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[#] Fri Sep 21 2018 17:14:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I truly believe that most people aren't xenophobes.  People with an agenda are exploiting members and non-members of every ethnic, sexual, religious, etc. group in order to use them (all of us, really) as weapons to further their own political agenda.  And all of us, at one point or another, fall for it.  We just have to hope that we realize what's going on and change course before we accidentally become the very thing against which we think we're fighting.

The fact that Patricia Torvalds is a signatory on the "post-meritocracy manifesto" shows just how bad it has gotten.

[#] Fri Sep 21 2018 17:22:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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He didn't want a back door placed in the Linux kernel so they had to find someone who did want a back door.

One more theory being floated is that Intel has secretly backed the expulsion of Linus from the Linux project.  The ongoing flamefest between Linus and Intel is well known, and the biggest beef Intel (and many others, including me, actually) has with Linus is that he has always been adamantly opposed to having a stable Kernel ABI.

I do understand that the rationale behind an unstable Kernel ABI is that it discourages closed source device drivers, encouraging driver maintainers to mainline their drivers in the kernel.  It's a worthy goal, but at the cost of Linux not being a long-term-stable target, the way Windows is.  I think, however, that if you have to take that kind of measure to guard your open source play, you're not making a compelling enough case for your software.  Linux and open source have already won.  Linux dominates pretty much everything except the desktop now.  If it were to become a long-term-stable target for software -- where you could build a single install package that will work on every Linux system for several years -- it might even have some penetration on the desktop too.

[#] Sun Sep 23 2018 06:34:33 EDT from nonservator

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Conquest Code of Conduct, from Conquest's Second Law. tl;dr: No socialism or social justice.

[#] Mon Sep 24 2018 15:42:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I like it. But I still think a good pro-meritocracy, anti-SJW CoC needs to have a lot of profanity in it.

[#] Mon Sep 24 2018 15:47:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The latest development on the Linux debacle: a movement has begun among those who have been oppressed by the SJW Hitlers, and those who feel they will be oppressed, to rescind their license grants on code they have contributed.
Apparently this is permitted by GPLv2, under which the Linux kernel is still licensed. (GPLv3 changes this, to avoid exactly this type of estoppel; it just so happens that the people who would wield it are the good guys this time around.)

DDG the words "linux" and "killswitch" together to read more.

[#] Tue Oct 02 2018 15:10:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I grow tired of this conversation.

DF: "I've been asked to review the Postfix logs to find out why some mail isn't getting through. Where are they and are they text or binary?"
IG: "They're on <servername> and <servername> in /var/log/maillog. Search for lines containing 'status=' to see results."
DF: "<screenshot of DF trying to connect to unqualified server name using Microsoft RDP client> I can't connect to either one?"
IG: "They're Linux machines. Use SSH."
DF: "What command do I use for SSH?"
IG: <Remembers LoanShark's advice: "punch the dumb fuck in the face", deletes the thread instead>

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 11:36:08 EDT from fleeb <>

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Install the Linux sub-system on his machine, then choose a flavor of Linux to install, and have him use proper ssh.

Later, perhaps he'll consider using proper Linux, without the Microsoft crutch.

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 11:50:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Actually I got another email from him today ... seems he doesn't know much of Windows either. He wants me to tell him what DFS is and how to use it.

I don't mind mentoring; in fact I do it all the time. But this one seems to have never seen a computer before.

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 11:59:22 EDT from fleeb <>

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Would it be rude to recommend an introductory computer course?

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 12:38:03 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Point him at the almighty Google.

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 12:38:46 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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2018-10-03 12:38 from Ragnar Danneskjold
Point him at the almighty Google.

Although, he may come away thinking it's the Department of Financial Services.

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 15:21:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Although, he may come away thinking it's the Department of Financial


Well, they *do* probably keep multiple copies of everything.

[#] Fri Oct 05 2018 14:32:56 EDT from fleeb <>

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Perhaps he needs for Central Services to arrange for a visit from Information Retrieval.

"We do the work, you do the pleasure."

[#] Mon Oct 22 2018 12:38:10 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Linus is supposedly back in charge of the kernel again. We shall wait and see whether it's the real Linus or a lobotomized Linus.

[#] Tue Oct 23 2018 14:03:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Although I agree with "Fuck you Stallman" as a general principle, his words here are actually pretty tame when compared to the SJW "code of conduct" from the likes of C. Ehmke.

He actually goes as far as to say "I disagree with making 'diversity' a goal."
This is true; I say it all the time: diversity can be an attribute of a healthy community, but it should never be an end in itself. The document itself is *mostly* about not getting nasty with people within the context of a project's workspace, at least to the extent by which "The GNU Project" is still a thing anywhere other than in the FSF's imagination.

About the furthest to the SJW side he gets here is to make a footnote pointing to a page describing his own favorite genderless pronouns.

There is an endless list of reasons to say "Fuck you Stallman". At this point does anyone care?

[#] Tue Oct 23 2018 14:07:33 EDT from fleeb <>

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The goal is decent software. Diversity can provide some assistance towards that goal, but shouldn't be the goal in and unto itself.

And I mean 'can provide some assistance' in that the alternative perspectives available in a diverse set of views can help inform software quite a bit.
But, ultimately, that's a tool towards the goal, and not the goal itself.

[#] Tue Oct 23 2018 14:49:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Fun find of the day:

checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
./configure: 2582: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")

It's fun because this works on Linux but not FreeBSD.

[#] Thu Oct 25 2018 11:36:35 EDT from fleeb <>

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Same shell? bash?

[#] Thu Oct 25 2018 14:28:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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autoconf was run on the same FreeBSD host so it should generate a script that uses a compatible shell.

I really want to get rid of autoconf completely. conf-IG-ure works on BSD but it uses some GNU Make features that I haven't figured out how to work around. I can probably get it to run under Bourne shell (sh not bash) though.

Ultimately I just want to rewrite all of my code so that it runs with as little configuration as possible. When the GNU Autotools were written decades ago, that was a pipe dream, but things are better now. Think of all the cruft that is still in sendmail to support transports and rewrites that haven't been used in many years, while Postfix and others managed to be far more streamlined by optimizing for an SMTP-dominated world. Likewise, I think we can safely drop support for building on Irix and HP/UX and 56-bit Honeywell.

Probably the most exotic unix-like system anyone would try to build most software on these days would be Mac OS. Hopefully anything that works on both FreeBSD and OpenBSD will work there too. I suspect even Windows will emerge as a compatible target in the next few years, if they decide that WSL is acceptable as a deployment platform and not just a development platform.

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