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[#] Tue Nov 17 2020 14:00:04 EST from LoanShark

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offensive for the sake of offense. Religion is a very fragile thing

absolutely. There's that aspect of someone who might be homosexual putting on the satanism thing just for shock value.

[#] Tue Nov 17 2020 21:28:43 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Tue Nov 17 2020 14:00:04 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored
offensive for the sake of offense. Religion is a very fragile thing

absolutely. There's that aspect of someone who might be homosexual putting on the satanism thing just for shock value.

There is a very strong element of, "your belief is so offensive to me, I'm going to adopt the belief or value system that is most offensive to you, so you'll know how it feels and come to empathize with what a terrible person you are." 

It is working swimmingly for helping people bridge their differences while learning how to co-exist. It is a shame we didn't try this approach sooner. 



[#] Wed Nov 18 2020 07:54:49 EST from LoanShark

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Or maybe it's just in-group-recognition-signalling; if you get it, you're part of the intended audience, if you don't, you're not.

(Something that NEVER happens on BBSen.)

[#] Wed Nov 18 2020 08:29:39 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Wed Nov 18 2020 07:54:49 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

Or maybe it's just in-group-recognition-signalling; if you get it, you're part of the intended audience, if you don't, you're not.

(Something that NEVER happens on BBSen.)


Sacramento Citadelphia concluded that the correct plural of BBS is BBSi. 


:D :D :D 

I suppose that there is an element of in-group signaling involved. I was raised pretty WASPy - and although I adopted some of the religious symbolism of the punk scene... crucifix earrings more than anything - I recalls specifically being uncomfortable with both "Personal Jesus," by Depeche Mode and "Jesus He Knows Me," by Phil Collins, even in the day. 

Little hints I was going to grow up to be a Conservative. 

 



[#] Sat Dec 12 2020 16:23:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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2020-11-17 14:00 from LoanShark
offensive for the sake of offense. Religion is a very fragile thing


Of course. I think a lot of the people who broadcast the Satan worship thing are really just atheists who think the whole thing is a big joke.

[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 11:21:06 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Probably. It seems like a lot of people don't necessarily believe in what they claim to believe - they believe in something else - but their professed belief helps them justify what they actually believe. 

The people who casually regard Satanism as a big joke are generally terrible people all around who are constantly seeking conflict and generally have abrasive attitudes about everything. They're a type. 

People who actually believe in Satan, and have decided he is the guy to go with, that is the winning team - though... I think frequently those folks are potentially dangerous if not already so. 


Sat Dec 12 2020 16:23:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
2020-11-17 14:00 from LoanShark
offensive for the sake of offense. Religion is a very fragile thing


Of course. I think a lot of the people who broadcast the Satan worship thing are really just atheists who think the whole thing is a big joke.

 



[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 22:07:18 EST from mo

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Agree; Bond is not a serious super-spy, it's all a bit of campish fun.

Fri Nov 13 2020 08:36:07 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold
I actually really enjoyed Skyfall. The problem with the current Bond movies is that they've lost the campiness that made them fun.

 



[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 22:33:21 EST from mo

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Satan? :)

Who is this guy anyhow?  Does he promise salvation for money? Has he got a mansion in the hills, a fast car and a sailboat?

If the answer is no, then he really hasn't made it yet ...

 

 



[#] Mon Dec 28 2020 00:37:01 EST from arabella

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Fri Nov 13 2020 12:26:12 PM EST from ParanoidDelusions

So, an interesting observation above is that Disney is infiltrated with LGBT activists. 

I've noticed that MOST of the activist agendas, from BLM to SJWs, Atheists to Fantasy Roleplay and Video Gaming - are really quietly driven as platforms for the LGBTLMNOPQRSTUV+ agenda. 

The first time I realized it was arguing with an atheist who claimed to be a satanist and then lectured me about how satanists do not believe in Satan - they're theists who adopted Satanism in order to offend Christian homophobes. 

Looked into that a little bit, and the modern Satanic Church isn't really a theist or atheist religion at all - it is a pro LGBT organization first and foremost. 

Then I noticed, no matter who you run into who is pushing SJW themes into some community *where SJW themes are irrelevant* - the person doing the pushing will have Pride flags and picture frames around their profile pic and photos of them at Pride parades and almost exclusively a focus on LGBT issues. 

I think this is a blind spot on the Right. LGBT activists infiltrate straight communities and organizations and then divide them over SJW issues as a coherent strategy - it isn't coincidence. There is some faction of the LGBT community that has a roadmap on doing this. 

I have no problem with LGBTs... 

....

"OH! Here it comes. Here come the het transphobe gatekeepers challenged by the fact that there are a lot of TGs who love the Amiga!!!" 

Like.... every time. 

 



I have the somewhat controversial opinion that the T does not belong with the LGB.

Also I was never a big fan of the Amiga.

Anywho, I do wish people would stop pushing their agendas down the throat of everyone else, just make interesting characters. If they be Gay, Straight, Trans, whatever, if they are interesting they will stand on their own merit.

Also they should be played by a person of whatever part of the community they are. I get really passed when a Transwoman is played by a clearly CISgendered woman. But that's a story for another time.



