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[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 13:13:42 UTC from nonservator

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I hate the Olympics now more as a nationalist than I ever did as an anarchist.



[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 13:54:24 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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:) 

This is the first time I've ever seen a Citadel post rise to the level of prose. 

Wed Dec 09 2020 08:13:42 EST from nonservator @ Uncensored

I hate the Olympics now more as a nationalist than I ever did as an anarchist.



 



[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 14:14:31 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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A. I didn't know this was still a thing.

Break dancing, or the olympics in general? The last time I watched the olympics was the year they kept cutting back to footage of Mitsy and Bitsy (or whatever their names were) playing beach volleyball every ten minutes.

[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 16:32:42 UTC from nonservator

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PD - yeah, I was one of those liberty-minded youth who sneered at the idea of nations and cheered on the few "stateless" people who demanded to be able to participate in the Olympic spectacle. Now? The West is the best, our last best hope, and the hill I will die on. And I have a great appreciation for sports in general, while deriding more strongly than ever the "organized" aspect that serves as a poor substitute for patriotism and religion.



[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 18:10:00 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Are you the same person I recently tried to poach as a user on my own BBS? Because if so - that invitation still stands. 

At heart I'm a libertarian anarchist. But for practical purposes, I think it is a utopian idealist wetdream like any other. I could just as easily be a Communist - if I thought the practical ideals were even remotely possible. Both sound excellent in theory. The issue is the application of them in a real world full of corruption and self-interest and petty desires for authority and control. 

I'm very much anti Team Sports - not only do I consider them an opiate of the masses - they encourage dangerous group-identity, group-thinking and wagon-circling. I can't understand independent thinkers who enjoy any group-sport or team experience. I'm very much a "live and let die" kind of person. Teamwork can be great, and team sports can be fun, and being part of a group identity has strengths (Japan's Nationalist sense of identity is something awesome to behold, in many regards). I've softened to the idea as I've grown older - but I still think that forming a team or group is the first step on a slippery slope to being part of an angry, irrational mob doing inhumane things to anyone who isn't identified as part of the in-group. There is a punk talk channel on XM radio I've been listening to - and they're all East Coast punks - and pro sports is a huge part of their focus. I don't get that. Maybe it is an East Coast thing. Major league team sports seem more... passionate as a part of the culture on the East Coast. I mean, we have our Raiders/Lakers thing out here - but in general, we also have a very Californian, "I'm too cool for team sports," cultural thing, too. 


Among the few users logging in to my BBS - two of them are die-hard libertarians anarchists. They're constantly trying to assert how libertarian anarchism *can* work, how we are moving ever in that direction. I'm constantly arguing back that the whole concept is a big intellectual circle jerk. I'd love to have you taking part in those conversations. 




Wed Dec 09 2020 11:32:42 EST from nonservator @ Uncensored

PD - yeah, I was one of those liberty-minded youth who sneered at the idea of nations and cheered on the few "stateless" people who demanded to be able to participate in the Olympic spectacle. Now? The West is the best, our last best hope, and the hill I will die on. And I have a great appreciation for sports in general, while deriding more strongly than ever the "organized" aspect that serves as a poor substitute for patriotism and religion.



 



[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 19:02:13 UTC from zooer

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Wed Dec 09 2020 09:14:31 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
A. I didn't know this was still a thing.
Break dancing, or the olympics in general? 

 

Break dancing, I didn't know break dancing was still a thing. 



[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 20:08:54 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Almost everything that ever was a thing, is still a thing, somewhere, in some obscure corner. We ended up going to a skating rink in Ohio when we lived there - and it was still exactly the same scene it was between 1977 and 1982. Same music was playing, same contests, same light shows... same white trash girls making out back in the arcade with stoner boys. The Booth Sherriff was clearly an old school speed skater who had made a career out of his one true passion - a chubby bald dude that would occasionally come out of the DJ booth and skate aggressively through the crowd to put someone in the timeout box. 

And - even though I wasn't a local - all the locals could smell the freezer-burned-pizza and bubblge-gum flavored cotton candy stink of the Skating Rink snack-shop on me the minute I hit the rink and started doing speed-lap turns in the corners. 

"This guy is from some other rink, guys... keep your eyes on him..." 

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Wed Dec 09 2020 14:02:13 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

 

Break dancing, I didn't know break dancing was still a thing. 



 



[#] Wed Dec 09 2020 20:37:54 UTC from zooer

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You keep Hal and Funky Town out of this.



[#] Thu Dec 10 2020 06:24:32 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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*clap clap*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMpW2dBeeUg

 

Wed Dec 09 2020 15:37:54 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

You keep Hal and Funky Town out of this.



 



[#] Thu Dec 10 2020 12:23:00 UTC from nonservator

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PD - yes I am, but I have my hands full at the moment just using one retro BBS. I keep forgetting to use my shell account somewhere else.

 

I didn't ever watch Malcolm in the Middle when it was first on. Started watching Breaking Bad and everyone was gushing over "oh that guy from MItM is so good", but I figured I'd finish BB before trying MItM. Finally got around to it and all I can say is, as a smarter than average person, I could so have used that show as a kid. Great lessons, most notably: Being smart won't make you happy, especially when you remind everyone else of it. And even more importantly, it doesn't always make you right.

