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[#] Fri Jul 16 2021 12:19:17 EDT from Nurb432

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Speaking of union shop:

One of the girls I worked with, also just out of college, had ZERO experience in automotive world. Didn't even grow up in this area. 

She had to drive in the gated area to pick up something, in her HONDA ( GM plant )..  Only reason they didnt burn her car on sight was she was a sweet, clueless girl.  Was only there perhaps 5 minutes, but by the time she got back out of the lot, the big guy was called "this wont happen again, will it". ( no, it wasn't a question :) ) and word had traveled almost instantly across the floor.  I dropped what i was doing, ran out to met her at the gate to explain what she just did after she parked, before she came in past the guard shack.

Some 20 years before that, they would have flipped and roasted it just for being in the outer parking lot.  Times were starting to change.  

 



[#] Fri Jul 16 2021 12:20:24 EDT from Nurb432

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We used to joke we made IBM look like a bunch of high school band members.

 

This was EDS, at its height. 

Fri Jul 16 2021 12:11:13 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Ah yes, the old "IBM culture" that became pervasive in Corporate America.  Never leave your desk without your jacket on.  Cashing your paycheck at a bar is grounds for dismissal.  That sort of thing.

 

 



[#] Fri Jul 16 2021 16:43:39 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I'm glad I missed that period and started my career on the West Coast. Evidently Jobs and Gates and the rest of them got THAT much right - tipping over that kind of apple cart. 

 

 



[#] Fri Jul 16 2021 16:55:13 EDT from Nurb432

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After i left EDS, but stayed in automotive, pretty much everything was more "business casual".   Was also told once, um dude, ditch the tie, now.  Of course people out in the plants were often given uniforms, so they didnt get their street clothes dirty/destroyed. Office workers, even tho we got dirty too, were on our own. 

Where i'm at now, we went to jeans and 'collar shirts' 7 or 8 years ago.   Unless you deal with the public, then its some sort of dark colored 'pants' and a polo shirt with a logo.

 



[#] Sun Jul 18 2021 07:07:00 EDT from anonymous

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2021-07-08 17:13 from Nurb432
Ok i downloaded it, but got lesbian office porn instead.   Ok just
kidding. Its a movie right, and not a TV show? I did download a
movie.. If that is it, ill try to watch it this weekend.
Wed Jul 07 2021 08:25:59 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions



Your life literally is Office Space. I can't believe you've never
seen it. 


I am disappointed that it didn't turn out to be lesbian office porn. And I am not a fan of lesbian porn at that.

[#] Sun Jul 18 2021 08:15:16 EDT from Nurb432

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Kidding aside, that WAS the first page of search hits when i looked. I had forgot to turn off the 'xxx' filter. 



[#] Sun Jul 18 2021 19:04:43 EDT from Nurb432

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Or is that turn on the filter?

Either way, it had xxx results in the list and of course that overpowers 'regular' results unless you tell it not to do that. 

 

Sun Jul 18 2021 08:15:16 AM EDT from Nurb432

Kidding aside, that WAS the first page of search hits when i looked. I had forgot to turn off the 'xxx' filter. 



 



[#] Fri Jul 23 2021 14:43:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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One more reason to have separate work and personal computers.



[#] Sat Jul 24 2021 11:51:25 EDT from Nurb432

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So boss did order me a 13" i7 macbook. No questions asked.  "I put in a ticket to have it ordered, supposed to take a week or 2 "  I tried to not be too needy " 1TB is plenty.. " etc.   I just wanted to get in before everything was M1, and mine is something like 5 years old now. Im sure age-death is coming and at that age it wont get fixed unless i did it myself.

Of course Linux goes on even before the first boot.

 

Does mean i have to get another USB-C hub to leave at the office.  The laptop i have now it predates USB-C.  So its got apple ports for video and old style usb ports.   it has served me well tho. ( originally i actually had OSX on it, then ran VBox to get windows and Linux, but after the 3rd OS update, video got unstable so one went Linux for the host OS.   I would never buy one out of my own pocket as its way over priced, but the hardware really isn't 'bad'.



