't resolveable / of interest for the rest of the world. You don't need it.



non-authoritive  answer:
mail.medixxxx.com mx preference = 0,  mail exchanger is  mail.medixxxx.com

mail.medixxxx.com internet address = my isp ipaddress
 

try
host -t mx citadel.org
and compare the results to your results.
try connecting to your host from the outside using the name in your dns entry:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#telnet
 




i am stuck and i need to working quick or i am fired!



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Citadel Support <room_citadel_support@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:


 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 From: dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org>
 Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails


again, do you have a mx record? pointing from mydomain.com to
mail.mydomain.com?

 did you use your own certificate or the auto created by citadel? you have to
 accept them with your client then. And, did you open port 995, 993, 465? in
 your firewall?
 > Mon Nov 05 2012 04:22:50 EST from "des24man" <des24man@gmail.com>  Subject:


>Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails
 >
 > hi thanks for the help. I am able to ping mail.mydomain.com. nslookup
 > and i used dnstools site. i just cant seem to get emails and i cant
 > seem to use ssl
 >
 > 11/5/2012 4:01 AM, Citadel Support wrote:
 >
 >>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >>--
 >> From: dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org>
 >> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails
 >>
 >> did you configure an mx record with your nameserver?
 >>
 >> have a look at these faqs:
 >>
 >> http://citadel.org/doku.php/installat








 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3352012Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:08:47 +05003352012@Uncensored
I have an mx pointing to @ and hosting to mail.medixxxxxx.com
the "A" type is pointing to my ipaddress isp provided me.

when i do a nslookup  set type=mx

i get a
server:  mail.medixxxx.local
address:   local ip address

non-authoritive  answer:
mail.medixxxx.com mx preference = 0,  mail exchanger is  mail.medixxxx.com


mail.medixxxx.com internet address = my isp ipaddress


i am stuck and i need to working quick or i am fired!
 

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Citadel Support <room_citadel_support@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:

 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails



again, do you have a mx record? pointing from mydomain.com to

mail.mydomain.com?



did you use your own certificate or the auto created by citadel? you have to

accept them with your client then. And, did you open port 995, 993, 465? in

your firewall?

> Mon Nov 05 2012 04:22:50 EST from "des24man" <des24man@gmail.com>  Subject:

>Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails

>

> hi thanks for the help. I am able to ping mail.mydomain.com. nslookup

> and i used dnstools site. i just cant seem to get emails and i cant

> seem to use ssl

>

> 11/5/2012 4:01 AM, Citadel Support wrote:

>

>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>--

>> From: dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org>

>> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails

>>

>> did you configure an mx record with your nameserver?

>>

>> have a look at these faqs:

>>

>> http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started

>>

>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> You are subscribed to the 'Citadel Support' list.

>> To post to the list: room_citadel_support@uncensored.citadel.org



>

>

>







 

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To post to the list: room_citadel_support@uncensored.citadel.org

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351914Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:33:06 +05003351914@Uncensored

again, do you have a mx record? pointing from mydomain.com to mail.mydomain.com?
did you use your own certificate or the auto created by citadel? you have to accept them with your client then. And, did you open port 995, 993, 465? in your firewall?

Mon Nov 05 2012 04:22:50 EST from "des24man" <des24man@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails
hi thanks for the help. I am able to ping mail.mydomain.com. nslookup 
 and i used dnstools site. i just cant seem to get emails and i cant 
 seem to use ssl
 
 11/5/2012 4:01 AM, Citadel Support wrote:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 From: dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org>
 Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails
 
 did you configure an mx record with your nameserver?
 
 have a look at these faqs:
 
 http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 You are subscribed to the 'Citadel Support' list.
 To post to the list: room_citadel_support@uncensored.citadel.org


 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351692Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:22:50 +05003351692@Uncensored   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: dothebart 
> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] problems receiving emails
>
> did you configure an mx record with your nameserver?
>
> have a look at these faqs:
>
> http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> You are subscribed to the 'Citadel Support' list.
> To post to the list: room_citadel_support@uncensored.citadel.org
>
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351596Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:01:00 +05003351596@Uncensored

did you configure an mx record with your nameserver?
have a look at these faqs:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:getting_started

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351427Sun, 04 Nov 2012 16:30:04 +05003351427@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351333Sun, 04 Nov 2012 15:27:05 +05003351333@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351238Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:26:39 +05003351238@Uncensored

we need to know, how you created these items in first place.
please use a non ssl connection, and tcpdump/wireshark to record the transfered data
(use a testaccount where you don't care about the credentials please ;-)
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net_sniff

Sun Nov 04 2012 08:10:35 EST from "Henne Holly" <henne.gwath@gmx.de>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Iso-encoded groupdav-files
Hi,
 
 In my tests I used various things like firefox, links, wget, accessing
 webcit directly or through apache https proxy-module. Its all up-to-date
 software.
 
 How do I get access to that "post" you mentioned?
 
 Henning
 
 Am 01.11.2012 13:21, schrieb dothebart:
 
 

Wed Oct 31 2012 12:05:41 EDT from "Henne Holly" <henne.gwath@gmx.de>
 Subject: Iso-encoded groupdav-files
 Hi,
 
 Some time ago I reported the iso-encoded groupdav-files though accessed
 and modified only by webcit. Have you found a solution here yet?
 
 regards,
 henning
 
 to be precise, we haven't found any evidence yet.
 
 while webcit uses iconv to convert encodings, it only has code in place
 that transcodes from other charsets to utf8.
 
 maybe you have old browsers in place that post non-utf8? and if... can
 you send me such a post?


 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351108Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:06:51 +05003351108@Uncensored

 

Fri Nov 02 2012 06:40:54 PM UTC from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Wiki subpages

Maybe this is a dumb question, maybe I'm just not seeing it or finding it on the doku.
If I want to use my Citadel as a Wiki (set up a Wiki room or two), how can I add pages to it?
For example, I've got "Mike's Wiki" created as a Wiki room, and I've performed my "edit this page" to put a little something on it.
I can edit it some more, but other Wikis have functions to add pages to the Wiki, and I'm unsure how, if at all, to do so without creating a ton of separate Wiki rooms.




I guess my answer is "No...add more wiki rooms/pages and link to them"?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3351000Sun, 04 Nov 2012 08:10:35 +05003351000@Uncensored  
> 
>     Wed Oct 31 2012 12:05:41 EDT from "Henne Holly" 
>     Subject: Iso-encoded groupdav-files
>     Hi,
> 
>     Some time ago I reported the iso-encoded groupdav-files though accessed
>     and modified only by webcit. Have you found a solution here yet?
> 
>     regards,
>     henning
> 
> to be precise, we haven't found any evidence yet.
> 
> while webcit uses iconv to convert encodings, it only has code in place
> that transcodes from other charsets to utf8.
> 
> maybe you have old browsers in place that post non-utf8? and if... can
> you send me such a post?
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350746Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:10:16 +05003350746@Uncensored

you need to choose the correct timezone in all involved component: host os, citserver, client.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350610Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:28:25 +05003350610@Uncensored

Guys,

I have look all over to see if I have the wrong time set up in Citadel, or on my CentOS server.  It all seems to be ok.  I just did a recent upgrade from 8.1X to 8.15.   After the easy upgrade I noticed that when I placed in a calendar event and placed the time for it in Start and End, I would save the event, but the time would be off.... almost a half a day.  I haven't been able to figure out what is causeing my Start and End times to save and be off by several hours.  I figured it has something to do with the CentOS side and it having the wrong time on the server, but I check it and it seems to have the correct time.  I also tried to find settings in Citadel under Advanced, But I am unable to find anything that will help me get this fix.
Any ideas for me to check I would be greatful.
 
Thanks,
-SF-
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350368Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:04:05 +05003350368@Uncensored

 

Fri Nov 02 2012 14:25:51 EDT from greagle @ Uncensored  Subject: Is it possible to get IMAP access to this forum?

Hello.  Is it possible to get IMAP access to this forum?  I use Thunderbird.  If yes, what would I use as my username, what would the IMAP server name be?  Is SSL supported?

FYI the reason I am trying this is I am finding the web interface cumbersome for searching.




Okay, to answer my own question, yes it is possible, and it is pretty impressive.  I am using Thunderbird 16.02, and here are the settings I used:
incoming IMAP server:  uncensored.citadel.org,  port 993,  SSL/TLS,  Normal password authentication, username greagle
By the way, I did have some problems with the SSL certificate, but I didn't pay much attention, that is not what I am focusing on right now.
One really cool feature is that I can see my calendar, contacts, notes, and tasks in Thunderbird too.  They show up as mailboxes.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350367Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:03:42 +05003350367@Uncensored

 

Fri Nov 02 2012 02:06:49 PM EDT from greagle @ Uncensored  Subject: I enter here and citadel shows me as user "greagle"

I'm not such user (greagle)
I just open firefox 10.6.02 ubuntu 12.04.1 and I see that I have a session named as (greagle) user.
The last time that I was here I don't close the session.
I post this just to give a head up about this.
Regards / s3cr3to




When I try to log off and I got some very strange screens in every attempt (I attach a sample)
But after I clean up the cache in firefox I can login here successfully.
Regards
 
 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350270Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:40:54 +05003350270@Uncensored

Maybe this is a dumb question, maybe I'm just not seeing it or finding it on the doku.
If I want to use my Citadel as a Wiki (set up a Wiki room or two), how can I add pages to it?
For example, I've got "Mike's Wiki" created as a Wiki room, and I've performed my "edit this page" to put a little something on it.
I can edit it some more, but other Wikis have functions to add pages to the Wiki, and I'm unsure how, if at all, to do so without creating a ton of separate Wiki rooms.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350175Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:25:51 +05003350175@Uncensored

Hello.  Is it possible to get IMAP access to this forum?  I use Thunderbird.  If yes, what would I use as my username, what would the IMAP server name be?  Is SSL supported?

FYI the reason I am trying this is I am finding the web interface cumbersome for searching.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350170Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:20:34 +05003350170@Uncensored

I meant to post that in the CItadel Support forum.  Sorry.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350169Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:19:58 +05003350169@Uncensored

Hello.  Is it possible to get IMAP access to this forum?  I use Thunderbird.  If yes, what would I use as my username, what would the IMAP server name be?  Is SSL supported?
FYI the reason I am trying this is I am finding the web interface cumbersome for searching.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3350075Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:06:49 +05003350075@Uncensored

I'm not such user (greagle)
I just open firefox 10.6.02 ubuntu 12.04.1 and I see that I have a session named as (greagle) user.
The last time that I was here I don't close the session.
I post this just to give a head up about this.
Regards / s3cr3to

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3349772Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:31:04 +05003349772@Uncensored

Thank you for the assistance!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3349670Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:51:34 +05003349670@Uncensored

 

Thu Nov 01 2012 08:20:14 EDT from timthetortoise @ Uncensored 

Figured out my first issue, and now another!
Is there a way to set up an alias that sends e-mail to everyone with an e-mail account? Like an all@domain.tld type address?




you can use public rooms for that:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/doku.php?id=faq:start#everydayuse

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3349581Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:50:17 +05003349581@Uncensored

 

Wed Oct 31 2012 11:44:40 EDT from timthetortoise @ Uncensored  Subject: Scripting new users

Not sure if this is the place to ask about this, but I'm working on setting up a user import script. I can add new users just fine, but the problem comes in when I want to set the first/last name to something else. I've come to understand that using a vCard format is the proper way to accomplish this, but I'm not sure how to actually get a vCard to stick to a specific user. My script does something like this:
USER first.last
PASS xxxx
ENT0 1|||4
Content-type: text/v-card; charset=UTF-8
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:3.0
N:Last;First;;;
...
END:VCARD
000
QUIT
I've also tried with GOTO Global Address Book as admin, but no luck there. Any advice? 




have a look at
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:generalquestions:i_want_to_automate#cleaningupthecitadeluserlistglobaladdressbook
it links some php scripts.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3349485Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:21:45 +05003349485@Uncensored

 

Wed Oct 31 2012 12:05:41 EDT from "Henne Holly" <henne.gwath@gmx.de>  Subject: Iso-encoded groupdav-files
Hi,
 
 Some time ago I reported the iso-encoded groupdav-files though accessed
 and modified only by webcit. Have you found a solution here yet?
 
 regards,
 henning
 

to be precise, we haven't found any evidence yet.
while webcit uses iconv to convert encodings, it only has code in place that transcodes from other charsets to utf8.
maybe you have old browsers in place that post non-utf8? and if... can you send me such a post?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3349395Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:20:14 +05003349395@Uncensored

Figured out my first issue, and now another!
Is there a way to set up an alias that sends e-mail to everyone with an e-mail account? Like an all@domain.tld type address?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3349176Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:05:41 +05003349176@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3349082Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:44:40 +05003349082@Uncensored

Not sure if this is the place to ask about this, but I'm working on setting up a user import script. I can add new users just fine, but the problem comes in when I want to set the first/last name to something else. I've come to understand that using a vCard format is the proper way to accomplish this, but I'm not sure how to actually get a vCard to stick to a specific user. My script does something like this:
USER first.last
PASS xxxx
ENT0 1|||4
Content-type: text/v-card; charset=UTF-8
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:3.0
N:Last;First;;;
...
END:VCARD
000
QUIT
I've also tried with GOTO Global Address Book as admin, but no luck there. Any advice? 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3348824Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:53:33 +05003348824@Uncensored

 

Tue Oct 30 2012 14:05:01 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

thanks for clarity.
My mail is on 3 servers - gmail, sandeepsubhash.com - again with gmail, and mosaic.net.in - with net4india.com
I can setup MX to send it to CITSERVER of my network, right?
Then, using thunderbird I can set each mail account to POP3 email from CITSERVER, right?
However, reverse is also possible?
ie, can I send out email from thunderbird to CITSERVER - and CITSERVER will then send it to say mosaic2s@gmail.com?
this way, all email traffic is thru CITSERVER / CITADEL and hence can be monitored.
 


heh ;-) ok.
git master (unreleased maybe citadel 8.20 sooner or later) currently can relay through several accounts depending on the from address.
however, falling back to sending by local accounts will probably be denied then.
 
without making tbird talk imap to citadel (over pop3) there is not much gain of such a situation.
You could however add multiple smtp relays to your thunderbird configuration, which then wouldn't relay through your citadel, but google instead.
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3348710Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:05:01 +05003348710@Uncensored

thanks for clarity.
My mail is on 3 servers - gmail, sandeepsubhash.com - again with gmail, and mosaic.net.in - with net4india.com
I can setup MX to send it to CITSERVER of my network, right?
Then, using thunderbird I can set each mail account to POP3 email from CITSERVER, right?
However, reverse is also possible?
ie, can I send out email from thunderbird to CITSERVER - and CITSERVER will then send it to say mosaic2s@gmail.com?
this way, all email traffic is thru CITSERVER / CITADEL and hence can be monitored.
 
 

Mon Oct 29 2012 06:10:10 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

you're confusing the concepts of mail.
SMTP: the protocols which mailservers talk to each others to send mails back and forth. Put simple, mail is just sent, or received by an smtp server.An email address is associated with such a server. An MX-Record (read about it on wikipedia...)has to be configured in your providers nameserver config which tells others where your mailserver is.
but then it sits on your mailserver, and you want to read it, right?so...
IMAP4/POP3/Webcits webinterface comes into game: the first two are there to give fat clients like outlook or thunderbind access to mails, the later lets you do so in a browser.
 
So now if you've got an email address associated with another mailserver, i.e. google mail. But, you want to have it all on one server, maybe even combining several accounts into one.
Then there are aggregators, like the citadel internal pop3 aggregator or fetchmail etc. that talk to your account on googlemail, and poll for new mails and
 
 
So, wheres your mail? where should it be sent to, where do you intend to receive it from?
 
 

Mon Oct 29 2012 08:45:08 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

reading the FAQs with postfix etc is way above my understanding. i got confused reading this.
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:troubleshooting:outbound_mail#outbound.mail.is.not.being.delivered.and.or.is.stuck.in.the.queue
here it shows that gmail can be configured with this. hence i am presuming that citadel server acts as a central point where all emails are downloaded to from various email services and then are sent to various machines within an office or home setup.
 
 

Fri Oct 26 2012 01:38:19 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

 

Fri Oct 26 2012 11:38:36 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

let me rephrase the query.
we own 2 domains - 
mosaic.net.in - with 4 email ids
sandeepsubhash.com - with 10 emails ids.
 
can we set the CITADEL to send and receive emails from one computer  - then set other systems to take emails frm CITADEL SERVER only? then they will not need net access at all times. thus preventing virus attacks on all comps.




ok, now you made it: I'm confused.
does one of these faqs cover your usecase?
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:start#installation
(i.e. the one about combining it with postfix?)




 




 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3348607Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:02:53 +05003348607@Uncensored

can you have a look at the json list using firebug?
maybe we have a format problem here.
if i.e. there is broken UTF-8 browsers reject that list -> it shows empty.
The usual way to find out is then, to use tbird and move half of the mails in another folder to find out which message subject / sender is actualy causing the problem.
If you then send me the raw data of that mail I can have a deeper look at the actual problem.

Tue Oct 30 2012 06:23:03 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Fw: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Anybody got an idea on this?
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Sep 27 2012 18:10:01 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?




 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3348452Tue, 30 Oct 2012 06:23:03 +05003348452@Uncensored

Anybody got an idea on this?
 --- forwarded message --- 

Thu Sep 27 2012 18:10:01 EDT from bgerum @ Uncensored  Subject: Webcit 8.14 shows mail folders empty

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3348355Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:51:39 +05003348355@Uncensored The response was
> 
> >Failed to issue method call: Unit var-run.mount failed to load: No such
> >file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status var-run.mount'
> >for details
> >
> >citadel.service - Citadel Groupware Server
> >
> >               Loaded: loaded
> >(/usr/lib/systemd/system/citadel.service; disabled)
> >
> >               Active: inactive (dead)
> >
> >               CGroup: name=systemd:/system/citadel.service
> 
> There are no messages in the message file relating to webcit or citadel.

OK, that error is quite obvious.

