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[#] Sun Sep 19 2021 09:45:39 EDT from Nurb432

Subject: Re: MiSTer

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I knew you were a fan, but wasn't sure if you actually had one yet.  I could not remember.

 

Not going to be getting into retro gaming with it, and was thinking more smallish RISC-V instead since it seems that the useful low end expremetal makerboards ( like BeagleV ) are being delayed again and again. At this stage i'm not going to sink 1500 bucks in a 'prototype' board, but i think the DE10 is enough to do it, with some video too. My other FPGA boards are a bit light for that beyond 'core' and i have that already on an IoT board i picked up last year. No, i dont expect to build a screaming RISC-V workstation and ditch ARM or something on a lower end commodity FPGA board, just something to play with and if it could do the other 2 decently as well, then would be extra incentive. I know it can do gaming type emulation, but id be running apps on their cores.

  • ST - well we all know im an ST fan.
  • 386 - I'm thinking of setting up an old VSTa system, perhaps even mess with code again.  ( coming from the other thread, getting tired of the industry.. )

 

But emulation on my desktop will do it all, so i still have to decide if i want to spend more $ on something that will mostly sit.



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 00:04:33 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I guarantee you MiSTer will do it better. There is something about bare metal that is more... tangible, more convenient, more permanent. With VMs and emulation - (which is really what emulation is... just a VM...) your machine is a *file*. You load an app, then you load a file. Paths get screwed up, files get lost, things *change*... the OS changes, the VM/Emulator changes, some patch comes along and you upgrade and suddenly paths are broken and config files are lost and you go, "I don't want to set all this shit up from scratch again." Profiles get lost. Software emulation is a hassle. 

Now - all that could be said about FPGA - you've got cores, which are just files that load and program the gates to whatever architecture you want to run, and then you've got profiles that point at HD images or configure the system (how much RAM, what speed processor, what kind of video, if ethernet is enabled)... But - they're highly static and there aren't all these abstraction/translation layers that are prone to change. You're not dependent on some framework that gets updated. It is the closest you can get to having a real machine. The DE10 Nano will set you back $190... if you don't want to retrogame - you don't need a RAM card - and the Multi IO adds a fan, ethernet, and a DB15 analog VGA... 


Sun Sep 19 2021 09:45:39 EDT from Nurb432 Subject: Re: MiSTer

I knew you were a fan, but wasn't sure if you actually had one yet.  I could not remember.

 

Not going to be getting into retro gaming with it, and was thinking more smallish RISC-V instead since it seems that the useful low end expremetal makerboards ( like BeagleV ) are being delayed again and again. At this stage i'm not going to sink 1500 bucks in a 'prototype' board, but i think the DE10 is enough to do it, with some video too. My other FPGA boards are a bit light for that beyond 'core' and i have that already on an IoT board i picked up last year. No, i dont expect to build a screaming RISC-V workstation and ditch ARM or something on a lower end commodity FPGA board, just something to play with and if it could do the other 2 decently as well, then would be extra incentive. I know it can do gaming type emulation, but id be running apps on their cores.

  • ST - well we all know im an ST fan.
  • 386 - I'm thinking of setting up an old VSTa system, perhaps even mess with code again.  ( coming from the other thread, getting tired of the industry.. )

 

But emulation on my desktop will do it all, so i still have to decide if i want to spend more $ on something that will mostly sit.



 



[#] Sun Oct 17 2021 14:56:47 EDT from Nurb432

Subject: More MiSTer

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Some sort of 'all-in-one' carrier for the DE-10, instead of buying a bunch of add-ons

 

http://www.heber.co.uk/product/multisystem/



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 01:25:00 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Posted... but took too long, security check failed. Lost my post.

The FOSS evangelists/fundamentalists in the MiSTer community are trying to tank this project.

 

Sun Oct 17 2021 14:56:47 EDT from Nurb432 Subject: More MiSTer

Some sort of 'all-in-one' carrier for the DE-10, instead of buying a bunch of add-ons

 

http://www.heber.co.uk/product/multisystem/



 



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 06:49:13 EDT from Nurb432

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That's too bad. Room for everyone.

Mon Oct 18 2021 01:25:00 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions Subject: Re: More MiSTer



The FOSS evangelists/fundamentalists in the MiSTer community are trying to tank this project.

 

 

 



[#] Mon Oct 18 2021 15:47:41 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Kind of my outlook. MiSTer has gotten to a critical mass where it is mainstreaming and the toxic hordes are arriving. Before, there were hostile nerds - but now... we've got people showing up who define themselves by something ELSE before they define themselves as "retro-gamers," and that is always the death of a community. 

"I'm a Black LGBT+, Communist, Retro-gamer - and I resent you gate-keeping me from this hobby with your white, male, heteronormative values!" 

 

Mon Oct 18 2021 06:49:13 EDT from Nurb432 Subject: Re: More MiSTer

That's too bad. Room for everyone.

Mon Oct 18 2021 01:25:00 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions Subject: Re: More MiSTer



The FOSS evangelists/fundamentalists in the MiSTer community are trying to tank this project.

 

 

 



 



[#] Sat Oct 23 2021 09:26:12 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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So which is it? The woke army or the FOSS fundamentalists? The latter are pretty easy to mess with; you just use words like "Linux" and "open source" and they tend to self-destruct.

Because it ought to be GNU/MiSTer or something.

[#] Sat Oct 23 2021 20:12:28 EDT from xtenbombx

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I hope the wokey dokies don't ruin it. They ruin everything.



[#] Tue Oct 26 2021 00:25:51 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I get the feeling a lot of the FOSS fundamentalists are actually the Woke Army infiltrating the community with the intent of replacing the unity of a love of retro-gaming with a primary focus on Identity Politics. 

Which is how they operate in every community they come in and destroy. They pick a cause that is *slightly* polarizing - and then they ratchet up the divisive rhetoric on everything until everyone is arguing on if Orcs as a Monolithically Evil Race is a proxy for black people. 

Seriously. It'll start with Free and Open Source software - and eventually we'll only be talking about how old white men are the gatekeepers of the RetroGaming community. 

 

 



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