[#] Mon Dec 28 2020 17:14:18 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I always just sort of assumed that you weren't part of the cancel mafia. You're too chill, too friendly, to be one of them.

[#] Mon Dec 28 2020 18:02:49 EST from arabella

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Mon Dec 28 2020 05:14:18 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar
I always just sort of assumed that you weren't part of the cancel mafia. You're too chill, too friendly, to be one of them.

I'm not a cancel  person, I don't really care enough. Just occasionally I get a little bit too tightly wrapped. 



[#] Mon Dec 28 2020 22:51:30 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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On the first one, I'm not sure we can be friends. 

As for the "T" being part of the LGBT agenda - well - it is really not any of those things - it is the Global Communist/Socialist agenda driving cultural Marxism and divisive identity politics... so the more letters they can tack on, the more people they're likely to get joining ONE movement that is really just driving the agenda of a larger movement. BLM isn't really about the lives of black men mattering. AntiFA isn't really about being opposed to fascists, and the LGBT movement has been co-opted so that it isn't really about sexual preferences. It is about giving a bunch of different groups a single common enemy that they can all hate MORE than they hate one another. 

And they're working overtime to add MAPS to that movement and normalize that attraction too. 

I think that there are and always have been transsexuals who have gender identity confusion and that it can be a biological, physical and mental identity issue and in general these people should be treated with more compassion and tolerance than they have traditional met with in Western Society. I think there are also men who simply have deviant sexual interests and like dressing up in women's clothes. Lately - I think there are a lot of predators who have realized that by calling themselves trans and putting just a little effort into "transitioning," they get a lot more latitude to pursue their deviant interests. I think that makes the whole issue harder for people who are genuinely clinically transsexual as well as creating stigma for the rest of the LGB community. Jessica Yaniv, who was discussed elsewhere on this board, is a great example.

I've know TGs, TVs and cross dressers since I was a 14 year old punk kid on the streets in Sacramento in the 80s. The majority of them aren't much different than other people. But it has become kind of a fashionable trend and I think a lot of teenagers over the last decade have picked it up because it is the only thing that might shock their parents, who have multiple piercings, are covered in body art, and are veterans of 80s and 90s drug abuse. 

Finally - I think that Hollywood is hamfisted about virtue signaling LGBT issues because they're really more interested in pushing the agenda of division than fighting for equality, equity and tolerance for these groups - and that is part of what makes it so transparently annoying when they force these characters into their plots. 

 

Mon Dec 28 2020 00:37:01 EST from arabella

 

I have the somewhat controversial opinion that the T does not belong with the LGB.

Also I was never a big fan of the Amiga.

Anywho, I do wish people would stop pushing their agendas down the throat of everyone else, just make interesting characters. 

 



[#] Fri Jan 08 2021 14:05:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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That's kind of the point. Most of us have no problem with anyone living their lives the way they want to. We don't have any desire to abuse gay or trans people; for that matter, we don't have any desire to abuse people who don't look like us, or whatever other imaginary lines are drawn to keep us divided.

It's the activists who piss us off. It's the people who work as hard as they can to keep bigotry alive. And unfortunately, Hollywood is DOMINATED by those people. That's one of many reasons why I don't watch movies anymore.

I miss the cinema. I wish it still existed.

[#] Fri Jan 08 2021 16:02:24 EST from zooer

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I might have liked the Amiga but the person who always talked to me about was an annoying little twerp.  He became a far left activist, vegan, etc and he was willing to commit crimes for his causes.

 



[#] Fri Jan 08 2021 16:02:39 EST from zooer

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Why is this in Movies?



[#] Fri Jan 08 2021 18:08:38 EST from darknetuser

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2021-01-08 14:05 from IGnatius T Foobar

That's kind of the point. Most of us have no problem with anyone
living their lives the way they want to. We don't have any desire to

abuse gay or trans people; for that matter, we don't have any desire to

abuse people who don't look like us, or whatever other imaginary lines

are drawn to keep us divided.

It's the activists who piss us off. It's the people who work as hard

as they can to keep bigotry alive. And unfortunately, Hollywood is
DOMINATED by those people. That's one of many reasons why I don't
watch movies anymore.

I miss the cinema. I wish it still existed.



Go to oldies.com. Get loads of classics from the 50s and earlier at a discount.

[#] Sat Jan 09 2021 00:03:07 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Because the Left has made everything we love take a partisan side, from FRP gaming to movies?

Fri Jan 08 2021 16:02:39 EST from zooer

Why is this in Movies?



 



[#] Wed Jan 13 2021 20:34:28 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Wonder Woman 84 is awful. That is all.

[#] Thu Jan 14 2021 11:02:22 EST from darknetuser

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2021-01-13 20:34 from Ragnar Danneskjold
Wonder Woman 84 is awful. That is all.



I haven't had the displeasure of going through it. May you explain why it is so awful?

[#] Thu Jan 14 2021 15:26:27 EST from LoanShark

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It's... bad. Very bad. In a Forrest-Gump, feel-good-film sort of way, which is fine for a 2020 release, but doesn't make it a good film.

Cardboard characters. Meaningless, over-the-top plot. One character gets raped without his knowledge.

In other words, a typical Marvel film. I like Dr. Strange better.

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