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I get upset when they make it harder to get my work done, or even impossible. ( like taking 2 months to get fully vetted software approved to install that i got approval to buy in the first place... and it was just a freaking upgrade of what i had installed on another machine and others have .... yet they let me install gimp without asking .. even offering it in our catalog )
I do realize its their box their rules and sometimes they have no choice. But....
I still say the IT industry has become everything that i hate. And i have been looking for alternatives, but at my age, i may just have to retire out.
2025-03-13 14:55 from Nurb432
Subject: Re: Work computers
I get upset when they make it harder to get my work done, or
even impossible. ( like taking 2 months to get fully vetted
software approved to install that i got approval to buy in the
first place... and it was just a freaking upgrade of what i had
installed on another machine and others have .... yet they let
me install gimp without asking .. even offering it in our
catalog )
Unless you are being paid extras for productivity, then my official policy is if they screw with management, that is their problem rather than mine.
Places in which they care for productivity rarely face these issues, in my experience. If management does not care for productivity neither should the employees.
I know it is cynic as fuck but something I have learned is it does not pay to be the only one who wants to get a task accomplished when you are the only one trying to get it done. You get burnt and worst yet other employees end up complaining that you are at it. Not worth it. If you have a productivity mindset then move to a place in which they pay by accomplished objectives, else sit in your fat ass and enjoy the popcorn.
No, but here if you don't produce and meet goals decided for you, you no longer are employed. The 'why' you did not meet is not taken into consideration. And yes, i have seen people setup that way just to be outed. Among a few others, I had to go to court on one to produce documents, as he sued. Turned out, the documents we were told to provide supported him and his claim. It didn't go well, he got reinstated, back pay, fees paid. Of course he turned in his notice on the spot. Another i know of sued, won, and did come back, but with a different BU.
I actually was in a similar situation with another company once, long ago. i refused to steal from the customers. So they manufactured a way to get rid of me. I sued, won, and due to the 'evidence' of what was going they lost enough of their customer base to go under a year or so later. F-them ( and i was already working for another company by the time the case went to court.. got back pay, severance, 'time and trouble' etc. Not a lot in the bigger picture but it wasn't after the actual money. Just wanted to take down a criminal, and clear my name, as back then it was a smallish community and word travels.. I heard the people involved had to leave the state totally to start over their careers as word traveled and no one would touch them as employees. ( the owner just walked. he had millions saved up , but at least the gravy train stopped )
Unless you are being paid extras for productivity,
2025-03-14 00:30 from Nurb432
Subject: Re: Work computers
No, but here if you don't produce and meet goals decided for
you, you no longer are employed. The 'why' you did not meet is
not taken into consideration. And yes, i have seen people
Well, that is a red flag for sinking firm, and I deal the advise I deal to my friends here in such situation:
Start looking for elsewhere to go, and accept the position you have now is one of those things that "was profitable while it lasted." Usually I tell them to squeeze as much as they can out of their current position.
They are exempt from sinking. If they were to collapse, society has collapsed and it would be total anarchy and be academic. Profit is not on the agenda, and to an extent they have no limit on expenditures. ( might be a practical limit, as it might cause a populace revolt, but in theory, no limit )
Well, that is a red flag for sinking firm
I do realize its their box their rules and sometimes they have no
choice. But....
I've spent most of the day prepping my new work computer (they exchange most of them every four years). I'm on the list of people who are allowed to have admin rights on our own machines. Most of what I need to do involves blocking all access to things like MSN and Bing so it isn't trying to drive me towards that shit after every click or keystroke.
So they're using something called "Make Me Admin" [ https://github.com/pseymour/MakeMeAdmin/wiki ] for those of us in that category. So I looked it up. "If [the user is] authorized to obtain administrator rights, and [is] not already an administrator, the 'Grant Me Administrator Rights' button is enabled. [...] After a configurable period, the user is removed from the Administrators group by the service."
Does anyone else see right through this as quickly as I did? I selected the button to "temporarily" become an administrator, and then hard powered off the computer. When I booted back up I was permanently an administrator. Apparently the author of this little app didn't think to record in the service's database who is a "temporary" administrator; it just relies on the service continuing to be there a few minutes later to revoke the rights.
Hmmm ... I'm looking through some discussions on their github, and apparently they're ok with this ... they seem to understand that once you make someone an administrator even temporarily, there's really no way to stop them from giving themselves other ways of staying privileged. So I guess it's really just an implementation of the honor system.
Be nice if what we had would work that way. Even our desktop admin folks lost rights and its all via 'zero trust' nonsense where you have to be approved to run a non-whitelisted executable. Server admins, not yet, but soon.
And basically if you hose your PC to a certain point, what used to be fixable is now a shoulder shrug and a re-load. If you lose stuff, "well, should have had it out on one-drive or a network share, sorry".
IG,
That's about as much security as Windows (or pretty much everything else) offers you for when you walk away from your desk without locking it. At least in that case, though, powering it off doesn't leave you permanently unlocked. lol
It's more of a "oops, i didn't de-escalate my permissions" backup, I guess.
it. At least in that case, though, powering it off doesn't leave you
permanently unlocked. lol
Yeah. Either way I'm on the list of people allowed to have admin rights so even if it's not permanent I can keep using their tool. And I found that my permanent rights are now temporary again, so they might have a group policy or something else.
We're not allowed to install "unauthorized" software either, but that seems to be selectively enforced. I tried a couple of different web browsers without issue, but when I installed Brave they asked me to remove it (because it has a Tor client built in, and I "could" use it to bypass their network security).
What I really want is to just run Linux, but that's not allowed either. So I have to settle for WSL (which also requires permission, but I have permission for that too).
You know what, at this point I try not to get too wound up about it. I assume they're watching everything. There's a nanny-DNS at the network edge and they do question anything unwholesome if it's not blocked entirely. But my own computer is right here, just a button on the monitor to switch to it, so why even take the risk?
"why is it that when you run a report based on manager for the last 3 years the numbers dont seem to add up"
"perhaps if you are that stupid, you should not be a manager"