 

Tying this back to sports: "THE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN."



[#] Thu Dec 10 2020 15:18:53 UTC from darknetuser

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2020-12-08 11:11 from zooer
The fifth, of four horses of the apocalypse has appeared.

Break dancing gets Olympic status to debut at Paris Games in 2024
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/30470282/breakdancing-gets-ol

ympic-status-debut-paris-games-2024

 

A. I didn't know this was still a thing.

B.  WTF????


Well now we can officialy declare that the Olympic games are yet another piece of ruined shit.

Like the Nobel Prizes.

[#] Thu Dec 10 2020 15:28:11 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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As a smart kid, that I discovered MitM on first run... and loved it. 

But what I took from it was - "You're right, almost everyone else is stupid, and will make your life miserable so the best you can do is use your intelligence to torment them for your own amusement." 

It is like we were watching two different shows. :D 

It is a shame you're too busy to make it over - but of these libertarian guys are kelyboynes, too - and tormenting our own is the most fun of all. :) 

 

Thu Dec 10 2020 07:23:00 EST from nonservator @ Uncensored

PD - yes I am, but I have my hands full at the moment just using one retro BBS. I keep forgetting to use my shell account somewhere else.

 

I didn't ever watch Malcolm in the Middle when it was first on. Started watching Breaking Bad and everyone was gushing over "oh that guy from MItM is so good", but I figured I'd finish BB before trying MItM. Finally got around to it and all I can say is, as a smarter than average person, I could so have used that show as a kid. Great lessons, most notably: Being smart won't make you happy, especially when you remind everyone else of it. And even more importantly, it doesn't always make you right.

 

Tying this back to sports: "THE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN."



 



[#] Thu Dec 10 2020 15:30:16 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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I love it when I call myself a smart kid and then make a post that sounds like caveman talk. 

"As a smart kind, I discovered MitM on first run..." 

Thu Dec 10 2020 10:28:11 ESTfrom ParanoidDelusions @ Uncensored

As a smart kid, that I discovered MitM on first run... and loved i

 


 



[#] Thu Dec 10 2020 16:44:55 UTC from zooer

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Thu Dec 10 2020 10:18:53 AM EST from darknetuser @ Uncensored
2020-12-08 11:11 from zooer
The fifth, of four horses of the apocalypse has appeared.

Break dancing gets Olympic status to debut at Paris Games in 2024
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/30470282/breakdancing-gets-ol

ympic-status-debut-paris-games-2024

 

A. I didn't know this was still a thing.

B.  WTF????


Well now we can officialy declare that the Olympic games are yet another piece of ruined shit.

Like the Nobel Prizes.

The excitement of the Olympics died when they started using professional athletes as Olympians.



[#] Thu Dec 10 2020 17:23:41 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Truth. 

Thu Dec 10 2020 11:44:55 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

The excitement of the Olympics died when they started using professional athletes as Olympians.



 



[#] Tue Dec 15 2020 16:09:07 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I have a great appreciation for sports in general, while deriding
more strongly than ever the "organized" aspect that serves as a poor

Having been a tiny kid whose only experience with organized sports was getting pounded into the ground, I grew up with a disdain for sports. What I liked about the Olympics was that some of the activities were things that I actually enjoyed watching or even doing.

On the other hand, there are some weird ones. I still have no idea what curling is, even after watching it.

[#] Tue Dec 15 2020 17:53:48 UTC from zooer

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Curling is shuffleboard on ice.  Curling is cool as ice.



[#] Tue Dec 15 2020 23:45:09 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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So is Breakdancing going to be a winter sport? 

Is this simply them trying to SJW the Winter Olympics, which is traditionally kind of dominated by ethnicities that don't do as good in many of the SUMMER sports. 

Tue Dec 15 2020 12:53:48 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

Curling is shuffleboard on ice.  Curling is cool as ice.



 



[#] Wed Dec 16 2020 00:49:05 UTC from nonservator

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I was likewise a scrawny child who reflexively hated "dumb jocks" and "sportsball". But hey, we all think dumb ass shit as children.

 

"Olympic weightlifting is gymnastics under a bar."

 - Mark Rippetoe



[#] Wed Dec 16 2020 06:51:55 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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I was a scrawny kid who was always pretty athletic. I didn't get picked last, even for football - because I was quick, agile, and pretty durable. 

I never liked team things. I never liked cub scouts. I never liked anything where you were supposed to buy into a "greater good through sacrifice of individuality." 

And that included almost all team sports. I liked basketball, I liked volleyball. I was actually always fairly popular with the jocks. They're sports where you can showboat and work independently within a team framework. 

I gravitated toward speed skating, skate boarding. In my early 20's, I started doing pretty intensive weight training, and got pretty ripped. I hung out with all the Sac City college jocks - when we would play casual games of football - I was one of the first picked. But I still never really cared for the team spirit part of it all. Those guys were dangerous in a pack.