Please run the following commands as root:
# sed -i 's/var-run.mount //' /lib/systemd/system/citadel.service
# sed -i 's/var-run.mount //' /lib/systemd/system/webcit.service
# sed -i 's/var-run.mount //' /lib/systemd/system/webcits.service
# systemctl daemon-reload

Then you can start citadel with:
# systemctl start citadel.service
To enable start up at boot, run:
# systemctl enable citadel.service

I will fix the error in the RPMS. An update should be available this 
afternoon.

Thanks for reporting.
Stefan
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3348210Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:10:10 +05003348210@Uncensored

you're confusing the concepts of mail.
SMTP: the protocols which mailservers talk to each others to send mails back and forth. Put simple, mail is just sent, or received by an smtp server.An email address is associated with such a server. An MX-Record (read about it on wikipedia...)has to be configured in your providers nameserver config which tells others where your mailserver is.
but then it sits on your mailserver, and you want to read it, right?so...
IMAP4/POP3/Webcits webinterface comes into game: the first two are there to give fat clients like outlook or thunderbind access to mails, the later lets you do so in a browser.
 
So now if you've got an email address associated with another mailserver, i.e. google mail. But, you want to have it all on one server, maybe even combining several accounts into one.
Then there are aggregators, like the citadel internal pop3 aggregator or fetchmail etc. that talk to your account on googlemail, and poll for new mails and
 
 
So, wheres your mail? where should it be sent to, where do you intend to receive it from?

Mon Oct 29 2012 08:45:08 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

reading the FAQs with postfix etc is way above my understanding. i got confused reading this.
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:troubleshooting:outbound_mail#outbound.mail.is.not.being.delivered.and.or.is.stuck.in.the.queue
here it shows that gmail can be configured with this. hence i am presuming that citadel server acts as a central point where all emails are downloaded to from various email services and then are sent to various machines within an office or home setup.
 
 

Fri Oct 26 2012 01:38:19 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

 

Fri Oct 26 2012 11:38:36 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

let me rephrase the query.
we own 2 domains - 
mosaic.net.in - with 4 email ids
sandeepsubhash.com - with 10 emails ids.
 
can we set the CITADEL to send and receive emails from one computer  - then set other systems to take emails frm CITADEL SERVER only? then they will not need net access at all times. thus preventing virus attacks on all comps.




ok, now you made it: I'm confused.
does one of these faqs cover your usecase?
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:start#installation
(i.e. the one about combining it with postfix?)




 




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347995Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:13:54 +05003347995@Uncensored

 

Sun Oct 28 2012 01:08:09 PM EDT from "Stefan Jakobs" <stefan@localside.net>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions
Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012, 13:23:17 schrieben Sie:
 [...]
 


Can you pastebin the content of /var/log/citadel.log or alternatively run
 citserver in foreground and pastebin its output?
 
/var/log/citadel.log is empty (zero bytes)
 
 Here's the pastebin of the foreground run of citadel. I started it up,
 waited a while, then CTRL+C'ed out of it.
 
Can you run 'systemctl start citadel.service; systemctl status 
 citadel.service' as root and pastebin the output. Eventually also the 
 corresponding lines from /var/log/messages.
 
 Regards
 Stefan

 
The response was

Failed to issue method call: Unit var-run.mount failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status var-run.mount' for details
citadel.service - Citadel Groupware Server
               Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/citadel.service; disabled)
               Active: inactive (dead)
               CGroup: name=systemd:/system/citadel.service

There are no messages in the message file relating to webcit or citadel.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347827Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:45:08 +05003347827@Uncensored

reading the FAQs with postfix etc is way above my understanding. i got confused reading this.
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:troubleshooting:outbound_mail#outbound.mail.is.not.being.delivered.and.or.is.stuck.in.the.queue
here it shows that gmail can be configured with this. hence i am presuming that citadel server acts as a central point where all emails are downloaded to from various email services and then are sent to various machines within an office or home setup.
 
 

Fri Oct 26 2012 01:38:19 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

 

Fri Oct 26 2012 11:38:36 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

let me rephrase the query.
we own 2 domains - 
mosaic.net.in - with 4 email ids
sandeepsubhash.com - with 10 emails ids.
 
can we set the CITADEL to send and receive emails from one computer  - then set other systems to take emails frm CITADEL SERVER only? then they will not need net access at all times. thus preventing virus attacks on all comps.




ok, now you made it: I'm confused.
does one of these faqs cover your usecase?
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:start#installation
(i.e. the one about combining it with postfix?)




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347620Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:08:09 +05003347620@Uncensored > 
> > Can you pastebin the content of /var/log/citadel.log or alternatively run
> > citserver in foreground and pastebin its output?
> 
> /var/log/citadel.log is empty (zero bytes)
> 
> Here's the pastebin of the foreground run of citadel. I started it up,
> waited a while, then CTRL+C'ed out of it.
 
Can you run 'systemctl start citadel.service; systemctl status 
citadel.service' as root and pastebin the output. Eventually also the 
corresponding lines from /var/log/messages.

Regards
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347483Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:41:31 +05003347483@Uncensored

if you used easy install, you need to have the openssl devel packages.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347388Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:25:24 +05003347388@Uncensored

 
Hi:
  I've just installed Citadel in a Debian 6 box and the SSL option is not available.
Webcit won't accept the flag -s . Openssl is installed, though.
 
Do I need to do something to enable SSL support in webcit ?
Running Citadel 8.15 and Webcit 8.15 .
 
Thanks,
Helio.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347298Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:21:45 +05003347298@Uncensored

 
For those who used Citadel easyinstall in Debian 6, a problem arrives just after the instalation.
Due to the lack of the LSB header in the /etc/init.d/webcit, the package system of Debian
reports several errors whenever you try to install a new package. The errros are
something like that:
insmode: lack of LSB module in $all (several lines)
 
Thats easily solved adding the following to /etc/init.d/webcit
#! /bin/sh
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: webcit
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs $syslog
# Required-Stop: $local_fs $remote_fs $syslog
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Start the webcit citadel service
# Description: This file should be used to construct scripts to be
# placed in /etc/init.d.
### END INIT INFO

Regards,
Helio.
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347193Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:23:17 +05003347193@Uncensored

 

Sat Oct 27 2012 10:36:29 AM EDT from "Stefan Jakobs" <stefan@localside.net>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

I did a
 

find | grep setup
 
and the closest was
 

/usr/sbin/citadel-setup
 

That's the same as /sbin/citadel-setup.
 

This one does do the usual setup I'm familiar with (admin user, which port
 to listen to, etc.), but the service is still not setup. I thought maybe I
 missed something during the install and found several other packages for
 both Citadel and Webcit. So I tried installing them too. No luck, still
 nothing.
 
 Has anyone else here managed to get Citadel installed on Fedora? I'm stumped
 as to why the service isn't setup as part of either the original
 installation or as part of the citadel-setup binary.
 
Yes, here it runs on fedora 17 without problems.
 Can you pastebin the content of /var/log/citadel.log or alternatively run 
 citserver in foreground and pastebin its output?
 

/var/log/citadel.log is empty (zero bytes)
Here's the pastebin of the foreground run of citadel. I started it up, waited a while, then CTRL+C'ed out of it.
http://pastebin.com/uYTzrqDn
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3347075Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:33:32 +05003347075@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346882Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:27:28 +05003346882@Uncensored


Sat Oct 27 2012 12:37:01 EDT from "alireza sadeh seighalan" <seighalani@gmail.com>  Subject: calendar limitation

hi my freinds
 
how can i create a calendar that see by all people but only change by me .
 
thanks in advance



Public calendars are just creating rooms as public.

You can then later edit it, and make it 'read-only' so only aide users (or room aides) may write to it.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346784Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:37:01 +05003346784@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346685Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:36:29 +05003346685@Uncensored I did a
> 
> >find | grep setup
> 
> and the closest was
> 
> >/usr/sbin/citadel-setup

That's the same as /sbin/citadel-setup.

> This one does do the usual setup I'm familiar with (admin user, which port
> to listen to, etc.), but the service is still not setup. I thought maybe I
> missed something during the install and found several other packages for
> both Citadel and Webcit. So I tried installing them too. No luck, still
> nothing.
> 
> Has anyone else here managed to get Citadel installed on Fedora? I'm stumped
> as to why the service isn't setup as part of either the original
> installation or as part of the citadel-setup binary.

Yes, here it runs on fedora 17 without problems.
Can you pastebin the content of /var/log/citadel.log or alternatively run 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346461Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:49:34 +05003346461@Uncensored

 

Thu Oct 25 2012 04:11:10 PM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

 

Thu Oct 25 2012 06:50:53 PM UTC from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

 

Wed Oct 24 2012 03:45:14 PM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

When you ran /usr/local/citadel/setup, did it not ask you about starting the software automatically (at which point it would have created and enabled the appropriate rc scripts)?
 




 
There is no /usr/local/citadel/setup. In fact there is no citadel directory in /usr/local




In that case, you'll need to look for that setup file in whichever directory citadel was installed.




I did a

find | grep setup

and the closest was

/usr/sbin/citadel-setup

This one does do the usual setup I'm familiar with (admin user, which port to listen to, etc.), but the service is still not setup. I thought maybe I missed something during the install and found several other packages for both Citadel and Webcit. So I tried installing them too. No luck, still nothing.
Has anyone else here managed to get Citadel installed on Fedora? I'm stumped as to why the service isn't setup as part of either the original installation or as part of the citadel-setup binary.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346369Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:38:19 +05003346369@Uncensored

 

Fri Oct 26 2012 11:38:36 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

let me rephrase the query.
we own 2 domains - 
mosaic.net.in - with 4 email ids
sandeepsubhash.com - with 10 emails ids.
 
can we set the CITADEL to send and receive emails from one computer  - then set other systems to take emails frm CITADEL SERVER only? then they will not need net access at all times. thus preventing virus attacks on all comps.




ok, now you made it: I'm confused.
does one of these faqs cover your usecase?
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:start#installation
(i.e. the one about combining it with postfix?)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346276Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:23:10 +05003346276@Uncensored

 
Sorry... Yes, the spam flag is available through the System Administration Menu (webcit).
 
Thanks for pointing out !
 
Helio.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346186Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:20:03 +05003346186@Uncensored

> you should use webcits setup screen to set this flag.
Unfortunately, that flag (spam flag) is NOT available through the setup screen.
Thanks,
Helio.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3346074Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:38:36 +05003346074@Uncensored

let me rephrase the query.
we own 2 domains - 
mosaic.net.in - with 4 email ids
sandeepsubhash.com - with 10 emails ids.
 
can we set the CITADEL to send and receive emails from one computer  - then set other systems to take emails frm CITADEL SERVER only? then they will not need net access at all times. thus preventing virus attacks on all comps.
 

Fri Oct 26 2012 06:18:32 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel


Fri Oct 26 2012 03:24:41 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

thanks. i have used remote retrieval - it works fine. however never used LMTP - any suggestions?

Thu Oct 25 2012 12:22:48 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

Citadel can fetch emails via pop3.
for other services, you need to use external programms that are able to deliver the mails via lmtp:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve




you only need to use lmtp with other tools so they can inject mails into citadel.
see the faq for more details.




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345913Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:18:32 +05003345913@Uncensored


Fri Oct 26 2012 03:24:41 EDT from mosaic2s @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

thanks. i have used remote retrieval - it works fine. however never used LMTP - any suggestions?

Thu Oct 25 2012 12:22:48 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

Citadel can fetch emails via pop3.
for other services, you need to use external programms that are able to deliver the mails via lmtp:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve




you only need to use lmtp with other tools so they can inject mails into citadel.
see the faq for more details.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345821Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:15:50 +05003345821@Uncensored

 

Fri Oct 26 2012 02:12:13 EDT from BenB @ Uncensored  Subject: Use Citadel Virtual Appliance as a SMTP relay

Hi There,
 
Can someone please tell me how to setup Citadel (I downloaded the VM applicance yesterday - The one running with debian) as an SMTP relay server? I have a number of servers setup in an isolated environment (no external access) and I want to point all those servers to Citadel and have Citadel forward/relay the emails (SNMP trap messages really) to the corporate SMTP server.
 
Can Citadel provide this functionality?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Ben




in fact citadel doesn't support unauthenticated relaying.
you can however use i.e. msmtp on your satelites as mta and configure an account they can send mail through.
Alternatively, create a public room, and make them send their mails there. If you need to receive it elsewhere, subscribe to that room.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345731Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:13:40 +05003345731@Uncensored

you should use webcits setup screen to set this flag.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345642Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:06:38 +05003345642@Uncensored

 

Thu Oct 25 2012 17:59:14 EDT from "alireza sadeh seighalan" <seighalani@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: georgian calendar

hi again
 
infact i need to hijri calendar. 
 
 



On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:53 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan <seighalani@gmail.com> wrote:


hi everyone
 
i need to georgian calendar on citadel server. is there any way for this need?thanks in advance









Short answer: no. only gregorian calendars are supported.
Longer answer:
it seems as if
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-patches/2005-July/msg00142.html
contains a patch to libical to support hirij; however it doesn't seem to have been accepted way back then; it also wasn't merged into upstream libical when the evolution libical was unforked.
I can't seem to find why it was rejected.
If you like to work on this subject, I can help you submitting that patch to libical (once you've made it compile again and revalidated that its working)
Then one could probably switch citadel to work with hirij for a whole installalation relatively easy.
It would probably also the base work to make other opensource calendaring solutions like evolution, Kontact or Thunderbird/Sunbird support hirij.
Per user choice is probably more work.
If you're willing to work on this subject, or find s.b. who is willing to do it for you, feel free to contact me.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345533Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:33:44 +05003345533@Uncensored >  Thu Oct 25 2012 05:35:13 AM EDT from "Stefan Jakobs"
> >>On Fedora, do I need to setup my own service -- e.g. so I can use "service
> >>
> >> citadel start" or similar to start the server?
> >> 
> >  Use systemd to start the service:
> > systemctl start citadel.service
> > systemctl start webcit.service
> > systemctl start webcits.service
> > 
> > sysvinit is deprecated (and not supported) on fedora.
> > 
> > But you must run citadel-setup (/sbin/citadel-setup) before you can start
> > citadel.service. And don't create a init script with setup, it won't work.
> > 
> >>I just installed Citadel on Fedora 17 using the information from the Doku,
> >>and using the repository on the opensuse.org site, and the installation
> >>went without a hitch, but the processes were not started, and I had to
> >>start them myself using "sudo citserver". The process ran fine after I
> >>started it, but I need to automate it.
> >> 
> >> Did I miss a step on the installation, or do I need to create my own
> >> service script - or maybe copy the script from my old Ubuntu machine?
> >> 
> > Regards 
> > Stefan
> 
> Really? Strangely, when I run "service citadel start", it says
> 
> >Redirecting to /bin/systemctl start citadel.service
> 
> So it would seem that, yes, init is not supported, but Fedora assists by
> redirecting calls for me.

Yes, of course. But it is still systemd which starts the daemon.

By the way: There is an other configuration file for citadel 
/etc/sysconfig/citadel (and also /etc/sysconfig/webcit). Have a look a that 
one, too.

Regards
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345443Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:24:41 +05003345443@Uncensored

thanks. i have used remote retrieval - it works fine. however never used LMTP - any suggestions?
 

Thu Oct 25 2012 12:22:48 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: external emails in and out using citadel

Citadel can fetch emails via pop3.
for other services, you need to use external programms that are able to deliver the mails via lmtp:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345347Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:12:13 +05003345347@Uncensored

Hi There,
 
Can someone please tell me how to setup Citadel (I downloaded the VM applicance yesterday - The one running with debian) as an SMTP relay server? I have a number of servers setup in an isolated environment (no external access) and I want to point all those servers to Citadel and have Citadel forward/relay the emails (SNMP trap messages really) to the corporate SMTP server.
 
Can Citadel provide this functionality?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Ben

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345209Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:05:12 +05003345209@Uncensored

Hi:

   Could someone explain to me the following, please ?

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:appproto:system_config

 
>CONF (get or set global CONFiguration options)

>Retrieves or sets various system-wide configuration and policy options. This command is only available to Aides. The sole parameter accepted is a command, >which should be either GET or SET. If the GET command succeeds, CONF will return LISTING_FOLLOWS followed by the fields described below, one line at a >time. If the SET command succeeds, CONF will return SEND_LISTING and expect the fields described below, one line at a time (don't worry about other fields >being added in the future; if a 'short' configuration list is sent, the missing values at the end will be left unchanged on the system). If either command fails for >any reason, ERROR is returned.

>66     c_spam_flag_only     set to 1 to flag spam instead of rejecting it
 
How do I set the flag ???
 
Thanks,
Helio.
 

        


 
 
 

 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 



 
 

 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


 
 
 


66
c_spam_flag_only
set to 1 to flag spam instead of rejecting it


67
c_guest_logins
set to 1 to allow anonymous guest logins


68
c_port_number
Listening port number for Citadel client protocol


69
c_ctdluid
User id (uid) under which Citadel server will run




]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345115Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:59:14 +05003345115@Uncensoredhi again

infact i need to hijri calendar. 




On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:53 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan <seighalani@gmail.com> wrote:

hi everyone

i need to georgian calendar on citadel server. is there any way for this need?thanks in advance

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3345020Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:23:32 +05003345020@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344999Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:20:09 +05003344999@Uncensoredhi everyone


i wan to create a room that visible by everyone but only the owner of it can change it. for example i want to room calnedar that everyone see it but only owner of it can put values on it. thanks in advance
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344905Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:11:10 +05003344905@Uncensored

 

Thu Oct 25 2012 06:50:53 PM UTC from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

 

Wed Oct 24 2012 03:45:14 PM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

When you ran /usr/local/citadel/setup, did it not ask you about starting the software automatically (at which point it would have created and enabled the appropriate rc scripts)?
 




 
There is no /usr/local/citadel/setup. In fact there is no citadel directory in /usr/local




In that case, you'll need to look for that setup file in whichever directory citadel was installed.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344805Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:55:52 +05003344805@Uncensored

 

Thu Oct 25 2012 05:35:13 AM EDT from "Stefan Jakobs" <stefan@localside.net>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions
Am Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2012, 21:35:15 schrieben Sie:

On Fedora, do I need to setup my own service -- e.g. so I can use "service
 citadel start" or similar to start the server?
 
Use systemd to start the service:
 systemctl start citadel.service
 systemctl start webcit.service
 systemctl start webcits.service
 
 sysvinit is deprecated (and not supported) on fedora.
 
