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[#] Thu Apr 16 2020 14:45:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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John Conway, the mathematician famous for creating "Conway's Game Of Life", has died.

Does that mean Life games are now all just empty squares?

[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 14:05:11 EDT from lol @ Uncensored

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Mon Sep 16 2019 06:17:23 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

You don't really need to do this with containers, but containers do make it significantly easier for most applications.

We write proprietary code for Linux and Windows that must work on 10-year-old versions of the operating system. We only distribute binaries, no sources.
And we can't use containers, as they isolate software too much for our needs.

Because of what we want to accomplish, we *can't* 'own the machine'. But, we don't want the hassle of wondering what fucking dependency broke our shit, so we build our own dependencies (to 10-year-old specs), and engineer everything to only depend on the kernel, to the degree that's possible.

We do, however, want to own our own sources. We're a closed-source shop.
We're very far ahead of any competitors in our space. If we opened the sources, we would significantly risk losing that edge.

I would point out, though, that open-source software also conflicts with each other... it happens quite a lot. It falls on package maintainers for the distribution to curate everything to ensure they work together. What you see is a bit of an illusion caused by this curation process. Eventually, some breaking piece of software is either brought to heel, or causes changes in dependant software to help make everything work again, but if you think open-source software never breaks and everything is peaches and funshine with cookies and happy squeaky ponies, you haven't read through a lot of the tickets those guys are solving.

As a closed-source developer, I find it frustrating that I can't be part of that process. I recognize that I risk 'poisoning' open-source with certain contributions if I'm not careful. I can't build features for open-source very easily... I'd have to do it on my own time, and would therefore not be of particularly good quality (since I've already spent much of my day working on closed-source stuff to earn my living). I can contribute tiny bug fixes, but that's about it.

So, I don't have a lot of influence on open-source development.

This is exactly what we are doing aswell. Statically link all the userspace libs needed to only depend on the kernel elf loader. But things get pretty tricky with GPL libs, thats why we usually provide the *.o files of our compiled source (don't ask me why that's something our legal department tells us to do to not violate the GPL). BTW, I recently found a quite helpful repo to build some common needed userspace libs:

[#] Fri Sep 11 2020 02:29:55 EDT from somestuff @ Uncensored

Subject: speaking of the Debian package

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I noticed that the Debian package for Citadel was unmaintained.  Citadel is new to me, I've been getting familiar.  I might consider picking it up.

[#] Mon Sep 14 2020 22:18:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I believe the previous (or existing) maintainer was doing it reluctantly.

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