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[#] Sun Oct 28 2018 21:25:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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For those of you who haven't heard, Red Hat is now officially dead. IBM bought them today for $34 billion dollars.

I imagine that the massive layoffs will start tomorrow as the entire operation is transferred to India. What should they rename their Linux distribution to? Top contenders are "Pink Slip Linux" and "Red Dot Linux".

They must be celebrating bigly over at Canonical today. IBM is going to screw up RH quickly.

[#] Fri Nov 02 2018 14:46:39 EDT from fleeb <>

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Government contracts help keep Red Hat alive. The government, and some private enterprises, really like the idea of having someone on the hook for problems, so they can jump up and down to get a solution.

It's difficult to make that happen for a lot of open source projects.

(But then, if you throw money at a problem, it tends to get solved faster).

[#] Sat Nov 03 2018 14:25:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Many organizations beyond a certain size still insist on paying Red Hat for "support" even if they have Linux expertise in-house. I think it's silly, but I don't complain about it too much because it *does* funnel real money into open source development.

At least that's the case now. Red Hat funds a lot of open source development work that is then contributed back upstream. If that stops happening now, then we have no reason to give them money and they can just fade away with the rest of IBM.

[#] Fri Nov 09 2018 15:47:16 EST from LoanShark <>

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WSL is going to be supplanted *as a development platform* by Docker for Windows' new HyperV-hosted minimal linux kernel. But the latter is in a very raw state at the moment, so I'm avoiding it for now.

Unfortunately, Docker for Windows is not going to be an easy replacement for bash scripts that call docker-compose if there's any significant Linux dependency :(

MacOS apparently works better for some of this stuff... but right now I'm coming at you from Ubuntu running in a Virtualbox

[#] Fri Nov 09 2018 16:01:50 EST from LoanShark <>

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Apparently this is permitted by GPLv2, under which the Linux kernel is

still licensed. (GPLv3 changes this, to avoid exactly this type of
estoppel; it just so happens that the people who would wield it are the

Yow. I think ESR is off the deep end on this one. GPLv2 is irrevocable (except for the explitly defined causes, like violation) for all practical purposes.

[#] Sat Nov 17 2018 12:32:07 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Cite? I'd like to learn more about that.

[#] Sat Nov 17 2018 12:33:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Probably. But at this point the whole thing seems to be yesterday's news, which means either it wasn't all that big a deal after all *or* that the SJW's won and everything will die ... take your pick :)

[#] Sun Nov 18 2018 18:44:16 EST from LoanShark <>

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I don't have the exact articles I was looking at, on hand at the moment, but I'm getting more and more up speed on this and can answer questions.

Docker for MacOSX hosts Linux processes in a virtualbox. It's not bad, but it has some severe performance issues for certain workloads.

Docker for Windows hosts Linux processes in some virtual machine. Not sure what the virtualization technology is right now, but they're building a HyperV solution (as an alternative?) which is bad for some scenarios, because HyperV imposes severe performance penalties on the Windows host for certain desktop workloads, particularly if you have Nvidia drivers installed there will be a lot of TLB thrashing.

WSL isn't up to the task of running Docker yet, either, because its support for iptables is mostly just a stub. It can run parts of docker, but not docker-compose, and everybody is using docker-compose.

So if, like me, you want to develop for Docker and you don't want to run Linux on the bare metal, you'll be running an actual Linux kernel in a virtualization environment on etiher Windows or Mac OS X. So you might as well just skip the lackluster VM's that are built into Docker for Windows / Docker for OSX and run a VM that you have full control over. The best options are Virtualbox (free, but less graphics performance) or VMWare Workstation Pro (about $250, but might be an affordable luxury if you want a bit better graphics performance.)

[#] Sun Nov 18 2018 18:50:11 EST from LoanShark <>

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Yeah, definitely the latter. It only *looks* like it's yesterday's news, because the SJW's have won and have suppressed all actual news ;)

[#] Mon Nov 19 2018 12:20:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Right, I knew they were using a minimal HyperV/Linux footprint to run Docker containers on Windows, but I was hoping you could point to where they intend to move both development and deployment onto that environment. I've had such a good experience with WSL that it seems weird that they'd do anything other than move more towards that direction.

If the industry is moving towards "Docker All The Things" then that could be good ... it would give us the ability to finally build packages that will work on every version of Linux *and* on Windows. I don't see it working very well for desktop software, but who writes desktop software anymore? :)

[#] Mon Nov 19 2018 16:22:41 EST from LoanShark <>

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I don't know what to tell you. I spent some time searching for exactly what you're looking for, and it definitely doesn't exist yet. I couldn't even find any blog posts that say "we're working on it."

I would definitely prefer WSL to the full-virt solutions if they could get it to work. That would just be a really cool solution if all the issues were ironed out. So hopefully, proper iptables support will show up in some future Insider build.

[#] Tue Nov 27 2018 09:36:21 EST from fleeb <>

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don't see it working very well for desktop software, but who writes
desktop software anymore? :)


[#] Tue Nov 27 2018 16:03:17 EST from LoanShark <>

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finally got ubuntu 18.04 responding well as a virtualbox guest. the trick is to ditch Gnome3 and install xfce, which does not use opengl-based compositing.

Window drags are fast now! And I have tons more available memory.

Also did some maintenance with apt-get to get rid of most gnome-* packages and the "snapd" stuff, which was only being used for gnome components.

[#] Wed Nov 28 2018 11:24:08 EST from LoanShark <>

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comin' at you from a bare linux 80x25 tty now, while my system recovers & reinstalls a large number of .deb's.

never use tasksel on ubuntu. it may uninstall a large number of .deb's, right down to things like "ifupdown" and your Intel network driver kernel module. at least it left virtio-net, so I was able to get back online.

[#] Wed Nov 28 2018 12:37:07 EST from LoanShark <>

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gawd, that was brutal.

it's been a long time since I've used Linux directly on the desktop. I guess this is the learning curve.

[#] Wed Nov 28 2018 17:50:45 EST from LoanShark <>

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geckodriver, you are going to be the bane of my existence

[#] Tue Dec 04 2018 10:19:38 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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it's been a long time since I've used Linux directly on the desktop. I

guess this is the learning curve.

"directly" is virtual machine or bare metal in this case? These days I do most of my Linux work either on a server or in WSL (what can I say ... it actually works) but in my home we still use Linux desktop for video editing (Kdenlive beats anything else I've tried).

tasksel looked rather obtuse when I tried it. I got in and saw it, and bailed out before letting it take any action. It's one of the many things Ubuntu keeps changing around and experimenting with. They do that a bit too much for my taste.

[#] Tue Dec 04 2018 10:34:24 EST from LoanShark <>

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directly enough; ubuntu 18.04 running inside vbox on a w10 host. everything configured paravirt as much as possible. WSL isn't nearly enough for my use case, as discussed previously.

guess what? soon there will be no longer any reason to purchase VMware Workstation; Vbox is finally getting a working 3D stack: in 6.0

[#] Tue Dec 04 2018 10:35:39 EST from LoanShark <>

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seamless mode is great. blends linux and windows desktop windows, err, seamlessly. it's like having one computer that does two things. of course it's existed for years, so I'm not cheerleading new news here.

[#] Thu Dec 06 2018 13:02:06 EST from LoanShark <>

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Canonical kicks RH while they're down, throws salt on the wound etc:

Unfriendly competition, I guess. I'm in a helluva mood this morning, don't mind me.

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