 But you must run citadel-setup (/sbin/citadel-setup) before you can start 
 citadel.service. And don't create a init script with setup, it won't work.
 

I just installed Citadel on Fedora 17 using the information from the Doku,
 and using the repository on the opensuse.org site, and the installation went
 without a hitch, but the processes were not started, and I had to start
 them myself using "sudo citserver". The process ran fine after I started
 it, but I need to automate it.
 
 Did I miss a step on the installation, or do I need to create my own service
 script - or maybe copy the script from my old Ubuntu machine?
 
Regards
 Stefan

Really? Strangely, when I run "service citadel start", it says

Redirecting to /bin/systemctl start citadel.service

So it would seem that, yes, init is not supported, but Fedora assists by redirecting calls for me.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344713Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:53:40 +05003344713@Uncensored

 

Wed Oct 24 2012 05:20:59 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

as you might have noticed that fedora doesn't offer a configuration integration for packages.
your setup binary is..
http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.the.debs.put.them
in /usr/lib/citadel/setup
after that citadel should be registered via the regular init scripts.




 
There is no /usr/lib/citadel/setup -- the directory is there, and it contains:

aidepost
base64
chkpw
chkpwd
migrate_aliases.sh
msgform

But no setup binary
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344621Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:50:53 +05003344621@Uncensored

 

Wed Oct 24 2012 03:45:14 PM EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

When you ran /usr/local/citadel/setup, did it not ask you about starting the software automatically (at which point it would have created and enabled the appropriate rc scripts)?
 




 
There is no /usr/local/citadel/setup. In fact there is no citadel directory in /usr/local
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344508Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:22:48 +05003344508@Uncensored

Citadel can fetch emails via pop3.
for other services, you need to use external programms that are able to deliver the mails via lmtp:
http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344362Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:35:13 +05003344362@Uncensored On Fedora, do I need to setup my own service -- e.g. so I can use "service
> citadel start" or similar to start the server?

Use systemd to start the service:
systemctl start citadel.service
systemctl start webcit.service
systemctl start webcits.service

sysvinit is deprecated (and not supported) on fedora.

But you must run citadel-setup (/sbin/citadel-setup) before you can start 
citadel.service. And don't create a init script with setup, it won't work.

> I just installed Citadel on Fedora 17 using the information from the Doku,
> and using the repository on the opensuse.org site, and the installation went
> without a hitch, but the processes were not started, and I had to start
> them myself using "sudo citserver". The process ran fine after I started
> it, but I need to automate it.
> 
> Did I miss a step on the installation, or do I need to create my own service
> script - or maybe copy the script from my old Ubuntu machine?

Regards
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344272Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:33:47 +05003344272@Uncensored

Hello,
We are using CITADEL successfully as an email server within our small group. We use its remote retrieval facility also at times.
In our group, there are certain machines with no access to internet. Is it possible to use CITADEL to fetch and send GMAILS for such machines?
 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344181Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:29:46 +05003344181@Uncensored

were you able to work it out?
 

Mon Jul 02 2012 10:38:22 AM EDT from "Andreas Schneider" <andreas.schneider@aksdb.de>  Subject: Retrieving external mail
Hello,
 
 I may have send this message to the wrong room before, so here I go
 again:
 
 I'm currently trying to setup external mail retrieval for some of my
 users. The internal fetch-mail of Citadel doesn't quite fit our needs,
 since it doesn't post-process messages (filter and spam check) and it
 is pop3 only.
 
 My next choice was getmail and fetchmail. Unfortunately, I can't
 figure out how to correctly use them with Citadel. Configuring the
 source is not the problem, but I don't know what the correct target
 is. Since Citadel stores emails in an internal DB I don't have a
 maildir to put mails into. I also wasn't able to find Citadel's MDA to
 deliver local mails ... i.e. the procmail equivalent of Citadel.
 
 Can someone give me a fe

 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3344080Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:40:57 +05003344080@Uncensored

 

Wed Oct 24 2012 05:20:59 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Installation on Fedora -- Quick questions

as you might have noticed that fedora doesn't offer a configuration integration for packages.
your setup binary is..
http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.the.debs.put.them
in /usr/lib/citadel/setup
after that citadel should be registered via the regular init scripts.




 
Thanks, I didn't look at that page because I wasn't using Easy Install and, being on Fedora, I wasn't using debs. And also, the installation process made no indication I was supposed to run the setup script. I'll give that a go. Thanks.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343928Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:20:59 +05003343928@Uncensored

as you might have noticed that fedora doesn't offer a configuration integration for packages.
your setup binary is..
http://citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.the.debs.put.them
in /usr/lib/citadel/setup
after that citadel should be registered via the regular init scripts.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343820Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:45:14 +05003343820@Uncensored

When you ran /usr/local/citadel/setup, did it not ask you about starting the software automatically (at which point it would have created and enabled the appropriate rc scripts)?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343728Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:35:15 +05003343728@Uncensored

On Fedora, do I need to setup my own service -- e.g. so I can use "service citadel start" or similar to start the server?
I just installed Citadel on Fedora 17 using the information from the Doku, and using the repository on the opensuse.org site, and the installation went without a hitch, but the processes were not started, and I had to start them myself using "sudo citserver". The process ran fine after I started it, but I need to automate it.
Did I miss a step on the installation, or do I need to create my own service script - or maybe copy the script from my old Ubuntu machine?
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343109Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:39:53 +05003343109@Uncensored

 

Sat Oct 06 2012 06:28:49 PM EDT from jame  Subject: Net::Citadel v0.15

Version v0.15 of the Perl module Net::Citadel has been uploaded and is now available on CPAN.  (It is not currently available in Debian due to an issue with the packaging.) 


Net::Citadel v0.16 is now available on CPAN and is also available in Debian unstable. 
Note that it is not likely to migrate to Debian testing yet because of the freeze, and likely won't migrate to Ubuntu (which does have the old v0.02 version) until after the Ubuntu v12.10 release.
 
Jame
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343108Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:34:36 +05003343108@Uncensored

I wonder if  the documentation for one of the lines returned by the INFO command as listed in the online Citadel documentation needs updating.  Specifically;   line 22 is noted there as being for the "SVN repository revision code", but what it looks like when you run the command (found while testing the function for it in Net::Citadel) is the 7 character version of a GIT commit.
Jame
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343107Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:47:21 +05003343107@Uncensored

 

Wed Oct 17 2012 02:33:52 PM UTC from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored 

Those utilities have been removed. They will eventually reappear in ctdlsh, which is destined to replace the text client as the preferred command line administration tool. 



Ah...ok.
I've always thought that removing utilities in favor of a new utility would happen when the new utility was released/in use, but there are many ways to skin a cat.
As always, thanks for replying and giving me the appropriate clue.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343106Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:45:31 +05003343106@Uncensored

 

Wed Oct 17 2012 07:23:03 AM UTC from dothebart @ Uncensored 


Tue Oct 16 2012 08:19:59 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored 

Question #2...are the "whobbs" and "userlist" command line executables no longer included/compiled as of 8.15 or by easyinstall? I'm noticing that the 8.15 easyinstall that I did on my EC2 instance didn't install newer versions of those two executables.


yes, I think IG removed them.
sendcommand RWHO
should do at least what you want for one of those?
did you actualy use them?




Yes, I did use them.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3343017Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:55:41 +05003343017@Uncensored

Hi:
 
   Sure, sure. I understand how the filter works. I don't know HOW TO SET the flag in the Citadel system...
That's killing me ! :)
 
I just need to know how to set the flag on the Citadel system.
 
Thanks,
Helio.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3342901Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:37:29 +05003342901@Uncensored

You then have to use sieve to evaluate the...
X-Spam-Level
and
X-Spam-Status
headers to move the mails into a spam folder.

Mo Okt 22 2012 21:18:42 CEST von heliocoelhojr @ Uncensored  Betreff: SPAM - how to only Flag

Hi:
 
I've read all the docs and FAQ but I was unable to set the following flag:



66
c_spam_flag_only

set to 1 to flag spam instead of rejecting it




(From: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:appproto:system_config#commandsthatchangethebehaviorofthiscitadelsystem )
 
Doing so the spamassassin module in Citadel would only FLAG spam mail.
 
How can I set this flag ? How do I proceed ?
 
Thanks,
Helio.
 
 





 
-- 
 o__
 _> / _
(_) \(_)...
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3342721Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:18:42 +05003342721@Uncensored

Hi:
 
I've read all the docs and FAQ but I was unable to set the following flag:



66
c_spam_flag_only

set to 1 to flag spam instead of rejecting it




(From: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/documentation:appproto:system_config#commandsthatchangethebehaviorofthiscitadelsystem )
 
Doing so the spamassassin module in Citadel would only FLAG spam mail.
 
How can I set this flag ? How do I proceed ?
 
Thanks,
Helio.
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3342379Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:40:15 +05003342379@Uncensored

you can kill it with -11, and it then will produce a coredump if you followed the Instructions in the faq.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3342279Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:51:28 +05003342279@Uncensored

Thank you for reply
citserver hang-up but keep running, this reason it do not generate core dump. During hang, do not respond connections.
Ok, i must send you log details just when hang, but risk is great, i have a important client using it.
Meanwhile i'm doing shutdown using sendcommand DOWN all night, wait ten seconds and restart citserver. If this method is not risky, i can live happy
If server hang again, i will take shoot of syslog file and will send us
Thank you again

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3342188Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:39:06 +05003342188@Uncensored

select'ing on a closed fd (0) isn't that bad after all, and probably not the reason for your hangs.
to actualy track & solve the problem, we would need some more information:
  - does it keep filehandles / network connections which are in close_wait state? (netstat, lsof) http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:net#networking
  - does it fail to terminate sessions? (sendcommand RWHO)
  - if its blocked, can you generate a core file? http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:gdb#debugging

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3342065Sat, 20 Oct 2012 03:40:42 +05003342065@Uncensored


	 

	

		Fri Oct 19 2012 17:00:13 CEST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored 
	

		

			

				Haha, this will be more of a christmas holidays thing. When nobody

				is at the office (but will call my in request why the server is
			

			Actually I was poking fun at your spelling. I'm assuming you meant "customers" not "costumers"
	


	I see :D

	I especially mix them up, when I think about which of those is the correct one.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3341948Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:14:35 +05003341948@Uncensored

Hello Citadel community
Last months my citserver is hanging approx two or tree times per month. I have compiled old version 8.04 showing the problem, and just now i'm using 8.14 and problem is still persists.
Checking syslog reports, first hours syslog show all good, but after several days running citserver shows:
Context: [47599]SRV[IMAPS] Session ended.
Oct 19 01:28:18 mail citserver[11130]: select() failed: (Bad file descriptor)
Oct 19 01:28:18 mail citserver[11130]: select() failed: (Bad file descriptor)
Oct 19 01:28:18 mail citserver[11130]: select() failed: (Bad file descriptor)
Oct 19 01:28:18 mail citserver[11130]: select() failed: (Bad file descriptor)
per each Session ended.
I have done workaround restarting citserver all day at midnight but it is a poor solution.
Hope learn a solution from us.
 
Edu
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3341780Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:00:13 +05003341780@UncensoredHaha, this will be more of a christmas holidays thing. When nobody  
 >is at the office (but will call my in request why the server is  
  
 Actually I was poking fun at your spelling.  I'm assuming you meant "customers"
not "costumers" 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3341542Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:00:38 +05003341542@Uncensored


	 

	

		Thu Oct 18 2012 17:06:11 CEST from the_mgt @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: aide user in ldap
	

		

			 
		

			

				Fri Oct 12 2012 10:23:01 CEST from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: aide user in ldap
			

				See my other mail for more information, but just to notice: Citadel

				apparently uses the uid to identify the user. Ldap and userPassword do

				the rest.

				 
		
		

			I got my libvirt system configured with SASL/GSSAPI authing against my samba4 AD again! So finally I found time to set up some virtual machines for testing purposes again. ATM, I am installing ClearOS6 and will have a pure LDAP server up and running in the evening. I will then try to get Citadel installed and using that LDAP, since I will need this with some costumers sites soon anyway. Then I can have a look at your troubles, Mr. Grishnak ;)
	


	So, as you can see in the following picture:

	login name: postmeister

	first name: Willie

	last name: Mailman

	Only if you choose "Willie Mailman" as your citadel administrator account in setup, he will be registered as an aide. If you use "postmeister", he won't be. Thats about the same situation as with Active Directory.

	

	http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-508088d79937c8.50613305.jpg URL to the above picture.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3341452Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:12:48 +05003341452@Uncensored


	Haha, this will be more of a christmas holidays thing. When nobody is at the office (but will call my in request why the server is down...) 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3341348Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:40:47 +05003341348@Uncensoredwill need this with some costumers sites soon anyway. Then I can have  
  
 Oh yeah, Halloween is coming up, isn't it. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3341218Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:06:11 +05003341218@Uncensored


	 

	

		Fri Oct 12 2012 10:23:01 CEST from "K. Grishnak" <henne.gwath@gmx.de>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: aide user in ldap
	

		See my other mail for more information, but just to notice: Citadel

		apparently uses the uid to identify the user. Ldap and userPassword do

		the rest.

		 

I got my libvirt system configured with SASL/GSSAPI authing against my samba4 AD again! So finally I found time to set up some virtual machines for testing purposes again. ATM, I am installing ClearOS6 and will have a pure LDAP server up and running in the evening. I will then try to get Citadel installed and using that LDAP, since I will need this with some costumers sites soon anyway. Then I can have a look at your troubles, Mr. Grishnak ;)

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Tue Oct 16 2012 08:19:59 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored 

Question #2...are the "whobbs" and "userlist" command line executables no longer included/compiled as of 8.15 or by easyinstall? I'm noticing that the 8.15 easyinstall that I did on my EC2 instance didn't install newer versions of those two executables. 


yes, I think IG removed them.
sendcommand RWHO
should do at least what you want for one of those?
did you actualy use them?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3340545Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:19:59 +05003340545@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3340369Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:56:22 +05003340369@Uncensored

Not sure if this has been asked or answered, yet...but the download site still shows 8.14 as the most recent tarballs, while EasyInstall is delivering 8.15.
Will the download site be updated to include the 8.15 tarballs, soon?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3340258Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:52:11 +05003340258@Uncensored

Opps!, never mind and sorry.
For some reason I forgot to UPGRADE this Citadel server... from 7.86 to 8.xx
::: "3 things we forget with age... 1st the age... and the other two.. errh I forgot."
 

Sat Oct 13 2012 02:19:15 PM EDT from s3cr3to @ Uncensored  Subject: webcit doesn't show messages since [date] or +500pages in Mail room

Regards,
Some background:
One mail user (name it: "Payment") receive a lot of mails currently the webcit summary shows: 10444 messages in Mail room.
This user is using Thunderbird/POP and leaving messages in the server.
 Thunberdird shows all mails from today and past days.
 Our users access their account with Thunberd/POP and only one is external (I'm the only one using IMAP).
This week the "Payment" account is target of spammers.
But Citadel with Spamhaus and spamassassin block them all.
But I want to research a little more and when I log in this account with webcit, here is the issue:

Webcit summary shows 10444 messages in Mail.
I can only see the mails since 2010 to Sep 19 2012, since this date webcit doesn't show any more message.
If I change the view to "Bulletin Board" It only show the old messages and only 500 pages
I try to cheat using: http://server.com/readfwd?page=501, but not luck I got: http://server.com/readfwd?page=501#nonewmsgs

My next step was using the client (citadel) I login as the user and it works:

citadel inform that Mail have 10444 messages.
I check the last 5 messages and they are from today, I check more and exists from yesterday and many days ago.
So yes, Thunderbird "leave messages in server"
The messages are in the Mail room

My questions:

Webcit can't show/handle more thant +10444 messages and 500 pages?
If this an issue related with my current Citadel version 7.86 with WebCit 7.86, server build c08adcea52e85d6139ad158c17eb3d1941df2eb? was installed using the debs or aptitude (oops I can't remember)
This issue can be fixed in this version (some patch) or is fixed in another version?
Citadel is running in a debian squeeze 6.0.6 server with RAID1 software.

Some thoughts, I need to be very careful If I need to upgrade Citadel I can afford to get a "broken" version.
 
A few weeks ago I research some escenarios to upgrade from 7.86 and I learn to upgrade using the .DEBs (using virtualbox)
I really appreciate to know what can be the best/stable next version to upgrade from 7.86. I read some previous posts that I can't revert the upgrade if the DB Berkeley version is greater that the current version.
I have the feeling that I can't backup the full Citadel folders to revert or prevent a broken version/upgrade. (Oh yes, I'm still learning my way in the Linux world.)
Thanks for the help in advance.
 
 




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3340086Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:28:49 +05003340086@Uncensored

Version v0.15 of the Perl module Net::Citadel has been uploaded and is now available on CPAN.  (It is not currently available in Debian due to an issue with the packaging.) Besides working on the existing code, I plan to add functions for the MRTG and the INFO commands.
Note that I am now the maintainer for the module;  feel free to comment here about it if you like.
 
 
Jame
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3339800Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:55:47 +05003339800@Uncensored

 

Sun Oct 14 2012 15:28:18 EDT from Mathew McBride @ comalies  Subject: Re: Connecting to the Calendar with Android and Thunderbird Client

 
Funambol is still an option. The Citadel email connector was discontinued, but not the GroupDAV Calendar/Contacts connector. Sorry if you got confused. You can download the latest server package from here:
http://bionicmessage.net/node/1
and use the community client from the Android market (FunV10).
Let me know if you run into any problems. There is the Citadel+Funambol support room on the network as well as funambol-groupdav @ comalies.citadel.org, or just email me :)
 
- Matt
Funambol GroupDAV developer. 




