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[#] Thu Sep 13 2018 04:03:17 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Where has all the Science Fiction gone??

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I don't know how Fantasy became the conjoined twin of Science
Fiction, but I really wish it hadn't.  Science Fiction is NOT
supposed to come across as magic.  Unfortunately, I think it is

I suppose they have elements in common ... anachronism, the same suspension of the real world, but in different directions...

One depicts the world as it might have been, the other depicts the world as it might be...

I have to admit I was dressed in the style of the late 1500's when I met Leonard Nimoy at a convention.

[#] Thu Sep 13 2018 11:45:09 UTC from nonservator

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It was absolutely a mistake for literary awards to merge fantasy and scifi. Detrimental to both genres, and to fiction as a whole.



[#] Fri Sep 14 2018 12:49:04 UTC from fleeb <>

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Right... how much science fiction is really just fantasy posing as a kind of pastice of science fiction?

*Real* science fiction makes you think, right? It isn't science soap-opera.

Which isn't to take away any joy from the science soap-operas out there... they can be a fun watch. But they don't make you really think. They don't get you to contemplate things like the influence of language on human thought processes, or how string theory might be used for space travel.

So, yeah, much of that list didn't really have good, hard-hitting sci-fi.
And, truthfully, it's *hard* to make decent sci-fi... because you have to THINK.

(And I'm not given to believe a lot of thought happens these days).

[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 14:13:12 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Right... how much science fiction is really just fantasy posing as a kind of pastice of science fiction?

Most of it, now that you mention it.  Pretty much all of Star Wars is fantasy-in-space, or perhaps even just a space opera.   Real science fiction requires some imaginative speculation, some radical departure.



[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 16:02:50 UTC from wizard of aahz

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But sometimes I like space opera.

[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 17:52:06 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well that certainly doesn't disqualify it, it just means it isn't hardcore sci-fi. Like anything else, space opera runs the gamut from insanely great (for example, 20th century Star Wars) to completely unwatchable (for example, 21st century Star Wars).

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 15:28:54 UTC from fleeb <>

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At least Hulu is bringing back Animaniacs.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with Science Fiction.

Or *does* it?

[#] Fri Oct 05 2018 13:33:54 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I read about that the other day. Animaniacs was awesome. I hope Speilberg is able to keep his politics out of it.

[#] Fri Oct 05 2018 18:26:00 UTC from fleeb <>

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Things work better when he delegates creative control to others.

[#] Thu Aug 08 2019 23:55:11 UTC from darknetuser

Subject: Sci-fi magazines

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Hey guys, do you read any regular science-fiction magazine? Do you have any recommendations for good ones? Duckduckgoing around shows many rhits, but I usually get better results asking people away.



[#] Tue Mar 16 2021 00:47:36 UTC from tlhonmey

Subject: Re: Sci-fi magazines

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Archive.org has most of the back-issues of Galaxy...  That ought to take you at least a year or two to get through unless you have way too much time on your hands.



[#] Tue Mar 16 2021 03:12:05 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Funny, Amazon made a bunch of recommendations for Kindle SciFi magazines - and I was almost ready to pull the trigger - and then It came to me - it'll just be paying to get stories that push an agenda, and I'll be disappointed.



[#] Wed Mar 17 2021 16:25:20 UTC from darknetuser

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2021-03-15 23:12 from ParanoidDelusions
Subject: Re: Sci-fi magazines
Funny, Amazon made a bunch of recommendations for Kindle SciFi
magazines - and I was almost ready to pull the trigger - and then It

[Acame to me - it'll just be paying to get stories that push an agenda,

and I'll be disappointed.





Yup. It seems many modern publications are pozzed :)

If you do some research it turns out lots of current publications have political disclaimers in their websites, which is not good.

[#] Wed Mar 17 2021 17:54:22 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: Sci-fi magazines

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Yeah. When I was writing for Tech Republic, there was a big house cleaning where they cut about 95% of their editors and content contributors. The two Sr. Editors at the top were flaming liberals. 

Around the same time, I noticed that Wired, a bunch of video game outlets, and other media outlets like Gizmodo started going very Identity Politics on their articles. National Geographic was actually the *first* publication where I noticed this, and quit my long term subscription, years ago. 

It is kind of like how every "colonize Mars" or "set up a permanent space station in Earth Orbit" movie now starts out with a white male Captain who becomes incapacitated within the first 30 minutes of the movie, and his female, Chinese 1st Mate takes the helm. Once you see it as a pattern, it is hard to un see it.