[#] Sat Jul 24 2021 14:42:01 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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The problem with Macs is that they try to get too much into too tiny of a space, and they use that to justify making non user-repairable. 

The 2012ish Unibody was the last fairly easy to repair Macbook - and even then, they were having irreparable  heat related issues. 

I'd like to have a newer Intel Mac - but they started making them impossible to upgrade or repair after the 2012 body style. 

 

Sat Jul 24 2021 11:51:25 EDT from Nurb432

So boss did order me a 13" i7 macbook. No questions asked.  "I put in a ticket to have it ordered, supposed to take a week or 2 "  I tried to not be too needy " 1TB is plenty.. " etc.   I just wanted to get in before everything was M1, and mine is something like 5 years old now. Im sure age-death is coming and at that age it wont get fixed unless i did it myself.

Of course Linux goes on even before the first boot.

 

Does mean i have to get another USB-C hub to leave at the office.  The laptop i have now it predates USB-C.  So its got apple ports for video and old style usb ports.   it has served me well tho. ( originally i actually had OSX on it, then ran VBox to get windows and Linux, but after the 3rd OS update, video got unstable so one went Linux for the host OS.   I would never buy one out of my own pocket as its way over priced, but the hardware really isn't 'bad'.



 



[#] Sat Jul 24 2021 15:51:17 EDT from Nurb432

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Right, its why i would never buy a new one with my own money.  But, since boss is paying, its the better choice for me all things considered. The hardware is NOT controlled by our GPO, for starters.

I do own one of my own, but it was from back when the battery still came out on its own, and underneath was the drive and ram.   Core Duo if i remember right.  Still works.  Older than 2012.  Still had a DVD drive in it.

Sat Jul 24 2021 02:42:01 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

The problem with Macs is that they try to get too much into too tiny of a space, and they use that to justify making non user-repairable. 

The 2012ish Unibody was the last fairly easy to repair Macbook - and even then, they were having irreparable  heat related issues. 

I'd like to have a newer Intel Mac - but they started making them impossible to upgrade or repair after the 2012 body style. 

 


[#] Mon Jul 26 2021 12:35:16 EDT from Nurb432

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2008 for the one i own myself. Man, time flies. still works fine tho. 



[#] Mon Jul 26 2021 22:16:38 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Mine has the ATI Radeon bug. If I use it like it is meant to be used, if I hit the GPU, the GPU will fry and kill the video output on it. The "Fix" is to cut the circuit traces to the ATI, but in a diode or crystal or something, and trick the Mac into bypassing it to run on the Intel HD GPU. 

But I'm kinda considering - what if I disassemble the whole thing and build it into an ATX or other case - and put massive cooling on the ATI GPU. It doesn't NEED to be a laptop. 


I can't believe that no one ever came up with an effective cooling solution for this model year of Mac. 

 

Mon Jul 26 2021 12:35:16 EDT from Nurb432

2008 for the one i own myself. Man, time flies. still works fine tho. 



 



[#] Tue Jul 27 2021 17:05:03 EDT from Nurb432

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My old one is NVIDIA, Office mac is Intel.

The one i'm getting is Intel. Wont happen in a week tho l;like i thought, now we have to get a quote from apple, go thru procurement, go up 200 levels for approvals outside normal channels,  bla bla. Since we dont have a contract for 'computers' anymore, we cant 'just order it'.  ( seems old contract expired. The ones that won the bid for the next, backed out at last minute.. so we are screwed. Having to bid out again and we cant get anything be it a PC or Apple, or whatever ).  Gotta love working for who i do. . REEEEEEDDDDD TAAAAAPPPPEEE 

So i'm good, at least GPU wise :) 



[#] Wed Jul 28 2021 15:31:54 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Yeah... my problem with Macs is I want something newer than Core 2 Duo but there was a very small window of unibody intel Core (i3/i5/i6/Mini/iMac) that are user repairable/upgradable. Once they got to the Intel Core CPUs, they quickly made them difficult to disassemble. In fact, it makes me very limited in running anything after High Sierra. 