 
That's great news, thanks for this information. That's going to be my favourite option then, going to check it out later today!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3339703Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:28:18 +05003339703@Uncensored

 

Sat Oct 13 2012 11:41:32 PM PDT from sap @ Uncensored  Subject: Connecting to the Calendar with Android and Thunderbird Client

Hello everybody,
I used ICSSync on my android phone and thunderbird with sync kolab a while back, but didn't really like it. Syncing created double entries etc. pp.
Now I want to give it another try, but I have a couple of questions:
1. Is there any other solution than icssync + sync kolab?
(on the ics-sync howto page they show a option to connect an .ics calendar in lightning as a network calendar, why do I have to use sync kolab instead?)
2. Funambol would be an option, but as far as I've read, the funambol / citadel connector is not developed anymore.
3. As far as I understand, if I use icssync, I have to sync after editing an entry before I edit an entry on another device, since it replaces the calendar? 
3.A) is this right?
3.B) any chance of getting around this?
4. Currently I cannot even connect to my citadel calendar with http://domain.bla/groupdav/Calendar/calendar.ics
Where can I check for reasons for that? icssync tells me no file found and thunderbird (I'm trying without sync kolab right now) doesn't even show the username/pw request.
 
Any help appreciated,
nice sunday to everyone :)




Funambol is still an option. The Citadel email connector was discontinued, but not the GroupDAV Calendar/Contacts connector. Sorry if you got confused. You can download the latest server package from here:
http://bionicmessage.net/node/1
and use the community client from the Android market (FunV10).
Let me know if you run into any problems. There is the Citadel+Funambol support room on the network as well as funambol-groupdav @ comalies.citadel.org, or just email me :)
 
- Matt
Funambol GroupDAV developer. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3339578Sun, 14 Oct 2012 02:41:32 +05003339578@Uncensored

Hello everybody,
I used ICSSync on my android phone and thunderbird with sync kolab a while back, but didn't really like it. Syncing created double entries etc. pp.
Now I want to give it another try, but I have a couple of questions:
1. Is there any other solution than icssync + sync kolab?
(on the ics-sync howto page they show a option to connect an .ics calendar in lightning as a network calendar, why do I have to use sync kolab instead?)
2. Funambol would be an option, but as far as I've read, the funambol / citadel connector is not developed anymore.
3. As far as I understand, if I use icssync, I have to sync after editing an entry before I edit an entry on another device, since it replaces the calendar? 
3.A) is this right?
3.B) any chance of getting around this?
4. Currently I cannot even connect to my citadel calendar with http://domain.bla/groupdav/Calendar/calendar.ics
Where can I check for reasons for that? icssync tells me no file found and thunderbird (I'm trying without sync kolab right now) doesn't even show the username/pw request.
 
Any help appreciated,
nice sunday to everyone :)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3339446Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:19:15 +05003339446@Uncensored

Regards,
Some background:
One mail user (name it: "Payment") receive a lot of mails currently the webcit summary shows: 10444 messages in Mail room.
This user is using Thunderbird/POP and leaving messages in the server.
 Thunberdird shows all mails from today and past days.
 Our users access their account with Thunberd/POP and only one is external (I'm the only one using IMAP).
This week the "Payment" account is target of spammers.
But Citadel with Spamhaus and spamassassin block them all.
But I want to research a little more and when I log in this account with webcit, here is the issue:

Webcit summary shows 10444 messages in Mail.
I can only see the mails since 2010 to Sep 19 2012, since this date webcit doesn't show any more message.
If I change the view to "Bulletin Board" It only show the old messages and only 500 pages
I try to cheat using: http://server.com/readfwd?page=501, but not luck I got: http://server.com/readfwd?page=501#nonewmsgs

My next step was using the client (citadel) I login as the user and it works:

citadel inform that Mail have 10444 messages.
I check the last 5 messages and they are from today, I check more and exists from yesterday and many days ago.
So yes, Thunderbird "leave messages in server"
The messages are in the Mail room

My questions:

Webcit can't show/handle more thant +10444 messages and 500 pages?
If this an issue related with my current Citadel version 7.86 with WebCit 7.86, server build c08adcea52e85d6139ad158c17eb3d1941df2eb? was installed using the debs or aptitude (oops I can't remember)
This issue can be fixed in this version (some patch) or is fixed in another version?
Citadel is running in a debian squeeze 6.0.6 server with RAID1 software.

Some thoughts, I need to be very careful If I need to upgrade Citadel I can afford to get a "broken" version.
 
A few weeks ago I research some escenarios to upgrade from 7.86 and I learn to upgrade using the .DEBs (using virtualbox)
I really appreciate to know what can be the best/stable next version to upgrade from 7.86. I read some previous posts that I can't revert the upgrade if the DB Berkeley version is greater that the current version.
I have the feeling that I can't backup the full Citadel folders to revert or prevent a broken version/upgrade. (Oh yes, I'm still learning my way in the Linux world.)
Thanks for the help in advance.
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3339333Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:56:28 +05003339333@Uncensored

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. Where can I submit the first option of global mail filters as a suggestion for a future Citadel build? I don't have a clue on where to start scripting the filter. I'm not a programmer and was hoping Citadel would met me do this without having to script it. :).
 
I've tried it with both an Email client and using webmail; both show that sent and received messages have a blank line before the message body. A search on Google appears to show that this was a known issue and has attempted fixes but I'm not seeing those fixes applied to my version of Citadel.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3339212Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:20:47 +05003339212@Uncensored

 

Sat Oct 13 2012 07:53:03 EDT from LavaCake @ Uncensored  Subject: Global mail filters, and blank lines in messages

Hi Everyone,
I'm very new to Citadel and Linux servers in general. I'm running Citadel on Debian and it runs great. I have a couple of questions
1. How do I apply a mail filter globally? I want all mail to be forwarded to aspam folder, and then deleted. I have spam assassin and I can make these rules for each account using X-Spam-Status contains "True" but I have over 50 accounts on my server. Is there a way to make a filter apply to all Email accounts?



no, its not doable on a central location.
You could however do it once, see how webcit changes this using firebug, and do it by script with curl for all 50 of your users.



2. At the top of both sent and received messages, there is a blank line. How do I get rid of it? The MIME type for the messages shows multipart/alternative.
I'm using Citadel from the Debian 6 repository. Thanks for your help!


do they also show up using an imap client? in doubt try to use that to delete it.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3339116Sat, 13 Oct 2012 07:53:03 +05003339116@Uncensored

Hi Everyone,
I'm very new to Citadel and Linux servers in general. I'm running Citadel on Debian and it runs great. I have a couple of questions
 
1. How do I apply a mail filter globally? I want all mail to be forwarded to aspam folder, and then deleted. I have spam assassin and I can make these rules for each account using X-Spam-Status contains "True" but I have over 50 accounts on my server. Is there a way to make a filter apply to all Email accounts?
 
2. At the top of both sent and received messages, there is a blank line. How do I get rid of it? The MIME type for the messages shows multipart/alternative.
 
I'm using Citadel from the Debian 6 repository. Thanks for your help!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338812Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:25:33 +05003338812@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338720Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:23:01 +05003338720@Uncensored I can only tell you what the situation looks like on AD installations:
> 
>     On a fresh AD install, you have the Administrator user which has the
>     logonname "Adminstrator" (under Account tab). The other fields under the
>     General tab, First name, Last name and Display name are empty. That is
>     probably what [was] used for testing the AD connectability and it works fine
>     in this case.
>     Now lets choose another [domain] user to become citadel admin, for some
>     reason we choose [h]is logonname to be "Postmaster", fill out his Display
>     name as "Willie the One-Eyed Mailman", his First name as "Willie" and Last
>     name as "Mailman". Now you would think the admin account name you provide to
>     citadel setup is "Postmaster", but no, it would be "Willie the One-Eyed
>     Mailman". So you remove the Display name from the user profile and think
>     that you are now ready for "Postmaster", but no, now it is "Willie Mailman".
>     Only if you leave the general tab completely empty you are finally able to
>     have "Postmaster" as citadel adminstrator.
> 
> I do not know  what the situation in plain LDAP looks like, but if you have more 
> than one way of naming  your user accounts (loginname versus full name or 
> firstname+surname), try the other names in citadel setup to see which one is 
> looked up. And please tell us if this solves your issue.
> 
>     Thu Oct 11 2012 17:39:18 CEST from "Henne Holly" 
>     Subject: aide user in ldap
>     I have a problem using ldap authentication for citadel. It works, but
>     the aide user name is treated as a normal user, so I can't administer my
>     system. How to solve this?
> 
>     I already tried to setup citadel after easyinstall with self-consistent
>     database and then change to ldap, but it will not work...
> 
>     Henning
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338627Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:08:17 +05003338627@Uncensored no aide permissions for admin-account.

How to make this work? Is there anyone for whom this worked? The ldap is
actually the one built by kolab, because I fumbled a bit with that, but
did not get the webmail and so on working.

base: dc=server,dc=eu
bind: cn=nobody,cn=internal,dc=server,dc=eu
pw: phppwhash

nobody can only do queries, like suggested by /usr/local/citadel/setup.

Henning

On 11.10.2012 19:22, dothebart wrote:
>     Thu Oct 11 2012 12:11:42 EDT from "Henne Holly" 
>     Subject: easyinstall with ldap-support
>     Hi,
> 
>     I reinstalled citadel on a new machine to use it with a running
>     ldap-server and made sure that libldap2-dev was installed (ubuntu
>     server). But citadel insists that it had been compiled without ldap
>     support. What should I do?
> 
>     Henning
> 
> have a look at the configure.log in the citadel source directory, and search for 
> ldap.
> 
> there should be some configure trying to compile s.th. which fails; find out why 
> it fails... you're set.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338533Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:07:16 +05003338533@Uncensored


	I can only tell you what the situation looks like on AD installations:

	

		On a fresh AD install, you have the Administrator user which has the logonname "Adminstrator" (under Account tab). The other fields under the General tab, First name, Last name and Display name are empty. That is probably what [was] used for testing the AD connectability and it works fine in this case.

		Now lets choose another [domain] user to become citadel admin, for some reason we choose [h]is logonname to be "Postmaster", fill out his Display name as "Willie the One-Eyed Mailman", his First name as "Willie" and Last name as "Mailman". Now you would think the admin account name you provide to citadel setup is "Postmaster", but no, it would be "Willie the One-Eyed Mailman". So you remove the Display name from the user profile and think that you are now ready for "Postmaster", but no, now it is "Willie Mailman". Only if you leave the general tab completely empty you are finally able to have "Postmaster" as citadel adminstrator.


	I do not know  what the situation in plain LDAP looks like, but if you have more than one way of naming  your user accounts (loginname versus full name or firstname+surname), try the other names in citadel setup to see which one is looked up. And please tell us if this solves your issue.

	

		Thu Oct 11 2012 17:39:18 CEST from "Henne Holly" <henne.gwath@gmx.de>  Subject: aide user in ldap
	

		I have a problem using ldap authentication for citadel. It works, but

		the aide user name is treated as a normal user, so I can't administer my

		system. How to solve this?

		

		I already tried to setup citadel after easyinstall with self-consistent

		database and then change to ldap, but it will not work...

		

		Henning

		 


	 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338357Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:23:19 +05003338357@Uncensored

If you have version errors like I did when setting up Citadel in a virgin copy of Ubuntu, this might help.
If you're wondering, the second line comments out the citadel source repo, since, when I checked, it didn't exist.
 

  sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://ubuntu.citadel.org/ubuntu/ oneiric main'
  sudo sed -i s?^deb-src\ http\://ubuntu.citadel.org/ubuntu/\ oneiric\ main?#deb-src\ http\://ubuntu.citadel.org/ubuntu/\ oneiric\ main? /etc/apt/sources.list

  sudo apt-get -y update


 
  sudo apt-get install citadel-suite


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Thu Oct 11 2012 12:11:42 EDT from "Henne Holly" <henne.gwath@gmx.de>  Subject: easyinstall with ldap-support
Hi,
 
 I reinstalled citadel on a new machine to use it with a running
 ldap-server and made sure that libldap2-dev was installed (ubuntu
 server). But citadel insists that it had been compiled without ldap
 support. What should I do?
 
 Henning
 

have a look at the configure.log in the citadel source directory, and search for ldap.
there should be some configure trying to compile s.th. which fails; find out why it fails... you're set.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338110Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:12:15 +05003338110@Uncensored I have a problem using ldap authentication for citadel. It works, but
> the aide user name is treated as a normal user, so I can't administer my
> system. How to solve this?
> 
> I already tried to setup citadel after easyinstall with self-consistent
> database and then change to ldap, but it will not work...
> 
> Henning
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338109Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:11:42 +05003338109@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3338013Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:39:18 +05003338013@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3337924Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:32:58 +05003337924@Uncensored

Hello there,
I've just installed Citadel 8.15 on Centos 5, and all seems to be well.
I went with all the default options, including internal users.
The only issue is, I can't see the 'Administration' menu item when I login via WebCit. Although when I go to the 'Summary page for [MY UID]', the 'About this server' panel lists [MY UID] as the System Administrator.
Am I missing something here?
Best wishes,
Ben
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3337419Tue, 09 Oct 2012 06:51:40 +05003337419@Uncensored

the outer one right in the tree

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3337294Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:06:26 +05003337294@Uncensored

Thanks very much. How do I determine which process to kill?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3337147Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:26:48 +05003337147@Uncensored

try running pstree -p
and locate the blocking process and kill it.
usualy its working anyways if you run /etc/init.d/citadel start.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3337042Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:41:36 +05003337042@Uncensored

Greetings,
 
I hope no-one minds a n00b question. I followed the instructions at:
 
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:easyinstall:prereq-debian.html
 
and it downloaded and installed all of the required packages and started the Citadel set up. I supplied all of the information requested, and then it asked to restart.

It got to 95% and then just stuck there.
 
Anyone have any quick answer?

Thanks
F
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3336836Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:16:25 +05003336836@Uncensored


Version v0.15 of the Perl module Net::Citadel has been uploaded and is now available on CPAN.  (It is not currently available in Debian due to an issue with the packaging.) Besides working on the existing code, I plan to add functions for the MRTG and the INFO commands.

 And as I noted in my original note (which can't get here just yet due to other networking issues);  I am now the the maintainer for the Net::Citadel module, and I'll be commenting on it here periodically.
One of the reasons I became interested in it to begin with was the possibility of using access to the information from the Citadel MRTG command for use with MRTG itself and perhaps with monitoring programs like Nagios.  That's the kind of thing I'll be working on adding..
 
 
Jame
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3336540Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:03:34 +05003336540@Uncensored

 

Fri Oct 05 2012 02:34:23 EDT from RoboTamer @ Uncensored  Subject: Sharing all rooms between two servers over port 504 ?

 
Hi,
I am back again ;)
I have been through the docs, but don't see anything that would suggest that citadel supports this, but I figure asking wont hurt.
Is  there a way to mirrow all public and private rooms between two servers over port 504?
Without having to specify each and every room that is!
Thanks
RoboTamer




 
Found my answer here:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:systemadmin:standby_server&s[]=replication
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3336249Fri, 05 Oct 2012 02:42:12 +05003336249@Uncensored

 
I just got my self a MiniPC for $35 including shipping, the 1GB DDR3 version
So I turned it in to a server by installing Linux, and then Citadel via apt-get, and all works quite nicely.
Any questions let me know
RoboTamer
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3336159Fri, 05 Oct 2012 02:34:23 +05003336159@Uncensored

 
Hi,
I am back again ;)
I have been through the docs, but don't see anything that would suggest that citadel supports this, but I figure asking wont hurt.
Is  there a way to mirrow all public and private rooms between two servers over port 504?
Without having to specify each and every room that is!
Thanks
RoboTamer
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3336024Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:37:18 +05003336024@Uncensored

qute. thanks for sharing.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3335836Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:50:06 +05003335836@Uncensored

Hello,
want to give a success story and not report a problem,
got a http://RaspberryPi.org with arm, running slackwarearm-14.0 and the original raspbian kernel
compiled citadel-8.14, uptime is a week without any problems
it's not the fastest system in the world, but should be ok for a limited set of users for 24/7 on a dsl connection with only 3Watt
have fun,
cu Frank
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3335746Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:39:10 +05003335746@Uncensored

tried to check your config, cannot reproduce your error using
citadel-8.14 server running on slackware-12.2 or slackware-14.0
and OpenSuse-12.2 KDE kontact, I have a working dns with reverse lookups

created a new calendar
select groupdav resource
input of an existing citadel user/password
select one of these groupware servers: there is already citadel in the list of predefinded groupware servers and I don't have to provide a manual config any more
give hostname or IP of my server, nothing to enter for path (if you have selected citadel in the list of groupware servers there are correct defaults), secure connection is already predefined
test connection, everything is ok for me
but I cannot see the new calendar before I exit kontact and restart kontact, now everything seems to be working

I don't think 7. is a bug of citadel, might be a display bug in kontact, but everything is working after a restart
 
have fun,
Frank
 
 

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		Tue Oct 02 2012 17:28:06 CEST from citadelnewb @ Uncensored  Subject: Citadel 8.15
	

		

			I'm using Lubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and I have tied installing citadel 8.15 however I don't seem to have the repository. I have used another ubuntu repository to obtain 8.14.
	


	There is only a 8.14 tarball on citadel.org, no 8.15 release yet.

	

		The issue i'm having is that whenever i change the authentication mode to active directory i lose all access to the server, meaning the admin user cannot be found. Also none of the users i created via active directory can log in as it keeps saying wron password. I can log n with some master user but this user can't do anyhing administrative.  Please help


	First of all, which AD Server implementation are you using? Microsofts? If so, which specific version? If something else, what exactly. Citadel has been tested with both MS Server 2008 and Samba4 so far.

	Now, to the user issues: With /usr/lib/citadel/setup you can only specify one user to be a Citadel Admin. It does not matter wether this user is a Domain Admin or in any other  group. Citadel is groupagnostic!

	The password you provide to setup is ignored too, you use the password you said in the domain for the domain user. (Beware of password expiring policy.)

	Then, if you deviate from the default Domain Admin account called "Administrator" or if you added additional info to that account in the Domain, beware of this (See http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Development?start_reading_at=3292821 ):

	

		On a fresh AD install, you have the Administrator user which has the logonname "Adminstrator" (under Account tab). The other fields under the General tab, First name, Last name and Display name are empty. That is probably what [was] used for testing the AD connectability and it works fine in this case.
	Now lets choose another [domain] user to become citadel admin, for some reason we choose [h]is logonname to be "Postmaster", fill out his Display name as "Willie the One-Eyed Mailman", his First name as "Willie" and Last name as "Mailman". Now you would think the admin account name you provide to citadel setup is "Postmaster", but no, it would be "Willie the One-Eyed Mailman". So you remove the Display name from the user profile and think that you are now ready for "Postmaster", but no, now it is "Willie Mailman". Only if you leave the general tab completely empty you are finally able to have "Postmaster" as citadel adminstrator.

