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[#] Thu Sep 13 2018 00:03:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Where has all the Science Fiction gone??

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I don't know how Fantasy became the conjoined twin of Science
Fiction, but I really wish it hadn't.  Science Fiction is NOT
supposed to come across as magic.  Unfortunately, I think it is

I suppose they have elements in common ... anachronism, the same suspension of the real world, but in different directions...

One depicts the world as it might have been, the other depicts the world as it might be...

I have to admit I was dressed in the style of the late 1500's when I met Leonard Nimoy at a convention.

[#] Thu Sep 13 2018 07:45:09 EDT from nonservator

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It was absolutely a mistake for literary awards to merge fantasy and scifi. Detrimental to both genres, and to fiction as a whole.

[#] Fri Sep 14 2018 08:49:04 EDT from fleeb <>

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Right... how much science fiction is really just fantasy posing as a kind of pastice of science fiction?

*Real* science fiction makes you think, right? It isn't science soap-opera.

Which isn't to take away any joy from the science soap-operas out there... they can be a fun watch. But they don't make you really think. They don't get you to contemplate things like the influence of language on human thought processes, or how string theory might be used for space travel.

So, yeah, much of that list didn't really have good, hard-hitting sci-fi.
And, truthfully, it's *hard* to make decent sci-fi... because you have to THINK.

(And I'm not given to believe a lot of thought happens these days).

[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 10:13:12 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Right... how much science fiction is really just fantasy posing as a kind of pastice of science fiction?

Most of it, now that you mention it.  Pretty much all of Star Wars is fantasy-in-space, or perhaps even just a space opera.   Real science fiction requires some imaginative speculation, some radical departure.

[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 12:02:50 EDT from wizard of aahz

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But sometimes I like space opera.

[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 13:52:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well that certainly doesn't disqualify it, it just means it isn't hardcore sci-fi. Like anything else, space opera runs the gamut from insanely great (for example, 20th century Star Wars) to completely unwatchable (for example, 21st century Star Wars).

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 11:28:54 EDT from fleeb <>

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At least Hulu is bringing back Animaniacs.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with Science Fiction.

Or *does* it?

[#] Fri Oct 05 2018 09:33:54 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I read about that the other day. Animaniacs was awesome. I hope Speilberg is able to keep his politics out of it.

[#] Fri Oct 05 2018 14:26:00 EDT from fleeb <>

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Things work better when he delegates creative control to others.

[#] Thu Aug 08 2019 19:55:11 EDT from darknetuser

Subject: Sci-fi magazines

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Hey guys, do you read any regular science-fiction magazine? Do you have any recommendations for good ones? Duckduckgoing around shows many rhits, but I usually get better results asking people away.