 

Tue Jul 27 2021 17:05:03 EDT from Nurb432

My old one is NVIDIA, Office mac is Intel.

The one i'm getting is Intel. Wont happen in a week tho l;like i thought, now we have to get a quote from apple, go thru procurement, go up 200 levels for approvals outside normal channels,  bla bla. Since we dont have a contract for 'computers' anymore, we cant 'just order it'.  ( seems old contract expired. The ones that won the bid for the next, backed out at last minute.. so we are screwed. Having to bid out again and we cant get anything be it a PC or Apple, or whatever ).  Gotta love working for who i do. . REEEEEEDDDDD TAAAAAPPPPEEE 

So i'm good, at least GPU wise :) 



 



[#] Wed Jul 28 2021 16:44:50 EDT from Nurb432

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Not mac related.. but back to the office

I have 2 people sitting near me me. Some sort of security people.  I think they are contractors, or come from Purdue, something.  A guy that looks like hes in his late 30s, and a girl perhaps 25, that looks like she does not eat, covered head to toe in tattoo. Nice people, but stay to themselves..

Today i heard a cart get pulled up over there, and the manager over all the desktops "merry xmas". I of course popped up " i want gifts too ".  He made some comment "you dont want these, they are for them to tear apart".. gave them some screwdrivers and 2 laptops.. 

I can only imagine that it will lead to more restrictions and making it even harder to do our job.  

 

Hell now with all the security stuff running, i lose 50% of my CPU off the top most days.  Thanks security team. 



[#] Sat Jul 31 2021 10:25:04 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I can't believe that no one ever came up with an effective cooling
solution for this model year of Mac. 

Apple did. It's called "buy the newer Mac" :)

Right to Repair battles are apparently being fought bigly right now. It should be interesting to see what happens. Although that would probably only cover availability of parts to third-party repair shops. There's nothing to stop Apple from continuing to build overly dense bricks.

There's a lot not to like about Apple, but in the end they are building what their customers are buying. Those who eagerly empty their wallets for the latest Apple products vastly outnumber those who want to repair them. You guys are a minority.

[#] Sat Jul 31 2021 11:18:12 EDT from Nurb432

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lol

Sat Jul 31 2021 10:25:04 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I can't believe that no one ever came up with an effective cooling
solution for this model year of Mac. 

Apple did. It's called "buy the newer Mac" :)


 



[#] Sat Jul 31 2021 11:21:52 EDT from Nurb432

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May end up with a 'PC' afterall.   Now that we have effectively been sent to procurement, its like 1000' of red tape and at least 15 undefined hoops to jump thru.  While everyone everywhere jokes about this sort of thing, now that i have seen it, I honestly think they make it so hard, that people juts give up and dont buy anything that isn't 'standard' ( be it a computer or a stapler.. )

I did check last week with another guys machine, and at least they are not locking down the ability to boot off USB, so i can at least blow away windows on if, if i end up with a PC laptop. ( yet. im sure that will happen once security realizes it )



[#] Sat Jul 31 2021 23:37:26 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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All not untrue. 

:) 

 

Sat Jul 31 2021 10:25:04 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I can't believe that no one ever came up with an effective cooling
solution for this model year of Mac. 

Apple did. It's called "buy the newer Mac" :)

Right to Repair battles are apparently being fought bigly right now. It should be interesting to see what happens. Although that would probably only cover availability of parts to third-party repair shops. There's nothing to stop Apple from continuing to build overly dense bricks.

There's a lot not to like about Apple, but in the end they are building what their customers are buying. Those who eagerly empty their wallets for the latest Apple products vastly outnumber those who want to repair them. You guys are a minority.

 



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