	Also, only the user you speficy in the setup will be a Citadel Admin, you would then have to promote other users to admin status. They probably should log in first, so that Citadel gets to know them. (Citadel does not scan all your domain accounts, it only cares about those domain accounts that logged into Citadel. I know this sounds ironic, since you seem to not be able to log into Citadel...)

	And a last point, you said " I can log n with some master user but this user can't do anyhing administrative."

	Who is this "master user"? A domain account?

	Regards, the_mgt

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3335414Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:22:50 +05003335414@Uncensored

Hi 
Please also share the details on how to enable mail sent logs 
is there any configuration file where we can enable the logs of mail sent from all users
Thanks 
Tarandeep Singh

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Wed Oct 03 2012 11:57:04 EDT from dothebart  Subject: Re: CITADEL MAIL logs

Citadel logs into the systems log facility.
This is usualy configured to end up in /var/log / [messages | syslog]
however you can make it also go to different locations.
I don't know whether all of your required data is logged already.
 
Hi 
Thanks for your quick reply, Please also share the details on how to enable mail sent logs 
is there any configuration file where we can enable the logs of mail sent from all users
Thanks 
Tarandeep Singh



]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3335375Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:14:37 +05003335375@Uncensored

It seems unlikely that I will have this citadel mail server up and running in time for production. Does anyone recommend using the virtual appliance in a production environment? and (if yes) how would i back it up ?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3335191Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:57:04 +05003335191@Uncensored

Citadel logs into the systems log facility.
This is usualy configured to end up in /var/log / [messages | syslog]
however you can make it also go to different locations.
I don't know whether all of your required data is logged already.
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3335075Wed, 03 Oct 2012 07:51:40 +05003335075@Uncensored

 
Dear Team,
 
i am using Citadel on linux centos server . 
 
My requirement is ,i need to determing the logs path of all the mails which are been sent from my different citadel mail accounts
 
I also require to track the count of mails sent or got failed in delivery on daily basis.
 
please help with the log path and other option if there in citadel
 
thanks
 
regards
Tarandeep Singh
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334984Wed, 03 Oct 2012 07:47:12 +05003334984@Uncensored

Dear Team,
 
i am using Citadel on linux centos server . 
 
My requirement is ,i need to determing the logs path of all the mails which are been sent from my different citadel mail accounts
 
I also require to track the count of mails sent or got failed in delivery on daily basis.
 
please help with the log path and other option if there in citadel
 
thanks
 
regards
Tarandeep Singh
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334875Wed, 03 Oct 2012 06:07:40 +05003334875@Uncensored

Thank you very much, I guess the DH problem might be caused by my cellphone, I'll disable mail access there for testing.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334740Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:59:26 +05003334740@Uncensored

I selected Active Directory as my authentication mode during the install however i always have to set it up when i log in as the administrative user. once i log out and try to log back in it says the user is not found and it does that for any user

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334635Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:28:16 +05003334635@Uncensored

 

Tue Oct 02 2012 11:28:06 EDT from citadelnewb @ Uncensored  Subject: Citadel 8.15

I'm using Lubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and I have tied installing citadel 8.15 however I don't seem to have the repository. I have used another ubuntu repository to obtain 8.14.
 
The issue i'm having is that whenever i change the authentication mode to active directory i lose all access to the server, meaning the admin user cannot be found. Also none of the users i created via active directory can log in as it keeps saying wron password. I can log n with some master user but this user can't do anyhing administrative.  Please help




as mentioned before, switching authentication is not supported.
please run citserver from the commandline. once its finished whith its startup, open a webcit conection.
press enter several times in the log window so you know old lines from new ones.
then try to log into webcit, and have a look at its output.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334548Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:25:57 +05003334548@Uncensored

oh, and about the general messages you posted...
DH -> Diffie Hellman - an encryption algorithm
i'd say you have two situations here.
some client tries to connect, but doesn't do a proper ssl handshake
another client goes away while citserver is still sending it the i.e. mail it requested. This takes a while to be discovered, since not all routines have a way to stop sending whenever the connection goes away.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334460Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:22:53 +05003334460@Uncensored

please have a look at
http://code.citadel.org/?p=citadel.git;a=blob;f=citadel/techdoc/logging.txt;h=425683d346308fc56f5e2a4d29442614b64be3b8;hb=685ec9e14a8e40839ce5c9e1e01cc006e4531c99
you need to find out which login it was, this howto describes this for citadel 8.1x

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334275Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:28:06 +05003334275@Uncensored

I'm using Lubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and I have tied installing citadel 8.15 however I don't seem to have the repository. I have used another ubuntu repository to obtain 8.14.
 
The issue i'm having is that whenever i change the authentication mode to active directory i lose all access to the server, meaning the admin user cannot be found. Also none of the users i created via active directory can log in as it keeps saying wron password. I can log n with some master user but this user can't do anyhing administrative.  Please help 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3334139Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:20:27 +05003334139@Uncensored

Hello everybody,
I'm "testing" citadel for quite some time now, but what was a test first became my running setup without actually looking into a few problems up to now. My life isn't depending on it, so don't blame me of acting unresponsable (although you still can ;) ), I barely have time to look into it, but I thought I'd give it a shot for now.
I'm running citadel 7.86-97 on a ubuntu machine. I got several users set up, mostly using webcit or imap to connect to the server. What I am concerned about or at least what's bugging me are serveral error and notification messages "flooding" my log files.
Oct  2 12:41:03 mydomain citadel: SSL_accept failed: retval=-1, errval=5, err=error:00000005:lib(0):func(0):DH lib
and
Oct  2 12:41:03 mydomain citadel: client_write(49 bytes) failed: Broken pipe (32)
The amount of bytes are not always the same though.
 
How can I check who is trying to connect with SSL and fails?
What are these broken pipe messages about?
Any help appreciated...

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3333848Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:06:49 +05003333848@Uncensored

 

Mon Oct 01 2012 09:54:03 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: "The server failed to start - check your configuration"

since you're probably running squeeze, which is about to become 'oldstable' once wheezy is ready...
please have a look at:
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:debian




 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3333723Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:54:03 +05003333723@Uncensored

since you're probably running squeeze, which is about to become 'oldstable' once wheezy is ready...
please have a look at:
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:debian

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3333613Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:08:47 +05003333613@Uncensored

 

Mon Oct 01 2012 03:47:08 AM EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: "The server failed to start - check your configuration"

 

Sun Sep 30 2012 20:21:39 CEST from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: "The server failed to start - check your configuration"

 

user@VirtualBox:~$ sudo citserver
2012/09/30 18:46:26.363168 
2012/09/30 18:46:26.364621 
2012/09/30 18:46:26.364758 *** Citadel server engine v7.86 (build 964ee25a7f22cc7b6cc75b921815cea42e5ae7f3) ***
2012/09/30 18:46:26.364972 Copyright (C) 1987-2010 by the Citadel development team.

 


What I do not get is, why recent versions of debian based distros ship  two years old citadel suite. You might have better luck with more recent repos. We are currently at v8.14 and there were lots of bugs exterminated and some features added.




Okay, maybe I need to add an additional repo. What is the "official" one, considering the version of Citadel in the default repo is evidently out of date?
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		Sun Sep 30 2012 20:21:39 CEST from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: "The server failed to start - check your configuration"
	

		

			 
		

			

				user@VirtualBox:~$ sudo citserver
			

				2012/09/30 18:46:26.363168 
			

				2012/09/30 18:46:26.364621 
			

				2012/09/30 18:46:26.364758 *** Citadel server engine v7.86 (build 964ee25a7f22cc7b6cc75b921815cea42e5ae7f3) ***
			

				2012/09/30 18:46:26.364972 Copyright (C) 1987-2010 by the Citadel development team.
		
		

			 
	


	What I do not get is, why recent versions of debian based distros ship  two years old citadel suite. You might have better luck with more recent repos. We are currently at v8.14 and there were lots of bugs exterminated and some features added.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3333407Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:16:31 +05003333407@Uncensored

 

Sun Sep 30 2012 03:16:46 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: "The server failed to start - check your configuration"

 

Sun Sep 30 2012 14:21:39 EDT from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: "The server failed to start - check your configuration"
I get this:
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397380 Compiled db: Berkeley DB 5.1.19: (August 27, 2010)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397531   Linked db: Berkeley DB 5.1.25: (January 28, 2011)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397677 Calculated dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397784   Previous dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/30 18:46:26.398178 bdb(): Setting up DB environmentNow, bear in mind that this is a virgin install -- in other words, I have just installed the OS, and done nothing else.




you musn't change the berkeley db version; it has to remain the same.
if you compile a new version, you can upgrade berkeley db version, but never downgrade.




But that is precisely the point. I *haven't* changed anything. This is the FIRST time I have installed Citadel on this particular machine, so I haven't changed any BDB settings or installations. I haven't manually compiled anything. The installation of Citadel was done after the stock install of Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Mint was completed, and the OS install was done with default settings -- no additional installed packages or anything.
From the fragment you have copied, I presume the version currently in the OS is 5.1.19, but Citadel is expecting 5.1.25? So would I need to install 5.1.25 somehow?
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Sun Sep 30 2012 14:21:39 EDT from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: "The server failed to start - check your configuration"
I get this:
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397380 Compiled db: Berkeley DB 5.1.19: (August 27, 2010)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397531   Linked db: Berkeley DB 5.1.25: (January 28, 2011)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397677 Calculated dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397784   Previous dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/30 18:46:26.398178 bdb(): Setting up DB environmentNow, bear in mind that this is a virgin install -- in other words, I have just installed the OS, and done nothing else.




you musn't change the berkeley db version; it has to remain the same.
if you compile a new version, you can upgrade berkeley db version, but never downgrade.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3333112Sun, 30 Sep 2012 14:21:39 +05003333112@Uncensored

I'm trying to install Citadel to a virgin install in a Virtual Machine (VirtualBox). I have done this on the following linux distros:
Ubuntu
Lubuntu
Linux Mint
And each time, after running

sudo apt-get install citadel-suite

And configuring Citadel at the message box screen, I get the message "server failed to start - check your settings"
If I kill any citserver processes running, then do:

sudo citserver

I get this:

user@VirtualBox:~$ sudo citserver
2012/09/30 18:46:26.363168 
2012/09/30 18:46:26.364621 
2012/09/30 18:46:26.364758 *** Citadel server engine v7.86 (build 964ee25a7f22cc7b6cc75b921815cea42e5ae7f3) ***
2012/09/30 18:46:26.364972 Copyright (C) 1987-2010 by the Citadel development team.
2012/09/30 18:46:26.365103 This program is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
2012/09/30 18:46:26.365218 
2012/09/30 18:46:26.365347 Called as: citserver
2012/09/30 18:46:26.365455 $Id$
2012/09/30 18:46:26.365587 Loading citadel.config
2012/09/30 18:46:26.366174 Acquiring control record
2012/09/30 18:46:26.390844 Registered server command STLS (Start SSL/TLS session)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.396653 Registered server command GTLS (Get SSL/TLS session status)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.396795 Registered a new session function (type 0)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.396979 master_startup() started
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397114 Opening databases
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397250 bdb(): open_databases() starting
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397380 Compiled db: Berkeley DB 5.1.19: (August 27, 2010)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397531   Linked db: Berkeley DB 5.1.25: (January 28, 2011)
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397677 Calculated dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/30 18:46:26.397784   Previous dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/30 18:46:26.398030 Linked zlib: 1.2.3.4
2012/09/30 18:46:26.398178 bdb(): Setting up DB environment
2012/09/30 18:46:26.399170 dbenv->open(dbenv, /var/lib/citadel/data/, 19091, 0)
Finding last valid log LSN: file: 1 offset 112998
Recovery starting from [1][28]
Recovery complete at Sun Sep 30 18:46:26 2012
Maximum transaction ID 8000001a Recovery checkpoint [1][114077]
2012/09/30 18:46:26.479572 Starting up DB
2012/09/30 18:46:26.481490 Checking floor reference counts
2012/09/30 18:46:26.485317 DB: not a restored transaction
2012/09/30 18:46:26.485486 DB: PANIC: Invalid argument
2012/09/30 18:46:26.485513 bdb(): PANIC: Invalid argument
2012/09/30 18:46:26.485556 bdb(): txn_commit: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery

Now, bear in mind that this is a virgin install -- in other words, I have just installed the OS, and done nothing else.
Even if I update and upgrade all available package (apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade), I still have the same problem. Is there an error with how the software has been packaged on the repository, or can someone explain why I get this error from a completely fresh installation?
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Wed Sep 26 2012 09:44:34 EDT from snewbe @ Uncensored  Subject: Kontact & citadel

Hi for all:
 
I need answer for some questions.
I have running a citadel server without external mail or connecions. We are using via Webcit. We have OpenSuse with KDE Desktops.
Id like to know how configure Kontact with Citadel. I need to know how to configure calendars, address books etc. If I create a new calendar on Korganizar (for example) I select "DAV Groupware resource" -> Then username & pass (like test - password) -> Select server typ (Citadel) -> Server & path (I select 192.168.1.18 and path is empty) url shows http://192.168.1.18/groupdav/.
Then I push "test connection" and shows sucesfull.
I click OK and nothing happen. No new Calendar appears. If I go to edit the config the resource appears with the green dot. I edit the config to test retreiving. Nothing happens. No error no information retreval...
I am sure that I forget do something... but... what?
Can you help me?
 
Lots of Thanks.




are you shure kontact expects a groupdav server here? not caldav?
usualy the most promising solution is to use kolab1 mode.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332874Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:55:31 +05003332874@Uncensored

At long last I have successfully installed citadel-server 8.14 and i'm able to do a little basic configuration. For those with Debian 6 and installing from the package manager, I received dependency errors when selecting all the packages for install. To solve this I did'nt install the citadel-suite but rather  (in this order)
1. citadel-server
2. citadel MTA
3. everything else
The configuration is a very simple one to get it up and running then once in you can tweak as needed (I assume from my experience)
Log in with the admin account you specified in the installation process with no password.
 
Thanks to dothebart for all the patience and advice. 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332757Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:05:42 +05003332757@Uncensored

I made adjustments to the package repository as directed on the citadel site: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=installation:debian
I'm now running citadel 8.14, however still unable to access the web interface. Now receiving this error:
 
Failed to adjust ownership of /etc/citadel/netconfigs/7 [no such file or directory]
 
These problems never cease 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332657Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:03:05 +05003332657@Uncensored

I am using the password of the AD user and yes it does happen for EVERY user account. Is there any way to get citadel 8.04 or 8.15 from the package manager? I've used it with the viirtual appliance and it seems to be working ok, my installs however aren't. I'm currently running Debian 6

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332558Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:07:55 +05003332558@Uncensored


	 

	

		Sat Sep 29 2012 13:35:09 CEST from citadelnewb @ Uncensored  Subject: citadel keeps telling me the password is incorrect


	

		

			I have since abandoned Lubuntu in favor of Debian 6. Citadel is now instaled, however I am unable to log into the web interface as it keeps saying the password is incorrect.  I instaalled using the Synaptic package manager. I'm also usnig Active Directory authentication. I am certain that the password being entered is correct.
	
	

		Which user are you using? If you use AD, it is the password of the AD account, not a password you spedified with citadel-setup.
	

		Does this happen with every user? At least "password is incorrect" should mean that citadel is looking up your user in the AD, else you would get a "User not found" error.
	

		Is your password longer than 12 chars, contains lots of random chars, underscores?
	

		 


	 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332468Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:55:38 +05003332468@Uncensored

did you follow this faq?
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:installation:msadsso

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332378Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:50:50 +05003332378@Uncensored

pop3 aggregators should remain.
they are stored in the netconfigs directory. (see http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.the.debs.put.them )
if thats not writeable or full, or saving fails for another reason, citadel usually logs this.
alternatively you can use i.e. fetchmail:
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:favoriteclient:how_do_i_retrieve&s[]=fetchmail

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332238Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:35:09 +05003332238@Uncensored

I have since abandoned Lubuntu in favor of Debian 6. Citadel is now instaled, however I am unable to log into the web interface as it keeps saying the password is incorrect.  I instaalled using the Synaptic package manager. I'm also usnig Active Directory authentication. I am certain that the password being entered is correct.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3332050Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:59:16 +05003332050@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3331830Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:12:19 +05003331830@Uncensored

Is there anybody here? do we have anybody to answer our questions? I am working with this mail server and after 10 days not yet able to make it pull emails from our webmail server...

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3331695Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:47:38 +05003331695@Uncensored

I have upgraded, but I will not know for maybe as long as a month if it fixed the issue or not.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3331602Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:10:01 +05003331602@Uncensored

Hi,
 
I'm running a citadel server on a opensuse machine for several years now and I'm very pleased with it (started with easyinstall, using the homueller repo now on 12.1).
Since a few weeks there is a strange phenomenom, all the mail folders are empty on webcit although the mails are still there any can be fetched via IMAP.
Calendars, notes, tasks and contacs are shown correct.
How can I fix this?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3331386Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:14:45 +05003331386@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3331364Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:49:06 +05003331364@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3331170Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:44:34 +05003331170@Uncensored

Hi for all:
 
I need answer for some questions.
I have running a citadel server without external mail or connecions. We are using via Webcit. We have OpenSuse with KDE Desktops.
Id like to know how configure Kontact with Citadel. I need to know how to configure calendars, address books etc. If I create a new calendar on Korganizar (for example) I select "DAV Groupware resource" -> Then username & pass (like test - password) -> Select server typ (Citadel) -> Server & path (I select 192.168.1.18 and path is empty) url shows http://192.168.1.18/groupdav/.
Then I push "test connection" and shows sucesfull.
I click OK and nothing happen. No new Calendar appears. If I go to edit the config the resource appears with the green dot. I edit the config to test retreiving. Nothing happens. No error no information retreval...
I am sure that I forget do something... but... what?
Can you help me?
 