Oh, there is also a white women who is a science engineer or botanist who is having a secret affair with the black man who is the chief-engineer. The white woman slowly becomes unstable, unable to handle the crisis. She may have a single child back on Earth. How she came to this position is left unanswered - but it was probably the fault of an abusive white male. 

Plug in whatever story you want to this formula. Lost on Mars, destroying a killer asteroid, investigating some cosmic anomaly, setting up a colony on the moon. Every single time. 

 

Wed Mar 17 2021 12:25:20 EDT from darknetuser Subject: Re: Sci-fi magazines
2021-03-15 23:12 from ParanoidDelusions
Subject: Re: Sci-fi magazines
Funny, Amazon made a bunch of recommendations for Kindle SciFi
magazines - and I was almost ready to pull the trigger - and then It

[Acame to me - it'll just be paying to get stories that push an agenda,

and I'll be disappointed.





Yup. It seems many modern publications are pozzed :)

If you do some research it turns out lots of current publications have political disclaimers in their websites, which is not good.

 



[#] Sat Jul 02 2022 15:59:34 UTC from Nurb432

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Not read them yet but just ran across some BSG books, supposedly set in the time around when the colonies fell. Guy was supposed have played a part in the story of the reboot.  ( and they are legit free )

 

https://www.smashwords.com/books/byseries/55216



[#] Sun Jun 04 2023 15:27:12 UTC from Nurb432

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Well i cant find where where were talking about the proposed scifi episode about pushing gates out an airlock..  But i had my bot come up with a short story for us:

 

 

 

In this science fiction story set in the future, an evil wealthy man named William Fence designs a series of computers using terrible invasive software to gain more control over people's lives. He then uses his power and influence to limit access to meat and vegetables for common people, forcing them to scavenge and eat insects just to survive.

The story begins with the introduction of William Fence as a wealthy man who is determined to have complete control over society. He designs a series of computers that are equipped with invasive software, which he uses to monitor and manipulate people's lives. With this power, he limits access to meat and vegetables for common people, forcing them to scavenge and eat insects just to survive.

As the story progresses, it becomes clear that William Fence is a ruthless man who will stop at nothing to achieve his goals. He uses his wealth and influence to control the supply of meat and vegetables, making it difficult for people to access these essential food sources. The common people are left with no choice but to scavenge for insects just to survive.

The situation becomes dire as more and more people become malnourished and sick due to their limited diet. They begin to organize themselves, forming resistance groups that aim to take back control of their lives by overthrowing William Fence's regime. The story follows the struggles of these resistance fighters as they try to gain access to meat and vegetables again.

As the tension builds, it becomes clear that William Fence is not going to give up his power easily. He uses all means necessary to maintain control over society, including violence and intimidation tactics. The story culminates in a final showdown between the resistance fighters and William Fence on a luxury spaceship orbiting Pluto.

In the end, after a trial, the common people push William Fence out of an airlock as punishment for his crimes against humanity. This serves as a warning to other wealthy individuals who may seek to gain control over society through invasive technology and limit access to essential resources.

 

 

 

 

 



[#] Sun Jun 04 2023 16:00:21 UTC from Nurb432

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Ok i know i said i was done, but i asked it to give me prompt data to feed into the image generator to create a book cover, based on the final battle scene and it was worth sharing. But now i'm done flooding everyone with nonsense, ..  really.. :)   

 



[#] Sun Jun 04 2023 21:45:56 UTC from darknetuser

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It was a nice read. It was also a good reminded that I am not going to lose one of my jobs anytime soon XD

[#] Sun Jun 04 2023 22:38:44 UTC from Nurb432

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Oh, i could have had it do better, with more refinements.  Just dont have the patience and it wasn't that important to spend all afternoon on.  You outline each section more carefully than i did, feed results back into itself for expansion/refinements until you have a complete workable story. 

Same for the image, you take what you got, feed it back in for it to refine.  tho it did resemble the cover of a lot of 1970 and 80s paperbacks.

Sun Jun 04 2023 05:45:56 PM EDT from darknetuser
It was a nice read. It was also a good reminded that I am not going to lose one of my jobs anytime soon XD

 



[#] Tue Jun 06 2023 20:28:53 UTC from zelgomer

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Sorry for taking so long to chime in on this. I wanted to wait until I was in front of my PC where I could see the image, but then I kept forgetting because I'm a dumbass.

I love this. "William Fence" LOL. And the picture is badass!