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[#] Mon Sep 23 2013 07:41:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Google engineers generally have the freedom to make choices like that on their own. There's no requirement for everyone to use the Official House Build (tm) of Linux. So it would seem that the self-driving-car team liked Ubuntu and used it.

It does seem weird in general that Ubuntu is so popular at Google, when Ubuntu is basically just Debian with training wheels, and Google engineers tend to be smart enough to not need training wheels.

[#] Mon Sep 23 2013 20:15:52 EDT from Sig

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Sometimes it's not a matter of being smart enough to figure it out, so much as smart enough not to spend time figuring it out when you have other things to do that no one has figured out yet.

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 21:48:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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True ... that's why I use Debian instead of rolling a Linux OS from scratch, which I'm capable of doing. I'd rather spend my computer time getting stuff done than futzing with the OS. Ubuntu is just too much though. Too much crapware, and that Unity UI is almost as bad as Windows 8. So basically I'd have to spend extra time turning it back into something usable. I don't like having my time wasted.

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 10:46:01 EDT from Sig

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I've been pretty happy with Linux Mint Debian Edition. The original Mint is an enhanced version of Ubuntu (based on Debian); for the DE, they just cut Ubuntu out of the loop and based it on Debian directly. It's not quite as polished, but a lot snappier and a bit more flexible.

For the AWS Citadel instance I created, I picked a Debian image. I pretty much have it configured, except for allowing a BBS ssh login without a password.
There's some setting hiding somewhere that won't let it take a blank password.
I forget where all I looked now; I'll have to take that up again.

I had it networked with my test system on my home PC (just based on IP address) and it sort of worked. I could send mail messages back and forth, but the room sharing wasn't quite there yet; I think there was at least one more place to configure things.

AWS is... interesting.

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 12:16:01 EDT from Sig

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That was one of the places I hit, but I think there's a PAM module setting somewhere overriding it. The default config on the image allows ssh only for the admin account using a key; opening it up beyond that without screwing with things dramatically has been an interesting exercise. I have as far as creating a bbs user and setting its shell to the citadel client (with rnano as the external editor; don't judge me). I could live without a password-less login, certainly, but it's just one extra step.

[#] Sun Oct 06 2013 14:51:33 EDT from Freakdog <freakdog@dogpound2.citadel.org>

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Sat Oct 05 2013 12:16:01 PM EDT from Sig @ Uncensored
That was one of the places I hit, but I think there's a PAM module setting somewhere overriding it. The default config on the image allows ssh only for the admin account using a key; opening it up beyond that without screwing with things dramatically has been an interesting exercise. I have as far as creating a bbs user and setting its shell to the citadel client (with rnano as the external editor; don't judge me). I could live without a password-less login, certainly, but it's just one extra step.

I had to do a search on the net, but I found a post on a support forum that detailed replacing the entry in /etc/shadow for the encrypted password with another encrypted empty password.

Couple that with the sshd_config setting to allow empty passwords, you should be good.



[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 05:57:13 EDT from dothebart

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https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A20/

So, you get a cheap Allwinner A20 board with all important sockets on one side.

Its the same chip as on the next generation qubie board, plus some more sockets

(two UEXT sockets, olimex specific; nice sets of extension boards available for these: https://www.olimex.com/Products/Modules/ )



[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 11:47:10 EDT from ax25

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The single board systems are getting cheaper.  I used a Raspberry Pi this weekend for a voip server at the Twin Cities Marathon.  It worked quite well for the 5 extensions we had set up.



[#] Mon Oct 07 2013 11:59:07 EDT from Sig

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I had to do a search on the net, but I found a post on a support
forum that detailed replacing the entry in /etc/shadow for the
encrypted password with another encrypted empty password.

Couple that with the sshd_config setting to allow empty passwords,
you should be good.


I did see a reference to that elsewhere; I may give that a swing.

[#] Tue Oct 08 2013 15:59:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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There is some concern out there over the fact that even though more than a million Raspberry Pi boards have been sold, they're not having the effect that the project was intended to create -- flexible hobbyist computers for aspiring young techies to learn on.   That may or may not be a problem.



[#] Tue Oct 08 2013 17:42:07 EDT from dothebart

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well, the OLPC also didn't fly, but it inspired and created the netbook hype. catching up on that made microsoft totaly miss the tablet hype and greatlely set more fire on stillborn vista; even windows 7 got a real bad start due to them trying to make it somehow run on netbooks...

the pi proved that there actually is a market for cheap arm systems; and it gave XMBC an affordable home helping to smarten up dumbtv and raising the bar in terms of features & usability for smart tvs.

like the arduino proved that people want easy to use micro controllers, the price of the pi set the price tags for such poor micro controllers and now spawns the crossovers - powerfull arm systems able to controll embedded devices



[#] Tue Oct 08 2013 17:44:09 EDT from Sig

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There's nothing PREVENTING what it was designed for; it just turns out there is more demand for it doing other things. I almost bought one last week, but decided to play with a virtual Amazon server instead for now.


[#] Sat Oct 26 2013 21:33:31 EDT from Sig

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Interesting note: LS does the same thing as sl (if you have sl installed).

[#] Sat Nov 02 2013 19:32:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Just for teh lulz (or more realistically, to feed a dream of someday needing more coverage) I turned my home server into a wireless access point by tossing a wifi card into it and running hostapd.

Not exactly a walk in the park, but it wasn't that hard either. I needed extra firmware for the card (firmware package was in the debian nonfree repo) and I had to manually configure a beaconing frequency to get it to announce itself at all.

So far I'm getting reception around the house that's roughly equivalent to the wireless router in the same room as the server.

[#] Sat Nov 02 2013 22:24:17 EDT from zooer

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I think I am picking it up from here!

[#] Mon Nov 04 2013 11:20:59 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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The SSID is "Linksys" can you see it?

[#] Mon Nov 04 2013 13:41:47 EST from zooer

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Of course, complete open. However I assumed "I (heart) Sergey!" was yours.

[#] Mon Nov 04 2013 13:47:57 EST from LoanShark

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I thought it was "Free Public WiFi"

[#] Mon Nov 04 2013 18:53:32 EST from fleeb

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Who is 'Public Wifi'? For what was he arrested?

[#] Tue Nov 05 2013 10:15:51 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Actually I do run my wifi completely open. Anyone within range either already has their own Internet or doesn't care. I would have welcomed leeches just so I could mess with the data stream, but no such luck.

My next experiment is to run both the router's AP and the server's AP with the same SSID, bridged to the same network, on different channels. The eventual goal is to deploy it in a way that the server's AP is the one I expect to be using most of the time, with the router's AP serving as a backup.

I was expecting hostapd to be less than stable, but I suppose that with it being a key component that makes things like OpenWRT work, it's had its share of QA applied.

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