Lots of Thanks.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3331054Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:43:29 +05003331054@Uncensored

Dear all
I am trying to configue the remote retrieval bu everytime I insert a remote retrival then press add I can see the info as saved info but when I log out then login to the account inside my mail server there is no remore retrival anymore!
Also my mail server doesn't get the email that I sent to the webmail account that I added in remote retrival.
 
I have one more question: is that possible to add gmail account in remote retrival?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3330794Tue, 25 Sep 2012 04:53:14 +05003330794@Uncensored

Hi
Were you able to fix this error? cause I have the same error now and I don't know how to fix it.
 
Thank you so much

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3330558Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:58:36 +05003330558@Uncensored

 

Mon Sep 24 2012 07:45:16 EDT from michaelmd @ Uncensored  Subject: federated social networks - and - federated events listings

I see some mention of federation ...
is it happening?



yes, definitely. the IGnet Unlimited room over here on uncensored is used to coordinate this for this citadel network.



can rooms be federated across different servers and plaforms?



yes. you can use citadel federation, RSS-Feeds/aggregation, SMTP via mailinglists, pop3 aggregation.



Being one of those older types who started out on usenet and fidonet, I'm finding today's big commercial social networks way too centralised (scary) and not really social enough!
There are a few federated new-school social networks emerging out there (recently taken a quite liking to Friendica) but I think all platforms could gain hugely if they could more easily connect to each other.
Could a Citadel room on one site be federated with a "community forum" on a Friendica site?
(most likely connectors would have to be written - but if people want it, it is possible to build, I'm actually asking this to see what people here feel about this kind of thing)
The fact that Citadel is written in c might help make it more scalable than php based platforms (like Friendica and Lorea) or ruby-based platforms (Diaspora, etc)
...so I'm here having a look around...
-- also ---
I've been running an events community website for many years (since 1994) and am quite keen to get some kind of federated events listings thing going
(gig-guide-like stuff where all connected sites can both read and add events listings - decentralised, not depending on any one site)


the problem about at least diaspora was, that there was no intend to develop, document & stabilize the federation API.
Currently all of citservers federation protocols are implemented using event driven programming plus libev; so yes, beyound using C as implementation language, its scalable.
 
Though current federations require configuration & administrative privileges; For a social network alike federation that would have to change.
Plus some sort of intelligent protocol (push, not pull+polling as i.e. RSS is... ) would have to be established.
In general, the citadel federation mechanism could be a good start for such a protocol. It supports push & pull operations. Its transmitting more or less mime-messages back and forth.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3330458Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:45:16 +05003330458@Uncensored

I see some mention of federation ...
is it happening?
can rooms be federated across different servers and plaforms?
Being one of those older types who started out on usenet and fidonet, I'm finding today's big commercial social networks way too centralised (scary) and not really social enough!
There are a few federated new-school social networks emerging out there (recently taken a quite liking to Friendica) but I think all platforms could gain hugely if they could more easily connect to each other.
Could a Citadel room on one site be federated with a "community forum" on a Friendica site?
(most likely connectors would have to be written - but if people want it, it is possible to build, I'm actually asking this to see what people here feel about this kind of thing)
 
The fact that Citadel is written in c might help make it more scalable than php based platforms (like Friendica and Lorea) or ruby-based platforms (Diaspora, etc)
 
...so I'm here having a look around...
-- also ---
I've been running an events community website for many years (since 1994) and am quite keen to get some kind of federated events listings thing going
(gig-guide-like stuff where all connected sites can both read and add events listings - decentralised, not depending on any one site)
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3330328Mon, 24 Sep 2012 02:16:54 +05003330328@Uncensored

your ldd looks right.
whats happening if you start that binary? does it keep on running and printing stuff?
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3330236Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:55:56 +05003330236@Uncensored

Where can i find the settings used for setting up the citadel virtual appliance? The virtual appliance works well and i would like to replicate it on another VM since i can't get citadel working on this one.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3330146Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:51:39 +05003330146@Uncensored

HELP!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3330028Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:12:09 +05003330028@Uncensored

I looked at the web link, however as I'm still a newb, I was unable to make any real sense of the material presented. I saw some where that when posting requests for help in this forum Iit would help to post the results of an "ldd ./citserver" command so here goes :
 
root@UMSGR-1:/usr/local/citadel# ldd ./citserver
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00b2b000)
libssl.so.1.0.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 (0x00614000)
libcrypto.so.1.0.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 (0x00110000)
libev.so.4 => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libev.so.4 (0x007d7000)
libcares.so.2 => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libcares.so.2 (0x009fe000)
libcitadel.so.3 => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libcitadel.so.3 (0x002bb000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00f9d000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00cf4000)
libsieve.so.1 => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libsieve.so.1 (0x0052b000)
libical.so.0 => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libical.so.0 (0x002e3000)
libcurl.so.4 => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libcurl.so.4 (0x0033f000)
libexpat.so.1 => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x0038b000)
libdb-4.8.so => /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libdb-4.8.so (0x007e6000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x003b5000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00d76000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x003cd000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00f31000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00c2c000)
root@UMSGR-1:/usr/local/citadel# 
****************************************
I hope that is of benefit in helping to debug my issue. 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329883Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:28:37 +05003329883@Uncensored

this is the mapping between lhfs compatible installs and easy install:
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:file_layout#files.and.where.easy.install.and.the.debs.put.them

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329718Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:17:04 +05003329718@Uncensored

/usr/sbin/citserver does'nt exist.
The citadel packages I installed with Synaptic were removed with Synaptic. I restarted the machine and attempted to install with the easy-install-script. It has been stuck on "Restarting citadel server to apply changes" with 97% completed on the progress bar for the last 1 1/2hrs
 
I tried running service citadel restart but the server doesn't start. The screen remains the same with the progress bar and message unchanged.
 
Any advice? 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329620Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:42:15 +05003329620@Uncensored

please have a look at these faqs:
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:start#troubleshootingyourhostos
try running /usr/sbin/citserver as root, it should give you hints on whats going wrong.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329495Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:00:01 +05003329495@Uncensored

Are there any log files i can check for the synaptic install of citadel-suite 7.86? I really need to get this mail server up and running so i need to troubleshoot this problem quickly

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329348Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:56:59 +05003329348@Uncensored

Can someone advise on how i can install Citadel-Suite 8? I'm hoping the errors i'm experiencing are resolved in the new version.  I'm using Lubuntu 12.04 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329209Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:00:58 +05003329209@Uncensored

Regrettably that has not fixed the situation

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329125Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:51:43 +05003329125@Uncensored

Trying that now

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3329028Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:57:01 +05003329028@Uncensored

if you run as root
dpkg --pending --configure
does it fix your incident?
 
and... maybe ubuntu.citadel.org can offer you a little more modern .debs
Ubuntu is always a little slow in catching up.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328882Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:49:02 +05003328882@Uncensored

Ok the install completed but the citadel server failed to start.  Here's what i did:
 
After the above mentioned commands, I selected the citadel packages using the Synaptic Package Manager then applied the selections. 
The install completed but the citadel server failed to start (i've been at this point too often). here's what i saw from the screen:
 
Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously unselected package wwwconfig-common.
(Reading database ... 131519 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wwwconfig-common (from .../wwwconfig-common_0.2.2_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package javascript-common.
Unpacking javascript-common (from .../javascript-common_8_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libjs-prototype.
Unpacking libjs-prototype (from .../libjs-prototype_1.7.0-2_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libjs-scriptaculous.
Unpacking libjs-scriptaculous (from .../libjs-scriptaculous_1.9.0-2_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libsieve2-1.
Unpacking libsieve2-1 (from .../libsieve2-1_2.2.6-1.1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package tinymce.
Unpacking tinymce (from .../tinymce_3.4.3.2+dfsg0-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libcitadel2.
Unpacking libcitadel2 (from .../libcitadel2_7.86-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package citadel-client.
Unpacking citadel-client (from .../citadel-client_7.86-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package citadel-server.
Unpacking citadel-server (from .../citadel-server_7.86-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package citadel-dbg.
Unpacking citadel-dbg (from .../citadel-dbg_7.86-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package citadel-doc.
Unpacking citadel-doc (from .../citadel-doc_7.86-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package citadel-mta.
Unpacking citadel-mta (from .../citadel-mta_7.86-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package citadel-webcit.
Unpacking citadel-webcit (from .../citadel-webcit_7.86-dfsg-1build2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package citadel-suite.
Unpacking citadel-suite (from .../citadel-suite_7.86-dfsg-1build2_all.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
Setting up wwwconfig-common (0.2.2) ...
Setting up javascript-common (8) ...
Setting up libjs-prototype (1.7.0-2) ...
Setting up libjs-scriptaculous (1.9.0-2) ...
Setting up libsieve2-1 (2.2.6-1.1) ...
Setting up tinymce (3.4.3.2+dfsg0-1) ...
Setting up libcitadel2 (7.86-1) ...
Setting up citadel-client (7.86-1) ...
Setting up citadel-server (7.86-1) ...
applying your settings.
Setup is finished, but the Citadel server failed to start.
Go back and check your configuration.
 
no /etc/aliases found.
Setting up citadel-dbg (7.86-1) ...
Setting up citadel-doc (7.86-1) ...
Setting up citadel-mta (7.86-1) ...
Setting up citadel-webcit (7.86-dfsg-1build2) ...
Setting up citadel-suite (7.86-dfsg-1build2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
W: Waited for dpkg --assert-multi-arch but it wasn't there - dpkgGo (10: No child processes)
 
-----------------------------------------------------
Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328804Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:11:54 +05003328804@Uncensored

I have so far installed libgtk2-perl and executed the following commands:
apt-get update
apt-get install build-essential curl g++ gettext shared-mime-info libssl-dev
I tried the easy install script but it aborted after a while. I have since reinstalled Lubuntu.
This is a fresh install of Lubuntu 12.04 is there anything else i need to do for a succesful install? 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328646Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:04:45 +05003328646@Uncensored

please upgrade to the latest stable if not.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328560Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:57:21 +05003328560@Uncensored

I have had Citadel just stop working a few times now. There is no information in the logs, it just stops working and stops writing logs until I restart it. It seems to happen randomly. I have Citadel running in Centos 6.2 on a KVM virtual machine with 512 MB of RAM on an Intel core i5 with 2 cores assigned to Citadel. There are about 25 people who are using it for email right now. Chat is not being used, but webcit is being run on the same VM.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328324Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:14:12 +05003328324@Uncensored

 

Mon Aug 13 2012 09:53:25 EDT from yajo @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Bugzilla or something like that


on Aug 13 2012 12:29:19 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Bugzilla or something like that

If you have an issue please describe it here as best as you can, and if we can reproduce your issue we will add it to our internal to-do list.


OK.

Log into Webcit.
Go to Advanced > Manage your OpenIDs.
Insert your wordpress blog url and press attach.

Now nothing happens, but it should happen what says here.

Log off.
Try to log in with that same OpenID.

I get this error: There is no OpenID identity provider at this location.
This was happening in my host, but I tested in Uncensored and also fails.
BTW, I used that OpenID in other sites without problems.


Was this bug finally reproduced and added to that to-do list?
Thanks.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328211Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:40:29 +05003328211@Uncensored

from the vast amount of information you provide I can only tell, you're doing something wrong.
</fortuneteller>

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328119Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:25:33 +05003328119@Uncensored

I'm reinstalling linux AGAIN to start fresh AGAIN. This citadel install is really getting to me.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3328014Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:45:09 +05003328014@Uncensored

The easy install has failed again. What is wrong ?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3327928Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:17:36 +05003327928@Uncensored

No it does'nt start with that command either. I tried installing from the easy install script and it aborts. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I'm running the easy install scrip right now (after a complete reinstall of ubuntu).

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3327833Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:34:54 +05003327833@Uncensored

No it does'nt start with that command either. I tried installing from the easy install script and it aborts. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I'm running the easy install scrip right now (after a complete reinstall of ubuntu).

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3327737Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:07:44 +05003327737@Uncensored

does it start with
/etc/init.d/citadel start
?
if yes, the message is wrong.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3327626Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:27:41 +05003327626@Uncensored

I keep getting errors on the citadel install. Now it says install finished but citadel server failed to start. Is there something i'm doing wrong? I've been trying to have this installed for 3 days now.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3327158Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:13:57 +05003327158@Uncensored

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 16:13:21 EDT from jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 16:00:35 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 14:44:00 CEST from jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 05:44:33 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

your iphone browser doesn't speak javascript?

  

I have Javascript switched on for tha Safari browser but for some reason nothing happens when I press login on either this server or my home server.  It works fine from a PC.


This should be fixed in git master and maybe I also fixed it in the stable branch. It has to do with the placement of the login div/modal. Browsers on proper desktops seem to be more forgiving than mobile variants. The same happens in opera mobile and afaik on android phones too.    Should be fixed in the next release.
Fixes for mobile useage are going to trickle down into the stable releases while I find solutions for the layout_rework branch. But this is pre-alpha stuff.




Thanks for the reply and the update,
Jodel




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3327157Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:13:21 +05003327157@Uncensored

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 16:00:35 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 14:44:00 CEST from jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 05:44:33 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

your iphone browser doesn't speak javascript?

  

I have Javascript switched on for tha Safari browser but for some reason nothing happens when I press login on either this server or my home server.  It works fine from a PC.


This should be fixed in git master and maybe I also fixed it in the stable branch. It has to do with the placement of the login div/modal. Browsers on proper desktops seem to be more forgiving than mobile variants. The same happens in opera mobile and afaik on android phones too.    Should be fixed in the next release.
Fixes for mobile useage are going to trickle down into the stable releases while I find solutions for the layout_rework branch. But this is pre-alpha stuff.




Tanks for the reply and the update,
Jodel

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3327069Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:11:21 +05003327069@Uncensored

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 13:07:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel Raspberry Pi


Next problem is phone sync.  Any news as to when Z-push will be 
included in Citadel? 

Never. :) 

Due to licensing issues it will always be maintained as a separate project. 

However if you're merely interested in a progress report, the current development snapshot includes plain text email, and support for contacts (address book). 
It has very rudimentary support for a read-only calendar in a single time zone. 

It looks promising though. We'll have more done soon. 


Thanks for the update.  The ability to have a direct  sync of Calendar and Contacts between Citadel and Android or Iphone would be fantastic.
Jodel

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326981Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:00:35 +05003326981@Uncensored


	 

	

		Mon Sep 17 2012 14:44:00 CEST from jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In
	

		

			 
		

			

				Mon Sep 17 2012 05:44:33 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In
			

				

					your iphone browser doesn't speak javascript?
				

				 
		
		

			I have Javascript switched on for tha Safari browser but for some reason nothing happens when I press login on either this server or my home server.  It works fine from a PC.
	


	This should be fixed in git master and maybe I also fixed it in the stable branch. It has to do with the placement of the login div/modal. Browsers on proper desktops seem to be more forgiving than mobile variants. The same happens in opera mobile and afaik on android phones too.    Should be fixed in the next release.

	Fixes for mobile useage are going to trickle down into the stable releases while I find solutions for the layout_rework branch. But this is pre-alpha stuff.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326874Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:23:53 +05003326874@Uncensored

Different users are requiring different expiry times on various of their rooms. As an Aide level user I can do this, but Citadel doesn't seem to let any user set their expire times unless they are Aide as well.
The only way I can think to do this is temporarily grant Aide level to the user, log in as them and set their requested expiry time, then drop their level back to the default: "Preferred User" on my system.
Is there an easier/more correct way to do this?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326779Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:07:53 +05003326779@UncensoredNext problem is phone sync.  Any news as to when Z-push will be  
 >included in Citadel?   
  
 Never.  :) 
  
 Due to licensing issues it will always be maintained as a separate project.

  
 However if you're merely interested in a progress report, the current development
snapshot includes plain text email, and support for contacts (address book).
 It has very rudimentary support for a read-only calendar in a single time
zone. 
  
 It looks promising though.  We'll have more done soon. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326620Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:44:00 +05003326620@Uncensored

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 05:44:33 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Log In

your iphone browser doesn't speak javascript?




I have Javascript switched on for tha Safari browser but for some reason nothing happens when I press login on either this server or my home server.  It works fine from a PC.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326512Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:44:33 +05003326512@Uncensored

your iphone browser doesn't speak javascript?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326403Mon, 17 Sep 2012 03:54:28 +05003326403@Uncensored

 

Sun Sep 16 2012 21:18:24 EDT from jame @ Rocasa LLC  Subject: Re: Log In


Sun Sep 16 2012 04:42:43 PM EDT from jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Log In

The log in to a Citadel server seem to need Java.


Isn't that Javascript?  Not Java?
 
Jame
 




I am sure you are correct.  Does that bring me closer to the solution?  :)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326305Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:56:43 +05003326305@Uncensored

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 02:48:41 AM EDT from Jian @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Trying to migrate installation..

 

Mon Sep 17 2012 01:48:44 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Trying to migrate installation..

you mustn't downgrade berkeley db versions, and you mustn't change cpu architecture.
else you need to use the migration tool: http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=news:roadmap.for.citadel.7.60




 
What is the path to the migration tool? I'm at work at the moment, so I can't find this out right now, and there's no mention of the path in the doku article.
On the topic of the migration tool, is it like the migration tool used to migrate an Easy Install installation to a repository installation, where you have to run it from the destination machine? Or can it handle migrating from one repository installation to another? For example, the current installation machine i have that runs Citadel, I want to wipe and reinstall the OS, but I want to bring Citadel with me. How would I do that? Migrate the DB to another machine temporarily then migrate from that machine back?




EDIT: Oh, wait I think I found it under the Admin Manual
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:system_administration_manual&s[]=migrate
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3326215Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:52:38 +05003326215@Uncensored

 

Mon Aug 20 2012 10:11:50 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: CitaDel---Mobile-APP for ANDROiD/iPAD..


maildroid works nicely with citadel: 

For simple IMAP email, you can't do much better than K-9 Mail. It gets the job done, reliably, every time. I even use it with those pesky Exchange servers even when ActiveSync is available. 


