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[#] Tue Nov 01 2011 09:07:29 EDT from skpacman

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Yeah, be careful with kid-power. As the child gets older, they lose their hyperactivity and invariably get lazy. Also, hyperactive six-year-old's have a tendency to fall asleep on the spot once they run out of hyper-energy. Do you have a steady supply of hyperactive children or do you plan to find alternatives?

My three-year-old tends to get grumpy long before getting tired....

Stephen D King

[#] Tue Nov 01 2011 14:36:52 EDT from zooer

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Are you going to buy a house generator or just a small one?  Honda portable generators are fantastic but expensive.  They can be used for electronic equipment.  You have to make sure they have enough power to run a hot water heater.

Had one in Florida.  Got lucky didn't have to use it too much.  Mostly to keep the refrigerator running, and if needed to run an air conditioner at night.

[#] Tue Nov 01 2011 16:08:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I'm looking to go at least 5KW and with a diesel engine so I can run it from my home heating oil tank. I'll probably hook it up to a subpanel and hook up the fridge, the circulator pump for the heat/hotwater, computer/phones/tv, and a few lights.

We have 100 Amp service so a 12 KW generator would in fact power the whole house, but that takes it way out of my price range.

[#] Tue Nov 01 2011 18:45:59 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Think I'm going with an 8kw so it'll cover my sumps.  Plus, it's an auto on, so I won't need to worry when I'm out of town.  But yes, expensive.  But food is over-rated, anyway.

[#] Wed Nov 02 2011 05:25:03 EDT from dothebart

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i've seen some which look a little like a fridge, there to power your house & and replace your heating.

[#] Wed Nov 02 2011 22:13:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well it seems that no one has any generators in stock anyway, so we've got some time to think about it. Diesel generators cost more but they seem to have a much longer service life. I can't get a straight answer on whether it's safe to run a diesel engine on #2 home heating oil.

I guess I'll work on site prep while we wait for everyone to restock.

[#] Thu Nov 03 2011 05:55:26 EDT from dothebart

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in germany it 'd probably be problematic because of taxation.

at least by putting it into your car you're committing a tax crime.

afaik the only difference is the color, which is made by aditiva.

don't know whether one should put it into a modern TDI though ;-)

[#] Thu Nov 03 2011 12:38:50 EDT from Spell Binder

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I've heard that it's the same in most, if not all states, here in the U.S.
There's really no difference between home heating oil and diesel, but due to tax structuring, heating oil is cheaper. It's a crime to use heating oil in cars, and to deter it, a red dye is added.

I've heard of schemes where people try to remove the dye, but I haven't heard of those schemes being too successful.
Oil Binder

[#] Thu Nov 03 2011 14:39:14 EDT from LoanShark

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I once, at about 3AM, accidentally filled my 1985 diesel Volvo with kerosene. It ran fine, and I don't even recall much color from the tailpipe.

With the new clean diesels that are designed to run on ultra-low-sulfur fuel, using heating oil could be dangerous to the catalytic converter. I'm not sure how fast the heating oil industry is converting to ULS or whether the spec is the same as in ULSD. Kerosene probably isn't converting at all.

[#] Thu Nov 03 2011 15:14:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well, the reason I'm asking is because if it is safe to run a diesel on home heating oil, I will buy a diesel generator and plumb it to my existing 375 gallon tank. If it isn't safe, and I have to fill up from the gas station anyway, I might as well buy a gasoline powered generator.

[#] Thu Nov 03 2011 18:28:55 EDT from zooer

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I am sure it is more expensive but I remember something about a generator that will run on several types of fuel.  I don't think diesel  is one.  I think natural gas, gasoline or propane.

[#] Thu Nov 03 2011 18:31:04 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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A diesel generator can be modified to run on a mix of fuels -- probably not gasoline, but I've seen really big ones modified to run on up to a 50/50 mix of diesel and natural gas.

Gasoline engines can be modified to run on natural gas or propane. Around here, the gas company has a fleet of cars modified in this way.

[#] Thu Nov 03 2011 21:56:23 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Damned Verizon. Even when I keep electric, I lose internet.  <grmbl>

[#] Mon Nov 07 2011 10:57:48 EST from Ford II

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[#] Wed Nov 09 2011 07:28:07 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Unexpectedly, our Internet (and phone and television) went out yesterday.
We didn't see any wires down but our neighbors with FiOS were out too. This is the first time in 2.5 years that we've had a problem, so it's a pretty decent track record -- our neighbors with cable have probably had half a dozen outages in that time. When we called they said that our service would be restored at 5:02am. That sounds rather precise so there's probably something that happens at that time (daily re-bork of the head end or something?) ... anyway they lied to us; we got our service back at 4:39am :)

[#] Wed Nov 09 2011 07:33:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Anyway, after a lot of thought, I think I'm settling on this generator:

These guys seem to be decent. They're not Onan or Kohler (or overpriced Generac) but they appear to be on a substantially higher tier than the cheap Chinese knockoffs (Durostar, All-Power, etc). I had a nice conversation with one of the guys at the company and I got a good feeling about them. They make replacement parts available, the service manuals are downloadable, and most of the reviews I'm reading around the Internet are positive for both the product and the company.

6500 watts isn't enough to power my whole house but it should be sufficient to run the electric components of our oil furnace, keep the fridge and freezer running, and operate enough lights (and a computer and television) to make the house livable during an outage.

[#] Thu Nov 10 2011 12:47:25 EST from skpacman

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whoa, did uncensored just have a seizure or something??

551 Received unexpected answer from Citadel server; bailing out.

[#] Thu Nov 10 2011 13:48:24 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I think it was getting overloaded by a lot of incoming connections and was refusing to handle any more.

[#] Thu Nov 10 2011 14:24:34 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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And it still is. The weird part is, the abusive user is *me* and the connections are coming from my house, but I'm not there. I checked my home computers, one is off and the other has no connections coming from it. There must be a device somewhere in the house doing this (an old phone or tablet?)

[#] Thu Nov 10 2011 18:41:51 EST from zooer

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I couldn't get to the home page for a minute or two with the same error.

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