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[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 01:41:57 UTC from Nurb432

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Yes, history has been far too kind to him.   He is directly responsible for many deaths. 

Mon Jan 18 2021 19:01:50 EST from zooer

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 03:09:07 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar

(He's [Trump] actually the 21st century Lincoln, 

Trump didn't take away state's rights or suspend habeas corpus.  Lincoln tried to exterminate Native Americans. Hitler admired Lincoln.  I am not sure why you are making this comparison.



 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 01:42:38 UTC from Nurb432

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LOL

Mon Jan 18 2021 19:30:35 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Lincoln and Trump both had excellent taste in hats.


 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 02:08:42 UTC from Nurb432

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Platform is only one of the problems. 

Clear-net is a problem in its own

  • DNS can easily be revoked
  • DDoS is not hard
  • ISP/hosting blockages
  • Personal persecution via ISP logs. 
Of source word of month is hard too, when everything else is blocked and you cant 'announce'
 
Commercial VPNs help with losing your connection and shielding from personal attack, but not with DNS/DDoS.  I also expect non-logging VPNs to become illegal soon. And open search engines. Gotta login to search.
 
Going dark-web is only a stop gap.
 
All current dark-nets are vulnerable to something, just a matter of what.  We just found out TOR is *easily* DDoSed out of existence..   Its also trivial to cut off the project's home from the clear-net, making it difficult for the average person to know it even exists.. or how to get there. Github, will be purged.  Common ports blocked by ISPs.  Deep packet inspection, while wont tell you what is going on, it will flag it as suspicious and get you a warrant.  Being labeled a terrorist, you have to prove your innocence. Search history, also = suspicion and a warrant. Unapproved encryption, same deal. "what are you hiding" 
 
Eventually i see 'tainted' IP stacks required just to get online at all. Much like we had in the old days with many 'online services' where they installed their own stack. Sure, it was benevolent then, but it wont be next time.
 
Don't forget vPro and the AMD equivalent operating at a lower level than that.  ( yay FPGA! )
 
Mesh WiFi networks and radio: They can be tracked down to within a few feet. For many hams, its a weekend game to do that.  Easy to block to, if it comes down to it.
 
Point to point dial-up? Well, that easily detected by the telcos, and stopped. And once again, you get a visit.
 
I know i tend to be pessimistic/dark as a rule, but i really dont think there is a long term tech solution. All of them are only a stop-gap until its impossible to function or the problem is fixed. The oppression has to be stopped. THAT is the fix.

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 15:28:24 ESTfrom ParanoidDelusions

I'm pretty convinced Citadel is the antidote to it. We need to make it so that if one of us gets pulled down, 100 spring up to replace it. 




[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 02:34:10 UTC from zooer

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Both Trump and Lincoln switched political parties often, Lincoln was not a republican at the end of his term.

Both Trump and Lincoln have a hole in the head. 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 05:09:29 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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I am optimistic that with demand, technical challenges will be met and overcome, as will desire among end users to work harder to overcome those obstacles as well. 

It seems unlikely and impossibly difficult on this side of it. The more difficult they make it, the more people will accept those difficulties. 

The fact that *I* am looking into i2p is the first ripples of that. If they continue, that will turn into a swell, and eventually, a breaking wave. 

Citadel may be the stone that sets off the ripples. That is fine. It'll serve its purpose in continuing the struggle for liberty against oppression. 

If the Founding Fathers had considered the obstacles before them and the chances of success - they never would have tried. 

That will always be the case in struggles such as these. 

 

Mon Jan 18 2021 21:08:42 EST from Nurb432

Platform is only one of the problems. 

Clear-net is a problem in its own

  • DNS can easily be revoked
  • DDoS is not hard
  • ISP/hosting blockages
  • Personal persecution via ISP logs. 

 



 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 12:03:25 UTC from Nurb432

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While i agree, it was a far different world for them. And as oppressive at it was, it was still not 'socialist style oppression'. 

Tue Jan 19 2021 00:09:29 EST from ParanoidDelusions

If the Founding Fathers had considered the obstacles before them and the chances of success - they never would have tried. 

 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 12:32:24 UTC from Nurb432

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Grr i also meant to say that im not suggesting we quit.  Just that the last part of my earlier statement this stuff will only go so far unless we actually fix the problem as tech isn't the fix, its a short term bandaid that will be removed at some point if the problem isnt fixed.   Not saying we dont try to fix it.

 

But if we dont fix the problem, none of it is going to matter at some point.

Tue Jan 19 2021 07:03:25 EST from Nurb432

While i agree, it was a far different world for them. And as oppressive at it was, it was still not 'socialist style oppression'. 

Tue Jan 19 2021 00:09:29 EST from ParanoidDelusions

If the Founding Fathers had considered the obstacles before them and the chances of success - they never would have tried. 

 



 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 12:40:51 UTC from nonservator

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The Chinese had it right on this one. Politicians aren't the problem. They're just people. And when people in general are hateful, selfish, apathetic and lazy, they get the government they deserve. Of course not all Americans are like this now. Just a sufficient proportion of them to tip the balance.