Second that. I use K-9 as well. Simple, clean, and works perfectly. I tie it in with Locale and the K-9 plugin to give me different poll rates depending on where and when I am (5 minutes at home, 10 minutes at work, 30 minutes other times, and never when I'm sleeping)
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Mon Sep 17 2012 01:48:44 AM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Trying to migrate installation..

you mustn't downgrade berkeley db versions, and you mustn't change cpu architecture.
else you need to use the migration tool: http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=news:roadmap.for.citadel.7.60




 
What is the path to the migration tool? I'm at work at the moment, so I can't find this out right now, and there's no mention of the path in the doku article.
On the topic of the migration tool, is it like the migration tool used to migrate an Easy Install installation to a repository installation, where you have to run it from the destination machine? Or can it handle migrating from one repository installation to another? For example, the current installation machine i have that runs Citadel, I want to wipe and reinstall the OS, but I want to bring Citadel with me. How would I do that? Migrate the DB to another machine temporarily then migrate from that machine back?
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Sat Sep 15 2012 15:05:53 EDT from ebay @ Uncensored  Subject: Incoming e-mails to inbox

For me it works not land the incoming e-mails in the inbox. They always land in Aide!
Bei mir klappt es nicht das eingehende E-Mails im Posteingang landen. Sie landen immer in Aide!


there are some defaults in the mail.aliases file which point into the aide room.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3325948Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:48:44 +05003325948@Uncensored

you mustn't downgrade berkeley db versions, and you mustn't change cpu architecture.
else you need to use the migration tool: http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=news:roadmap.for.citadel.7.60

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3325846Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:18:24 +05003325846@Uncensored


Sun Sep 16 2012 04:42:43 PM EDT from   jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Log In

The log in to a Citadel server seem to need Java.


Isn't that Javascript?  Not Java?
 
Jame
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3325739Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:42:43 +05003325739@Uncensored

Hi,
The log in to a Citadel server seem to need Java.  
Any way to log in from an Iphone as Safari does not have Java?
Jodel

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3325649Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:09:28 +05003325649@Uncensored

Hi,
I'm trying to migrate my Citadel DB to another machine with a fresh installation of Lubuntu (my current machine runs Zorin 5 -- both are Ubuntu variants so there shouldn't be an issue)
On the new installation, I setup everything, add the users, install Citadel and copy across the /var/lib/citadel and /var/spool/citadel directories, kill any Citadel processes and I get this when I startup Citserver manually (I'm doing this in a Virtual Machine to test it out first)

root@VirtualBox:/var/lib/citadel/data# sudo citserver
2012/09/16 17:08:42.992794 
2012/09/16 17:08:42.995262 
2012/09/16 17:08:42.995410 *** Citadel server engine v7.86 (build 964ee25a7f22cc7b6cc75b921815cea42e5ae7f3) ***
2012/09/16 17:08:42.995611 Copyright (C) 1987-2010 by the Citadel development team.
2012/09/16 17:08:42.995745 This program is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
2012/09/16 17:08:42.995870 
2012/09/16 17:08:42.995986 Called as: citserver
2012/09/16 17:08:42.996105 $Id$
2012/09/16 17:08:42.996247 Loading citadel.config
2012/09/16 17:08:42.996587 Acquiring control record
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048375 Registered server command STLS (Start SSL/TLS session)
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048545 Registered server command GTLS (Get SSL/TLS session status)
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048563 Registered a new session function (type 0)
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048645 master_startup() started
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048704 Opening databases
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048742 bdb(): open_databases() starting
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048757 Compiled db: Berkeley DB 5.1.19: (August 27, 2010)
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048833   Linked db: Berkeley DB 5.1.25: (January 28, 2011)
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048939 Calculated dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/16 17:08:43.048952   Previous dbversion: 5001025
2012/09/16 17:08:43.049129 Linked zlib: 1.2.3.4
2012/09/16 17:08:43.049171 bdb(): Setting up DB environment
2012/09/16 17:08:43.050321 dbenv->open(dbenv, /var/lib/citadel/data/, 19091, 0)
Finding last valid log LSN: file: 1 offset 112998
Recovery starting from [1][28]
Recovery complete at Sun Sep 16 17:08:43 2012
Maximum transaction ID 8000001a Recovery checkpoint [1][114077]
2012/09/16 17:08:43.120610 Starting up DB
2012/09/16 17:08:43.122066 Checking floor reference counts
2012/09/16 17:08:43.128097 DB: not a restored transaction
2012/09/16 17:08:43.128825 DB: PANIC: Invalid argument
2012/09/16 17:08:43.129150 bdb(): PANIC: Invalid argument
2012/09/16 17:08:43.129304 bdb(): txn_commit: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery

You can see at the end it suggests running database recovery. So I did:

root@VirtualBox:/var/lib/citadel/data# cd /var/lib/citadel/data; /usr/bin/db4.8_recover -c
db4.8_recover: Unacceptable log file log.0000000001: unsupported log version 17
db4.8_recover: Invalid log file: log.0000000001: Invalid argument
db4.8_recover: PANIC: Invalid argument
db4.8_recover: process-private: unable to find environment
db4.8_recover: DB_ENV->open: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery

And running the dump and load gave me much the same thing
How can I fix this? I think my Citadel install didn't update and I'm running a DB layout which is not support in the current version, in which case, how can I "update" my DB?
 
Thanks for any help
 
Jian
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Thu Sep 13 2012 14:53:35 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: 'duplicate session' errors ?

 

Thu Sep 13 2012 11:43:07 EDT from jame @ Uncensored  Subject: 'duplicate session' errors ?

 
    I'm seeing the following error message in my log:  Duplicate session for network node
    What can cause that? And how are the sessions tracked?  (I.e., if there are files rather than some data structure in Citadel, where are they kept?)


its inter citadel networking which gives this message.
each node keeps a list of remote nodes its currently talking to.
this message is emitted on inbound connections which are denied due to the above list.
you can totaly avoid it by configuring one node in passive mode by setting the hostname to 0.0.0.0
the other node then will do all the push and pull operations.


If I understood what you meant<g> then I currently testing that out on the system where the issue is coming up  (32 bit Debian squeeze, running v8.14).
 
 
Jame
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3325361Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:05:53 +05003325361@Uncensored

For me it works not land the incoming e-mails in the inbox. They always land in Aide!
 
Bei mir klappt es nicht das eingehende E-Mails im Posteingang landen. Sie landen immer in Aide!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3325253Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:13:03 +05003325253@Uncensored

Hi,
I've just installed Citadel with Easy Install on an Ubuntu Server 12.04  to learn it and see if it could be a good solution for my work.
I'm able to access the web interface on the localhost itself but I'm not able to do it on a remote computer on the same network.
I don't know what to look for to correct that.
 
I hope someone can help me.
 
Thank
 
Sebastien

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3325071Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:52:42 +05003325071@Uncensored

 

Wed Sep 12 2012 06:29:02 PM EDT from jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Citadel Raspberry Pi

Hi,
Also tried to install Citadel using apt-get install.  The Raspberian repositorys do not seem to have libcitadel3 and so the server or webcit will not install.
My source is      http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi


I wonder the same thing as RoboTamer but also went ahead and checked at the main Rasberian site [1], which does appear to have the libcitadel3 package available[2].
 
Jame
[1] http://www.raspbian.org
[2] http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/libc/libcitadel/
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324751Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:53:35 +05003324751@Uncensored

 

Thu Sep 13 2012 11:43:07 EDT from jame @ Uncensored  Subject: 'duplicate session' errors ?

All,
    I'm seeing the following error message in my log:  Duplicate session for network node
    What can cause that? And how are the sessions tracked?  (I.e., if there are files rather than some data structure in Citadel, where are they kept?)
Jame


its inter citadel networking which gives this message.
each node keeps a list of remote nodes its currently talking to.
this message is emitted on inbound connections which are denied due to the above list.
you can totaly avoid it by configuring one node in passive mode by setting the hostname to 0.0.0.0
the other node then will do all the push and pull operations.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324615Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:43:07 +05003324615@Uncensored

All,
    I'm seeing the following error message in my log:  Duplicate session for network node
    What can cause that? And how are the sessions tracked?  (I.e., if there are files rather than some data structure in Citadel, where are they kept?)
 
 
Jame
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324540Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:48:47 +05003324540@Uncensored

Raspbian repo is now fixed.  Citadel now instals on to the Pi with apt-get.  The set up has to be run twice to fix a problem re ip6
Jodel

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324451Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:44:52 +05003324451@Uncensored

Why Citadel on a PI?  Because I would like to keep my contacts and calendar on a home server in case I lose my phone.  I am not as interested in the mail part.  In any event, it is now up and running and the performance with a few users is excellent.
Next problem is phone sync.  Any news as to when Z-push will be included in Citadel?
Regards, Jodel
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324352Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:50:33 +05003324352@Uncensored

 

Tue Sep 11 2012 03:41:34 EDT from Mario Giammarco @ Uncensored  Subject: Import contacts from csv/xls

Hello,
I need to create a mailing lists with many contacts. I have them on xls/csv. How can I import them in citadel?
 
Thanks,
Mario




 
The contacts are saved in a regular mail folder as vcard.
What I did was, I imported all my contacts in to Horde, and then exported them as vcard.
I suppose you could do the with gmail or yahoo too.
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324263Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:32:58 +05003324263@Uncensored

 

Sat Sep 17 2011 20:20:50 EDT from "nkoehring" <me@nkoehring.de>  Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Inbound Wildcard
Is something already happen in this case?
 
 IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@...> writes:
 
 


I suggest adding regex support for the aliases file. 
 
Now *that* is a possible compromise. Let me think about that! 



Voting up on regex


]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324174Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:16:05 +05003324174@Uncensored

 

Thu Sep 13 2012 03:03:02 EDT from jodel @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel Raspberry Pi

Thanks for the suggestion.  The Raspbian site generally recommends not using other repositorys due to the specific hardware on the Raspberry Pi.  Maybe I should see if they can get the package added to their repository?
Jodel




May I ask what ou want with a full blown mail server on a little Raspberry?
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3324084Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:36:30 +05003324084@Uncensored

If you have enough disk (or whatever storage you're using) you might also consider getting enough of a build environment together so that Easy Install works.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323961Thu, 13 Sep 2012 04:23:47 +05003323961@Uncensored

from what i've heard they now sugest upstream debian?
I guess its rather a question of time; but you might ask them.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323871Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:03:02 +05003323871@Uncensored

Thanks for the suggestion.  The Raspbian site generally recommends not using other repositorys due to the specific hardware on the Raspberry Pi.  Maybe I should see if they can get the package added to their repository?
Jodel

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323783Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:04:28 +05003323783@Uncensored

libcitadel3 made it into upstream recently; maybe you need to choose another mirror (or direct debian mirror)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323662Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:29:02 +05003323662@Uncensored

Hi,
Also tried to install Citadel using apt-get install.  The Raspberian repositorys do not seem to have libcitadel3 and so the server or webcit will not install.
My source is      http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
 
I have tried both Easy install ( see previous message) and apt-get and I can get neither to work.
Any ideas as to what next I can try?
Regards,
Jodel
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323573Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:06:12 +05003323573@Uncensored

Hi,
I am trying an easy install on my Raspberry Pi running Rasbian wheezy.  The install failed at the install Citadel part.  Last 4 lines in the log file are
 
make[1] msgfmt: Command not found
Make[1] *** [../../locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES/citadel-setup.mo] Error127
Make: *** [install-locale] Error 2
Operating System Linux Debian wheezy/sid (3.1.9+ armv61)
 
Any ideas how to fix?
Regards
Jodel

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323457Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:26:57 +05003323457@Uncensored

Thanks a lot that worked and I now have the software installed. I have run into another issue at the end of the install though... I'm getting the following message:
 
citserver[2036]: Failed to adjust ownership of: /etc/citadel/netconfigs/7 [No such file or directory]

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323347Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:45:39 +05003323347@Uncensored

 

Wed Sep 12 2012 09:39:57 EDT from mike5499 @ Uncensored  Subject: installing on raspberry pi unmet dependencies

I'm running Raspbian "Wheezy" and running into some problems while trying to install Citadel.
 
When I run the following command:
sudo apt-get install citadel-suite
 
I get this message:
 
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  citadel-suite : Dependens: citadel-server but it is not going to be installed
                        Dependens: citadel-mta but it is not going to be installed
                        Dependens: citadel-webcit but it is not going to be installed
                        Dependens: citadel-client but it is not going to be installed
 
Then I tried this:
sudo apt-get install citadel-server
  citadel-server : Depends: libcitadel3 (>= 8.14) but it is  not installable
                          Recommends: db4.6-util but it is not installable.
 
I am very new to linux, so any help would be appreciated.




since the pi is ARM, and we just have i386 and AMD64 packages you have to install the debian.org ones.
so, remove all which is citadel on your system (get with dpkg --list |grep citadel)  using dpkg -r <packagename>
remove debian.citadel.org from your /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get upgrade
then run
apt-get install citadel-server citadel-webcit libcitadel3
 
which should give you these .debs.
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323258Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:41:27 +05003323258@Uncensored

 

Wed Sep 12 2012 09:41:23 EDT from Mario Giammarco @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Move existing citadel to ldap

 

Tue Sep 11 2012 08:21:06 EDT from dothebart  Subject: Re: Move existing citadel to ldap

 

Tue Sep 11 2012 06:50:05 EDT from Mario Giammarco @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Move existing citadel to ldap

I need to switch only one time and to preserve the list of addresses of a mailing list destination. Can I do it with imap?


 stored on a per room basis.
What is stored on per user basis isn't going to be accessible if you switch to ldap,


Per room o per user? Sorry I do not understand.
The contacts in the mailing list are not citadel users.




each mailinglist is a room.
you can store per room mailinglist recipients.
this is done in the netconfigs/ dir files with the ID of the room.
these files aren't in conjunction with ldap anyhow.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323164Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:59:14 +05003323164@Uncensored


Wed Sep 12 2012 10:22:10 EDT from Mario Giammarco @ Uncensored  Subject: Immediate auto subscribe

Hello,
can I auto subscribe to a mailing list without confirmation email?
I have a private citadel not yet reachable from outside.


you can add users via the webcit interface when logged in; edit the room properties.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3323069Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:22:10 +05003323069@Uncensored

Hello,
can I auto subscribe to a mailing list without confirmation email?
I have a private citadel not yet reachable from outside.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322969Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:41:23 +05003322969@Uncensored

 

Tue Sep 11 2012 08:21:06 EDT from dothebart  Subject: Re: Move existing citadel to ldap

 

Tue Sep 11 2012 06:50:05 EDT from Mario Giammarco @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Move existing citadel to ldap

I need to switch only one time and to preserve the list of addresses of a mailing list destination. Can I do it with imap?


 stored on a per room basis.
What is stored on per user basis isn't going to be accessible if you switch to ldap,


Per room o per user? Sorry I do not understand.
The contacts in the mailing list are not citadel users.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322880Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:39:57 +05003322880@Uncensored

I'm running Raspbian "Wheezy" and running into some problems while trying to install Citadel.
 
When I run the following command:
sudo apt-get install citadel-suite
 
I get this message:
 
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  citadel-suite : Dependens: citadel-server but it is not going to be installed
                        Dependens: citadel-mta but it is not going to be installed
                        Dependens: citadel-webcit but it is not going to be installed
                        Dependens: citadel-client but it is not going to be installed
 
Then I tried this:
sudo apt-get install citadel-server
  citadel-server : Depends: libcitadel3 (>= 8.14) but it is  not installable
                          Recommends: db4.6-util but it is not installable.
 
I am very new to linux, so any help would be appreciated.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322574Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:21:06 +05003322574@Uncensored

 

Tue Sep 11 2012 06:50:05 EDT from Mario Giammarco @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Move existing citadel to ldap

I need to switch only one time and to preserve the list of addresses of a mailing list destination. Can I do it with imap?


as mentioned above, mailinglist subscribers are stored on a per room basis.
What is stored on per user basis isn't going to be accessible if you switch to ldap, since you're not going to be able to log into old accounts anymore, and the new ones, the ldap ones are other (new) accounts.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322548Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:50:05 +05003322548@Uncensored

I need to switch only one time and to preserve the list of addresses of a mailing list destination. Can I do it with imap?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322444Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:23:45 +05003322444@Uncensored

 

Tue Sep 11 2012 03:41:34 EDT from Mario Giammarco @ Uncensored  Subject: Import contacts from csv/xls

Hello,
I need to create a mailing lists with many contacts. I have them on xls/csv. How can I import them in citadel?
 
Thanks,
Mario




these configs are in plaintext files in the netconfigs directory.
add an entry which you can grep for, choose the file and add your entries.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322355Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:20:10 +05003322355@Uncensored

citadel won't run in windows.
If you want more apliances, feel free to contribute.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322268Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:56:45 +05003322268@Uncensored

Is there a virtualbox appliance for citadel? There are only KVM and VMWare appliances on the site. Also is there a Windows version of the application?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322170Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:58:08 +05003322170@Uncensored

well, regularily switching authentication scheme isn't supported.
the best way to go probably is to run two citadels in paralell and use i.e. imap to copy the data over.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3322080Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:41:34 +05003322080@Uncensored

Hello,
I need to create a mailing lists with many contacts. I have them on xls/csv. How can I import them in citadel?
 
Thanks,
Mario

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321995Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:31:29 +05003321995@Uncensored

Hello,
I have an installation of citadel with data. I need to use ldap now but I do not want to lose my data, expecially rooms with their contents.
Is it possible?
 
