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[#] Tue Oct 19 2021 05:52:49 EDT from Nurb432

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if you like pretty graphs, you should try netdata sometime.

 



[#] Tue Oct 19 2021 12:21:31 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I actually don't. Proxmox graphs are *just* right. They tell me a few pertinent details without overwhelming me with data. 

 

Tue Oct 19 2021 05:52:49 EDT from Nurb432

if you like pretty graphs, you should try netdata sometime.

 



 



[#] Tue Oct 19 2021 16:32:57 EDT from Nurb432

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ya netdata can be overwhelming. its not meant to be a 'summary' 



[#] Tue Oct 19 2021 17:24:02 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I'm more of a "by the seat of my pants," kind of guy. I do a lot of my work on intuition and brute force. It has been effective - but in the industry - I really drive the A Type Data Miners nuts.

In unrelated news - it looks like we lost both Disboardia and Smashbot. I mean, they're both still up - but they're running different BBS software now. 

 

 

Tue Oct 19 2021 16:32:57 EDT from Nurb432

ya netdata can be overwhelming. its not meant to be a 'summary' 



 



[#] Tue Oct 19 2021 18:28:09 EDT from Nurb432

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That is too bad.

Tue Oct 19 2021 05:24:02 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions



In unrelated news - it looks like we lost both Disboardia and Smashbot. I mean, they're both still up - but they're running different BBS software now. 

 

 



[#] Tue Oct 19 2021 20:28:13 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Agreed.

 

Tue Oct 19 2021 18:28:09 EDT from Nurb432

That is too bad.

Tue Oct 19 2021 05:24:02 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions



In unrelated news - it looks like we lost both Disboardia and Smashbot. I mean, they're both still up - but they're running different BBS software now. 

 

 



 



[#] Wed Oct 20 2021 17:46:40 EDT from Nurb432

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Sounds like i need to get off my butt and put The Village back on the open-net again, and work around the DoS.



[#] Fri Oct 22 2021 17:44:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well I hope that they'll keep coming around here from time to time even if they're not running the software.

[#] Tue Oct 26 2021 00:22:00 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Agreed.

 

Fri Oct 22 2021 17:44:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Well I hope that they'll keep coming around here from time to time even if they're not running the software.

 



[#] Sat Oct 30 2021 15:31:04 EDT from Nurb432

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  • 12 core xeon, dedicated for mining and AI experiments. ( in this case CPU only, not using the GPU ). hash rate around 3k  ( dont mater if that is good or bad, its baseline for what comes next )
  • Only allocated 6 threads, so machine is barley loaded 1/2 way. ( not out to pound crypto, just playing with some things )
  • Thought id mess around with something that might eat CPU so didnt want to use my desktop. ( a DHT scanner )
  • Installed docker. Nothing else yet.
  • Hash-rate dropped down to 1300...   Really?
  • Killed the service, no change.  
  • Removed Docker, ( and a reboot ) back up to 3k.

 

 

One more reason not to like docker. 



[#] Thu Nov 11 2021 13:06:28 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Weird. I wonder if it was Docker itself or all of the cgroup and other stuff that needs to be present for Docker to run.

But yeah ... containers aren't exactly resource-efficient compared to running software directly. That's not what it's for.

[#] Thu Nov 11 2021 13:26:21 EST from Nurb432

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I wasn't even running an app inside docker yet...  this was running on the host native. 

Sure, i expect things to drop if i was running stuff within the container, its why i was going to use docker in this case, in theory zero impact after i was done messing around. Just wipe the container and move on. But i had not even got to the point of even pulling the container down.  Installed docker, down my rates went.. 

I tried the same experiment on a totally different box ( one of my arm machines, so rates were far lower to start with.. but still measurable ), same thing happened and the overall host performance dropped simply by installing docker.   Would it have been a huge deal in the real world where it was *all* containers, i suspect not, but it was detectable and noticeable, which is dumb.

Thu Nov 11 2021 01:06:28 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Docker. Grumble.
Weird. I wonder if it was Docker itself or all of the cgroup and other stuff that needs to be present for Docker to run.

But yeah ... containers aren't exactly resource-efficient compared to running software directly. That's not what it's for.

 



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