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 15:22:25 UTC from Nurb432

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Brazil too.  https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/14/bolsonaro-brazil-trump-anti-democracy-elections/

 

I have a friend that lives there who fled from Argentina when the socialists moved in and took over. Now they are there too, manipulating the truth and stealing power.    The entire planet is F-ed.  Can we get off? 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 15:22:36 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Agreed. The printing press didn't fix the problem for Ben Franklin. It allowed him to spread the ideas that made people demand the fix. 


Tue Jan 19 2021 07:32:24 EST from Nurb432

Grr i also meant to say that im not suggesting we quit.  Just that the last part of my earlier statement this stuff will only go so far unless we actually fix the problem as tech isn't the fix, its a short term bandaid that will be removed at some point if the problem isnt fixed.   Not saying we dont try to fix it.

 

But if we dont fix the problem, none of it is going to matter at some point.

Tue Jan 19 2021 07:03:25 EST from Nurb432

While i agree, it was a far different world for them. And as oppressive at it was, it was still not 'socialist style oppression'. 

Tue Jan 19 2021 00:09:29 EST from ParanoidDelusions

If the Founding Fathers had considered the obstacles before them and the chances of success - they never would have tried. 

 



 



 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 21:33:44 UTC from Nurb432

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And just think, they are not technically even in power yet.... ( tomorrow, but you get my point )

Soon they will be working on blacklisting the average person.  Its already been threatened/promised.

Tue Jan 19 2021 12:06:22 EST from zooer

 



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 21:38:08 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Agreed. The printing press didn't fix the problem for Ben Franklin. It allowed him to spread the ideas that made people demand the fix. 

It has been said that freedom of the press is only available to those who own one.

The democrat/media cartel has not locked us out yet.  Perhaps the single greatest achievement of President Trump (peace be upon him) was not his policy achievements, which can be reversed by the incoming communist china administration, but that he has exposed the depth of the swamp and the unlimited extent to which its media has been lying to us.  Trust of the establishment and its media is now at an all time low.  There is an audience of potential new patriots waiting to be educated, and it's up to "alt tech" to do it.

Darth Zuckerberg and his friends have done us a favor by showing us the Internet's weaknesses, its choke points which we now must diversify away from.  When compared to the thousands of different forums people congregated on until about a decade ago with the half dozen mega-sites they are on today ... Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube are literally concentration camps for Internet users.  We must help everyone escape.

On another note, President Trump (PBUH) is having a few small events tomorrow, but I think he's missing an opportunity.  He should be doing a mega-rally in Florida at the EXACT same time as President Xi's deputy's inauguration in Washington.



[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 22:50:08 UTC from Ragnar Danneskjold

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[#] Tue Jan 19 2021 23:05:23 UTC from Nurb432

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Timing of this is rather telling.  

 

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-21-73A1.pdf



[#] Wed Jan 20 2021 00:21:59 UTC from Nurb432

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Might be better under web, but here it is anyway.. 

Brave browser now supports native IPFS . Its an interesting concept but i didnt figure it woudl catch on due to the manual pieces to install, which isn't for everyone. Now there isn't any, lowing the barrier of entry.  Much like TorBrowser take the hard work out of that.

 

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/19/22238334/brave-browser-ipfs-peer-to-peer-decentralized-transfer-protocol-http-nodes



[#] Wed Jan 20 2021 00:23:50 UTC from zooer

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So if you commit a crime while using a radio you are going to be committing another crime?    Well.... that ought to stop 'em.  People will never commit a crime while commiting a crime.



[#] Wed Jan 20 2021 00:36:18 UTC from Nurb432

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Im actually ok with the idea of banning committing a crime on the airwaves, as long as its not something like thought crime, but real actual crime.. But, the part about 'coded messages', no i draw a line there.

its setting up to grab the frequencies from us too. "that was coded disinformation, off to jail you go"

Tue Jan 19 2021 19:23:50 EST from zooer

So if you commit a crime while using a radio you are going to be committing another crime?    Well.... that ought to stop 'em.  People will never commit a crime while commiting a crime.



 



[#] Wed Jan 20 2021 02:07:58 UTC from zooer

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Something I noticed, everything now has a positive spin on it.  When Trump and Bush were in the White House everything was xx% of people *disprove* of something Bush Trump did.  Obama, and now Biden, xx% of people approve of something Obama/Biden did/do.



[#] Wed Jan 20 2021 03:03:36 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Have I already shared this here? 

The events at the docks at Boston on December 16th, 1773 were encouraged by ruthless dictators trying to usurp their lawfully appointed Government. They use this new invention of mass communication, the Printing Press, to spread their radical agenda of false-news to the population, to organize and mobilize against their legitimate government, and to sow and create unrest among a peaceful, civil society. We need to silence their voice - and their access to the Printing Press is the problem. There is no need to tolerate their violent words, to allow them to be heard. They must be silenced so that the peaceful people of Great Britain can begin to heal and mend their differences of opinions through the proven, benevolent leadership of their attentive and responsive Government.
We need to silence the voice of radicalism in Great Britain today, before it is too late. The colonist insurgents that unlawfully attacked the Boston Harbor must all be held accountable, and anyone defending their position must be silenced! The printing press, abused by these militant insurgents, is the single greatest danger to our society present - and we must cut these people off from access to such ability to communicate their ideas - now, before it is too late!

 

-His Majesty's Royal Government

Tue Jan 19 2021 18:05:23 EST from Nurb432

Timing of this is rather telling.  

 

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-21-73A1.pdf



 



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