Thanks,
Mario

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321735Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:41:30 +05003321735@Uncensored

 

Wed Aug 29 2012 09:19:42 EDT from renzocaso @ Uncensored  Subject: my emails don't load on the inbox room

Hello  
please someone can help me
was working fine but when I transfer all my 700 emails from my old email provider to my inbox room , now is stuck on "Loading messages from server please wait" I left that for more than 1 hours an nothing
 
thank you





 Had the same problem. Overlooked, that my browser did not accept Javascript. After enabling it worked fine.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321480Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:13:36 +05003321480@Uncensored


Worked like a charm:
username%40att.net:password@smtp.att.yahoo.com
awesome! Thanks

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321391Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:03:05 +05003321391@Uncensored


More progress - I have managed to receive email into Citadel - cannot send out because of "Smart Host" authentication.
Trying to figure out where to add a username and password for the Citadel "Smart Hosts" - tried user:password@smtp.att.yahoo.com but the problem is my username is actually xxxxx@att.net
hmmm..
Once I've got that down, then I move on to the fun of getting a Windows 7 / Outlook 2000 client to connect and transfer goodies.
ih

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321284Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:10:04 +05003321284@Uncensored

you need to url-escape the @ in the user name like that: %40

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321194Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:33:47 +05003321194@Uncensored


More progress - I have managed to receive email into Citadel - cannot send out because of "Smart Host" authentication.
Trying to figure out where to add a username and password for the Citadel "Smart Hosts" - tried user:password@smtp.att.yahoo.com but the problem is my username is actually xxxxx@att.net
hmmm..
Once I've got that down, then I move on to the fun of getting a Windows 7 / Outlook 2000 client to connect and transfer goodies.
ih

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321107Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:30:06 +05003321107@Uncensored


Update - I got the Telnet to work (as soon as I finished typing my begging letter).
It was the firewall - I wasnt disabling it well enough :)
Should I re-enable it with a pinhole just for email? the only option seems to be "SMTP for Postfix" on the "Allowed Services" page.
Thanks again.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3321024Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:24:15 +05003321024@Uncensored


I am a total newbie to Linux (and obviously Citadel), but have a lot of pc/server experience.
I loaded an old IBM ThinkPad with SUSE 12.1 and installed Citadel - I was thinking I was doing really well!
Currently running MS Exchange to manage an email domain - but want to check out Linux (and Citadel seemed to be a good email host).
Citadel looks good from the browser (Webcit) - and I can telnet to port 25 from a "Teminal" session on the local PC.
Tried to join the SUSE to a windows domain, but unsure of success - I can see a Server 2008 folder though if I enter creds.
Tryng to Telnet from another PC on the network gets no response (I can telnet to the Exchange server still so I know telnet is cool).
Static IP on the SUSE config - I can ping both ways to and from the SUSE (IBM).
Checked the log in var/log/firewall - no clues there. Log level was set to log everything.
Tried to disable the SUSE Firewall, but still no telnet.
Looking for some (very basic) guidance - it took me 15 minutes to figure out where the firewall log lived - and I deleted it now and can't seem to get a new one started....
Thanks!

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320807Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:37:48 +05003320807@Uncensored

Do you have a winmail.dat as an attachment?
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320725Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:36:28 +05003320725@Uncensored

For reference, to resolve this error message the problem resided in there not being a suhosin.so that was referenced in /etc/php5/conf.d/suhosin.ini
From my understanding, any .ini file in the conf.d directory gets executed when php5 is started.
I simply edited the very first entry and commented it out w/ a semi-colon before it
; configuration for php suhosin module
;extension=suhosin.so

 
Thank again for the support. THis was the error.

Fri Aug 17 2012 05:08:29 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Incoming mail being sent back 550 to sender

 

Thu
In the AIDE INBOX the followin is repeated
------ MESSAGE IN AIDE BOX, REPEATED THOUSANDS OF TIMES -------------------
#] Thu Aug 16 2012 4:39:01 am CDT CDT from "Cron Daemon" <root@mail> to root
Subject: Cron <root@mail> [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -ignore_readdir_race -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir fuser -s {} 2>/dev/null \; -delete
[Reply] [ReplyQuoted] [Move] [Delete]  [Headers] [Print]

PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20100525/suhosin.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20100525/suhosin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 
I ran a FIND | grep suhosin.so  from / and it came back with nothing. However, even when incoming email was working, this was still in the AIDE inbox. I have a 130 pages of it.
 
ANY IDEA?
 
 




this is probably a mail cron/logrotate sends you when restarting apache.
you should get a similar message when issuing
/etc/init.d/apache2 stop
/etc/init.d/apache2 start
most probably in /etc/php/*/php.ini you have a configuration loading the hardening plugin suhosin ( http://www.hardened-php.net/suhosin/ )




 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320629Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:51:21 +05003320629@Uncensored

Hi,
 
I have the server up and running and can send attachments between users on the server, but any external pop account setup in the Remote Retrieval option doesn't download attachments....
ie I am connecting to pop.asia.secureserver.net to download mail for each user... get the text in the message but not docx files etc
Hope someone can help.
Thanks
 
Turbond

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320522Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:04:32 +05003320522@Uncensored

Citadel isn't written in PHP.  It looks like you have mail to "root" being delivered to your Aide room, which is fine, but you need to look outside of Citadel for the source of the message.  One of your cron jobs is generating that message.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320378Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:33:21 +05003320378@Uncensored

I do apologize, I looked but I will look again.  If I missed it this is my error and I am sorry for missing it.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320286Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:23:30 +05003320286@Uncensored

 

Thu Sep 06 2012 14:03:01 EDT from Carbon14LLC @ Uncensored  Subject: AIDE php ERROR MESSAGE

This error has been happening for a long time as well.  I have 1000's of messages in my AIDE box all saying this same message
Does anyone have any input on where to start RE: the following the message?
Thank you,
Scott @ Carbon14

 
Subject: Cron <root@mail> [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -ignore_readdir_race -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir fuser -s {} 2>/dev/null \; -delete
EMAIL MESSAGE BELOW
PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20100525/suhosin.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20100525/suhosin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0





afair I already replied to your message. please read back for my last answer, I won't repeat myself.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320186Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:03:01 +05003320186@Uncensored

This error has been happening for a long time as well.  I have 1000's of messages in my AIDE box all saying this same message
Does anyone have any input on where to start RE: the following the message?
Thank you,
Scott @ Carbon14

 
Subject: Cron <root@mail> [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -ignore_readdir_race -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir fuser -s {} 2>/dev/null \; -delete
EMAIL MESSAGE BELOW
PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20100525/suhosin.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20100525/suhosin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0


]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3320098Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:00:44 +05003320098@Uncensored

Still trying to get diagnose and repair why the sent items (which are being sent through citadel-server) are not populating in the Sent Items or SENT folders per user.
Citadel 8.11 with WebCit 8.11, server build 8.11

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319991Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:09:16 +05003319991@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319818Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:15:08 +05003319818@Uncensored

 

Wed Sep 05 2012 18:36:56 EDT from Jason Lexer @ Uncensored  Subject: Citadel for a large user base

I'm looking for a webmail solution that will be given away for free for our 10,000+ members.  Are there any known issues for a large rollout?



as long as your server is powerfull enough, this should work. A 64 bit machine with lots of memory and a quick disk should be chosen.



Also, would the mail server support a cloud-based storage provider (e.g. Amazon S3, Rackspace, Azure) for the mailbox store?  Or since the mailbox store is actually within the Berkley DB, must this storage be local?


the storage has to be on a mounted filesystem on the machine running citserver.
The ones you mention above provide you with virtual machines, which tend to have poor i/o performance. You also should know that networkfilesystems even introduce more i/o penalties to your system.
Also vm's seem to have problems about system calls being more expensive; and since citadels domain is about... tada... IO reading stuff here, writing it there that negatively impacts performance as well.
I guess since the problem domain is similar for other webmail solutions, you're going to end up with similar hardware requirements with other solutions too.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319697Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:36:56 +05003319697@Uncensored

I'm looking for a webmail solution that will be given away for free for our 10,000+ members.  Are there any known issues for a large rollout?  Also, would the mail server support a cloud-based storage provider (e.g. Amazon S3, Rackspace, Azure) for the mailbox store?  Or since the mailbox store is actually within the Berkley DB, must this storage be local?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319342Tue, 04 Sep 2012 12:55:55 +05003319342@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319201Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:07:34 +05003319201@Uncensored hello,
>
> is citadel capable of running its own ldap server?
>
> as per documentation, it can authenticate to an existing ldap, but how about
> creating its own ldap database?
>
> Thanks!
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319199Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:59:35 +05003319199@Uncensored


	No, it does not act as an LDAP server on its own and won't be.

	I am using a Samba4 instance to authenticate against (using the windows ADS mode in citadel), you could also have a look at the various things Redhat based distros have to offer, for example the 389 Directory Server http://port389.org/ or that whole suite which they offer.

	Also distros like ClearOS have easy to set up LDAP auth methods.

	You could also pay for a resource hogging MS variant....

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319086Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:44:42 +05003319086@Uncensored

hello,
 
is citadel capable of running its own ldap server?
 
as per documentation, it can authenticate to an existing ldap, but how about creating its own ldap database?
 
Thanks!
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3319079Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:36:06 +05003319079@Uncensored

hello,
is citadel capable of running its own ldap server?
as per documentation, it can authenticate to an existing ldap, but how about creating its own ldap database?
Thanks!
 
 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3318774Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:57:05 +05003318774@Uncensored

 

Sun Sep 02 2012 12:39:19 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x


Sun Sep 02 2012 11:24:53 EDT from Nurb432 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x

I have tried current citadel on current Freebsd ( within a bare jail ) using easyinstall and have run into road blocks.  After installing gmake, curl and perl as dependencies the following modules seem to install ok: libical, libsieve, Berkeley DB, expat, libev, c-ares.
It then fails on libcurl with "libtool: link: require no space between `-L' and `/usr/local/lib'". Once i figure out where this is and how to restart without downloading again, and thus blowing my changes away, im going to try editing the respective make file and remove the space.


the generally preferred way would be to create a port; like theres a portage for gentoo or rpms for suse/fedora/...
can you post a diff of your easy install script?




Once i get it working, i sure will. 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3318658Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:39:19 +05003318658@Uncensored


Sun Sep 02 2012 11:24:53 EDT from Nurb432 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x

I have tried current citadel on current Freebsd ( within a bare jail ) using easyinstall and have run into road blocks.  After installing gmake, curl and perl as dependencies the following modules seem to install ok: libical, libsieve, Berkeley DB, expat, libev, c-ares.
It then fails on libcurl with "libtool: link: require no space between `-L' and `/usr/local/lib'". Once i figure out where this is and how to restart without downloading again, and thus blowing my changes away, im going to try editing the respective make file and remove the space. 


the generally preferred way would be to create a port; like theres a portage for gentoo or rpms for suse/fedora/...
can you post a diff of your easy install script?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3318570Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:36:48 +05003318570@Uncensored

 

Sun Sep 02 2012 11:24:53 EDT from Nurb432 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x

 For us, running in a jail is far preferable to either another piece of hardware to be installed at each site ( $ ) or a virtual machine running linux ( more overhead and more support headaches )


theres linux-vserver or virtuozzo to do this on linux meanwhile ;-)

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3318481Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:50:44 +05003318481@UncensoredIf I send a mail message when I go back through the rooms I get a message
saying "5 new of 6 messages." in mail.  If I select " >n" it goes   
  
 This might just be a data model gap between the text client (which only wants
to deal with a contiguous block of zero or more "old" messages followed by
a contiguous block of zero or more "new" messages) and the other clients (which
can mark any message in any location as old or new). 
  
 When you switch from one to the other on the same account, sometimes it has
to guess what you wanted. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3318389Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:24:53 +05003318389@Uncensored

 

Fri Aug 31 2012 03:52:02 EDT from horschd @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x

 
I got a running citadel 7.87 on current OpenBSD. But newer versions (8 and higher) fail due to problems with the Berkeley DB and some library incompatibilities. There are much better chances to get a working Citadel version on FreeBSD (I tested Citadel 8.05 on FBSD 8.3). I think citadel on *BSD would be a very nice (fast and very low hardware requirements) option, so we should keep the code working at least for FreeBSD. I will try more recent citadel version on FreeBSD soon and report my experience and test results (due to very limited time I can only do this with time lag).
Best regards
Horschde




I have tried current citadel on current Freebsd ( within a bare jail ) using easyinstall and have run into road blocks.  After installing gmake, curl and perl as dependencies the following modules seem to install ok: libical, libsieve, Berkeley DB, expat, libev, c-ares.
It then fails on libcurl with "libtool: link: require no space between `-L' and `/usr/local/lib'". Once i figure out where this is and how to restart without downloading again, and thus blowing my changes away, im going to try editing the respective make file and remove the space.
For us, running in a jail is far preferable to either another piece of hardware to be installed at each site ( $ ) or a virtual machine running linux ( more overhead and more support headaches )


 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3318281Sun, 02 Sep 2012 08:38:52 +05003318281@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3317947Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:40:41 +05003317947@Uncensored

 

Fri Aug 31 2012 10:38:41 EDT from ypl @ Uncensored  Subject: attachment extraction

hi there,
i'm looking for the possibility to extract attachments from incoming emails to specific folders; we use certain email-adresses as "upload channels" for a digital asset management system and need all files attached to messages to those addresses to be stored in the file system on receiving.
is this or something like this possible with citadel?
thanks in advance
ypl




you have several ways of doing so
 - convince your inbound channels to not use smtp but upload them via webcit in one of the files rooms
 - write a script using OPNA, READ*n, CLOS to read the files from port 504; continue to RTFM here: http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:applicationprotocol#application.layer.protocol.for.the.citadel.system.introducion ; other people posted sample scripts to do stuff here: http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:favoriteclient:migrating_ldap_into_citadel 
 - write some cookie enabled script using webcits json outputs to retrieve the message list, get a json representation of the message mime structure, and use webcit to download the attachment.
 - start hacking citserver to store attachments into the files section of a room 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3317835Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:38:41 +05003317835@Uncensored

hi there,
i'm looking for the possibility to extract attachments from incoming emails to specific folders; we use certain email-adresses as "upload channels" for a digital asset management system and need all files attached to messages to those addresses to be stored in the file system on receiving.
is this or something like this possible with citadel?
thanks in advance
ypl

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3317704Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:34:42 +05003317704@Uncensored

the currently known issue is troubles with getting the right headers for nameserver related structures; we ended in a dead loop on last try.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3317607Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:52:02 +05003317607@Uncensored

 

Wed Apr 04 2012 05:31:22 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x


Tue Apr 03 2012 18:17:41 EDT from rmb @ Uncensored  Subject: Citadel on OpenBSD 5.x

I hope I post now in the right room (UNIX).
Did somebody got Citadel running on OpenbSD 5.0 or upcomming 5.1?
Maybe somebody created a port or got patches for the Installer.sh? I found some patches for the installe rbut they are from 2010 so I did not yet tested them.
Kind regards,
rmb


currently *bsd is rarely used for running citadels; there is nobody maintaining ports.
We also can't support this because of we don't have test machines and the time to do this.
If you like to take over, test stuff, and work out portability issues and create patches for them, we're happy to add them upstream.
else please refrain from using bsd as host for citadel.




I got a running citadel 7.87 on current OpenBSD. But newer versions (8 and higher) fail due to problems with the Berkeley DB and some library incompatibilities. There are much better chances to get a working Citadel version on FreeBSD (I tested Citadel 8.05 on FBSD 8.3). I think citadel on *BSD would be a very nice (fast and very low hardware requirements) option, so we should keep the code working at least for FreeBSD. I will try more recent citadel version on FreeBSD soon and report my experience and test results (due to very limited time I can only do this with time lag).
Best regards
Horschde

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3317197Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:13:25 +05003317197@Uncensored

 

Wed Aug 29 2012 09:28:53 EDT from richardb49 @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: no init.d/citadel

I got Citadel 7.83 with WebCit 7.83, server build 8756 up and running (8.14 just did not seem to want to install). I did find that citadel-suite would not install unless the other components were installed. I was under the impression that was the purpose of citadel-suite. Something for the future to look at by someone. The next issue is recovering user emails. I have the /var/lib/citadel/data directory from the pre-crash. Is there any way to recover users and emails from this data? (Running Debian 6.0).




well, you need /var/lib/citadel  - since it contains citadel.control.
you should try with a similar setup - same berkeley db version as you used before - same citserver.
you must only use newer bdb versions, no older ones.
citadel-suite is just a meta package that drags other packages to install. it may be that these other packages have more dependencies, and you need to confirm them.
the gnome iconset has gotten a lot of dependencies - dunno why, it used to be just a bunch of icons :-(

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3317108Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:05:02 +05003317108@Uncensored

please have a look at:
http://citadel.org/doku.php?id=documentation:customize_webcit#wordingtranslating
if you have more questions, don't hesitate to ask; drop me a note, if I should commit some of the translations.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316971Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:08:34 +05003316971@Uncensored

How to translate the interface language from English to Portuguese?

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316881Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:58:02 +05003316881@UncensoredI would like to change to an ldap-auth-system, but it seems that the  
 >easy-install-version of citadel is not compiling with ldap-support. How
 
 >to solve this?  
  
 Install the openldap development libraries on your system, then remove all
*.sum files from /usr/local/ctdlsupport/etc, and run Easy Install again. 
]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316790Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:22:03 +05003316790@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316676Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:28:53 +05003316676@Uncensored

I got Citadel 7.83 with WebCit 7.83, server build 8756 up and running (8.14 just did not seem to want to install). I did find that citadel-suite would not install unless the other components were installed. I was under the impression that was the purpose of citadel-suite. Something for the future to look at by someone. The next issue is recovering user emails. I have the /var/lib/citadel/data directory from the pre-crash. Is there any way to recover users and emails from this data? (Running Debian 6.0).

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316588Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:19:42 +05003316588@Uncensored

Hello  
please someone can help me
was working fine but when I transfer all my 700 emails from my old email provider to my inbox room , now is stuck on "Loading messages from server please wait" I left that for more than 1 hours an nothing
 
thank you

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316503Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:10:12 +05003316503@Uncensored

The fix is also available in the current Easy Install build.  We will be doing official releases soon.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316408Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:35:33 +05003316408@Uncensored

Stefan,
the fix for this is already in git master and git stable-81x; its fixed in libcitadel and the fix will be released as 8.15.
If you want it fixed now, please try compiling the stable branch.

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316279Wed, 29 Aug 2012 03:23:22 +05003316279@Uncensored

It's been sent out via SSL SMTP via Citadel w/ authentication.
The username and pw are only in the citadel directory, so I don't know how I would be asked to pass authentication and actually do so if I was some other SMTP server other than citadel.
Yes even if I sent mail out through Citadel I get the same problem, no copy in sent items.  It's been about 4 months straight now.
 
Scott @ Carbon14
 

Tue Aug 28 2012 13:25:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored  Subject: Re: creating a "common" private imap folder

Does this only happen when you send mail via imap? What if you send mail through webcit, do you still not get the sent items copy? If so then you might not be sending your mail out via citadel itself. 


 

]]>http://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316122Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:28:41 +05003316122@Uncensoredhttp://uncensored.citadel.org/readfwd?go=Citadel%20Support?start_reading_at=3316031Tue, 28 Aug 2012